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Honestly they need to give the semi-autos 20 round magazines and more damage. The class as a whole is just pathetic. You need one recon per team with a MAV.
Well, two maybe depending on the map/the way people are spread out. But yeah, Recon is definitely not a class worth having a ton of. Generally the team with the most Recons loses.
Seriously. Im a recon at heart. My first service stars came recon before I had even one with the others.
Now? Why be a recon ever? radar? Who cares- its jet speed close quarters....
All we ever bring to the table is The occasional completly badass MAV mumble guidance through an encounter for your team mates (which nets us very little to do this point/stat wise), a mobile spawn (made null by spawning on squadmates) and the ability to kill mans (which we are not very efficient at).
As an assault I spew death easily. I heal. I rez. I smoke when proper to. It doesnt match up.
How do they fix that and make the recon bring something to the table?
Make the recon able to trade the spawn beacon for m320 SMOKE, or longer lasting Smoke grenades. its sneaky. It fits the recon. But I dunno. they bring so god damnned little to the table.
maybe sticky grenades that can kill people/ severely hinder vehicle movement untill repaired (but not necesarrily kill.) This is ontop of having the frags.
But my beloved recon does not bring good tools to help the others on my squad.
Part of the problem with Recon is that it involves a TON more work and skill than the other classes in order to do what an assault player can do while drunk and half asleep. Granted, a good Recon that's on the ball is the grim fucking reaper at all ranges, but you've basically got to be an unholy headshot machine to make it happen. The overwhelming vast majority of players just cannot get the Recon to operate at the level required to make it an asset to the team. Then again, the overwhelming vast majority of players are complete chickenshits that sit 1000 yards away trying to get headshots and missing 99/100 shots.
What I'd like to see is this:
The TUGS needs to be an infinite use item on a cooldown that can just be thrown like a an ammo/med crate. Right now it is completely fucking useless compared to the MAV.
MAV is fine.
C4 and lots of it. Take it away from the support who should have never had it in the first place and give it back to the rightful lords of stealth nuking things.
The SOFLAM is fine these days.
The Spawn Beacon should not cause people to parachute in on open maps. It's supposed to be a sneaky spawn toy that guards against squad wipes, but it's kinda bad at that. Its size was fine before it got an antennae big enough to pick up Direct TV on.
Gun wise we're fine save for the stupid amount of bolt action rifles that keep being thrown at us.
TUGS is way better than mav. Deploys faster because you autoswitch back to your gun. It's much harder to find and shoot than the mav.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
Does it actually do more damage if I shoot the ground?
I mean I am following people and shooting them point blank in the back, I usually get 3-4 shots into their backs before they turn around and just drop me with the starter pistol.
I have no explanation for that other than that you're missing. Two direct hits to the chest is enough to kill, but the jackhammer's frag accuracy is utter shit. Shoot the ground and you'll get the kill in 3 or 4 shots. Best to get the jump on the guy.
Battlemans: DiscoCabbage | Elite: Dangerous: Aleksandr Khabaj
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TheExAmGerrymandered your districtsRegistered Userregular
One guy's hack last nite even extended to player movement; he was moving geometrically, meaning that everything was squared off, all his turns were perfect right angles, with little jukes from side to side to make him a tougher target to hit. At that point you're practically running a bot, why not go the full way and automate the player completely while you download porn ?
Keep in mind that, what you see in the kill cam, is often not representative of what the person is actually doing. It's just the game's best guess. The Kill Cams are especially bad, but it's always like that. That being said, I have run into maybe 1 or 2 hackers in recent memory. They were really obvious too. Most of the time, even if someone is hacking, they are SO bad at the game that it's pretty easy to kill them anyway. y
Yeah, killcams show the enemy player as if they're outside your view. The game doesn't bother updating player positions very often if you can't see them, for performance reasons.
Battlemans: DiscoCabbage | Elite: Dangerous: Aleksandr Khabaj
I'm another vote for CQ being awesome. Although it might just be that I moved in with the wife and my xbox is the only thing running on the router, the game seems to run much smoother now too. Hopefully I'll have some time to mix it up with Dug and Teenagehead some more.
I'm another vote for CQ being awesome. Although it might just be that I moved in with the wife and my xbox is the only thing running on the router, the game seems to run much smoother now too. Hopefully I'll have some time to mix it up with Dug and Teenagehead some more.
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I'm recovering from a massive storm that just shattered some trees in my 'hood. Comp got a weird fatal error and i had to do startup repair but it seems to be fine atm. Need to get that dome ragin
@Mulletude, I pulled Donya Fortress Gun Master out and replaced it with Ziba tower after Honch, Marlowe and I were raging on it earlier and since we talked about doing it last night.
