I have to admit, I'm pretty puzzled/intrigued as to how this affects his actions in Young Avengers.
Also, I wonder if Gillen knew he'd be doing Young Avengers when he wrote that ending.
He didn't - he's had the ending written since he started on JIM, and this was well before he was asked to do YA.
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The guy who wrote the article I linked further up the page, Tom Ewing, suggested on twitter that Gillen is the Moore of our generation.
(McKelvie: "don't say that, you'll make him insufferable"
Gillen: "I was already insufferable anyways")
While that feels a little premature as Gillen is still fairly early in his comics writing career, I'm not exactly disagreeing.
I would imagine that his days at PC Gamer, where he no doubt did thorough playthroughs of games like Planescape: Torment and the Legacy of Kain series, heavily influenced Gillen's writing. In fact, I think he even reviewed Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer.
if (and probably when) it crashes due to low sales, it's going to cause certain folks in the editorial staff to go "SEE I TOLD YOU WOMEN COULDN'T CARRY A BOOK" and then we're back to them being tertiary characters again
88. FEAR ITSELF: THE FEARLESS
10/11 #1 of 12 - 59,464
11/11 #2 of 12 - 57,794 ( -2.8%)
11/11 #3 of 12 - 36,044 (-37.6%)
12/11 #4 of 12 - 31,491 (-12.6%)
12/11 #5 of 12 - 29,343 ( -6.8%)
01/12 #6 of 12 - 26,700 ( -9.0%)
01/12 #7 of 12 - 26,167 ( -2.0%)
02/12 #8 of 12 - 24,394 ( -6.8%)
02/12 #9 of 12 - 24,423 ( +0.1%)
03/12 #10 of 12 - 23,629 ( -3.3%)
03/12 #11 of 12 - 23,211 ( -1.8%)
04/12 #12 of 12 - 23,210 ( -0.0%)
On the basis of a Valkyrie book, it did good, as well as She-Hulk, mainly sitting the 20-30k range. But as a six month Fear Itself epilogue, it might not last long when you have all the other NOW books getting a head start. Maybe if it was earlier out the chute it would have a better chance, there's just so many double shipping books now. Now if it's also a Pet Avengers book, that changes everything, it sells 50k consistently.
Edit: this Will Sliney's art that's on his blog, he reminds me of Timothy Green II before he just fell apart in recent months, more like his Star-Lord mini work.
I enjoyed The Fearless and think the book will be good
but having a team of all ladies that is specifically chosen to be all ladies is the wrong way to do this
I mean look at Uncanny X-Force, Puck is the only guy on the team but Humphries hasn't been pushing it was a female driven book. It's just a team book that happens to have more women than men.
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
I want Nick Dragotta on New Avengers, he's got talking head stuff down completely. Heck, see if Nick Pitarra wants to draw an arc in between stories for Manhattan Projects.
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited November 2012
Bachalo? I'll take him over Pacheco and his fill-ins but hopefully he doesn't color his own work this series. When you think of a book about a hero kicking butt around the world and standing up for mutants, Bachalo isn't the first one to come to mind, maybe he'll change his style a bit back to his Gen X days.
I was going to pick up some ANXM issues but I'll just wait for this book proper and try some other NOW books until February.
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited November 2012
I'm looking at it this way: like we saw in Avengers, Bendis will bring his characterization no matter what, and we saw this in AvX how Bendis didn't write Cyclops very well. But at least with how Gillen seems to be setting him up Cyclops is a relatively clean slate; a hero who lost his way for a bit but accomplished his goal and knows what will happen to future mutants, so he's going to protect them. From what Bendis has said, he seems to have a mission statement for Cyclops that goes beyond his previous version of "Captain America's enemy and therefore he's the bad guy"
Now if Bendis starts to reference stuff from before Schism or tries to dip his feet in Morrison's stuff, I'll get worried, because his strength has never been in trying to copy Nicieza or Busiek or Carey in terms of gently bringing up old plot points. Or if he uses the time travel kids to beat modern day Cyclops over the head in terms of how "lost" he is these days, that can become a problem. Uncanny X-Men should be JLA at it's prime, a bunch of heroes responding to big threats. I'd settle for Justice League Elite. Heck, just make it extinction team 2.0, but reenforce the "protect a world that fears and hates them" over "protecting the remaining mutants from destruction"
edit: I didn't realize it before you mentioned it but 4 books (6 issues a month probably) is a heavy load, and that can be a problem. Hopefully not in the first arcs but afterwards we'll probably see dips in the books as focus goes from one to the other, this happened to him before around Dark Reign.
I think Bendis will write Cyclops fine. The interview he recently had about him painted a very shades of grey characterization and Bendis showed he can write dark characters very well in Dark Avengers.
