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[TRENCHES] Thursday, June 14, 2012 - Abundance

GethGeth LegionPerseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
edited June 2012 in The Penny Arcade Hub
Abundance


Abundance
http://trenchescomic.com/comic/post/abundance

Yo quiero español

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We were doing localization preparation for a project which needed to be localized in Spanish. After a week or two of receiving and compiling bids from translation companies, we presented them to the Executive Producer.

His response? The cost is outrageous, and he instructed us to drive down to Taco Bell and find some Spanish speaking people, and we’ll pay them under the table to translate the game for us.


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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Isaac forgot to say "Stop, little fries basket, stop!"[/Fairy Tale]

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    jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    The look on the waitress's face. She is disappointed in his inability to keep up. Keep up, Isaac, keep up.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    I think she's just pissed at the guy who only orders fries and yells at her when he can see the bottom of the basket through the rest of the fries.

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    collinccollinc Registered User regular
    Is anyone else terribly confused as to what has been going on pretty much all season?

    Earlier in the season Isaac gets full Staranium armor. Then Credenza says the Mole has full Staranium armor. Then Isaac goes on for a few comics acting like he doesn't know who the mole is. Then he takes Cora out to eat and tells her she is going to get fired.

    Is there something I'm missing or is it supposed to be this stupid?

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    collinc wrote: »
    Is anyone else terribly confused as to what has been going on pretty much all season?

    Earlier in the season Isaac gets full Staranium armor. Then Credenza says the Mole has full Staranium armor. Then Isaac goes on for a few comics acting like he doesn't know who the mole is. Then he takes Cora out to eat and tells her she is going to get fired.

    Is there something I'm missing or is it supposed to be this stupid?

    The mole never had the armor. The mole said someone on the QA staff had full staranium.

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    Goodfella2487Goodfella2487 Registered User regular
    Adorable waitress is adorable.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    yeah, I don't really understand what is going on in this storyline. I know that the chick is the mole because isaac says it, but I don't know what she leaked or why it's bad.

    people are just saying it's bad, but not what is actually happening.

    But in any event, I don't understand the "stand" she's taking, or how this equates to her caring too much. Also, the stand she appears to be making seems super silly and worthless. She talks about how she cares so much, but what does she care about? That someone has some armor in a game? I don't understand.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    She seems like the sort of person who talks about caring too much and making martyr choices out of insignificant events in order to feel morally superior to those around her.

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    NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Guys, it's not confusing.

    Issac abused his position by finding an economy breaking flaw in the game and exploiting it rather than reporting it immediately. When he DID report it, the damage was done - all of the actual players were abusing the same flaw, utterly destroying the in-game economy.

    In order to fix it, the game needs a rollback, which will essentially gut the game's subscriber base.

    Cora is the mole, sharing this info (Issac abusing the system, the impending rollback) on the game's official forums because she feels the players have the right to know the truth.

    It's all very clear, especially if you go back and re-read it.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    The management is attempting to cover up the extent of the screwup with a scripted event to handwave all the gold. Cora's stance is to reveal to the players soon to be affected by this about the extent of the screwup, presumably out of a belief that the customers deserve to know. Admittedly it can be debated whether her belief is a good one.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Ok, I do not think that is clear at all. Lots of the narrative seems pretty loose.

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    Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    It can be hard to follow a plot when you're reading serially instead of archivally, because the details have time to fall out of your head between installments.

    Fortunately, you can always go back and reread a big chunk all at once to refresh your memory.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Ok, I do not think that is clear at all. Lots of the narrative seems pretty loose.

    Really?

    It's pretty straightforward. Much better than last season.

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    NeuroskepticNeuroskeptic Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    I found it clear although it does rely (too much I think, for a comic) on reading & remembering particular strips. If you missed the one where Isaac gets full armor then the whole thing makes no sense. Same for the one where Cora says "they have a right to know".

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Weird. My browser is getting a strange display bug where the Tale cuts off after two paragraphs so I can't see the rest of the story.

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    GyralGyral Registered User regular
    That is the whole story. :P

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    Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    I think he was being sardonic :P

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Issac abused his position by finding an economy breaking flaw in the game and exploiting it rather than reporting it immediately.

    It wasn't abusing his position, he found it as a player. He just didn't give a shit about the welfare of the game that he's responsible for helping create and maintain, the company that's paying his salary, or the players who are paying for the game, and thus for him to have a job.