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HonkHonk is this poster.Registered User, __BANNED USERSregular
Does it actually do more damage if I shoot the ground?
I mean I am following people and shooting them point blank in the back, I usually get 3-4 shots into their backs before they turn around and just drop me with the starter pistol.
I have no explanation for that other than that you're missing. Two direct hits to the chest is enough to kill, but the jackhammer's frag accuracy is utter shit. Shoot the ground and you'll get the kill in 3 or 4 shots. Best to get the jump on the guy.
More likely client side hit detection. It's pretty terrible in this game.
But I got the gist of that, I'll try shooting more to the ground with that gun.
I'm another vote for CQ being awesome. Although it might just be that I moved in with the wife and my xbox is the only thing running on the router, the game seems to run much smoother now too. Hopefully I'll have some time to mix it up with Dug and Teenagehead some more.
@Mulletude, I pulled Donya Fortress Gun Master out and replaced it with Ziba tower after Honch, Marlowe and I were raging on it earlier and since we talked about doing it last night.
Honch is playing again? I thought we wouldn't see him after the last time.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
@Mulletude, I pulled Donya Fortress Gun Master out and replaced it with Ziba tower after Honch, Marlowe and I were raging on it earlier and since we talked about doing it last night.
Cool. Forgot to do that before stopping last night. Thinking about playing BF...But soooooooo tired
I'm another vote for CQ being awesome. Although it might just be that I moved in with the wife and my xbox is the only thing running on the router, the game seems to run much smoother now too. Hopefully I'll have some time to mix it up with Dug and Teenagehead some more.
@Mulletude, I pulled Donya Fortress Gun Master out and replaced it with Ziba tower after Honch, Marlowe and I were raging on it earlier and since we talked about doing it last night.
Honch is playing again? I thought we wouldn't see him after the last time.
That was last night and not today, Jebus. You know we are bffs! Honch jumped in our party and then played two or three games of CQD and then we both quit after Gun Master. I climbed my way from the middle of the pack to level 16 and lucked into a grenade kill when guys had been on the launcher for five minutes, then got the stab for the win.
Honestly they need to give the semi-autos 20 round magazines and more damage. The class as a whole is just pathetic. You need one recon per team with a MAV.
Well, two maybe depending on the map/the way people are spread out. But yeah, Recon is definitely not a class worth having a ton of. Generally the team with the most Recons loses.
Seriously. Im a recon at heart. My first service stars came recon before I had even one with the others.
Now? Why be a recon ever? radar? Who cares- its jet speed close quarters....
All we ever bring to the table is The occasional completly badass MAV mumble guidance through an encounter for your team mates (which nets us very little to do this point/stat wise), a mobile spawn (made null by spawning on squadmates) and the ability to kill mans (which we are not very efficient at).
As an assault I spew death easily. I heal. I rez. I smoke when proper to. It doesnt match up.
How do they fix that and make the recon bring something to the table?
Make the recon able to trade the spawn beacon for m320 SMOKE, or longer lasting Smoke grenades. its sneaky. It fits the recon. But I dunno. they bring so god damnned little to the table.
maybe sticky grenades that can kill people/ severely hinder vehicle movement untill repaired (but not necesarrily kill.) This is ontop of having the frags.
But my beloved recon does not bring good tools to help the others on my squad.
Part of the problem with Recon is that it involves a TON more work and skill than the other classes in order to do what an assault player can do while drunk and half asleep. Granted, a good Recon that's on the ball is the grim fucking reaper at all ranges, but you've basically got to be an unholy headshot machine to make it happen. The overwhelming vast majority of players just cannot get the Recon to operate at the level required to make it an asset to the team. Then again, the overwhelming vast majority of players are complete chickenshits that sit 1000 yards away trying to get headshots and missing 99/100 shots.
What I'd like to see is this:
The TUGS needs to be an infinite use item on a cooldown that can just be thrown like a an ammo/med crate. Right now it is completely fucking useless compared to the MAV.
MAV is fine.
C4 and lots of it. Take it away from the support who should have never had it in the first place and give it back to the rightful lords of stealth nuking things.
The SOFLAM is fine these days.
The Spawn Beacon should not cause people to parachute in on open maps. It's supposed to be a sneaky spawn toy that guards against squad wipes, but it's kinda bad at that. Its size was fine before it got an antennae big enough to pick up Direct TV on.
Gun wise we're fine save for the stupid amount of bolt action rifles that keep being thrown at us.
TUGS is way better than mav. Deploys faster because you autoswitch back to your gun. It's much harder to find and shoot than the mav.
