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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
    So remember when we said that Steel Battalion, crazy as the idea seemed, was the one great hope for hardcore Kinect games?

    Ouch.

    Yeah, seems like only this morning when everyone and their mother was shitting on it.

    Edit: And apparently OXM is the only positive review with a 7.5.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Hey I liked the idea behind the first Steel Battalion.

    But yeah this doesn't bode well.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Well, the good news is that watching the myriad videos of game reviewers trying to play the game and failing miserably is pretty entertaining.

    Shame that the game's an utter disaster, though. Wonder if it's all on Kinect limitations, or not having budget to perfect the motion recognition. Probably a bit of the former, a lot more of the latter.

  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    Maybe it's another game that released it's alpha version by accident.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Capcom strikes me as a mostly mid-tier company with a few upper-tier games that it somehow hasn't completely fucked up.
    Honestly Platinum Games is everything Capcom wishes it was.

    Yea, I'm sure Capcom totally wishes they were a company that loses money with every release.

    It's a wonder Platinum has stayed in business this long. (In retrospect, their multi game deal with Sega must have given them quite a cushion for failures. I wonder what their contract with Nintendo is like, and if it will go beyond the one game)

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  • RidleySariaRidleySaria AnaheimRegistered User regular
    So remember when we said that Steel Battalion, crazy as the idea seemed, was the one great hope for hardcore Kinect games?

    Ouch.

    My only hope was that it would put the nails in the Kinect coffin and end this motion gaming crap. Sounds like it was as bad as I wanted but Kinect Harry Potter will sell like crazy and I won't get my wish. Question is, which HP game ends up being more terrible, Kinect or Wonderbook?

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    V Faction wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »

    For those of us who can't access that page, care to summarize?
    Capcom USA's strategic marketing director of online and community Seth Killian announced today that he's vacating his six-year position. Killian's known for being the face of Capcom's fighting games as of late (aside from producer Yoshinori Ono), not to mention being a co-founder of the annual EVO fighting game championships where he goes by the name "S-Kill." His last day with Capcom is this Friday, June 22.

    Killian took to his blog on Capcom-Unity to announce his departure, where he said, "In no uncertain terms, Capcom has been a dream for me." He thanked a variety of folks at Capcom – from Ono to Christian Svensson, and dedicated quite a few words specifically to the fighting game community. "Both as individuals and as a group, you have taught me more than I could have ever thought possible," he wrote.

    Killian didn't tell where he's heading next, but he did note, "I have chosen a new path which will let me embrace a new dream." Here's hoping he doesn't dream about being a bathroom attendant on an oil rig! What a twist that'd be!
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »

    Something tells me he's getting out before the Capcpom ship sinks. Maybe he had some sort of Revelaiton. 8->
    Yeah, that's kinda what this smells like to me. Especially with this happening so soon after Ono made that post about how he gets treated at Capcom.

    Seth leaving is probably the bummiest news to ever bum me out today. Here's a guy who got to have his dream job at the company he loved and for one reason or another now feels like it isn't worth staying at. This is a loss for the FGC, for Capcom, and for video games in general. And from the sounds of it, the new path being described probably doesn't have anything to do with the video game industry.

    The last hope is that Seth will be at EVO commentating up a storm. If there's one event that'll re-energize a fella, it's that kind.

    Spooky has already offered him a position on Team Spooky :lol:
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Capcom strikes me as a mostly mid-tier company with a few upper-tier games that it somehow hasn't completely fucked up.
    Honestly Platinum Games is everything Capcom wishes it was.

    Yea, I'm sure Capcom totally wishes they were a company that loses money with every release.

    Through no fault of their own really. Their games have all been good, they've just been released at either a really terrible time (Vanquish) or on the wrong platform (Mad World). Bayonetta sold quite well.

    Funny you say that though because at this point Capcom IS a company that loses money with every release.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Edit: And apparently OXM is the only positive review with a 7.5.

    You don't say

  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Apparently Okami's coming this fall as a digital download on PSN.

    Edit: In NA.
    My only thought is, why not on Vita?

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Apparently Okami's coming this fall as a digital download on PSN.

    Edit: In NA.
    My only thought is, why not on Vita?

    Because there's no touc- oh.

    ...

