WearingglassesOf the friendly neighborhood varietyRegistered Userregular
Green Lantern isn't that horrible enough that his appearance on the Justice League is a negative, is it? At least it established the existence of the Corps, which gives WB proper background for Green Lantern, as well as an option to use another guy (Kyle... or Guy... or John) if they don't want Ryan Reynolds back.
Flash is easy since he doesn't even have a tragic event in his past to explain his motives, much less a complex mythology. All you need to do is say that a scientist got hit by lightning, and that's pretty much The Flash.
I wouldn't bet on Green Lantern after the Ryan Reynolds film, though.
On a side-note, let's hope they don't go with the Geoff Johns alterations to the Flash origin. I hate the whole "dad accused of killing mom" angle. Of all of them, it said something about the Flash that he was the one guy that did good simply because he liked doing good. He didn't need any defining moment for why he did what he did.
Flash is easy since he doesn't even have a tragic event in his past to explain his motives, much less a complex mythology. All you need to do is say that a scientist got hit by lightning, and that's pretty much The Flash.
I wouldn't bet on Green Lantern after the Ryan Reynolds film, though.
On a side-note, let's hope they don't go with the Geoff Johns alterations to the Flash origin. I hate the whole "dad accused of killing mom" angle. Of all of them, it said something about the Flash that he was the one guy that did good simply because he liked doing good. He didn't need any defining moment for why he did what he did.
Superman doesn't have a motivation in any defining moment or traumatic past. He's basically heroic because the Kents raised him right.
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Flash is easy since he doesn't even have a tragic event in his past to explain his motives, much less a complex mythology. All you need to do is say that a scientist got hit by lightning, and that's pretty much The Flash.
I wouldn't bet on Green Lantern after the Ryan Reynolds film, though.
On a side-note, let's hope they don't go with the Geoff Johns alterations to the Flash origin. I hate the whole "dad accused of killing mom" angle. Of all of them, it said something about the Flash that he was the one guy that did good simply because he liked doing good. He didn't need any defining moment for why he did what he did.
Superman doesn't have a motivation in any defining moment or traumatic past. He's basically heroic because the Kents raised him right.
I don't know, that whole "home planet destroyed, one of the last survivors of his species" deal probably weighs on him a bit.
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WearingglassesOf the friendly neighborhood varietyRegistered Userregular
Wonder Woman is going to be the hard part. It'd be nice if they nail her personality / story / everything perfectly, though. Even make her first scene a major establishing character moment or something.
Flash is easy since he doesn't even have a tragic event in his past to explain his motives, much less a complex mythology. All you need to do is say that a scientist got hit by lightning, and that's pretty much The Flash.
I wouldn't bet on Green Lantern after the Ryan Reynolds film, though.
On a side-note, let's hope they don't go with the Geoff Johns alterations to the Flash origin. I hate the whole "dad accused of killing mom" angle. Of all of them, it said something about the Flash that he was the one guy that did good simply because he liked doing good. He didn't need any defining moment for why he did what he did.
That reminds me of a great moment from Marvel Adventures: The Avengers.
Janet Van Dyne spotlight issue, the other Avengers are meeting with her dad to discuss her history. He gives a little "bright girl, lot of heart" and then starts on "Her mother..."
And Storm finishes his sentence with "Was killed? What a tragedy. I can see now why she fights crime"
Vernon Van Dyne just looks at her and goes "What? No. She's playing tennis right now. Jan just wanted to help people."
I dunno, a good Justice League move could do for Green Lantern what Avengers did for the Hulk.
Norton's Hulk wasn't a disaster on the scale of Green Lantern, and if there were any problems with that film it wasn't with the handling of the character.
Plus, everyone already knew who the Hulk was, so even if they didn't like Norton's Hulk they still had a positive impression of him.
Flash is easy since he doesn't even have a tragic event in his past to explain his motives, much less a complex mythology. All you need to do is say that a scientist got hit by lightning, and that's pretty much The Flash.
I wouldn't bet on Green Lantern after the Ryan Reynolds film, though.
On a side-note, let's hope they don't go with the Geoff Johns alterations to the Flash origin. I hate the whole "dad accused of killing mom" angle. Of all of them, it said something about the Flash that he was the one guy that did good simply because he liked doing good. He didn't need any defining moment for why he did what he did.
Superman doesn't have a motivation in any defining moment or traumatic past. He's basically heroic because the Kents raised him right.
