Pretty sure basically any modern card(7000amd/600nvidia) can run 3displays at least
i'm running dual ref7970s, which have 2miniDP, 1HDMI and 1DVI port on 'em. 3x1 portrait in eyefinity and the landscape display off to the left for whatever doesn't like playing nice with eyefinity.
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So before I click the buy button, does anyone have any tweaks to Houn's recommended parts list?
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Oh, definitely don't buy what I linked; at least not the MoBo. I'm a fan of Gigabyte, but I just grabbed that at random for a good reasonable price estimate. The 3570K is a great CPU, and overclockable, so it should last you some time. The ram is ram, but I'm running GSkill right now, and will vouch for it. The Mobo you should do some review look-ups, compare features, before you buy. The video card, too; I personally went with the MSI Twin Frozor card because it was rated a bit quieter than the EVGA, and does that cool "reverse-fan" thing when it powers on, in order to dislodge dust.
i like the twin frozr coolers and MSI has a pretty decent warranty on their stuff
for boards unless you're looking at hardcore OCing just figure out what features you need in terms of back panel connectivity/pcie slot configurations and such
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I have a pretty generic case.
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What do you all think of the Sabertooth? I think someone endorsed it where I could see it but I don't remember any details.
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i'm digging at calling an HPTX case a "gaming" case, since the main thing oversize motherboards like that have going is space for more than one physical processor which is great if you need some kind of crazy workstation but just a tad overkill for playing games
the only HPTX boards i can think of are LGA1366/2011, but you could probably drop a multisocket amd board in there as well.
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Well, newegg there sells HTPX boards, so I guess you could check those out. I guess if you wanted to build the ultimate minecraft server or something? :P
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So I just bought an ft03 case, which is pretty, but oh man is it impossible to work with. I'm 6'2 and built to scale and my sausage fingers are having a miserable time in there. It has built in standoffs, a first for me. Do I need to screw in a top screw into each standoff to avoid grounding issues, or can I leave a few unscrewed?
i'd screw through all the mount holes in your board, but more to increase rigidity in order to avoid accidentally damaging the board while installing components then due to grounding needs
The ft03 is a really nice little case but it definitely requires a bit of extra attention during assembly to get everything done
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i'd screw through all the mount holes in your board, but more to increase rigidity in order to avoid accidentally damaging the board while installing components then due to grounding needs
The ft03 is a really nice little case but it definitely requires a bit of extra attention during assembly to get everything done
Thanks. If it doesn't post I haven't decided if I'll try to take everything apart to troubleshoot or just put it in the closet and buy parts for a new computer at full atx.
the things that i found to be potential sticking points while assembling mine were mostly the fact that the sata ports are entirely inaccessible once you have GPU(s) in there so make sure you plug in and thread any sata cables your build will need first
If you are doing dual GPUs you'll almost certainly have to install the "lower" card before the one that slots nearest the CPU socket
if you're doing a tower style CPU cooler i'd recommend putting the mounting hardware on before GPUs and the tower itself after to give yourself more room to play with. Also if you're doing a tower cooler make sure to check clearance with the 120mm fan that's at an angle to blow over the socket area of the motherboard. it should be clear on most smaller coolers but i had to remove it to fit my d14 in
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i'd screw through all the mount holes in your board, but more to increase rigidity in order to avoid accidentally damaging the board while installing components then due to grounding needs
The ft03 is a really nice little case but it definitely requires a bit of extra attention during assembly to get everything done
Thanks. If it doesn't post I haven't decided if I'll try to take everything apart to troubleshoot or just put it in the closet and buy parts for a new computer at full atx.
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Yeah, well, I don't want to do this again for another 10 years, so a lot of board that I don't need is something I am fine with.
Um, having a protective heatsink over your entire board isn't going to future-proof it for 10 years. Nothing will. Ten years from now, you won't be able to drop in a new CPU, because the socket will have changed again. The 1155 CPUs will be dinosaurs, found for $10 on eBay.
I mean, if you have a good reason, yeah, get it, but never expect a PC to last 10 years while simultaneously keeping up with software trends, especially in gaming.
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I always replace my processor and my mobo at the same time, that isn't what I was talking about.
