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[The Dark Knight Rises] IN 2 DAYS don't read the Ebert review
It has been eight years since Batman vanished into the night, turning, in that instant, from hero to fugitive. Assuming the blame for the death of D.A. Harvey Dent, the Dark Knight sacrificed everything for what he and Commissioner Gordon both hoped was the greater good. For a time the lie worked, as criminal activity in Gotham City was crushed under the weight of the anti-crime Dent Act. But everything will change with the arrival of a cunning cat burglar with a mysterious agenda. Far more dangerous, however, is the emergence of Bane, a masked terrorist whose ruthless plans for Gotham drive Bruce out of his self-imposed exile.
but in retrospect the plot doesn't make a lick of fucking sense
It's not that it doesn't make sense per say, but most of the major plot points require coincidences so contrived and unbelievable it kinda takes you out of the movie in subsequent viewings.
This will the first movie I see in the theaters since The Hangover.
IMAX will probably be too expensive, though. Luckily, I work near a drive-in theater. Not only is it less expensive, but you also get a double feature.
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AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
i'll be watching it at my two dollar theatre a month after it comes out
but in retrospect the plot doesn't make a lick of fucking sense
It's not that it doesn't make sense per say, but most of the major plot points require coincidences so contrived and unbelievable it kinda takes you out of the movie in subsequent viewings.
yeah
i mean everyone always has perfect knowledge of what's going on and what everyone else is planning, and has prepared a perfect counterplan to it
except for when they don't, because they're currently the victim of someone else's perfect counterplan
It basically bets all its money on the hope that the characters and action and such will be compelling enough that you don't ask too many questions about what you're seeing
and in its defense, that totally works the first few times you see it
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edited June 2012
For those not prone to tl;dring, the Remedial Batmanology transcript-style reviews of every live action Batman film are pretty great (if you're wondering where the 1966 film is, they do it last). They also make a hilariously unique case for B&R being the best 90s-era film.
but in retrospect the plot doesn't make a lick of fucking sense
It's not that it doesn't make sense per say, but most of the major plot points require coincidences so contrived and unbelievable it kinda takes you out of the movie in subsequent viewings.
i mean everyone always has perfect knowledge of what's going on and what everyone else is planning, and has prepared a perfect counterplan to it
except for when they don't, because they're currently the victim of someone else's perfect counterplan
Really? That only really seems to apply to the Joker, and I just figured it's cause he has a thousand potential directions for the plan to go.
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Oh brilliant
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TrippyJingMoses supposes his toeses are roses.But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered Userregular
but in retrospect the plot doesn't make a lick of fucking sense
It's not that it doesn't make sense per say, but most of the major plot points require coincidences so contrived and unbelievable it kinda takes you out of the movie in subsequent viewings.
i mean everyone always has perfect knowledge of what's going on and what everyone else is planning, and has prepared a perfect counterplan to it
except for when they don't, because they're currently the victim of someone else's perfect counterplan
Really? That only really seems to apply to the Joker, and I just figured it's cause he has a thousand potential directions for the plan to go.
Yeah, I kind of figured everybody was just trying to react to what the Joker was doing, or what they thought he was gonna do.
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HunterChemist with a heart of AuRegistered Userregular
My Dark Knight would be rising if I got to be next to Anne Hathaway in that suit too.
but in retrospect the plot doesn't make a lick of fucking sense
It's not that it doesn't make sense per say, but most of the major plot points require coincidences so contrived and unbelievable it kinda takes you out of the movie in subsequent viewings.
i mean everyone always has perfect knowledge of what's going on and what everyone else is planning, and has prepared a perfect counterplan to it
except for when they don't, because they're currently the victim of someone else's perfect counterplan
Really? That only really seems to apply to the Joker, and I just figured it's cause he has a thousand potential directions for the plan to go.
it's mostly the joker but other characters occasionally do it too
like Jim Gordon faking his death, and then evidently his plan was to be Harvey's driver and catch the Joker?
