Who wrote that?
Do they seriously think Joe Moviegoer is gonna say Oh cool Darkseid!
They're going to avengers because of four damn movies worth of hype leading into it. Justice league will he lucky to have a somewhat well received superman movie that's two years old at that point.
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I don't like the idea of doing this with no buildup. That means they'll have to do all of that + introducing everyone + the teaming up + plus whatever actual conflict there is in 2 hours.
I feel like a good darsied needs a lot of build up because he acts more like an infection in our world than a "pop out of a portal and punch superman" villain.
Also I think it's humorous the jl will be the more derivative of the two to the general movie going public for using a "thanos clone" as the bad guy
JL will do fine. Just the concept of Batman and Superman teaming up is enough for the average person to go check it out.
Which makes me wonder if a World's Finest movie with just Supes and Bats might not be a better idea than a full-fledged Justice League movie, if only because the degree of difficulty is lower.
This would be better if it spent more than the second to last paragraph on what made the Arrow pilot work like it promised, but it's a nice piece on why exactly the WW pilot was terrible.
JL will do fine. Just the concept of Batman and Superman teaming up is enough for the average person to go check it out.
Though wasn't Darkseid pretty much a given? What are the other big JL threats they could go with?
Brainiac, the Lord of Time, Starro, Vandal Savage, the Injustice League, Injustice Gang, Crime Syndicate of Amerika etc. Going with Darkseid is extremely foolish considering Avengers is using a similar villain in Thanos. They need to make Justice League unique, having villains (especially right away) that the Avengers are fighting is only going to make the comparisons more noticeable. Something WB/DCE don't need since Marvel's already kicking their ass with their movie super-hero division for a few years now.
JL will do fine. Just the concept of Batman and Superman teaming up is enough for the average person to go check it out.
Which makes me wonder if a World's Finest movie with just Supes and Bats might not be a better idea than a full-fledged Justice League movie, if only because the degree of difficulty is lower.
It is a better idea then a Justice League movie. They need to walk before they can run.
Honestly, they should just beat Avengers to the punch and do the Legion of Doom. You KNOW they're going to eventually do the Masters of Evil in the Avengers (in some capacity) once they get a good stable of not-dead villains goiing. (Stop killing off Iron Man's foes, dammit!)
Lex Luthor and the Joker alone would be a threat that I think audiences would enjoy watching; toss in Circe, Sinestro, that one evil martian who's name I can't remember (the one that' s immune to fire) and one of Flash's villains for comic relief.
Actually, you know what, forget the Justice League; can I get a Legion of Doom movie?
Because movies with multiple villains have worked out really well?
And man do I hate the Superman poster. It's so boring. "You will believe a man can walk down a hallway" just isn't that great of a tagline. Plus it kinda looks like he's covering his junk.
Because movies with multiple villains have worked out really well?
They can be. Nolan does it well. All they need is to get people who can direct and write ensemble casts successfully. Darkseid traditionally won't work alone, either. He's got numerous high profile generals and troops to do his bidding. He isn't going to Earth with just the parademons...or at least he shouldn't be.
"We're probably never going to get to make another one of these, so we're going to use every villain we can think of."
Granted, they had to change things (taking typically solo villains and grouping them into various gangs, changing the Blank's identity entirely, etc.).
Usually Harry is the cooler guy who sort of takes Peter under his wing, at least socially, so I'm surprised they went with a guy who's so diminutive and seems like a loner. Maybe they're changing the dynamic.
Watching the second Batman/Bane fight from DKR on youtube, some of the fighting in the background is so painfully fake looking. I know that's usually the case but it's extra noticable in that movie. Course I didn't notice the first time watching cause I was too busy shitting my pants when Bane was wailing on Batman against the pillar.
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That Man of Steel poster seems to be trying too hard to have meaning. And the lack of any real color, you don't have to be Batman, Superman!
I know that he's probably being taken in of his own volition or after being somehow depowered, but the idea of putting Superman in handcuffs just seems so silly.
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It just feels like a normal cliched Hollywood thing where it's going to show something long seen as innocent and idolatry and crash modern cynicism on it, even though we've seen that play out for the past twenty years at minimum. Maybe add in an angry senator.