    Because Capcom

  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Apparently Okami's coming this fall as a digital download on PSN.

    Edit: In NA.
    My only thought is, why not on Vita?

    Because there's no touc- oh.

    ...

    Because Capcom
    I'll bet if I told them that releasing it on the Vita would make Mega Man cry, they'd have it up yesterday.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    I really hope Gravity Rush sells okay because it's a pretty cool, unique game and one of the best reasons to own a Vita right now.

  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Apparently Okami's coming this fall as a digital download on PSN.

    Edit: In NA.
    My only thought is, why not on Vita?
    Waste of money.

    There needs to be a lawsuit over Steel Battalion.

  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    When a game is as utterly broken as it currently is, consumers should at least be entitled to their money back. However, a lot of stores won't allow returns if the box has been opened.

    It's a fucking mess. How the hell wasn't this caught in QA.

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  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    They're probably aware that their shit is broken, but the question is: are you able to iterate until you can finalize a decent-playing game, or are you going to ship because you have a deadline to meet coming hell or high water?

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Well, the good news is that watching the myriad videos of game reviewers trying to play the game and failing miserably is pretty entertaining.

    Shame that the game's an utter disaster, though. Wonder if it's all on Kinect limitations, or not having budget to perfect the motion recognition. Probably a bit of the former, a lot more of the latter.
    The thing is, it really doesn't look like a low budget game. I was impressed by the atmosphere and overall style in the Angry Joe video, the effect of things like the glass window of your mech cracking and breaking to the point where you have to lower the shield so you don't get killed by random shrapnel. Maybe it's a questionable gameplay mechanic, but it's a neat simulationist idea and looked good. Explosions looked cool. World design was cool. Just seems to control horribly.

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  • SigtyrSigtyr Registered User regular
    So remember when we said that Steel Battalion, crazy as the idea seemed, was the one great hope for hardcore Kinect games?

    Ouch.

    My only hope was that it would put the nails in the Kinect coffin and end this motion gaming crap. Sounds like it was as bad as I wanted but Kinect Harry Potter will sell like crazy and I won't get my wish. Question is, which HP game ends up being more terrible, Kinect or Wonderbook?

    If Microsoft is willing to dump money into Bing, I'm sure they don't care about having to dump it into Kinect.

  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    If they are not willing to go balls out with a controller they could just make Steel Battalion for WiiU. Just have the controller look like a panel and have all sorts of switches and stuff on it.

    Or does MS own SB?

  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Wonderbook will be reviewed poorly but consumers will buy it, and it could move some Move units as well. I haven't shown him yet, but I guarantee that if I showed my son (7) video of it, he would be ready to preorder it. We'll eventually have Move I'm sure - he's always wanted to play with that Eyepet thing too.

  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Capcom strikes me as a mostly mid-tier company with a few upper-tier games that it somehow hasn't completely fucked up.

    Having a difficult time thinking of some...

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Resident Evil Revelations.

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  • MegamaniacoMegamaniaco Madrid, Spain (again!)Registered User regular
    Resident Evil Revelations.
    Revelaitons*

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Resident Evil Revelations.

    Hasn't the RE series been shit upon, though?

  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Rev was good. I thought 5 was good. 6 is shaping up to be good. I wouldn't call them 'shit upon'. At least, not yet.

  • SigtyrSigtyr Registered User regular
    Well, it has been with operation raccoon city, and it will be with Gears of Evil 6.

  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/6/20/3098777/saints-row-3-expansion-no-longer-in-development-content-merging-with

    Saints Row 3 DLC has been cancelled. Rolled into Saints Row 4. Which is now 2013.
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    "I asked the team what it could achieve given more time, more resources, and a broader scope for the project. We all agreed we wanted to play that game. When it comes to Saints Row, it's clear our fans want bigger, better, and even more over the top, and that's why Enter The Dominatrix will now be incorporated into a vastly expanded, full-fledged sequel, scheduled for calendar 2013."

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Sigtyr wrote: »
    Well, it has been with operation raccoon city, and it will be with Gears of Evil 6.

    Didn't they outsource Raccoon City to another company? Also really, gears of evil 6?