I don't know, that whole "home planet destroyed, one of the last survivors of his species" deal probably weighs on him a bit.
That could just as easily have made him a villain.
Woah, how did this get missed? Jamie Foxx confirmed he's playing Electro.
"Electro is a great character. I met with the director, Mark Webb, I met with Andrew Garfield, and we talked... I think Electro will be an exciting character to play because he's a... genius electrician-type person, and he gets the short end of the stick from the whole world, and the next thing you know he turns it on."
Turns out Electro will also be one Peter's adopted fathers cause he'll probably be an old close friend of Uncle Ben and taught Peter how to make light up web shooters. Maybe.
Electro is a genius electrician? I thought he was just one of those dudes who got into an accident and somehow ended up with powers.
I wouldn't say genius, but in Electro's origin story, he was an electrical engineer who was repairing a line when he was zapped by lightning or something giving him powers. The electrical engineers I know are fairly smart.
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AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
My dad's an electrical engineer.
.... Let's just say that the potential exists for Electro to not be smart and be an electrical engineer.
Green Lantern isn't that horrible enough that his appearance on the Justice League is a negative, is it? At least it established the existence of the Corps, which gives WB proper background for Green Lantern, as well as an option to use another guy (Kyle... or Guy... or John) if they don't want Ryan Reynolds back.
It'll effect Justice League. They can't avoid it whether they keep Hal or replace him, putting a Green Lantern on the team is going to draw attention to that movie. The only way to neutralize this would be making a financially and critically successful sequel or rebooted GL big budget movie and that's not happening any time soon.
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So the Justice League film is going to have an all white cast right?
Maybe John Stewart GL or Cyborg might be a nice idea...
So the Justice League film is going to have an all white cast right?
Unless Wonder Woman is played by a Mediterranean actress, yes.
Maybe John Stewart GL or Cyborg might be a nice idea...
I'd like Stewart to get his shot and he's already connected to the team with the Timm-verse. Though I'd be worried about how they're manage to screw up his character in the movie.
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Guys if ever there's gonna be a non-white GL in Justice League it's gonna be Baz
which
I... don't hate Baz. He should ditch the gun (which we haven't even seen him use yet I think?) and the mask, but other than that I think he is pretty cool.
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AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
regardless of his comic portrayal
there is no way they'll be able to use him well on the big screen
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cyborg there. His current origin would be very easy to work into a Darkseid story, and he adds some variety to a roster that would otherwise mostly just be dudes in spandex with symbols on their chests.
I'd like Stewart to get his shot and he's already connected to the team with the Timm-verse. Though I'd be worried about how they're manage to screw up his character in the movie.
He's a well-educated, professional architect and a former Marine. He also happens to be African-American. So, yeah. They can fuck it up so badly.
Millions of kids knew John Stewart as the Green Lantern because of Justice League, but because Geoff Johns has a hard-on for Hal Jordan and everyone wanted synergy with comics way fewer people still don't read I'm sure many of them for a second thought, "That's not Green Lantern." But even if Johns and DC didn't love Jordan the idea of a black man starring in a $150M summer tentpole who isn't Will Smith (who already did a shitty superhero movie where all the ads emphasized he was basically an irresponsible, loser Superman—of course he was black) will never happen in this century. Someone suggested as a joke Donald Glover as Spider-Man and some people instantly went batshit racist.
I tweeted the other day that because I'm certain that she's "too old," the CW should at least cast Aisha Tyler as Hippolyta, but I also know that I'll be elected Pope before that ever happens—let alone a person of color being cast as Wonder Woman or another major superhero.
Basically I'm saying comics fans suck, Hollywood sucks, and they were made for each other.
DC is absolutely horrible with synergy. You'd think that they would have put more of a spotlight on John in the comics after JLU, but nnnnope. If they were smart, he'd be the Green Lantern for the DCU by now.
I'd like Stewart to get his shot and he's already connected to the team with the Timm-verse. Though I'd be worried about how they're manage to screw up his character in the movie.
He's a well-educated, professional architect and a former Marine. He also happens to be African-American. So, yeah. They can fuck it up so badly.
See, that's the sort of thing that boggles my mind. John Stewart has a hell of a background and seems like someone that would be easy enough for a respectable actor to do justice to. And yet for some reason the odds of him being done properly, if at all, are terrible.
John Stewart seems more potentially interesting to me than Superman or Flash, for that matter. And yet...
Electro is a genius electrician? I thought he was just one of those dudes who got into an accident and somehow ended up with powers.