I think that's why I liked Iron Man so much, both as an origin and a movie. The way Tony handles the media and even the air force trying to shoot him down is never really heavy on any disillusionment or sad stuff, it's just a misunderstanding, take it away Phil Collins.
Eh Superman in handcuffs could just as easily be Superman choosing to be handcuffs. Obeying the laws of mankind, not holding himself above others, you know Superman stuff. A bit hokey but it isn't the worse image in the world. The photo really is lacking in colour though. Ironically it almost seems to be trying to convey Superman as some sort of bright light but since his costume is so muted everything surrounding him has to be toned down just that much more.
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Just about every premise I can think of that would allow Darkseid out of the gate in a JL movie is a premise that will never, ever, appear in a blockbuster movie.
Eh Superman in handcuffs could just as easily be Superman choosing to be handcuffs. Obeying the laws of mankind, not holding himself above others, you know Superman stuff.
He is above everyone else; he is Superman.
What is the point? There can't be some sort of trial of Superman bullshit because no one is going to pay to see people discuss. Jesus Christ. Show; don't tell. It's Intro to Film 101 FFS. There is nothing of value that comes with seeing Superman avail himself to be chained by man. If he wants to convince people he is their protector, that he is to be trusted, it can only be measured in deeds—not words. So what is the point? All I see in this image is every bullshit "Superman is too powerful. Superman isn't relatable. Superman is too super" complaint made by lazy writers and people who seem to fundamentally miss the whole point of Superman. I don't want him in the real world. As soon as Superman comes to exist in this world—a solar-powered alien who looks like a Midwestern farm boy and who can fly, juggle skyscrapers, and manipulate energy from his orifices—everything "rational" and "realistic" ceases to be on the table.
A team of Navy SEALs isn't going to bring him in, and I don't want to see him even bother resisting them. He wouldn't, because he knows better. And he can instantly remove himself from the scene to do good literally anywhere in the world. "Sorry your ambush didn't work. I decided to leave your men be and just stopped a tsunami from wiping out Hawaii instead."
Fuck this noise. This poster is the single image embodiment of every fucking thing I hate about modern comics.
Eh Superman in handcuffs could just as easily be Superman choosing to be handcuffs. Obeying the laws of mankind, not holding himself above others, you know Superman stuff.
He is above everyone else; he is Superman.
What is the point? There can't be some sort of trial of Superman bullshit because no one is going to pay to see people discuss. Jesus Christ. Show; don't tell. It's Intro to Film 101 FFS. There is nothing of value that comes with seeing Superman avail himself to be chained by man. If he wants to convince people he is their protector, that he is to be trusted, it can only be measured in deeds—not words. So what is the point? All I see in this image is every bullshit "Superman is too powerful. Superman isn't relatable. Superman is too super" complaint made by lazy writers and people who seem to fundamentally miss the whole point of Superman. I don't want him in the real world. As soon as Superman comes to exist in this world—a solar-powered alien who looks like a Midwestern farm boy and who can fly, juggle skyscrapers, and manipulate energy from his orifices—everything "rational" and "realistic" ceases to be on the table.
A team of Navy SEALs isn't going to bring him in, and I don't want to see him even bother resisting them. He wouldn't, because he knows better. And he can instantly remove himself from the scene to do good literally anywhere in the world. "Sorry your ambush didn't work. I decided to leave your men be and just stopped a tsunami from wiping out Hawaii instead."
Fuck this noise. This poster is the single image embodiment of every fucking thing I hate about modern comics.
That depends on how "real" the movie will be. It's not impossible for the military to capture Superman with the right advanced technology and kryptonite. Another factor may be that Superman might want to be captured with the alternative being worse
Zod and Faora won't be afraid of nuking cities from orbit to make him comply, for example.
Just about every premise I can think of that would allow Darkseid out of the gate in a JL movie is a premise that will never, ever, appear in a blockbuster movie.
I figure that they're just going to copy the New 52's relaunch as best as they can, since it provides a clear blueprint for getting the team together and introducing the villain without requiring a ton of backstory.