And this isn't a heat sink over the whole board, it is basically a plastic covering to channel the air flow, with two spots to insert optional 1" fans. The ports for vid cards et al also come with plastic dust covers. I don't think the plastic covering is what makes the board itself about $30 more than the gigabyte board you linked me to earlier.
And $30 price difference over the 5 or 6 year life of the product isn't something I am going to bat an eyelash at. I was being a bit hyperbolic about the 10 years. My current mobo is an ASUS P5QPL-AM, which hit the market somewhere in 2009, I think? I would like something that is not going to frustrate me in 3 or 4 years like the P5 is now. I can't even plug in cooling fans on this damned thing.
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Well, the G41 chipset on your current mobo isnt exactly great, mostly because its used mostly on mini-ATX boards which are going to limit you on video cards/RAM/fans etc. A full sized ATX board will last you a little longer. For instance, my P5Q Pro is going fairly strong and its a little older (I think I built it in 2008). Its nowhere near as powerful as my current computer, but I can still run everything I want to on it, just not with everything turned up all the way.
Personally, Id look for a feature rich AsRock board as theyre a little cheaper, have great features and should last you just as long. While AsRock is a relatively new company, I believe they used to be a part of Asus.
So, I might be in the market for a new PC soon and I’m thinking about building an HTPC. That means a low idle power consumption, but I’d also like it to be able to ramp up and play video games.
How doable is this, space-wise? Will I be breaking the bank if I want to do this?
Should I look at AMD’s APUs? Here's some of my backlog, so you can judge preformance requirements: Darksiders, War For Cybertron, Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine, Saints Row 3, Need For Speed Hot Pursuit.
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so this is a pretty general question, but curious if someone could answer. I'm in the process of building a computer and am debating between x79 or z77 motherboard. Generally speaking is z77 considered the way to go? Noticed most have been picking that for their builds.
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So, I might be in the market for a new PC soon and I’m thinking about building an HTPC. That means a low idle power consumption, but I’d also like it to be able to ramp up and play video games.
How doable is this, space-wise? Will I be breaking the bank if I want to do this?
Should I look at AMD’s APUs? Here's some of my backlog, so you can judge preformance requirements: Darksiders, War For Cybertron, Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine, Saints Row 3, Need For Speed Hot Pursuit.
What dimensions are you looking at, and do you have a 720p TV or 1080p?
so this is a pretty general question, but curious if someone could answer. I'm in the process of building a computer and am debating between x79 or z77 motherboard. Generally speaking is z77 considered the way to go? Noticed most have been picking that for their builds.
At the moment, Ivy Bridge procs are only on Z77. X79 is for LGA2011 and Sandy Bridge-E, which is really only for people that want to pay a shitload of money for 6 cores, or want to overpay to get the same performance as a 2700K.
x79 boards use the 2011 socket which are mostly high end enthusiast builds or professional builds. Like, grossly unnecessary builds. If youre not doing professional work you'll be just fine with a z77 build. Plus, the z77 stuff will most likely have a longer lifespan since there are going to be more CPUs made using 1155 socket.
So how does this look for a preliminary parts list? I won't be clicking the Buy button until January at the earliest (though I don't know how likely this list is to change in the span of 3 months), so it's pretty tentative.
1. I doubt what kind of case I get makes all that much difference, and I love the P280 mostly for the sound-dampening features, wide-open layout, and fan filters (my room/house is extremely dust). It's $40 off right now, so should I just jump on the deal right now? I figure worst-case, I could put off spending the money on a PC overhaul and just move my current system into a swanky, high-airflow new case.
2. How are RAM speeds determined? I notice NewEgg sells up to like DDR3 2200, but those are referred to as "overclocked" speeds. I get the general impression that RAM speeds aren't all that important to gaming performance. I do intend to OC my CPU, but does that mean I'll have to OC my RAM as well? Would it be worthwhile investing in RAM with good heat-spreaders, if so?
3. I know that single-solution liquid cooling systems like the H100 and such are really popular (and relatively cheap) now, but will the Hyper 212 suffice for, say, a 3770K with a relatively mild OC -- say, to <4.5Ghz -- assuming overall airflow in the case is good?
EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention: I'll be carrying over my PC Power & Cooling 750W PSU, GTX 560 Ti, optical drive, and HDDs to the new build.
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So how does this look for a preliminary parts list? I won't be clicking the Buy button until January at the earliest (though I don't know how likely this list is to change in the span of 3 months), so it's pretty tentative.
1. I doubt what kind of case I get makes all that much difference, and I love the P280 mostly for the sound-dampening features, wide-open layout, and fan filters (my room/house is extremely dust). It's $40 off right now, so should I just jump on the deal right now? I figure worst-case, I could put off spending the money on a PC overhaul and just move my current system into a swanky, high-airflow new case.
2. How are RAM speeds determined? I notice NewEgg sells up to like DDR3 2200, but those are referred to as "overclocked" speeds. I get the general impression that RAM speeds aren't all that important to gaming performance. I do intend to OC my CPU, but does that mean I'll have to OC my RAM as well? Would it be worthwhile investing in RAM with good heat-spreaders, if so?
3. I know that single-solution liquid cooling systems like the H100 and such are really popular (and relatively cheap) now, but will the Hyper 212 suffice for, say, a 3770K with a relatively mild OC -- say, to <4.5Ghz -- assuming overall airflow in the case is good?
EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention: I'll be carrying over my PC Power & Cooling 750W PSU, GTX 560 Ti, optical drive, and HDDs to the new build.
The 280 looks like a nice case. Kind of the Antec version of the Corsair Obsidian 550D I'm getting. (or should that be the other way around?)
4.5 Ghz on an Ivy Bridge chip is going to need something a bit better at dispersing heat than a Hyper 212. Ivy Bridge tends not to OC quite as high as Sandy Bridge, and also runs a smidge hotter doing so, but the extra efficiency per clock cycle and the new features that come with the new chipsets more than make up for that.
On that note, you don't have a CPU in your buy list, or mention carrying one over.
I thought about amending the post to include the fact that I'm trying to maneuver my credit-card reward points to nab a 3770k. I know it's overkill, but the next-best Intel CPU (that I can afford with my points) is a 2700k, which some people in the thread have pointed out is last-gen architecture. I figure if I'm basically getting the CPU for free (using the rewards points) that I may as well get the best one possible.
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i think i can live with eyefinity quirks because dang do things look fantastic
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i'm running dual ref7970s, which have 2miniDP, 1HDMI and 1DVI port on 'em. 3x1 portrait in eyefinity and the landscape display off to the left for whatever doesn't like playing nice with eyefinity.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
for boards unless you're looking at hardcore OCing just figure out what features you need in terms of back panel connectivity/pcie slot configurations and such
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and yeah rosewill is newegg's in house brand
the only HPTX boards i can think of are LGA1366/2011, but you could probably drop a multisocket amd board in there as well.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
The ft03 is a really nice little case but it definitely requires a bit of extra attention during assembly to get everything done
Thanks. If it doesn't post I haven't decided if I'll try to take everything apart to troubleshoot or just put it in the closet and buy parts for a new computer at full atx.
If you are doing dual GPUs you'll almost certainly have to install the "lower" card before the one that slots nearest the CPU socket
if you're doing a tower style CPU cooler i'd recommend putting the mounting hardware on before GPUs and the tower itself after to give yourself more room to play with. Also if you're doing a tower cooler make sure to check clearance with the 120mm fan that's at an angle to blow over the socket area of the motherboard. it should be clear on most smaller coolers but i had to remove it to fit my d14 in
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131821&Tpk=Sabertooth Z77
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i feel like it costs more than maybe you need to be spending to get a good featureset though
I was gonna go make a suggestion but eesh there are so many boards with minor variations these days it's stupid.
Case: Corsair 500R (Black)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H-WB
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 2x8gb DDR3-1600 (CL10)
I just need a PSU and a CPU.
I was targeting the i5-3570k but I might just go with the i7-3770k at this point.
S'what I'm getting.
Anyway, should I buy case fans with the Corsair 600T - and if so, any recommendations? - or are the included fans good enough?
