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So, I recently redesigned my web site, and it looks great... on everything but Safari for Mac OS X and Konqueror for Unix. Are there any skilled web designers out there who might know how to fix the problem? Everything I've tried hasn't worked, and believe me, I've tried a lot of things!
Yikes, I've been pouring over this table structure since you posted and it's pretty brutal. There are a lot of non-standard things you are using, and KHTML is more strict than most other browsers in not "assuming" things.
Can you give me a version of the page with only the header (logo, navigation, etc)? There are a lot of tags without closing tags, a lot of closing tags without opening tags, and it's not really well formatted for looking at the code.
I have a feeling once we figure out what Safari is being picky about, we can apply it to the whole page.
You were just missing a lot a lot a LOT of end tags. I'd still go through it and clean it up if I were you. Run it through w3 validation for a list of things that are wrong with the doc.
I'm designing the site with a web editor called Sothink (formerly Cutepage). I like the interface but the way it renders sites is a little suspect at times. Unfortunately, I've never found a suitable replacement for it... I imagine FrontPage works pretty well but I just don't have the scratch for it.
Check my above response. Everything's fixed, just copy+paste the source.
If you're not into coding websites, I highly suggest using blog software like wordpress and installing a theme over something like this. Easier to manage in the long run, and it doesn't puke poorly written code all over your page.
So you feel that the best way to go is to code sites by hand, rather than use an editor? I used to do that back in the 1990's, but HTML has evolved so much since then, and working with tables can be a nightmare if you're writing the code yourself.
I suppose I could give Wordpress a shot, especially if it's free or there's a demo available (me=cheapskate). At this point I'd be willing to try anything!
So you feel that the best way to go is to code sites by hand, rather than use an editor? I used to do that back in the 1990's, but HTML has evolved so much since then, and working with tables can be a nightmare if you're writing the code yourself.
I used to edit websites a lot when I was doing e-Commerce development. Editing them by hand is definitely worth it in the end for maintenance purposes.
We would often get websites designed professionally for us by graphic designers who worked with Dreamweaver. The result was almost always a non-W3-validating mess that was almost impossible to embed JSP tags into. We always used the images from the designers' pages, but redid the HTML from scratch.
The result was a much more maintainable page that was generally one third of the size. Obviously, it was much easier to maintain and to embed JSP tags into.
If you design the table structure by hand first, then you should have no problem keeping track of them. You usually won't end up with more than 4 or 5 levels of tables (even on complex pages), and if you indent them properly, then it's easy to keep track of them.
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Can you give me a version of the page with only the header (logo, navigation, etc)? There are a lot of tags without closing tags, a lot of closing tags without opening tags, and it's not really well formatted for looking at the code.
I have a feeling once we figure out what Safari is being picky about, we can apply it to the whole page.
http://www.jotlet.net/blah/blah.html
You were just missing a lot a lot a LOT of end tags. I'd still go through it and clean it up if I were you. Run it through w3 validation for a list of things that are wrong with the doc.
Here, give this a shot!
I'm designing the site with a web editor called Sothink (formerly Cutepage). I like the interface but the way it renders sites is a little suspect at times. Unfortunately, I've never found a suitable replacement for it... I imagine FrontPage works pretty well but I just don't have the scratch for it.
Same old site, great new look! Check out The Gameroom Blitz at:
http://www.lakupo.com/grblitz
If you're not into coding websites, I highly suggest using blog software like wordpress and installing a theme over something like this. Easier to manage in the long run, and it doesn't puke poorly written code all over your page.
So you feel that the best way to go is to code sites by hand, rather than use an editor? I used to do that back in the 1990's, but HTML has evolved so much since then, and working with tables can be a nightmare if you're writing the code yourself.
I suppose I could give Wordpress a shot, especially if it's free or there's a demo available (me=cheapskate). At this point I'd be willing to try anything!
Same old site, great new look! Check out The Gameroom Blitz at:
http://www.lakupo.com/grblitz
I used to edit websites a lot when I was doing e-Commerce development. Editing them by hand is definitely worth it in the end for maintenance purposes.
We would often get websites designed professionally for us by graphic designers who worked with Dreamweaver. The result was almost always a non-W3-validating mess that was almost impossible to embed JSP tags into. We always used the images from the designers' pages, but redid the HTML from scratch.
The result was a much more maintainable page that was generally one third of the size. Obviously, it was much easier to maintain and to embed JSP tags into.
If you design the table structure by hand first, then you should have no problem keeping track of them. You usually won't end up with more than 4 or 5 levels of tables (even on complex pages), and if you indent them properly, then it's easy to keep track of them.