They're still going to need to go to great lengths to get the average viewer up to speed on who all these characters are and why we should care about them, though, and I think that that's just too much of a burden for any film to bear.
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You can subtract two from the count, as Superman and Batman (and probably Green Lantern) need less exposition than the others. Still, that leaves three to five new characters to expound on. (Avengers had 1.5, as I'm counting Hawkeye and half of Black Widow).
Is seven a sacred number for Justice League, or can WB go with less than that for the member count?
Just about every premise I can think of that would allow Darkseid out of the gate in a JL movie is a premise that will never, ever, appear in a blockbuster movie.
I figure that they're just going to copy the New 52's relaunch as best as they can, since it provides a clear blueprint for getting the team together and introducing the villain without requiring a ton of backstory.
They're still going to need to go to great lengths to get the average viewer up to speed on who all these characters are and why we should care about them, though, and I think that that's just too much of a burden for any film to bear.
Especially when they don't have any heavy hitter directors in the running to execute the movie. Marvel was smart enough to hand the reins over the Joss Whedon. Who's WB going to give Justice League to?
You can subtract two from the count, as Superman and Batman (and probably Green Lantern) need less exposition than the others. Still, that leaves three to five new characters to expound on. (Avengers had 1.5, as I'm counting Hawkeye and half of Black Widow).
Is seven a sacred number for Justice League, or can WB go with less than that for the member count?
That depends on how competent the creative team is.
I think that Wonder Woman is the only character who you absolutely need on the team besides Batman and Superman, but her story alone is so convoluted that I don't see it fitting into a story about Darkseid.
In my mind, the only things you can do is just have her show up without explaining anything about her, change her origin to something more convenient, or somehow tie the New Gods up with the Greek Gods to justify WW's presence there and make her mythological background more consistent with the rest of the story.
Stepping back from the story reasons as to why Supes is handcuffed, the thing is just a horrible, boring poster.
It really takes away a lot of what I liked about the teaser trailer. One thing that Superman has over just about every other superhero is the feeling of 'grandness'. There's nothing grand about a dude walking in a hallway.
Plus the image really doesn't do much for the costume. I guess they succeeded in making it look alien and creepy, but again, that doesn't scream Supes to me.
Flash is easy since he doesn't even have a tragic event in his past to explain his motives, much less a complex mythology. All you need to do is say that a scientist got hit by lightning, and that's pretty much The Flash.
I wouldn't bet on Green Lantern after the Ryan Reynolds film, though.
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Well, this is definitely going to be a trainwreck.
Do they seriously think Joe Moviegoer is gonna say Oh cool Darkseid!
They're going to avengers because of four damn movies worth of hype leading into it. Justice league will he lucky to have a somewhat well received superman movie that's two years old at that point.
Though wasn't Darkseid pretty much a given? What are the other big JL threats they could go with?
I feel like a good darsied needs a lot of build up because he acts more like an infection in our world than a "pop out of a portal and punch superman" villain.
Also I think it's humorous the jl will be the more derivative of the two to the general movie going public for using a "thanos clone" as the bad guy
Which makes me wonder if a World's Finest movie with just Supes and Bats might not be a better idea than a full-fledged Justice League movie, if only because the degree of difficulty is lower.
Well, they could homage the first origin of the Justice League and use Starro.
Or Vandal Savage, or Despero, or Ra's al Ghul, or Ares, or Lex Luthor... Heck, rip off Seven Soldiers and use the Sheeda.
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The poster seems to be a blury screen grab from the extended comic con footage. Ehhh
Welp.
Brainiac, the Lord of Time, Starro, Vandal Savage, the Injustice League, Injustice Gang, Crime Syndicate of Amerika etc. Going with Darkseid is extremely foolish considering Avengers is using a similar villain in Thanos. They need to make Justice League unique, having villains (especially right away) that the Avengers are fighting is only going to make the comparisons more noticeable. Something WB/DCE don't need since Marvel's already kicking their ass with their movie super-hero division for a few years now.
It is a better idea then a Justice League movie. They need to walk before they can run.