But it's not like there's anything special about Jim Gordon in that capacity, there's never any reason given that another cop couldn't have done the exact same thing
so Gordon takes a bullet, which is something that no one could have predicted would happen
and then I guess he was unharmed by it but decided to take the opportunity to fake his death, because "he couldn't risk his family being targeted" (even though that had never been presented as an actual risk before then. The Joker calls Rachel as a target at the same event where Gordon gets "killed," and hadn't been targeting prominent figures' loved ones before that)
and then he drives Harvey's prison van, I guess to protect him from any attacks the Joker might attempt, even though nothing is ever said that suggests that he's like, a super awesome driver or gunfighter or something.
And then I guess the plan was that the Joker would probably attack, and Batman would probably show up to stop him, and Gordon could take an opportunity at some point to catch the Joker off-guard
and it's such a "fuck yeah" moment when you realize that Gordon's alive that you don't think about how he didn't really do anything special other than fake his death, and a non-faked-death cop could have acted in exactly the same way
And then, in spite of Gordon's plan not making a whole lot of sense and in spite of it being completely out of left field
the Joker had prepared for it completely and was banking on Gordon locking him up in the MCU
For those not prone to tl;dring, the Remedial Batmanology transcript-style reviews of every live action Batman film are pretty great (if you're wondering where the 1966 film is, they do it last). They also make a hilariously unique case for B&R being the best 90s-era film.
This makes me want to go home and watch B&R on Netflix right away.
I hated it along with everyone else when it first came out but now it seems like something I'd totally dig.
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Vargas PrimeKing of NothingJust a ShowRegistered Userregular
and in its defense, that totally works the first few times you see it
Not really. My friend and I were ripping it apart at the theater right after seeing it for the first time.
I think that's my biggest problem with the movie. Everyone made it out to be the greatest thing ever, and I saw it and thought it was a pretty underwhelming movie with a couple of really good performances.
For those not prone to tl;dring, the Remedial Batmanology transcript-style reviews of every live action Batman film are pretty great (if you're wondering where the 1966 film is, they do it last). They also make a hilariously unique case for B&R being the best 90s-era film.
This makes me want to go home and watch B&R on Netflix right away.
I hated it along with everyone else when it first came out but now it seems like something I'd totally dig.
When you go back to watch it with their new perspective in mind, it's crazy how quickly it becomes a "legitimate hoot."
and in its defense, that totally works the first few times you see it
Not really. My friend and I were ripping it apart at the theater right after seeing it for the first time.
I think that's my biggest problem with the movie. Everyone made it out to be the greatest thing ever, and I saw it and thought it was a pretty underwhelming movie with a couple of really good performances.
lemme rephrase
it totally worked for most people who saw it
obviously there was a percentage of people who thought it was nothing special as soon as it came out
but it's absurd performance at the box office suggests that that was a pretty tiny minority
but in retrospect the plot doesn't make a lick of fucking sense
It's not that it doesn't make sense per say, but most of the major plot points require coincidences so contrived and unbelievable it kinda takes you out of the movie in subsequent viewings.
i mean everyone always has perfect knowledge of what's going on and what everyone else is planning, and has prepared a perfect counterplan to it
except for when they don't, because they're currently the victim of someone else's perfect counterplan
Really? That only really seems to apply to the Joker, and I just figured it's cause he has a thousand potential directions for the plan to go.
it's mostly the joker but other characters occasionally do it too
like Jim Gordon faking his death, and then evidently his plan was to be Harvey's driver and catch the Joker?
But it's not like there's anything special about Jim Gordon in that capacity, there's never any reason given that another cop couldn't have done the exact same thing
so Gordon takes a bullet, which is something that no one could have predicted would happen
and then I guess he was unharmed by it but decided to take the opportunity to fake his death, because "he couldn't risk his family being targeted" (even though that had never been presented as an actual risk before then. The Joker calls Rachel as a target at the same event where Gordon gets "killed," and hadn't been targeting prominent figures' loved ones before that)
and then he drives Harvey's prison van, I guess to protect him from any attacks the Joker might attempt, even though nothing is ever said that suggests that he's like, a super awesome driver or gunfighter or something.