I do think the 4 books at one thing might prove to be a problem, but if anyone can handle it is either him or Hickman.
I mean in 2008 he wrote: The bi-weekly Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate Power, Halo: Uprising, Secret Invasion, New Avengers, Mighty Avengers and Ultimate Origins.
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He didn't - he's had the ending written since he started on JIM, and this was well before he was asked to do YA.
(McKelvie: "don't say that, you'll make him insufferable"
Gillen: "I was already insufferable anyways")
While that feels a little premature as Gillen is still fairly early in his comics writing career, I'm not exactly disagreeing.
it's great to see that he's come so far from his PC Gamer days!
"Ride or Die" confirmed Dominic Toretto, as they took off to find the Dragon Balls in hopes of reviving their friend Sonic
Gonna guess this is the all-lady team teased at the end of The Fearless
since A) duh and
they could replace her with Monica Rambeau
also if Carol's on the team, she should definitely be the leader
And Valkyrie is the leader, they straight up say so in the next panel.
if (and probably when) it crashes due to low sales, it's going to cause certain folks in the editorial staff to go "SEE I TOLD YOU WOMEN COULDN'T CARRY A BOOK" and then we're back to them being tertiary characters again
but hey, swimsuit issues will come back!!!
88. FEAR ITSELF: THE FEARLESS
10/11 #1 of 12 - 59,464
11/11 #2 of 12 - 57,794 ( -2.8%)
11/11 #3 of 12 - 36,044 (-37.6%)
12/11 #4 of 12 - 31,491 (-12.6%)
12/11 #5 of 12 - 29,343 ( -6.8%)
01/12 #6 of 12 - 26,700 ( -9.0%)
01/12 #7 of 12 - 26,167 ( -2.0%)
02/12 #8 of 12 - 24,394 ( -6.8%)
02/12 #9 of 12 - 24,423 ( +0.1%)
03/12 #10 of 12 - 23,629 ( -3.3%)
03/12 #11 of 12 - 23,211 ( -1.8%)
04/12 #12 of 12 - 23,210 ( -0.0%)
On the basis of a Valkyrie book, it did good, as well as She-Hulk, mainly sitting the 20-30k range. But as a six month Fear Itself epilogue, it might not last long when you have all the other NOW books getting a head start. Maybe if it was earlier out the chute it would have a better chance, there's just so many double shipping books now. Now if it's also a Pet Avengers book, that changes everything, it sells 50k consistently.
Edit: this Will Sliney's art that's on his blog, he reminds me of Timothy Green II before he just fell apart in recent months, more like his Star-Lord mini work.
I enjoyed The Fearless and think the book will be good
but having a team of all ladies that is specifically chosen to be all ladies is the wrong way to do this
I mean look at Uncanny X-Force, Puck is the only guy on the team but Humphries hasn't been pushing it was a female driven book. It's just a team book that happens to have more women than men.
"Ride or Die" confirmed Dominic Toretto, as they took off to find the Dragon Balls in hopes of reviving their friend Sonic
THAT is how you do a flagship book's art.
and this shit is biweekly?
Avengers looks sick based off of them, too.
As of right now, there isnt supposed to be a rotating artist, New Avengers is just a monthly. (of course I'm sure at some point they'll be a fill in)
"Ride or Die" confirmed Dominic Toretto, as they took off to find the Dragon Balls in hopes of reviving their friend Sonic
http://marvel.com/news/story/19641/the_future_of_marvel_now_is_uncanny
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/
I write about video games and stuff. It is fun. Sometimes.
I was going to pick up some ANXM issues but I'll just wait for this book proper and try some other NOW books until February.
Damn.
Now if Bendis starts to reference stuff from before Schism or tries to dip his feet in Morrison's stuff, I'll get worried, because his strength has never been in trying to copy Nicieza or Busiek or Carey in terms of gently bringing up old plot points. Or if he uses the time travel kids to beat modern day Cyclops over the head in terms of how "lost" he is these days, that can become a problem. Uncanny X-Men should be JLA at it's prime, a bunch of heroes responding to big threats. I'd settle for Justice League Elite. Heck, just make it extinction team 2.0, but reenforce the "protect a world that fears and hates them" over "protecting the remaining mutants from destruction"
edit: I didn't realize it before you mentioned it but 4 books (6 issues a month probably) is a heavy load, and that can be a problem. Hopefully not in the first arcs but afterwards we'll probably see dips in the books as focus goes from one to the other, this happened to him before around Dark Reign.
Oh and YESSSSSSSSS
I mean in 2008 he wrote: The bi-weekly Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate Power, Halo: Uprising, Secret Invasion, New Avengers, Mighty Avengers and Ultimate Origins.