I know I played up those guys rebelling, but they were crushed pretty easily. This was mostly due to excessive placating of the King of Aragon. Also, some clutch jailings (notably the Queen of Leon). Eventually the old King of Aquitaine kicked the bucket so we go for a white peace with his son.
Now that we're not at war, let's take stock of everything.
Now that we're done with that nasty civil war business, we decide to join in the Crusade.
The Pope seems down with us jumping on board.
We run around in Egypt for a while.
Take some land, take a couple souvenirs back for the kids in Hispania.
And then it's all over?
Who gets the spoils? Poland I guess...
That's a pretty crushing blow to the muslims to lose that much land.
Oh hey look another revolt. Obviously this means it's time to have more babies.
Honestly, it's pretty impressive that she's still having kids considering that she's 40 at this point. We mop up that revolt pretty quickly and throw the King in jail.
Interestingly, there's a claimant to the French throne that's amenable to coming to court.
So we go ahead and press his claim.
We badly outnumber the french forces, so it's a bit of a cakewalk.
Welcome to the fold, France!
And then we get dire news. Jihad!
We quickly mobilize the troops, and organize them into a defensive position on the coast.
We also send an expeditionary force to the middle east to help protect Anatolia and put some pressure on. When we arrive, we see something very odd...
They're actually walking all the way across Europe to attack. Man are they bad at this.
Realizing the "jihad" isn't too much of a threat, I leave the troops mobilized in Spain in case the muslims ever get there, and have our troops in Anatolia screw with them as the trek across Asia minor. I also arrange for a marriage between my heir and a princess of the Byzantine Empire.
I realize that all that's between uniting Hispania and the Byzantine Empire is a couple of older siblings, so I get to work.
We're successful killing the eldest son, leaving only the older sister.
I get impatient with murderin' progress, so I send some extra assassins after her.
Looks like Norway has some pretty serious revolts going on. Other than that, man Poland sure is everywhere.
Eastern Europe:
Still a crazy mishmash. It looks like that wedge of HRE territory is keeping the golden horde at bay. Hispania's still got our territory up there.
Italy, Greece, Asia Minor:
Byzantine Empire is doing pretty decently, actually. Sure they've lost Anatolia and Armenia, but they don't have to take the brunt of the muslim advance anymore, which has allowed them to take southern italy.
The Middle East:
Poland's still holding large swaths of land. It'll be interesting to see if they can hold it. If so, things don't look to hot for the Shia muslims.
So that's about it. Here's your new ruler:
One important note is that if you don't have any kids you're going to have to take care of your sister because she's regular married, and she's next in line. Our jihad is still going on, but we should be able to get a surrender out of them pretty easily.
So things seem to be going swimmingly in the Kingdom of Ireland. I only have one vassal that doesn't pretty much adore me (he's locked in the darkest dungeon available) and my slow but steady and most importantly inevitable (bwahahaha) invasion of Wales is proceeding excellently. For better or for worse I have married the Queen of Scotland as well as marrying off other family members to English and French royalty. I suspect that this shall instigate some serious fun in a generation or twos time.
Question for the CK boffins. It seems to me (most likely incorrectly) that the only way to see if someone is at war and the details of said war is to click on a county they own and hover over the tiny icon with a sword under it. I noticed that when I bring my own proper war menus up that there is a button to join either side, greyed out obviously because I am already involved in any wars of my own. I presume there must be a way to get to this war menu for NPCs, but for the life of me couldn't figure out how to do it. Basically I really want to join in a crusade, because I have a ridiculous number of levies currently sitting at home doing bugger all!
Join a crusade through the banner under your portrait.
Had my first multiplayer experience yesterday playing as Sicily. All was going well, I had the Kingdom formed and all de jure territory, then Jihad..... game over. Was fun while it lasted.
Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...
Join a crusade through the banner under your portrait.
Had my first multiplayer experience yesterday playing as Sicily. All was going well, I had the Kingdom formed and all de jure territory, then Jihad..... game over. Was fun while it lasted.
Thanks! Is it possible to join in on a none crusade war though?
Yes, it is. Just go to the diplomacy screen for the ruler you want to assist, and find the option "Offer to join war". I'm not sure of all the conditions that allow you to join a war though.