I wouldn't say genius, but in Electro's origin story, he was an electrical engineer who was repairing a line when he was zapped by lightning or something giving him powers. The electrical engineers I know are fairly smart.
He's described as being the best there is in tue comics. He demanded for a bonus to save a man's life in the same page though so he wasn't exactly being downtrodden by the world.
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I'd actually be 100% cool with Simon Baz being the new hot shit Green Lantern.
I could never really get behind John Stewart... i'm just not that into the who military man angle.
The military angle is a new addition they added on in the Justice League cartoon, then Johns bought it over when he took over the GL comics. Before that he was an architect IIRC.
I'd actually be 100% cool with Simon Baz being the new hot shit Green Lantern.
I could never really get behind John Stewart... i'm just not that into the who military man angle.
The military angle is a new addition they added on in the Justice League cartoon, then Johns bought it over when he took over the GL comics. Before that he was an architect IIRC.
Do you have any recommendations for John Stewart stories?
I'd actually be 100% cool with Simon Baz being the new hot shit Green Lantern.
I could never really get behind John Stewart... i'm just not that into the who military man angle.
The military angle is a new addition they added on in the Justice League cartoon, then Johns bought it over when he took over the GL comics. Before that he was an architect IIRC.
Do you have any recommendations for John Stewart stories?
The only ones I read were the appearances in Kyle Rayner's run. I recommend the Grayven story line where he was leading the Darkstars. #47-50, I think. He was Kyle's mentor for a while.
I'd actually be 100% cool with Simon Baz being the new hot shit Green Lantern.
I could never really get behind John Stewart... i'm just not that into the who military man angle.
I didn't even really think about his military background until that issue last year that basically cribbed Sharkman One (I would say Black Hawk Down, but Sharkman One was a novel written by a former Marine about Marines in a fictionalized hostage rescue in Somalia similar to both BHD and other events). I actually had to stop and recollect what branch he served in. My first thought of Stewart pre-GL is him being an architect and how it related to his constructs. Of course another conflict in a Justice League movie is that Stewart, who as I recall is older, wiser, more experienced in life, and also served as a combat leader would serve as the natural team leader. But not when your movie stars Batman and Superman.
Unfortunately, my thought on Baz is based almost entirely on the cover of that #0 issue: A black Muslim with arm tats, a gun, an energy-construct ski mask coming at the viewer. I know there's more to it, but that's because I availed myself to learn some of the nuances. I do not have any faith in the viewing public to bother doing the same.
As much grief as I give about comics fans being racist and sexist, Hollywood is magnitudes worse.
I'd actually be 100% cool with Simon Baz being the new hot shit Green Lantern.
I could never really get behind John Stewart... i'm just not that into the who military man angle.
The military angle is a new addition they added on in the Justice League cartoon, then Johns bought it over when he took over the GL comics. Before that he was an architect IIRC.
Do you have any recommendations for John Stewart stories?
The only ones I read were the appearances in Kyle Rayner's run. I recommend the Grayven story line where he was leading the Darkstars. #47-50, I think. He was Kyle's mentor for a while.
Issues #70-75. 48-50 was Emerald Twilight. John had a number of good moments throughout Green Lantern Volume 3. Gerard Jones, Ron Marz, and Judd Winick all wrote John in a pretty consistent voice.
Stewart only got boring and a reputation for being "stoic" after Geoff Johns got ahold of him. I guess maybe the cartoon helped with that.
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On a side-note, let's hope they don't go with the Geoff Johns alterations to the Flash origin. I hate the whole "dad accused of killing mom" angle. Of all of them, it said something about the Flash that he was the one guy that did good simply because he liked doing good. He didn't need any defining moment for why he did what he did.
Superman doesn't have a motivation in any defining moment or traumatic past. He's basically heroic because the Kents raised him right.
I don't know, that whole "home planet destroyed, one of the last survivors of his species" deal probably weighs on him a bit.
What're the odds of that?
That reminds me of a great moment from Marvel Adventures: The Avengers.
Janet Van Dyne spotlight issue, the other Avengers are meeting with her dad to discuss her history. He gives a little "bright girl, lot of heart" and then starts on "Her mother..."
And Storm finishes his sentence with "Was killed? What a tragedy. I can see now why she fights crime"
Vernon Van Dyne just looks at her and goes "What? No. She's playing tennis right now. Jan just wanted to help people."
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Norton's Hulk wasn't a disaster on the scale of Green Lantern, and if there were any problems with that film it wasn't with the handling of the character.