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Lex Luthor and the Joker alone would be a threat that I think audiences would enjoy watching; toss in Circe, Sinestro, that one evil martian who's name I can't remember (the one that' s immune to fire) and one of Flash's villains for comic relief.
Actually, you know what, forget the Justice League; can I get a Legion of Doom movie?
And man do I hate the Superman poster. It's so boring. "You will believe a man can walk down a hallway" just isn't that great of a tagline. Plus it kinda looks like he's covering his junk.
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They can be. Nolan does it well. All they need is to get people who can direct and write ensemble casts successfully. Darkseid traditionally won't work alone, either. He's got numerous high profile generals and troops to do his bidding. He isn't going to Earth with just the parademons...or at least he shouldn't be.
"We're probably never going to get to make another one of these, so we're going to use every villain we can think of."
Granted, they had to change things (taking typically solo villains and grouping them into various gangs, changing the Blank's identity entirely, etc.).
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If he was acting like Batman he'd have never been successfully arrested in the first place.
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I think that's why I liked Iron Man so much, both as an origin and a movie. The way Tony handles the media and even the air force trying to shoot him down is never really heavy on any disillusionment or sad stuff, it's just a misunderstanding, take it away Phil Collins.
He is above everyone else; he is Superman.
What is the point? There can't be some sort of trial of Superman bullshit because no one is going to pay to see people discuss. Jesus Christ. Show; don't tell. It's Intro to Film 101 FFS. There is nothing of value that comes with seeing Superman avail himself to be chained by man. If he wants to convince people he is their protector, that he is to be trusted, it can only be measured in deeds—not words. So what is the point? All I see in this image is every bullshit "Superman is too powerful. Superman isn't relatable. Superman is too super" complaint made by lazy writers and people who seem to fundamentally miss the whole point of Superman. I don't want him in the real world. As soon as Superman comes to exist in this world—a solar-powered alien who looks like a Midwestern farm boy and who can fly, juggle skyscrapers, and manipulate energy from his orifices—everything "rational" and "realistic" ceases to be on the table.
A team of Navy SEALs isn't going to bring him in, and I don't want to see him even bother resisting them. He wouldn't, because he knows better. And he can instantly remove himself from the scene to do good literally anywhere in the world. "Sorry your ambush didn't work. I decided to leave your men be and just stopped a tsunami from wiping out Hawaii instead."
Fuck this noise. This poster is the single image embodiment of every fucking thing I hate about modern comics.
That depends on how "real" the movie will be. It's not impossible for the military to capture Superman with the right advanced technology and kryptonite. Another factor may be that Superman might want to be captured with the alternative being worse
I figure that they're just going to copy the New 52's relaunch as best as they can, since it provides a clear blueprint for getting the team together and introducing the villain without requiring a ton of backstory.
They're still going to need to go to great lengths to get the average viewer up to speed on who all these characters are and why we should care about them, though, and I think that that's just too much of a burden for any film to bear.
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Is seven a sacred number for Justice League, or can WB go with less than that for the member count?
Especially when they don't have any heavy hitter directors in the running to execute the movie. Marvel was smart enough to hand the reins over the Joss Whedon. Who's WB going to give Justice League to?
That depends on how competent the creative team is.
Trinity + flash and maybe gl showing up to warn them of the impending doom? Only need 2 character origins there
In my mind, the only things you can do is just have her show up without explaining anything about her, change her origin to something more convenient, or somehow tie the New Gods up with the Greek Gods to justify WW's presence there and make her mythological background more consistent with the rest of the story.
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It really takes away a lot of what I liked about the teaser trailer. One thing that Superman has over just about every other superhero is the feeling of 'grandness'. There's nothing grand about a dude walking in a hallway.
Plus the image really doesn't do much for the costume. I guess they succeeded in making it look alien and creepy, but again, that doesn't scream Supes to me.
Now Batman in handcuffs, that could be exciting.
It just occured to me, WB might not want the JL to be 6 people (or exactly be 6 people) because the Avengers had six people.
Green Lantern is a safe bet in the roster (cause Darkseid is an alien). Flash too - IMHO he's as iconic as the rest of them.
I wouldn't bet on Green Lantern after the Ryan Reynolds film, though.
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