I'd just love to be able to get up the same war score screen I have for my conflicts for NPC's wars. The one where you can view the battle %, occupation %, all the battles waged and their outcomes etc.
I'm playing as Ireland and currently have the Kingdoms of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, and Castille. I also have some random duchies elsewhere in Eastern Europe. These guys rebel every time I get a new ruler and I just want them gone. But I don't want them to win their rebellions because then all my crown authority gets downgraded and I like being at Medium. How can I just give these guys away or tell them that they can be independent, no strings attached?
Also, I'm a bit confused about pressing claims for people in my court. I've done it a couple of times, and all it ends up doing is that they get to be their own independent nation and I get nothing out of it. I even pressed a claim for the Kingdom of England once only to win the war and then have that guy just become the new King. So much wasted effort! I think what I have to do is find someone with a claim, invite them to court, marry them into my dynasty, produce a child that inherits the claim, then go to war to press that child's claim? That seems like such a roundabout way to do it! Especially because almost all of them are already married, so I'd have to murder their spouse first to marry my guy/girl. I just want to form Britannia! But I can never get a good claim on England, and conquering it piece by piece will take forever due to truces making me wait 5 years between wars.
Well. The solution to pressing claims is that you give them a county in your kingdom. As long as you press claims that are one step lower than your own (counties if you're a duke, counties and dukedoms if you're a king, kingdoms as well if you're an emperor) they will remain your vassals, and this will include the new lands.
Likewise. If you want to get rid of counties, invite someone who has a claim at your level (a king for example). Give him those silly counties and then press his claims for a realm of equal rank. Those counties will now disappear with him.
Same thing if you can arrange so that those counties pass off to someone who is in line to inherit a duchy (if you're a duke) or a kingdom (if you're a king). Unless you have Absolute rule (or maybe it's high authority) those counties will be gone.
"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Well. The solution to pressing claims is that you give them a county in your kingdom. As long as you press claims that are one step lower than your own (counties if you're a duke, counties and dukedoms if you're a king, kingdoms as well if you're an emperor) they will remain your vassals, and this will include the new lands.
Pretty sure this isn't the case with Kings. I know that whenever I've pressed a King claim, I don't get to keep it even if I'm an Emperor. UNLESS they're already a King in my realm.
Though that makes me a little confused about how pressing that claim for France actually worked in this game. Because when I do that, it definitely doesn't.
Well. The solution to pressing claims is that you give them a county in your kingdom. As long as you press claims that are one step lower than your own (counties if you're a duke, counties and dukedoms if you're a king, kingdoms as well if you're an emperor) they will remain your vassals, and this will include the new lands.
Pretty sure this isn't the case with Kings. I know that whenever I've pressed a King claim, I don't get to keep it even if I'm an Emperor. UNLESS they're already a King in my realm.
Though that makes me a little confused about how pressing that claim for France actually worked in this game. Because when I do that, it definitely doesn't.
It might be that it has to be a county which you have de jure claims over.
"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
There are more options for manipulating succession in your favor than just marrying the current ruler straight-up. One relatively practical (if convoluted) thing you can try is marrying your heir to a childless claimant (people with weak claims are rarely picky about matrilineal vs. patrilineal marriages) and then push that person's claim when an opportunity presents itself. Your heir won't control the kingdom (it'll still belong to their spouse), but your heir's heir will be set up to potentially inherit everything.
Make sure you check the target kingdom's succession laws before you start, though. I once had to murder my own mother after installing her as the queen of Norway only to realize that Norway practiced elective succession.
Still. It's easily +10 to your stewardsship value if you want it to be.
"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Seeing how my son has a stewardship score of 0. I went ahead and killed him off. For some reason this went ahead and made HIS son my heir instead of my next oldest son. Well, that's fine with me as he's younger and has better stats. It was just unexpected.
Yep, that's how it works. And how it should work.
There's even a bug (or at least I consider it a bug) that can happen if one of your older daughters dies when she has a son. If she would have been your heir if she was male, your grandson still becomes your heir even though it should still be your eldest son.