Plus, everyone already knew who the Hulk was, so even if they didn't like Norton's Hulk they still had a positive impression of him.
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That could just as easily have made him a villain.
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I wouldn't say genius, but in Electro's origin story, he was an electrical engineer who was repairing a line when he was zapped by lightning or something giving him powers. The electrical engineers I know are fairly smart.
.... Let's just say that the potential exists for Electro to not be smart and be an electrical engineer.
It'll effect Justice League. They can't avoid it whether they keep Hal or replace him, putting a Green Lantern on the team is going to draw attention to that movie. The only way to neutralize this would be making a financially and critically successful sequel or rebooted GL big budget movie and that's not happening any time soon.
Maybe John Stewart GL or Cyborg might be a nice idea...
Unless Wonder Woman is played by a Mediterranean actress, yes.
I'd like Stewart to get his shot and he's already connected to the team with the Timm-verse. Though I'd be worried about how they're manage to screw up his character in the movie.
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there is no way they'll be able to use him well on the big screen
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He's a well-educated, professional architect and a former Marine. He also happens to be African-American. So, yeah. They can fuck it up so badly.
Millions of kids knew John Stewart as the Green Lantern because of Justice League, but because Geoff Johns has a hard-on for Hal Jordan and everyone wanted synergy with comics way fewer people still don't read I'm sure many of them for a second thought, "That's not Green Lantern." But even if Johns and DC didn't love Jordan the idea of a black man starring in a $150M summer tentpole who isn't Will Smith (who already did a shitty superhero movie where all the ads emphasized he was basically an irresponsible, loser Superman—of course he was black) will never happen in this century. Someone suggested as a joke Donald Glover as Spider-Man and some people instantly went batshit racist.
I tweeted the other day that because I'm certain that she's "too old," the CW should at least cast Aisha Tyler as Hippolyta, but I also know that I'll be elected Pope before that ever happens—let alone a person of color being cast as Wonder Woman or another major superhero.
Basically I'm saying comics fans suck, Hollywood sucks, and they were made for each other.
See, that's the sort of thing that boggles my mind. John Stewart has a hell of a background and seems like someone that would be easy enough for a respectable actor to do justice to. And yet for some reason the odds of him being done properly, if at all, are terrible.
John Stewart seems more potentially interesting to me than Superman or Flash, for that matter. And yet...
I could never really get behind John Stewart... i'm just not that into the who military man angle.
He's described as being the best there is in tue comics. He demanded for a bonus to save a man's life in the same page though so he wasn't exactly being downtrodden by the world.
The military angle is a new addition they added on in the Justice League cartoon, then Johns bought it over when he took over the GL comics. Before that he was an architect IIRC.
Do you have any recommendations for John Stewart stories?
The only ones I read were the appearances in Kyle Rayner's run. I recommend the Grayven story line where he was leading the Darkstars. #47-50, I think. He was Kyle's mentor for a while.
I didn't even really think about his military background until that issue last year that basically cribbed Sharkman One (I would say Black Hawk Down, but Sharkman One was a novel written by a former Marine about Marines in a fictionalized hostage rescue in Somalia similar to both BHD and other events). I actually had to stop and recollect what branch he served in. My first thought of Stewart pre-GL is him being an architect and how it related to his constructs. Of course another conflict in a Justice League movie is that Stewart, who as I recall is older, wiser, more experienced in life, and also served as a combat leader would serve as the natural team leader. But not when your movie stars Batman and Superman.
Unfortunately, my thought on Baz is based almost entirely on the cover of that #0 issue: A black Muslim with arm tats, a gun, an energy-construct ski mask coming at the viewer. I know there's more to it, but that's because I availed myself to learn some of the nuances. I do not have any faith in the viewing public to bother doing the same.
As much grief as I give about comics fans being racist and sexist, Hollywood is magnitudes worse.
Issues #70-75. 48-50 was Emerald Twilight. John had a number of good moments throughout Green Lantern Volume 3. Gerard Jones, Ron Marz, and Judd Winick all wrote John in a pretty consistent voice.
Stewart only got boring and a reputation for being "stoic" after Geoff Johns got ahold of him. I guess maybe the cartoon helped with that.
no!
I get to work from electrical prints every day and uh
yeah
just that based on a sample number of one, it's possible for there to be someone not too bright in there/possible for Electro to be thick
I was really hoping it would flounder around for awhile and the rights would revert back to Marvel :P