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Video Game Industry Thread: May is done, go to the next one

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    At this point I almost think I'd rather see another studio do Eternal Darkness 2. Like 90% of the appeal of that game was the story and cool freak-out stuff anyways. Maybe SK can sell off the license :P

    Nintendo owns that license. So, Retro?

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    At this point I almost think I'd rather see another studio do Eternal Darkness 2. Like 90% of the appeal of that game was the story and cool freak-out stuff anyways. Maybe SK can sell off the license :P

    Nintendo owns that license. So, Retro?

    They do? Are you sure?

    And yes, Retro would probably do an awesome job with it.

    Edit: Oh, you're right. Amusingly, the Kotaku article I found about Nintendo renewing the license also pointed out they renewed the license for Luigi's Mansion (this was back in 2010) :D

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Nintendo also owns a patent on the sanity meter concept.

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=6935954

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    There have been rumors about Silicon Knights working on something for Wii U.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Yeah, you just can't have a sanity "meter" without licensing the patent from Nintendo.

  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Nintendo also owns a patent on the sanity meter concept.

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=6935954

    Makes me wonder if they were planning this to coincide with the Vitality Sensor (which is now probably dead)

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    Nintendo also owns a patent on the sanity meter concept.

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=6935954

    Makes me wonder if they were planning this to coincide with the Vitality Sensor (which is now probably dead)

    I'm gonna guess no

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    I have a feeling they filed that patent then forgot about it.

  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    Yeah, you just can't have a sanity "meter" without licensing the patent from Nintendo.
    So you have an insanity meter that gradually fills up instead. Done.

    Also, I figured out how Nintendo is going to sell me a WiiU, and it involves Eternal Darkness.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303640104577436261084921778.html
    Sony Corp. considered but ultimately rejected a download-only plan for its next videogame console, people familiar with the matter said, opting to include an optical disk drive rather than break with decades-old industry practice.

    The Japanese electronics maker's flirtation with dropping the optical drive underscores the rising importance of online networks in the videogame industry, which allow console users to download games, television shows and music without the need for disks or cartridges.

    Sony is planning a 2013 release for the successor to its PlayStation 3 console, people familiar with the matter said.

    Consoles without optical drives would likely add to pressures on brick-and-mortar and online retailers that sell game disks.

    But Sony decided against a download-only model largely because Internet connections are too inconsistent around the world, one of the people familiar with Sony's thinking said. Because game files are large, customers in countries where Internet connections are relatively slow would be hobbled by a requirement to download games, the person said.

    Hopefully next gen will have almost all the games online out of the gate unlike the shit this gen.

  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303640104577436261084921778.html
    Sony Corp. considered but ultimately rejected a download-only plan for its next videogame console, people familiar with the matter said, opting to include an optical disk drive rather than break with decades-old industry practice.

    The Japanese electronics maker's flirtation with dropping the optical drive underscores the rising importance of online networks in the videogame industry, which allow console users to download games, television shows and music without the need for disks or cartridges.

    Sony is planning a 2013 release for the successor to its PlayStation 3 console, people familiar with the matter said.

    Consoles without optical drives would likely add to pressures on brick-and-mortar and online retailers that sell game disks.

    But Sony decided against a download-only model largely because Internet connections are too inconsistent around the world, one of the people familiar with Sony's thinking said. Because game files are large, customers in countries where Internet connections are relatively slow would be hobbled by a requirement to download games, the person said.

    Hopefully next gen will have almost all the games online out of the gate unlike the shit this gen.

    And hopefully they won't add an arbitrary 10€ "online tax" to them.

  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303640104577436261084921778.html
    Sony Corp. considered but ultimately rejected a download-only plan for its next videogame console, people familiar with the matter said, opting to include an optical disk drive rather than break with decades-old industry practice.

    The Japanese electronics maker's flirtation with dropping the optical drive underscores the rising importance of online networks in the videogame industry, which allow console users to download games, television shows and music without the need for disks or cartridges.

    Sony is planning a 2013 release for the successor to its PlayStation 3 console, people familiar with the matter said.

    Consoles without optical drives would likely add to pressures on brick-and-mortar and online retailers that sell game disks.

    But Sony decided against a download-only model largely because Internet connections are too inconsistent around the world, one of the people familiar with Sony's thinking said. Because game files are large, customers in countries where Internet connections are relatively slow would be hobbled by a requirement to download games, the person said.

    Hopefully next gen will have almost all the games online out of the gate unlike the shit this gen.

    If anything, it should be like how it is with the Vita.

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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

    Still nothing compared to the 'Congratulations on finishing the Eternal Darkness demo. Pick up the full game this fall only for Nintendo Gamecube'

    I mean, I was literally halfway to the goddam console to eject the disc by the time the screen flashed white. Instantaneous worry and annoyance and doubt.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    The Scarecrow bits were nice and sustained, but Eternal Darkness did a LOT of stuff to mess with your head. Here's a list of 'em.

