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Do you tip? Why or why not?

GlyphGlyph Registered User regular
edited June 2012 in Social Entropy++
See, I try to be a generous tipper but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't primarily to avoid the social stigma of being a bad tipper and because it actually can have repercussions on subsequent service.

I understand this is mostly an American thing though as it doesn't seem to be all that common in other countries, even among the industrialized world.

So why do we do it? And why is it so uneven?

Why are tips being automatically added to what I'm getting charged at some delis for the sort of service the guys at Arby's do for free?

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  • Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    yeah, I'm not trash

  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    I only tip, and don't pay

    Just the tip

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    ah, this topic

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    now watch as this thread devolves into acrimony between people who live in different countries in which it is insinuated that everyone who behaves differently from me is a bad person

  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2012
    Just for a little while

    Just to see how it feels

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  • Sara LynnSara Lynn I can handle myself. Registered User regular
    tipping exists because

    any questions

  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    Tipping isn't a thing where I grew up really, people get paid minimum wage.

    But I do it when I'm in the States, although I feel weird.

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    what's the minimum wage relative to the cost of living where you live
    people working tip-service jobs where i'm at cannot live comfortably off of minimum wage alone, so tipping is expected, and of course i tip because that's the system i'm in

  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    I do not tip. Because it is not a thing that is done in Australia. Because the cost of paying staff a decent wage is built into the price on the menu.

    Plus even though the Australian dollar is almost 1:1 to the US dollar, the Australian minimum wage is as much as 3 times that of some US states.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Because tipping in America is a broken mess of what it is supposed to be. And it's moved so far away from the original intent you can't change it.

    As I am going to America later in the year I am going to be the ignorant foreigner and not tip, and when they ask for one I will tell them that even if it's just a tip, it still counts as sex.

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    tip: if a lock is sticking, try scribbling on the key with a pencil and putting it into the lock. the graphite dust will lubricate the pins and restore full functionality to the lock!

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  • Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    yeah as long as servers get two bucks an hour I'll tip unless I actually see someone spit into my food in front of me

    is it bullshit, yeah, probably

    I'm still not going to change it by screwing somebody out of money they count on, especially when the savings on their paycheck are incorporated, at least on some level, into the price of the meal

  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    Yes, but not as much as I'm told is socially expected, and nine times out of ten it is absolutely because of the stigma.

    I'm happy to give my barber a few extra bucks, but I generally don't have that kind of a relationship with very many people in the service industry.

    I actually really like gratuity, because it takes the "how much?" out of the equation-- forces me not to be as stingy as I'd like to be (but also eats my money).

  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    the powder keg thread

  • Sara LynnSara Lynn I can handle myself. Registered User regular
    Blake T wrote: »
    Because tipping in America is a broken mess of what it is supposed to be. And it's moved so far away from the original intent you can't change it.

    As I am going to America later in the year I am going to be the ignorant foreigner and not tip, and when they ask for one I will tell them that even if it's just a tip, it still counts as sex.

    Except they won't ask for one. Any server that doesn't want to look like an idiot, anyway, will just take the loss and move on to the next table.

  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Blake T wrote: »
    Because tipping in America is a broken mess of what it is supposed to be. And it's moved so far away from the original intent you can't change it.

    As I am going to America later in the year I am going to be the ignorant foreigner and not tip, and when they ask for one I will tell them that even if it's just a tip, it still counts as sex.

    Well don't do THAT. It's a broken system but people don't get paid if you don't tip. I don't like being the asshole who doesn't tip!

    When I lived in the US I generally just tacked 15% onto the price of everything and paid THAT, screw the service quality.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Bogey wrote: »
    Just for a little while

    Just to see how it feels

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    My Mom was a waitress/bartender most of her life so I always tip. I pretty much do 20% unless the service was exceptionally good or bad. Then I'll knock it up to 30% or down to 10%.

    I don't generally tip more than a buck or two at buffets though. All they do is get drinks and I'd rather do that myself honestly.

  • AgahnimAgahnim Registered User regular
    I tip almost all the time because I'm a sucker. I've stopped giving tips to my starbucks because I am always disappointed with the way they make my drinks. I am starting to question my always tip mentality though and will likely just tip at restaurants (unless the service is terrible.)

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    tip: if a lock is sticking, try scribbling on the key with a pencil and putting it into the lock. the graphite dust will lubricate the pins and restore full functionality to the lock!

    does this actually work

    because I have this precise problem with our garage door lock

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Good service tip, bad service no tip. Like the time I was at dinner with @ceres and the waiter threw something she asked for at her. Also he was rude as shit anyway. No tip.

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    my tip percentage is dictated by my skin pigment

  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    some guy who used to be a waiter and chef got real mad when I said yeah 18% no matter the service

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    If someone was really bad I suppose I might not tip. However, I've never had service that bad.

  • EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    the only time service was bad enough I wasn't going to tip the meal ended up on the house after all

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    if someone is very visibly trying, I'll probably drop 20% because I'm generally a nice person

    but like, it'd have to catch my attention as significant above and beyond what I traditionally expect as decent service in a restaurant

    it's not, you know, unreasonable... just little things like grabbing me a new knife when I drop mine on the floor without me even needing to ask first... stuff like that

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    End wrote: »
    the only time service was bad enough I wasn't going to tip the meal ended up on the house after all

    same, but it wasn't the waitresses fault at all so we tipped anyway

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
    i tip anywhere from 15-20% based on the service but 15% is my minimum

    and i tip them because they are doing a job i wouldn't do that benefits me

    i also do my best to be pleasant because all my food service and retail friends tell me it makes more of a difference than we know

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    If someone was really bad I suppose I might not tip. However, I've never had service that bad.

    When I have to go fill my own damn drink at the fountain because the waitress hasn't checked the table ever

    That's bad enough.

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
    i throw down a couple bucks because i'm poor

    a couple extra when i was in high school and usually knew the server or their brother/sister

    tip your waitstaff, they don't make a goddamn thing without tips

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    I tip delivery drivers.

    If they do a good job.

    Lately though I haven't had any.

    I on the other hand was an excellent delivery driver.

  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    are we having europe vs america culture wars in here yet

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    i also do my best to be pleasant because all my food service and retail friends tell me it makes more of a difference than we know

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    I always tip

    always

    unless the service is incredibly poor as a result of something the waiter does directly (i.e., not the kitchen).

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    yes, because I'm not an asshole


    unless they were an asshole, they get a tip from me. If they were particularly awesome, they get a bigger tip. I'm not a wealthy person, but if I can't afford to tip then I probably shouldn't be going out to eat/taking the cab/getting the haircut this month either.

  • Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    I tip 20% automatically, more in extrenuating circumstances (bad weather food delivery, particularly nice/cool service), but rarely, RARELY less.

  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    15% is my base, up and down based on service

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    you're not expected to tip in China, but there are places in Shanghai and Beijing where they actually refuse to take a tip even if you offer it to them in cash and in person

    (my mum and I both tried it on two separate occasions and were turned down twice! we were AMAZED!)

    so what we do instead as a family is pay compliments to the restaurant manager or owner if we received excellent service and make sure the person in question is recognized for that

    it's nice when we go back to a restaurant to see that someone who received good feedback from us got a promotion :)

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    If you don't flirt with the waitress

    Then you are not getting serviced

    Oh ho ho ho

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