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Um, having a protective heatsink over your entire board isn't going to future-proof it for 10 years. Nothing will. Ten years from now, you won't be able to drop in a new CPU, because the socket will have changed again. The 1155 CPUs will be dinosaurs, found for $10 on eBay.
I mean, if you have a good reason, yeah, get it, but never expect a PC to last 10 years while simultaneously keeping up with software trends, especially in gaming.
And this isn't a heat sink over the whole board, it is basically a plastic covering to channel the air flow, with two spots to insert optional 1" fans. The ports for vid cards et al also come with plastic dust covers. I don't think the plastic covering is what makes the board itself about $30 more than the gigabyte board you linked me to earlier.
And $30 price difference over the 5 or 6 year life of the product isn't something I am going to bat an eyelash at. I was being a bit hyperbolic about the 10 years. My current mobo is an ASUS P5QPL-AM, which hit the market somewhere in 2009, I think? I would like something that is not going to frustrate me in 3 or 4 years like the P5 is now. I can't even plug in cooling fans on this damned thing.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Personally, Id look for a feature rich AsRock board as theyre a little cheaper, have great features and should last you just as long. While AsRock is a relatively new company, I believe they used to be a part of Asus.
How doable is this, space-wise? Will I be breaking the bank if I want to do this?
Should I look at AMD’s APUs? Here's some of my backlog, so you can judge preformance requirements: Darksiders, War For Cybertron, Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine, Saints Row 3, Need For Speed Hot Pursuit.
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What dimensions are you looking at, and do you have a 720p TV or 1080p?
At the moment, Ivy Bridge procs are only on Z77. X79 is for LGA2011 and Sandy Bridge-E, which is really only for people that want to pay a shitload of money for 6 cores, or want to overpay to get the same performance as a 2700K.
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- Antec P280 Case -- $100 ($40 off atm because it's on sale)
- ASUS Z77 Motherboard -- $150
- Crucial M4 128GB SSD -- $110 ($40 off atm)
- 8GB (2 x 4GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 1600 -- $40
- Hyper 212 Evo -- $31
1. I doubt what kind of case I get makes all that much difference, and I love the P280 mostly for the sound-dampening features, wide-open layout, and fan filters (my room/house is extremely dust). It's $40 off right now, so should I just jump on the deal right now? I figure worst-case, I could put off spending the money on a PC overhaul and just move my current system into a swanky, high-airflow new case.2. How are RAM speeds determined? I notice NewEgg sells up to like DDR3 2200, but those are referred to as "overclocked" speeds. I get the general impression that RAM speeds aren't all that important to gaming performance. I do intend to OC my CPU, but does that mean I'll have to OC my RAM as well? Would it be worthwhile investing in RAM with good heat-spreaders, if so?
3. I know that single-solution liquid cooling systems like the H100 and such are really popular (and relatively cheap) now, but will the Hyper 212 suffice for, say, a 3770K with a relatively mild OC -- say, to <4.5Ghz -- assuming overall airflow in the case is good?
EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention: I'll be carrying over my PC Power & Cooling 750W PSU, GTX 560 Ti, optical drive, and HDDs to the new build.
The 280 looks like a nice case. Kind of the Antec version of the Corsair Obsidian 550D I'm getting. (or should that be the other way around?)
RAM speeds? Get quality 1600 Mhz 1.5v stuff. Corsair, Kingston, G.Skill, Crucial, et. al.
4.5 Ghz on an Ivy Bridge chip is going to need something a bit better at dispersing heat than a Hyper 212. Ivy Bridge tends not to OC quite as high as Sandy Bridge, and also runs a smidge hotter doing so, but the extra efficiency per clock cycle and the new features that come with the new chipsets more than make up for that.
Hamurabi, the 3570K will run anything you throw at it, no worries. (says the guy with a 3770K sitting on his desk less than a foot away...)
I thought about amending the post to include the fact that I'm trying to maneuver my credit-card reward points to nab a 3770k. I know it's overkill, but the next-best Intel CPU (that I can afford with my points) is a 2700k, which some people in the thread have pointed out is last-gen architecture. I figure if I'm basically getting the CPU for free (using the rewards points) that I may as well get the best one possible.