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/gamecube/913957-eternal-darkness-sanitys-requiem/faqs/17705

    That game came out 10 years ago, and I'm surprised we haven't gotten much similar to that since then.

    At any rate, today's comic is for us.

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    Gawd I hate me some buzzwords.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Slightly more nuance to SK's position.

    Basically, Epic was too concerned with their own game's success that they purposefully were lax in their support of their engine and may have even withheld patches/updates to ensure they have a technological one up on the competition.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    skeldare wrote: »
    There have been rumors about Silicon Knights working on something for Wii U.

    I look forward to seeing what they've got when it comes out two console generations from now. Assuming they're even still around by then.

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    After Too Human and X-Men Destiny I don't understand how anybody could be excited by anything made by Silicon Knights

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    There have been rumors about Silicon Knights working on something for Wii U.

    I look forward to seeing what they've got when it comes out two console generations from now. Assuming they're even still around by then.

    Isn't this already the case since it's coming out on the Wii U?

  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Sheep wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    There have been rumors about Silicon Knights working on something for Wii U.

    I look forward to seeing what they've got when it comes out two console generations from now. Assuming they're even still around by then.

    Isn't this already the case since it's coming out on the Wii U?

    *insert joke about Silicon Knights delays*

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Sheep wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    There have been rumors about Silicon Knights working on something for Wii U.

    I look forward to seeing what they've got when it comes out two console generations from now. Assuming they're even still around by then.

    Isn't this already the case since it's coming out on the Wii U?

    I know what you were going for, but I don't think the joke came out the way you intended. :P

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Wow. Cyberpunk. So we're getting both Cyberpunk and Shadowrun games. Damn.

    Don't forget Cartel.

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

    As someone who hasn't played the game, please elaborate.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Zynga is the next Xbox Live.
    Zynga is building a portfolio of mobile, casual and social games across a variety of social networks and platforms, including, most notably, Facebook and iOS. It has at least 100 million monthly players across its Farmville and Citiville games on Facebook and has expanded its mobile reach significantly with the acquisitions of Draw Something and Words with Friends. But Zynga Founder and CEO Mark Pincus has bigger plans: He wants to be a network.

    Speaking at the 10th annual All Things D Conference in Southern California, Pincus said that mobile gaming suffers from a number of problems. “We need more aggregated channels, more ways to discover new apps and find ways back to apps that they’ve been engaged in and we think we can help that. We want to be a gaming network a lot like Xbox Live.”

    It’s a bold statement, but also an indication that Zynga will not only be acquiring and building new games and add-ons, but figuring out ways to connect people with games that, perhaps, Zynga doesn’t even own.

    Zynga’s goals, however, may hinge on the success of Facebook and its new and rather bumpy IPO experience (Zynga’s own publicly traded stock took a hit when Facebook went public earlier this month). Pincus, who says it was not Zynga’s goal to be on Facebook, couldn’t deny that its games had grown fastest on the platform. “As we saw their platform perform better than anyone else’s, we double-downed on Facebook,” said Pincus.

    Facebook, explained Pincus, provides two critical components of the “new stack”: Apps Stack and Social Stack and, as such, is really important to Zynga and others.

    Zynga’s other avenue for growth is, obviously, acquisitions. Pincus outlined Zynga’s acquisition strategy and told All Things D’s Kara Swisher that their “M+A strategy has always been to look for great teams that would add to our DNA.” He counts the Words with Friends buy as such an addition. In the case of Draw Something, Pincus said they did something Zynga always believed was possible, but couldn’t figure out: innovating on user-generated content.

    There have been reports, though, that interest and activity on Draw Something has diminished in recent months. Pincus countered that the app actually has more traffic today than when Zynga first began talking to them. Still Pincus admitted that it’s “still too early to say that that acquisition is successful.”

    http://mashable.com/2012/05/30/pincus-zynga-d10/

    Incidentally, Zynga's stock dropped from a high of $14.69 in March to $5.87 now. About $3 of that drop was since the Facebook IPO hit and tanked.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

    As someone who hasn't played the game, please elaborate.

    As someone who has played the game: Play the game.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    What are the chances that Sony buying Gakai or OnLive would help spur MS and Nintendo to look into more streaming stuff?
    Facebook, explained Pincus, provides two critical components of the “new stack”: Apps Stack and Social Stack and, as such, is really important to Zynga and others.
    I am pretty sure I already hate that buzzword.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Ugh yeah, especially because it is a real actual honest term that means something outside of buzzword-land.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Stack is the new pillar? I miss pillar. Or did anyone besides Nintendo use that?

