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Captain's log, Stardate 20130527 Romulan expansion is now live. [STO]

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I don't pvp so I still prefer turrets in my Vo'Quv

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    kildykildy Registered User regular
    I use beams, but not for the subsystem targeting. The cooldown is far too long to be a general use thing imo. Turrets outdamage beams by a ton when using things like Rapid Fire, but on my Atrox I pretty much only have room for Tac Team 1 and Fire at Will.

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    I kinda wanna try turrets but I guess I oughta go buy anti-Borg beam arrays from the STF-office first. Anyone know how the ship-weapons from the Quartermaster's room compares to STF ship-weapons??

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    cooldown on target subsystems isn't so bad when you realize the debuff lasts for pretty much the entire cooldown. then there's the doffs that can reset or reduce target subsystem abilities

    I use target weapons III with max flow capacitors on my defiant and it turns the big bad capital ships into total babies.

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    MuddypawsMuddypaws Lactodorum, UKRegistered User regular
    Owenashi wrote: »

    I also found this interesting video in which a STO player goes over the basics of the Vo'Quv Carrier. I'll let more experienced Carrier-jockeys here judge if it's worth it's weight in salt or not.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD22NNM1Cjw

    I love these videos. Thissler is it? They're funny and not too technical, and I get more info from watching a 5 min you-tube video than most STO forum threads. The basic PVP ones are very funny and have tempted me to try out PVP for the first time.

    Pew pew...BANG. I expect many deaths

    :P

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    I'll probably look at it again once I pick up a VQ myself. I still need to build up my Atrox in the meantime. So far I'm still running weapon-wise with four Uncommon Tetryon Beam-Arrays and the two basic torp-launchers it came with. I did pick up Advanced P-Fighters so that's a step in the right decision. Not sure if I should spend my next 30K-Dil on another A-PF Hanger or pick up Advanced Stalkers. Anyone know if there's any consoles that come off as required for an Atrox or a carrier in general?

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Does that bind on account thing mean, I can get a unique reward like the borg console, send it to an alt then get another one for myself?

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    Not sure but I'm guessing unique mission-rewards like that may still be bound to the character that earned it.

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    NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Oh thank Q... Donating a single. Sample. To. The. Cause. At. A. Time. Was. Really. Fucking. Annoying.

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    mellestadmellestad Registered User regular
    @Atrox, no, no particular consoles, just whatever buffs your playstyle. Personally, I use turrets, with weapon power and aux up to max and shields and engines at minimum. Most of my abilities are tanky, and I'll use a-peragrines.

    Lately though I've switched to an armitage. With all the fleet missions being multi-target I load up on AOE stuff...two scatter volleys, two torp spreads, three dual cannons and a torp up front, three turrets in back. The rest of my abilities are tanky...two tac teams, two power to shields, one haz, one transfer shield. I can tear through groups of ships fast, I can shield tank very well, and I have three team heals for defending the starbase or keeping freighters alive. I run all plasma too...it isn't any good for PvP because all the shields anymore have anti-plasma tags, but I don't PvP much so it doesn't bug me.

    I love our starbase. You guys rock.

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    CroakerBCCroakerBC TorontoRegistered User regular
    Right, finally, finally, finally finished the Cardassian Front. So now I have a Jem'Hadar ground set, and two parts of the space set - are eithe rof them useful for anything? I've already got two parts of Aegis (and once I'm online at the same time as Time To Craft, I'll make the third), and I've got the full Tholian ground set to use at the moment, if that helps with a comparison.

    I know there's better stuff out there (MACO et al), but I need to get online and do STF's with you guys for that to work, so it may take some time to collect - what's the best alternative?

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    The Jem'hadar space set is one of the better ones for DPS, but only if you're using polaron weapons. Any other weapon type you're better off with the Aegis set. It hasn't held up well, but it's still a decent defensive set, and once you get to the first mission in the Undine front and do a few STFs you can switch to 3p Borg with the Aegis shield, sort of a poor man's 3 Borg/MACO.

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    CroakerBCCroakerBC TorontoRegistered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    The Jem'hadar space set is one of the better ones for DPS, but only if you're using polaron weapons. Any other weapon type you're better off with the Aegis set. It hasn't held up well, but it's still a decent defensive set, and once you get to the first mission in the Undine front and do a few STFs you can switch to 3p Borg with the Aegis shield, sort of a poor man's 3 Borg/MACO.

    Annoyingly (?), the one STF I did, I got the MACO shield. Annoying largely because if I use it now, I remove the 2 part Aegis set bonus I have (Shields/Deflector). Suspect I'll craft the Aegis engines for the 3 part bonus, then see if I can catch people from Fleet online during my ours and do a few STF's...