The size of the TUGS has mattered absolute dick in my experience. The god damn beeping noise is going to let people know the TUGS is there anyway so it's not like it's a stealthier option. The deploy speed difference is so marginal that it's not an issue. Besides, why are you trying to deploy the MAV right on the spot where you need it? With the MAV you can just deploy it behind the lines, move it to where you want, and then go start killing mans. Once the area is clear, you just reposition your MAV (which takes no time at all) and go start killing mans there. The time it takes to jump into the MAV pilot seat and out again is much faster than going through the suicidal effort of trying to sneak forward to deploy your TUGS, pick it up, move it by hand, replant it, etc. You can also get the MAV into much better spots since it, yanno, flies.
The TUGS is worse than the MAV at everything ever and you should feel bad for believing otherwise. The only people who ever use the TUGS are idiot snipers that never move.
TUGS are pretty handy for Metro because they hear through floors and ceilings.
So does the MAV. It is literally a flying TUGS with even more functionality. I park it on buildings all the time to get motion scans of the dudes down below and if there's nothing to park it on, then I'll fly it to maximum altitude and then let it slowly drift back to Earth as I rush in and pop everyone. It keeps motion scanning even when you're not in control of it.
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That_GuyI don't wanna be that guyRegistered Userregular
Tog, remind us again what it is that you do on the boat you are on?
I saw a kid get handed a JB poster by who I presume was his parents outside my store today....he tore it in half infront of his horrified parents.....There's hope for our youth yet!
Honestly they need to give the semi-autos 20 round magazines and more damage. The class as a whole is just pathetic. You need one recon per team with a MAV.
Well, two maybe depending on the map/the way people are spread out. But yeah, Recon is definitely not a class worth having a ton of. Generally the team with the most Recons loses.
Seriously. Im a recon at heart. My first service stars came recon before I had even one with the others.
Now? Why be a recon ever? radar? Who cares- its jet speed close quarters....
All we ever bring to the table is The occasional completly badass MAV mumble guidance through an encounter for your team mates (which nets us very little to do this point/stat wise), a mobile spawn (made null by spawning on squadmates) and the ability to kill mans (which we are not very efficient at).
As an assault I spew death easily. I heal. I rez. I smoke when proper to. It doesnt match up.
How do they fix that and make the recon bring something to the table?
Make the recon able to trade the spawn beacon for m320 SMOKE, or longer lasting Smoke grenades. its sneaky. It fits the recon. But I dunno. they bring so god damnned little to the table.
maybe sticky grenades that can kill people/ severely hinder vehicle movement untill repaired (but not necesarrily kill.) This is ontop of having the frags.
But my beloved recon does not bring good tools to help the others on my squad.
Part of the problem with Recon is that it involves a TON more work and skill than the other classes in order to do what an assault player can do while drunk and half asleep. Granted, a good Recon that's on the ball is the grim fucking reaper at all ranges, but you've basically got to be an unholy headshot machine to make it happen. The overwhelming vast majority of players just cannot get the Recon to operate at the level required to make it an asset to the team. Then again, the overwhelming vast majority of players are complete chickenshits that sit 1000 yards away trying to get headshots and missing 99/100 shots.
What I'd like to see is this:
The TUGS needs to be an infinite use item on a cooldown that can just be thrown like a an ammo/med crate. Right now it is completely fucking useless compared to the MAV.
MAV is fine.
C4 and lots of it. Take it away from the support who should have never had it in the first place and give it back to the rightful lords of stealth nuking things.
The SOFLAM is fine these days.
The Spawn Beacon should not cause people to parachute in on open maps. It's supposed to be a sneaky spawn toy that guards against squad wipes, but it's kinda bad at that. Its size was fine before it got an antennae big enough to pick up Direct TV on.
Gun wise we're fine save for the stupid amount of bolt action rifles that keep being thrown at us.
TUGS is way better than mav. Deploys faster because you autoswitch back to your gun. It's much harder to find and shoot than the mav.
The size of the TUGS has mattered absolute dick in my experience. The god damn beeping noise is going to let people know the TUGS is there anyway so it's not like it's a stealthier option. The deploy speed difference is so marginal that it's not an issue. Besides, why are you trying to deploy the MAV right on the spot where you need it? With the MAV you can just deploy it behind the lines, move it to where you want, and then go start killing mans. Once the area is clear, you just reposition your MAV (which takes no time at all) and go start killing mans there. The time it takes to jump into the MAV pilot seat and out again is much faster than going through the suicidal effort of trying to sneak forward to deploy your TUGS, pick it up, move it by hand, replant it, etc. You can also get the MAV into much better spots since it, yanno, flies.
The TUGS is worse than the MAV at everything ever and you should feel bad for believing otherwise. The only people who ever use the TUGS are idiot snipers that never move.