Ah, that would make sense then. Anyone know the breakpoints of the stewardship value in regards to demesne limit. Is it every 5 from your personal stewardship and half your wife's and you get an extra demesnes?
See, you take your Stewardship + half your wifes.
Then you divide that by four and round down. That's the stewardship demesne bonus.
So if you have 7 and your wife has 19 that's "(7+19/2)=16.5". Divided by 4 and rounded down your demesne bonus becomes 4.
"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Speaking of stats and what they affect, what does your combined martial score (that is your score + spouse + marshal) actually affect? I've been trying to pin down when you benefit from a spouse's martial score since wives aren't going to be leading troops.
The rate at which martial technology improves (each of the three different fields are boosted by the Learning rate and one of the fields State Martial, State Stewardship or State Diplomacy. The military fields corresponds with State Martial value), the morale refill rate of all your armies (the section commander only acts to prevent/aggravate moral loss rate) and grants a defensive bonus to all troops.
"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Ugh - so I finally manage to put together the empire of Britannia and the first time a new heir inheirts, EVERYONE revolts. Is there something about empires that pisses everyone off?
I've actually got the kingdoms of ireland, scotland, wales, england, brittany, france and hungry, so I should probably give a few of those to vassels to keep the peace. (England reeeealllly was a pain in the but - I kept winning crusades while slowly eating enough of england to create the empire.)
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so, this is a thing that happened:
I've never had a crusade for that area before. The Muslims had taken over all but about 3 counties in the kingdom even - so I made off like a bandit. (They didn't even show up to defend the crusade)
For business reasons, I must preserve the outward sign of sanity.
--Mark Twain
38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
So I finally died, giving my son The Empire of Britannia and Scandinavia. He has also been running the Byzantine Empire since my wife died. (The laws in that Empire are quite the mess. I wonder if I can ever stop the civil wars to fix them. Low Crown authority and no taxes anywhere. Blech. Once I kick out the French I can have my son create another empire in Spain. I want to take some land from the HRE, but they've been defending against Jihad for all eternity. First thing I have to figure out is how to distribute all my land to keep my empire from imploding. My son is not well liked it seems. At least my new heir has the strong trait finally.
DuriniaEvolved from Space PotatoesRegistered Userregular
question: I'm trying to give my heir the kingdom of Greece (since I've created the Latin Empire title). I hold no personal land within Greece, he has 5 counties and a duchy within Greece. When I go to grant a landed title, the kingdom of Greece just doesn't appear (regardless of checkbox status).
Thoughts? Why can't I give him the kingdom?
For business reasons, I must preserve the outward sign of sanity.
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Does he hold any other titles? You can't give Kingdoms or Duchies to people who don't hold something already.
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I know I played up those guys rebelling, but they were crushed pretty easily. This was mostly due to excessive placating of the King of Aragon. Also, some clutch jailings (notably the Queen of Leon). Eventually the old King of Aquitaine kicked the bucket so we go for a white peace with his son.
Now that we're not at war, let's take stock of everything.
Now that we're done with that nasty civil war business, we decide to join in the Crusade.
The Pope seems down with us jumping on board.
We run around in Egypt for a while.
Take some land, take a couple souvenirs back for the kids in Hispania.
And then it's all over?
Who gets the spoils? Poland I guess...
That's a pretty crushing blow to the muslims to lose that much land.
Oh hey look another revolt. Obviously this means it's time to have more babies.
Honestly, it's pretty impressive that she's still having kids considering that she's 40 at this point. We mop up that revolt pretty quickly and throw the King in jail.
Interestingly, there's a claimant to the French throne that's amenable to coming to court.
So we go ahead and press his claim.
We badly outnumber the french forces, so it's a bit of a cakewalk.
Welcome to the fold, France!
And then we get dire news. Jihad!
We quickly mobilize the troops, and organize them into a defensive position on the coast.
We also send an expeditionary force to the middle east to help protect Anatolia and put some pressure on. When we arrive, we see something very odd...
Realizing the "jihad" isn't too much of a threat, I leave the troops mobilized in Spain in case the muslims ever get there, and have our troops in Anatolia screw with them as the trek across Asia minor. I also arrange for a marriage between my heir and a princess of the Byzantine Empire.