    I gave the Jem'Hadar ground set a bit of a run around earlier, and it *feels* like I'm getting more value from the 3 part Tholian, but wonder if the stats are with me on that one...

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    I dunno if it'll help but the JH Ground-set's rifle does seem to benefit from special craftable items you can make via recipies earned from repeating the Second Wave mission. Haven't tried the free items I got from the mission yet though so I have no clue how much improvement there is.

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    hazywaterhazywater Registered User regular
    The JH space set is quite good. I use that one on my shuttle since it suffers so much for DPS, with dual beams instead of any of those terrible -s weapons.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    How well will a laptop handle this? Second gen i3 but integrated graphics. I have wifi but no hard line and my desktop doesn't do wireless

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    HellboreHellbore A bad, bad man Registered User regular
    As someone who's just hit 50, what's a good set to go for? I'm only just working my way through the Jem'Hadar episodes.

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    NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    I have an HP ProBook (I forget the model number... Wanna say 4200c) and it ran TOR at low settings with few issues (smoke and such). But it has an AMD chipset...

    I wanna say yours could handle it fine, but you're gonna lose out on some texture details (like individual panels on a ship, texture on uniforms).

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    hazywaterhazywater Registered User regular
    Hellbore wrote: »
    As someone who's just hit 50, what's a good set to go for? I'm only just working my way through the Jem'Hadar episodes.

    First set you should work on is doing some normal difficulty STFs, get 15 EDCs and turn them in for 3 pieces of the borg set, and do the one borg mission that rewards the 4th piece of that set.

    You can also just buy the Aegis set off the exchange if EC is no big deal to you. Either of those is good enough for you to start doing STFs more seriously or to grind fleet credits or whatever floats your boat.

    Whatever you decide to do, you ABSOLUTELY must at the very least get the borg engines and the borg console. Otherwise you will tool around at warp 10 like a schmuck.

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    Khade97Khade97 PE10, UKRegistered User regular
    Another newbie to lvl 50 :) I have done a couple of normal STF's and some Fleet Actions, but I dont feel I am being that useful in a group. One of two things seem to happen (neither of which seem that "fun");

    1) My cruiser ends up 1 on 1 with a single enemy cruiser / battleship, takes him out after circling each other for ages broadsiding- but by the time that happens escorts have killed everything else and moved on to the next group.

    2) If I play more aggressively and charge in, I end up having everything in the enemy fleet target me and I die pretty quickly to combined fire.

    I am tempted to move from a cruiser to one of the retrofit escorts and just play at going pew pew pew at enemies with cannons, however before I do that I am open to any suggestions on a fun way to play /build a cruiser.

    At the moment my build is something along the lines of;

    Fore Weapons: 1 Quantum Torp, 3 Tetryon Mk X Beam Arrays
    Aft Weapons: 4 Tetryon Mk X Beam Arrays

    Combat Impulse Engines and some Mk XI shields (cant remember which type - I think they have a purple icon)

    Tac Consoles are 2 +16% Beam Dmg, 1 +25% Tetryon Dmg
    Eng Consoles are 2 different hull platings, 1 Shield power, 1 Weapon Power
    Sci Consoles are 1 +Shield Regen, 1 Flow Capacitors, 1 Shield & Ancillary Power

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    What sort of cruiser are you in at the moment? Oh, if you can bear and grin it enough to pick up 15 EDC, you can buy three of the Borg space-set pieces that they sell over in DS9's STF-office.

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    BasilBasil Registered User regular
    So how does one get into the fleet nowdays?

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    Just speak up in the PA chat-channel for an invite and let us know if you're Fed or KDF. :)

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    Khade97Khade97 PE10, UKRegistered User regular
    Owenashi wrote: »
    What sort of cruiser are you in at the moment? Oh, if you can bear and grin it enough to pick up 15 EDC, you can buy three of the Borg space-set pieces that they sell over in DS9's STF-office.

    I am in the Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit (I.e. the Cheyenne Class), for the extra armour / console over the Soverign Class.

    I am working towards getting 15 tokens for the Borg kit (I have 2, YAY!), but will they really make that much of a difference?

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    NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Was the Galaxy class Refit (or was it Retro fit? The one with saucer seperation) ever offered for free? Cause I'm trying to figure out when the hell I got one. And how should I build it?
    I've got the Aegis parts right. That's the best I got.