Time flying the mav is time I could be shooting mans. Or moving towards objectives. And they hear the beep,they see the mav and shoot it. Proper placement of the tugs and. Look dont find it. Look some more and then maybe try to shoot the tiny hit box it has. By that time you have shot them multiple times in the face. I only use the tugs or the mav fo defense.
As a top 1 percenter on xbox spm I feel confident im doing it right.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
As a top 1 percenter on xbox spm I feel confident im doing it right.
And I've got over 500 SPM as a dedicated Recon whore. What's your point? Trying to dick wave in this thread is just going to get you laughed at.
I only use the tugs or the mav fo defense.
That's your first mistake. The MAV is incredibly offensive. Like I said, deploy it, fly it forward and hide it on top of a building, or even better in a building window that people can't get to, shoot at, etc. There are A LOT of these hidey holes on the maps. Then you pull out your handy dandy gun and go raid the place knowing where every single person is at. The payoff for the ten seconds you spend mav flying is very worth it. You are a Recon player. Your job is to spot the mans and then shoot the mans. Only using your gear defensively is a waste of potential.
And they hear the beep,they see the mav and shoot it.
See prior paragraph. My MAVs have a very high survival rate. If you are leaving your MAV on the ground in the open, then that's your own damn fault.
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TUGS is way better than mav. Deploys faster because you autoswitch back to your gun. It's much harder to find and shoot than the mav.
but they're listening to every word I say
If I have premium on PC, and I use the same EA id on PS3, do I get Premium there as well?
Don't think so.
y u no take my application?
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
Battlemans: DiscoCabbage | Elite: Dangerous: Aleksandr Khabaj
Battlemans: DiscoCabbage | Elite: Dangerous: Aleksandr Khabaj
Heh, you don't really think you're paying for a license to play the game, do you?
Seine is a good map if not clusterfucked with mans.
Hopefully the Dome will have map-voting enabled...power to the peoples!
DOOOOOO IIIIITTTTTT
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More likely client side hit detection. It's pretty terrible in this game.
But I got the gist of that, I'll try shooting more to the ground with that gun.
The M320 buck shot will actually shoot based on your ping, it's like Quake rockets on dialup all over again!
I get no love? Sadface!
Honch is playing again? I thought we wouldn't see him after the last time.
but they're listening to every word I say
Cool. Forgot to do that before stopping last night. Thinking about playing BF...But soooooooo tired
That was last night and not today, Jebus. You know we are bffs! Honch jumped in our party and then played two or three games of CQD and then we both quit after Gun Master. I climbed my way from the middle of the pack to level 16 and lucked into a grenade kill when guys had been on the launcher for five minutes, then got the stab for the win.
The size of the TUGS has mattered absolute dick in my experience. The god damn beeping noise is going to let people know the TUGS is there anyway so it's not like it's a stealthier option. The deploy speed difference is so marginal that it's not an issue. Besides, why are you trying to deploy the MAV right on the spot where you need it? With the MAV you can just deploy it behind the lines, move it to where you want, and then go start killing mans. Once the area is clear, you just reposition your MAV (which takes no time at all) and go start killing mans there. The time it takes to jump into the MAV pilot seat and out again is much faster than going through the suicidal effort of trying to sneak forward to deploy your TUGS, pick it up, move it by hand, replant it, etc. You can also get the MAV into much better spots since it, yanno, flies.
The TUGS is worse than the MAV at everything ever and you should feel bad for believing otherwise. The only people who ever use the TUGS are idiot snipers that never move.
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edit: img tags refuse to work for this. I assume it is the format...
So does the MAV.
Do you want the lie I tell everybody or the truth?
What I tell people:
STEAM!
Time flying the mav is time I could be shooting mans. Or moving towards objectives. And they hear the beep,they see the mav and shoot it. Proper placement of the tugs and. Look dont find it. Look some more and then maybe try to shoot the tiny hit box it has. By that time you have shot them multiple times in the face. I only use the tugs or the mav fo defense.
As a top 1 percenter on xbox spm I feel confident im doing it right.
but they're listening to every word I say
edit: scratch that
Yeah but we were all called "FAGGOTS" so, you know, that's cool.
Anyway, good times during the 4-man pistols only Scrapyard after the server died down. Ridiculous scores were had by all.
That's your first mistake. The MAV is incredibly offensive. Like I said, deploy it, fly it forward and hide it on top of a building, or even better in a building window that people can't get to, shoot at, etc. There are A LOT of these hidey holes on the maps. Then you pull out your handy dandy gun and go raid the place knowing where every single person is at. The payoff for the ten seconds you spend mav flying is very worth it. You are a Recon player. Your job is to spot the mans and then shoot the mans. Only using your gear defensively is a waste of potential. See prior paragraph. My MAVs have a very high survival rate. If you are leaving your MAV on the ground in the open, then that's your own damn fault.