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    fallenphoenixfallenphoenix Registered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Issac abused his position by finding an economy breaking flaw in the game and exploiting it rather than reporting it immediately.

    It wasn't abusing his position, he found it as a player. He just didn't give a shit about the welfare of the game that he's responsible for helping create and maintain, the company that's paying his salary, or the players who are paying for the game, and thus for him to have a job.

    The abuse lies more in Isaac not reporting it than in his method of discovering the flaw in the first place. You could argue that if he found the flaw "off the clock" it wasn't his job to report it, but unless the knowledge of that flaw disappears the moment he clocks in to work, he's making the conscious decision to not report it as a bug. I still can't figure out why someone testing a game like this would choose to play it in their off-time.

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    Black_HeartBlack_Heart Registered User regular
    The post about the Spanish translation project is fucking priceless.

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    SticksSticks I'd rather be in bed.Registered User regular
    The high school kids at the Taco Bell near me would be confused as shit. I don't think anyone there speaks Spanish.

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    AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited June 2012
    jothki wrote: »
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Issac abused his position by finding an economy breaking flaw in the game and exploiting it rather than reporting it immediately.

    It wasn't abusing his position, he found it as a player. He just didn't give a shit about the welfare of the game that he's responsible for helping create and maintain, the company that's paying his salary, or the players who are paying for the game, and thus for him to have a job.

    The abuse lies more in Isaac not reporting it than in his method of discovering the flaw in the first place. You could argue that if he found the flaw "off the clock" it wasn't his job to report it, but unless the knowledge of that flaw disappears the moment he clocks in to work, he's making the conscious decision to not report it as a bug. I still can't figure out why someone testing a game like this would choose to play it in their off-time.

    Maybe he's poor and this is the only game he can afford to play, which he presumably got for free by being a tester?

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    Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Not to mention that because of the abuse and failure to report the problem, Marley took the fall for it (since it was his sector to work on) and got fired because of it.

    Blisaac sounds like a good replacement name.

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    JortalusJortalus Registered User regular
    You know, this whole situation reminds me of something...Doesn't Isaac live in his car? Where is he playing this game at if he's not at the testing place?

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    GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Not to mention that because of the abuse and failure to report the problem, Marley took the fall for it (since it was his sector to work on) and got fired because of it.

    In fairness, since the sector was Marley's responsibility during testing, and he found the bug first but failed to report it (rather delegating it to a hallucinatory chimerical assistant), he did deserve blame.

    Jortalus wrote:
    You know, this whole situation reminds me of something...Doesn't Isaac live in his car? Where is he playing this game at if he's not at the testing place?

    He could have managed to get a place now that he's been working for a while. It's not really clear how much time is supposed to have elapsed since the beginning of the comic. Or maybe he just plays on a laptop at coffee shops.

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    marsiliesmarsilies Registered User regular
    The abuse lies more in Isaac not reporting it than in his method of discovering the flaw in the first place. You could argue that if he found the flaw "off the clock" it wasn't his job to report it, but unless the knowledge of that flaw disappears the moment he clocks in to work, he's making the conscious decision to not report it as a bug.
    To be fair, he did report it as soon as he "clocked in" next. He discovered the bug while they were on a break, so he went several days or weeks without going to work.

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    I think he was being sardonic :P
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    GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    marsilies wrote: »
    The abuse lies more in Isaac not reporting it than in his method of discovering the flaw in the first place. You could argue that if he found the flaw "off the clock" it wasn't his job to report it, but unless the knowledge of that flaw disappears the moment he clocks in to work, he's making the conscious decision to not report it as a bug.
    To be fair, he did report it as soon as he "clocked in" next. He discovered the bug while they were on a break, so he went several days or weeks without going to work.

    True. It's possible there was nobody working who could have fixed the bug if he had reported it then anyway. Still, the fact that his first thought was exploiting the glitch for personal gain shows some irresponsibility.

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    jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    The fault lies with the system. Marley was working without a proper amount of rest. No one can work at 100% in those conditions. The work still had to get done though so it isn't like Q could have sent everyone home either. In that situation they should be more forgiving of mistakes. Unfortunately in the corporate world there's always a need to blame a person and never actually try to fix the underlying system that was really responsible for the mistake in the first place.

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