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Khade97 wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    What sort of cruiser are you in at the moment? Oh, if you can bear and grin it enough to pick up 15 EDC, you can buy three of the Borg space-set pieces that they sell over in DS9's STF-office.

    I am in the Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit (I.e. the Cheyenne Class), for the extra armour / console over the Soverign Class.

    I am working towards getting 15 tokens for the Borg kit (I have 2, YAY!), but will they really make that much of a difference?

    Well each offers +5 to a particular system. Plus having two pieces equipped will give you a passive boost to hull-repair while also giving a chance to trigger a self-heal to the hull if it gets hit. And having three pieces will give the same chance to trigger a shield-heal.

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    Khade97Khade97 PE10, UKRegistered User regular
    Nice, that should add a little bit to survivability then. At the heart of this I guess I feel I am just getting bored of slowely broadsiding away at the enemy while the escorts fly around like madmen :P

    The next thing I am going to say is going to sound really geeky though (but this is a STO thread on a Video Game forums, so what the hell): Another issue is that the Cheyenne looks less than nice (stupid highlighter Nacelles), and I keep feeling I am "doing it wrong" by using my custom created non-canon ship. Someone tell me that is a stupid bugbear and I should get over it!

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Khade97 wrote: »
    The next thing I am going to say is going to sound really geeky though (but this is a STO thread on a Video Game forums, so what the hell): Another issue is that the Cheyenne looks less than nice (stupid highlighter Nacelles), and I keep feeling I am "doing it wrong" by using my custom created non-canon ship. Someone tell me that is a stupid bugbear and I should get over it!

    A majority of canon ships were made by shoving parts of old models together until they lined up. Ridiculousness of design probably peaked in the first scene of A Time to Stand, which included, among other things, an Excelsior saucer with a scaled up Oberth secondary hull on backwards sticking out in front like a giant space-dong and mismatched nacelles on the saucer.

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    I think in the end you need to feel as comfortable as you can with your ship to avoid any distractions. When I picked up my basic Science Vessel for my Sci-Officer, I must have tweaked it's look several times over a span of a few days before I liked what I had.

    BTW, if you want a bit more DPS for your ship for STFs, you might want to invest some EDC or Rare Borg Tech in picking up M-X/M-XI anti-Borg beam arrays for your ship. They certainly help out when it comes to burning down Probes in KA-Space if you're on that particular duty.

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    BasilBasil Registered User regular
    Oh, I see I'm still in the fleet after all! Neat.

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    Khade97Khade97 PE10, UKRegistered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Khade97 wrote: »
    The next thing I am going to say is going to sound really geeky though (but this is a STO thread on a Video Game forums, so what the hell): Another issue is that the Cheyenne looks less than nice (stupid highlighter Nacelles), and I keep feeling I am "doing it wrong" by using my custom created non-canon ship. Someone tell me that is a stupid bugbear and I should get over it!

    A majority of canon ships were made by shoving parts of old models together until they lined up. Ridiculousness of design probably peaked in the first scene of A Time to Stand, which included, among other things, an Excelsior saucer with a scaled up Oberth secondary hull on backwards sticking out in front like a giant space-dong and mismatched nacelles on the saucer.

    Oh, I agreed that there are some crazy designs out there (and that 90% of the models that arn't the "big screen" ships are stupid kitbashes). It seems that after Sisko produced the Defiant, it was left to a bunch of babbling morons to decide next on what ships to put into production.

    I guess any custom ships can just be "experimental refits" :)

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    AvynteAvynte Registered User regular
    Khade97 wrote: »

    Tac Consoles are 2 +16% Beam Dmg, 1 +25% Tetryon Dmg
    Eng Consoles are 2 different hull platings, 1 Shield power, 1 Weapon Power
    Sci Consoles are 1 +Shield Regen, 1 Flow Capacitors, 1 Shield & Ancillary Power

    As you build up some currency I would recommend swapping out those +beam damage for tetryon ones to up your damage. On the engy console side I would swap the shield power console for another armor, and the weapon power for an eps console. The eps consoles will make a big difference on your dps. Just make sure youre running full weapon power, min engines and aux, and the rest to shields.

    I forget the name of the mission in the gamma quadrant (assimilated I think?) but run it and get the Borg console to put in a sci slot.

    As for feeling out of place in stfs, just watch what the others are shooting at, help focus fire, and you'll do fine. Elites are the only time where you have to actually pay attention to a little strategy and hold your own.

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Khade97 wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Khade97 wrote: »
    The next thing I am going to say is going to sound really geeky though (but this is a STO thread on a Video Game forums, so what the hell): Another issue is that the Cheyenne looks less than nice (stupid highlighter Nacelles), and I keep feeling I am "doing it wrong" by using my custom created non-canon ship. Someone tell me that is a stupid bugbear and I should get over it!