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    Renzo wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

    As someone who hasn't played the game, please elaborate.

    As someone who has played the game: Play the game.

    Not interested in Batman, sorry.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Renzo wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

    As someone who hasn't played the game, please elaborate.

    As someone who has played the game: Play the game.

    Not interested in Batman, sorry.

    I KNEW there was something about you that didn't sit right with me.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Edit: off topic, never mind.

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

    As someone who hasn't played the game, please elaborate.

    As someone who has played the game: Play the game.

    Not interested in Batman, sorry.

    I KNEW there was something about you that didn't sit right with me.

    Okay, okay, let me elaborate. I like Batman. I grew up on TAS, TNBA, and BB, and those are all great, as is most WB-produced DC Comics animation.

    But the internet's obsession with "Batman > All" really grates on me and it's turned me off to most, if not everything involving the character.

    That and I think Nolan's movies are completely overrated.

    On top of all of that, I have a ridiculous backlog of games to play as it is, and I don't want to pay money for something I'm barely interested in.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

    As someone who hasn't played the game, please elaborate.

    As someone who has played the game: Play the game.

    Not interested in Batman, sorry.

    I KNEW there was something about you that didn't sit right with me.

    Okay, okay, let me elaborate. I like Batman. I grew up on TAS, TNBA, and BB, and those are all great, as is most WB-produced DC Comics animation.

    But the internet's obsession with "Batman > All" really grates on me and it's turned me off to most, if not everything involving the character.

    That and I think Nolan's movies are completely overrated.

    On top of all of that, I have a ridiculous backlog of games to play as it is, and I don't want to pay money for something I'm barely interested in.

    It has Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy. It's basically Metroid, with a Batman skin but with more action.

    But this is not the thread to go on about this.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    skeldare wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    You can still do funky stuff with the game and breaking the fourth wall. MGS1 and Arkham Asylum did it.

    Oh man, I don't know of anyone who didn't shit their pants, or almost stroke out during that one Scarecrow part...

    Kudos to Rocksteady on that one.

    As someone who hasn't played the game, please elaborate.

    As someone who has played the game: Play the game.

    Not interested in Batman, sorry.

    I KNEW there was something about you that didn't sit right with me.

    Okay, okay, let me elaborate. I like Batman. I grew up on TAS, TNBA, and BB, and those are all great, as is most WB-produced DC Comics animation.

    But the internet's obsession with "Batman > All" really grates on me and it's turned me off to most, if not everything involving the character.

    That and I think Nolan's movies are completely overrated.

    On top of all of that, I have a ridiculous backlog of games to play as it is, and I don't want to pay money for something I'm barely interested in.

    It's also written by Paul Dini who wrote a large number of the Batman: The Animated Series episodes. It's *basically* Batman:TAS the game, but not animated.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Batman is the perfect video game character in that he's a badass muscle dude completely devoid of personality. Oh hey, wanna do cool shit and beat up dudes? We got that. Wanna hear Gruff McGeneric talk about the "plot" in the stalest fucking talking head cutscenes? We got that too!

    Batman is video games.

    In other news and/or rumors, Wall Street Journal is saying that "people in the know" are saying that PS4 will launch in 2013. If true, I would imagine we'll see the thing at E3 this year. Leaving it to E3 next year would be Sega Saturn kinds of stupid.

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  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Stack is the new pillar? I miss pillar. Or did anyone besides Nintendo use that?

    I still hear a lot of developers use the term "pillars of gameplay," so we're still good on that one.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    reVerse wrote: »
    Batman is the perfect video game character in that he's a badass muscle dude completely devoid of personality. Oh hey, wanna do cool shit and beat up dudes? We got that. Wanna hear Gruff McGeneric talk about the "plot" in the stalest fucking talking head cutscenes? We got that too!

    Batman is video games.

    In other news and/or rumors, Wall Street Journal is saying that "people in the know" are saying that PS4 will launch in 2013. If true, I would imagine we'll see the thing at E3 this year. Leaving it to E3 next year would be Sega Saturn kinds of stupid.

    So I guess it'll be next year then.

    *rimshot*

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    reVerse wrote: »
    In other news and/or rumors, Wall Street Journal is saying that "people in the know" are saying that PS4 will launch in 2013. If true, I would imagine we'll see the thing at E3 this year. Leaving it to E3 next year would be Sega Saturn kinds of stupid.

    I've said it before, but I'd honestly be surprised if we don't hear about the PS4 and 720 in some way this E3. Hardware sales are stalling out so both Sony and Microsoft need to get new ones in stores as soon as they can, plus not doing anything on that front effectively hands Nintendo this year's E3 mindshare on a silver platter.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    If PS4 or Xbox 3 are not at e3 this year, I don't know if I see them launching in 2013. But we'll see I guess.

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