And then I guess the plan was that the Joker would probably attack, and Batman would probably show up to stop him, and Gordon could take an opportunity at some point to catch the Joker off-guard
and it's such a "fuck yeah" moment when you realize that Gordon's alive that you don't think about how he didn't really do anything special other than fake his death, and a non-faked-death cop could have acted in exactly the same way
And then, in spite of Gordon's plan not making a whole lot of sense and in spite of it being completely out of left field
the Joker had prepared for it completely and was banking on Gordon locking him up in the MCU
hmm, yeah I had never thought about what gordon was up to driving that van before, I guess it's quite strange. with regards to joker he just wanted to be locked up with lau, I don't think him realising gordon was alive was a special provision of that. Of course what he really wanted in that scene was for Batman to kill him
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i still really like that movie
but in retrospect the plot doesn't make a lick of fucking sense
http://www.audioentropy.com/
It's not that it doesn't make sense per say, but most of the major plot points require coincidences so contrived and unbelievable it kinda takes you out of the movie in subsequent viewings.
I will be doing exactly this
what are you going to do about it cactaur
IMAX will probably be too expensive, though. Luckily, I work near a drive-in theater. Not only is it less expensive, but you also get a double feature.
wakka wakka
yeah
i mean everyone always has perfect knowledge of what's going on and what everyone else is planning, and has prepared a perfect counterplan to it
except for when they don't, because they're currently the victim of someone else's perfect counterplan
It basically bets all its money on the hope that the characters and action and such will be compelling enough that you don't ask too many questions about what you're seeing
and in its defense, that totally works the first few times you see it
http://www.audioentropy.com/
BB starts at 6:30, DKR at midnight
now I wish I hadn't just watched TDK
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Sneak up behind you and flick your ear.
my one fucking weakness
midnight showing in IMAX is already sold out
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Really? That only really seems to apply to the Joker, and I just figured it's cause he has a thousand potential directions for the plan to go.
Yeah, I kind of figured everybody was just trying to react to what the Joker was doing, or what they thought he was gonna do.
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it's mostly the joker but other characters occasionally do it too
But it's not like there's anything special about Jim Gordon in that capacity, there's never any reason given that another cop couldn't have done the exact same thing
so Gordon takes a bullet, which is something that no one could have predicted would happen
and then I guess he was unharmed by it but decided to take the opportunity to fake his death, because "he couldn't risk his family being targeted" (even though that had never been presented as an actual risk before then. The Joker calls Rachel as a target at the same event where Gordon gets "killed," and hadn't been targeting prominent figures' loved ones before that)
and then he drives Harvey's prison van, I guess to protect him from any attacks the Joker might attempt, even though nothing is ever said that suggests that he's like, a super awesome driver or gunfighter or something.
And then I guess the plan was that the Joker would probably attack, and Batman would probably show up to stop him, and Gordon could take an opportunity at some point to catch the Joker off-guard
and it's such a "fuck yeah" moment when you realize that Gordon's alive that you don't think about how he didn't really do anything special other than fake his death, and a non-faked-death cop could have acted in exactly the same way
And then, in spite of Gordon's plan not making a whole lot of sense and in spite of it being completely out of left field
the Joker had prepared for it completely and was banking on Gordon locking him up in the MCU
http://www.audioentropy.com/
This makes me want to go home and watch B&R on Netflix right away.
I hated it along with everyone else when it first came out but now it seems like something I'd totally dig.
Not really. My friend and I were ripping it apart at the theater right after seeing it for the first time.
I think that's my biggest problem with the movie. Everyone made it out to be the greatest thing ever, and I saw it and thought it was a pretty underwhelming movie with a couple of really good performances.
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which makes sense i guess since it's smack dab in the middle of a huge mall in pasadena
but still
so I guess this is my only post in the thread
I've only seen the first trailer, and I'm happy about that.
And the only news I've allowed myself to read about this is the official runtime news. Almost 3 hours, dang.
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When you go back to watch it with their new perspective in mind, it's crazy how quickly it becomes a "legitimate hoot."
Dangit
lemme rephrase
it totally worked for most people who saw it
obviously there was a percentage of people who thought it was nothing special as soon as it came out
but it's absurd performance at the box office suggests that that was a pretty tiny minority
http://www.audioentropy.com/
i don't even care i still love that movie
yeah i still think it's an awesome movie
because really the draw wasn't ever the plot in the first place
it was heath ledger and aaron ekhart and christian bale
http://www.audioentropy.com/
What doesn't make sense about it? Seemed pretty straight forward to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq5O4pKoA_g&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY0FVcybMVw&feature=plcp