  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/6/20/3098777/saints-row-3-expansion-no-longer-in-development-content-merging-with

    Saints Row 3 DLC has been cancelled. Rolled into Saints Row 4. Which is now 2013.
    "When I looked at the Enter The Dominatrix expansion in production at Volition, I was blown away by the ideas and desire to expand the fiction of the franchise," said Rubin in a prepared comment.

    "I asked the team what it could achieve given more time, more resources, and a broader scope for the project. We all agreed we wanted to play that game. When it comes to Saints Row, it's clear our fans want bigger, better, and even more over the top, and that's why Enter The Dominatrix will now be incorporated into a vastly expanded, full-fledged sequel, scheduled for calendar 2013."

    This is awesome news, honestly.

  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Rev was good. I thought 5 was good. 6 is shaping up to be good. I wouldn't call them 'shit upon'. At least, not yet.


    I dunno. Seems like it has that special mix of exploitation and sequelitis to me.

  • mastriusmastrius Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Sigtyr wrote: »
    Well, it has been with operation raccoon city, and it will be with Gears of Evil 6.

    Didn't they outsource Raccoon City to another company? Also really, gears of evil 6?

    I don't know how people can even compare Resident Evil and Gears of War. Regardless of how Resident Evil is now. It is in no way the same thing. Raccoon City was made by some of the Socom team. But yeah, outsourced. Capcom makes great games that sell fairly well. To say they've made NO great releases recently is completely insane and really just trying to hate on them because of the DLC debacle.

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  • SigtyrSigtyr Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Whether they outsourced it or not is irrelevant.

    It was a buggy mess of a "Resident Evil" game. Not to mention, there's only one companies name on the box.

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  • DusdaDusda is ashamed of this post SLC, UTRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
    urahonky wrote: »
    Sigtyr wrote: »
    Well, it has been with operation raccoon city, and it will be with Gears of Evil 6.

    Didn't they outsource Raccoon City to another company? Also really, gears of evil 6?

    Yea, Slant Six (the SOCOM guys) did Racoon City. I'm pretty sure Capcom is doing RE6 internally, though.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Okay so one bad Resident Evil game makes the entire series afterward bad?

  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Brainiac 8 wrote:
    Yea, I'm sure Capcom totally wishes they were a company that loses money with every release.

    Through no fault of their own really. Their games have all been good, they've just been released at either a really terrible time (Vanquish) or on the wrong platform (Mad World). Bayonetta sold quite well.

    Funny you say that though because at this point Capcom IS a company that loses money with every release.

    Bayonetta sold ok, I would say well. It sold well enough that it won't be getting a sequel. I mean, Platinum is awesome, but for like ever, back when they were clover, that studio cannot seem to sell their games to save their lives.

    It's why Capcom dumped them, and why Sega are pretty much cutting ties with the company and just trying to finish releasing what games are left under their contract. I really hope their partnership with Nintendo bears more fruit...but probably not.

    Edit: Talented group of people that will never get their due no matter what console they work with.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Okay so one bad Resident Evil game makes the entire series afterward bad?

    I'm saying there's way more than "one bad game".

  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    urahonky wrote: »
    Rev was good. I thought 5 was good. 6 is shaping up to be good. I wouldn't call them 'shit upon'. At least, not yet.

    The problem I had with 5 is the same problem I had with Splinter Cell Conviction. They're both fun games, but they don't feel like they're in the same game series as their predecessors. They feel like big-budget spinoffs almost.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Okay so one bad Resident Evil game makes the entire series afterward bad?

    I pretty much consider anything after 4 to be not worth playing. Well, and 3. But that's just me.

  • SigtyrSigtyr Registered User regular
    As if Capcom doesn't make buggy games internally either.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAJUelWRWBs

    And it's a fighting game no less.

  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Sigtyr wrote: »
    As if Capcom doesn't make buggy games internally either.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAJUelWRWBs

    And it's a fighting game no less.

    Did....did that game really decide it didn't feel like playing anymore? "I'm bored of this match, here, watch some scenery until time over!"

  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Sheep wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Okay so one bad Resident Evil game makes the entire series afterward bad?

    I'm saying there's way more than "one bad game".

    List them Sheep. :)

    I'm looking at metacritic and there are two games that are below 50: ORC and Survivor. Out of the number of games that came out in the series I think that's damn good.

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