    A majority of canon ships were made by shoving parts of old models together until they lined up. Ridiculousness of design probably peaked in the first scene of A Time to Stand, which included, among other things, an Excelsior saucer with a scaled up Oberth secondary hull on backwards sticking out in front like a giant space-dong and mismatched nacelles on the saucer.

    Oh, I agreed that there are some crazy designs out there (and that 90% of the models that arn't the "big screen" ships are stupid kitbashes). It seems that after Sisko produced the Defiant, it was left to a bunch of babbling morons to decide next on what ships to put into production.

    I guess any custom ships can just be "experimental refits" :)

    Well, the DS9 explanation works just as well as experimental refits. Most of those weren't intentional designs, but slapped together out of wrecks and surplus yards in a desperate effort just to keep pieces in the game. Starfleet hadn't been mobilized on a comparable scale in centuries, and there was an intentional implication at the start of season 6 that they just weren't up to it anymore. Which in turn is what they used to retcon the Galaxy class being replaced 94 years ahead of schedule.

    Of course that doesn't explain why the Stargazer had visible hacksaw marks.

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    Khade97Khade97 PE10, UKRegistered User regular
    Avynte wrote: »
    Just make sure youre running full weapon power, min engines and aux, and the rest to shields.

    I forget the name of the mission in the gamma quadrant (assimilated I think?) but run it and get the Borg console to put in a sci slot.

    I normaly run 100/50/25/25 on power, unless I am being hammered in which case I move to 75/75/25/25.

    As to the gamma quadrant, does that come later in the "story" - I am still trying to start a war with the Romulans at the moment (the higher ups keep saying I am preventing a war, but flying into Romulan space and blowing up their ships seems to be more likely to start a war.)

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    There is no Gamma Quadrant right now, except for a couple missions inside the wormhole and one on the other side in the Cardassian Front.

    (warning: Nerdy Nitpicking ahead) The mission Avynte is talking about is in the Gamma Orionis sector, which is in the Beta Quadrant, near Gorn space. If the map were contiguous, it would be about two blocks south from Eta Eridani. The nebula there is the one from Wrath of Khan, and a few other systems there were sites of classic TOS episodes.

    As to the Romulan thing, the Romulans aren't in any state to fight a war. They're looking to strike a killing blow, which is pretty easy to foil just by being aware of it. The fact that the story arc has the Federation ahead of them at every turn means they never get that chance, so by the time you get to The Vault, it's all shifted to petty infighting.

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    AvynteAvynte Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Derp I got gamma orionis and gamma quadrant mixed up :oops:

    Watching through ds9 for the first time has me all with gamma quadrants on the mind hehe

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Well, at least you're in the right series (couple DS9 episodes set in there, too). Most players seem to think it's in the Delta Quadrant because Borg.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    just a note though, the assimilated console takes a while to get to. it's the first undine front mission so you'll have to play through a lot of story first (unless a replay week comes up maybe?).

    i thought the borg shields weren't that good? i've just been using covariant XIs from a mission reward waiting to get macos to drop

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    AvynteAvynte Registered User regular
    i thought the borg shields weren't that good? i've just been using covariant XIs from a mission reward waiting to get macos to drop

    The Borg shields are fairly underwhelming. I run them on my gumby just because it looks cool having the whole thing green and spiky but yeah, even the aegis is probably a better choice til maco.

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    Khade97Khade97 PE10, UKRegistered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Thanks all for your help, I am going to stick with my cruiser and to hell with canon ships. The Defiant class is a boy-racer ship, real men choose cruisers :P

    I am going to rework my crew again I think. I tried to use the "Dragon" build and as effective as it is supposed to be it just dosen't work for me. I am changing to go with something I like over something that is supposed to be good.

    Anywho, with my newfound commitment to cruisers I would like to present the Helios Class Federation Cruiser;
    The Helios class was brought into service during the latter half of the Dominion War during late 2374. The ASDB took a look at the designs they had been producing lately, desided half the team must have been smoking something and promptly brought in a new set of more competent designers. Unable to scrap work on already in progress vessels due to war shortages, the Helios class took the saucer and quad-pylon sections of the Cheyenne, but fitted them against a more compact engineering hull and with more modern warp nacelles. Christened the Helios Class after the ancient earth Sun God who rode across the sky in a firery chariot bulled by four horses, the Helios soon became a staple cruiser for the fleet serving long after the war ended.

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