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Need Camping Gear

CycloneRangerCycloneRanger Registered User regular
edited July 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
I need a few items for camping trips--likely on foot for the most part. I'd like to spend as little as possible while still getting something comfortable, functional, and durable. I'll be in Colorado, so the weather is highly variable and I need to be prepared.

1) Framed Pack--I've never shopped for one of these before and have no real idea what to look for (or where to look). I'm sort of drawing a blank on this one. My intuition tells me it'd be a bad idea to buy one of these things sight unseen--is that correct, and I really ought to try it on, or is it hopeless to try to get a feel for how one fits without actually using it on a hike?

2) Sleeping Bag--I need something that's functional without a tent (i.e. waterproof, or I'll need a bivy sack to put over it) and ideally fairly light. A friend has one of the US Army's modern bags (the Modular Sleep System; several bags you can nest if necessary); something like that would work well. Is there any other similar gear I should take a look at? And, what's the best option for getting such an item without spending an arm and a leg? I believe my friend got his from eBay--anywhere else I should be checking?

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  • DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    Going to recommend you buy and carry a Tube Tent. They're basically a tarp with a rope in them but they're dirt cheap and lightweight and will keep you and your stuff dry in a pinch.

    I'm sure others will come in with recommendations on pack and sleeping bag.

  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    It is a good idea to try on a pack at a store. Often times they can load it for you with weight to simulate a full pack. On the other hand I've found that most modern packs by good manufacturers, when purchased at the correct size, will adjust pretty well once you fiddle with them enough. Osprey and Gregory are two of the top pack manufacturers for general backpacking though other companies like Arc'teryx, Black Diamond, Mountain Hardwear and The North Face also make good packs.

    You won't find many waterproof sleeping bags because waterproof fabrics tend to trap in moisture to some extent, leaving you with a super clammy feeling. Bivy sacks suffer from this same problem and you'll find the constant complaint of a bivy sack is that they will accumulate a lot of condensation. I believe you can get one of the surplus US army bivies on ebay for a song but it's unlikely to be all that great in terms of functionality.

    If you're looking to save money on a sleeping bag I would look for a synthetic fill versus down, especially if you're considering jamming it in a bivy sack. Synthetic is heavier and compresses less but it will insulate you even while moist. Down loses all loft when wet. You can find quite a bit of excellent secondhand outdoors gear on geartrade.com. Remember to buy a sleeping bag a little bit warmer than you think you need. If the minimum temperature on your trip is expected to be 20 degrees don't buy yourself a 20 degree bag, buy a 15 degree.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Yes, try things on. Your local outdoors store or REI can help you.

  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    DekuStick wrote: »
    Going to recommend you buy and carry a Tube Tent. They're basically a tarp with a rope in them but they're dirt cheap and lightweight and will keep you and your stuff dry in a pinch.

    I'm sure others will come in with recommendations on pack and sleeping bag.

    I've got to disagree here, specifically on the basis that the OP is just up in CO and while the weather varies, it's not the arctic or anything.

    You can get a good single person tent that breaks down easily, is lightweight, with a rain shield and vents for under $60 that will last you years if you take good care of it, and it'll break down to a small size in less than 10 minutes once you get the hang of breaking it down, and shouldn't weigh more than 5-10lbs MAX.

    Those tube tents are awesome, but there's been so many advancements in low cost single person tents that they're at least worth a look.

    Having said that, I camp a lot in the SouthEast USA primarily, so having a tent with a lot of ventilation, a rain shield, and honestly a $5 coleman battery powered fan that hangs on top inside like a ceiling fan is pretty much a must have for me.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited July 2012
    I love REI if only because of their "return anything anytime for any reason" policy. With something as personal as a backpack, it's fucking amazing to be able to take a pack, do a few weeks worth of hiking across the next six months, then go to the store and say, "You know, this pack isn't as comfortable as I'd expected, I'd like to exchange it."

    As for tents, I have a North Face Tadpole that I use for two people (who don't mind sleeping real close) which would work well for one person plus gear if you weren't being picky. It weighs in at about five pounds with the rain cover and everything, so it's not ultra-light, but it's light weight and suits me wonderfully.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    The other advantage to going to a store for trying on a framed backpack is that the person helping you will show you how to properly adjust it and wear it. If you buy one sight unseen, you could end up with a very nice pack that fits you perfectly but that you don't know how to adjust and wear, resulting in you being unhappy simply because you aren't aware of a strap somewhere.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    I just went backpacking for a week in Colorado, out near leadville (climbed Elbert, Massive, and Columbia).

    1. Get a tent. I wouldn't recommend just sleeping out under the stars. Even though it's a drier year, there are still rain clouds that come in almost every day currently if you're in the mountain. I've got this, and I was quite happy with it. The rain cover for it was nice as well, because it has two vestibules, which is handy when it's raining out (can put your pack and shoes under it).

    2. Definitely get fitted for a pack. Personally I recommend Osprey, they seem to fit well on me at least, and have a lot of ways to adjust it.

    3. I highly recommend a sleeping pad...they roll up pretty tight, and really make a difference.

    4. Personally, I'd recommend buying some kind of jetboil system. Great way to get a hot meal or make some coffee quickly. Especially currently since campfires are pretty much prohibited across the entire state.

    5. Water. You're going to need a lof of it, especially if you climb any mountains. Be prepared!

    6. Pack a few layers of clothes. Like you said, the weather is variable. When I was up there last week, it would get up to almost the 90s at points, and at night sometimes into the low 40s.

    7. Get a good pair of hiking shoes...I'd recommend something with good ankle support and waterproof. Along with this, get some good, thick socks!


    Those are the main things I can think of off the top of my head. Naturally, you can backpack on a shoestring budget, but personally I'd recommend spending the money to make it much more comfortable (and safer) for you.

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  • DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    DekuStick wrote: »
    Going to recommend you buy and carry a Tube Tent. They're basically a tarp with a rope in them but they're dirt cheap and lightweight and will keep you and your stuff dry in a pinch.

    I'm sure others will come in with recommendations on pack and sleeping bag.

    I've got to disagree here, specifically on the basis that the OP is just up in CO and while the weather varies, it's not the arctic or anything.

    You can get a good single person tent that breaks down easily, is lightweight, with a rain shield and vents for under $60 that will last you years if you take good care of it, and it'll break down to a small size in less than 10 minutes once you get the hang of breaking it down, and shouldn't weigh more than 5-10lbs MAX.

    Those tube tents are awesome, but there's been so many advancements in low cost single person tents that they're at least worth a look.

    Having said that, I camp a lot in the SouthEast USA primarily, so having a tent with a lot of ventilation, a rain shield, and honestly a $5 coleman battery powered fan that hangs on top inside like a ceiling fan is pretty much a must have for me.

    I fully agree it shouldn't be used a main tent but it's something so cheap and lightweight there's little reason not to carry one. It has a ton of uses other than being shelter. It's bright orange which helps people see you should you need help, can catch rain water, wrap wood or whatever else in it that needs to stay dry. You get what you pay for they aren't the greatest but I always carry one on me for the versatility of it.

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