I realize that all that's between uniting Hispania and the Byzantine Empire is a couple of older siblings, so I get to work.
We're successful killing the eldest son, leaving only the older sister.
I get impatient with murderin' progress, so I send some extra assassins after her.
This turns out to be a bad idea.
Well that's unfortunate, but we shall press on!
Or not.
Spain and North Africa:
Go us!
France:
Go us!
The British Isles:
Pretty boring
Central Europe:
Still pretty boring
Scandanavia:
Looks like Norway has some pretty serious revolts going on. Other than that, man Poland sure is everywhere.
Eastern Europe:
Still a crazy mishmash. It looks like that wedge of HRE territory is keeping the golden horde at bay. Hispania's still got our territory up there.
Italy, Greece, Asia Minor:
Byzantine Empire is doing pretty decently, actually. Sure they've lost Anatolia and Armenia, but they don't have to take the brunt of the muslim advance anymore, which has allowed them to take southern italy.
The Middle East:
Poland's still holding large swaths of land. It'll be interesting to see if they can hold it. If so, things don't look to hot for the Shia muslims.
So that's about it. Here's your new ruler:
One important note is that if you don't have any kids you're going to have to take care of your sister because she's regular married, and she's next in line. Our jihad is still going on, but we should be able to get a surrender out of them pretty easily.
Question for the CK boffins. It seems to me (most likely incorrectly) that the only way to see if someone is at war and the details of said war is to click on a county they own and hover over the tiny icon with a sword under it. I noticed that when I bring my own proper war menus up that there is a button to join either side, greyed out obviously because I am already involved in any wars of my own. I presume there must be a way to get to this war menu for NPCs, but for the life of me couldn't figure out how to do it. Basically I really want to join in a crusade, because I have a ridiculous number of levies currently sitting at home doing bugger all!
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Had my first multiplayer experience yesterday playing as Sicily. All was going well, I had the Kingdom formed and all de jure territory, then Jihad..... game over. Was fun while it lasted.
Thanks! Is it possible to join in on a none crusade war though?
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Well. The solution to pressing claims is that you give them a county in your kingdom. As long as you press claims that are one step lower than your own (counties if you're a duke, counties and dukedoms if you're a king, kingdoms as well if you're an emperor) they will remain your vassals, and this will include the new lands.
Likewise. If you want to get rid of counties, invite someone who has a claim at your level (a king for example). Give him those silly counties and then press his claims for a realm of equal rank. Those counties will now disappear with him.
Same thing if you can arrange so that those counties pass off to someone who is in line to inherit a duchy (if you're a duke) or a kingdom (if you're a king). Unless you have Absolute rule (or maybe it's high authority) those counties will be gone.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Pretty sure this isn't the case with Kings. I know that whenever I've pressed a King claim, I don't get to keep it even if I'm an Emperor. UNLESS they're already a King in my realm.
Though that makes me a little confused about how pressing that claim for France actually worked in this game. Because when I do that, it definitely doesn't.
Ah well, I'm sure there's other sneaky things I can play around with regardless.
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You can see I did that twice during my turn. You just need to be of the same dynasty or give the claimant some land first.
It might be that it has to be a county which you have de jure claims over.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Being part of the same dynasty definitely does NOT work as of 1.6.1.
Giving them (any) land first did not work as of 1.5. So unless they changed it...
This might be it.
That's what I did with Aquitaine.
We're pretty stable right now, so it's probably best if someone new take over.
Make sure you check the target kingdom's succession laws before you start, though. I once had to murder my own mother after installing her as the queen of Norway only to realize that Norway practiced elective succession.
Still. It's easily +10 to your stewardsship value if you want it to be.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Yep, that's how it works. And how it should work.
There's even a bug (or at least I consider it a bug) that can happen if one of your older daughters dies when she has a son. If she would have been your heir if she was male, your grandson still becomes your heir even though it should still be your eldest son.
See, you take your Stewardship + half your wifes.
Then you divide that by four and round down. That's the stewardship demesne bonus.
So if you have 7 and your wife has 19 that's "(7+19/2)=16.5". Divided by 4 and rounded down your demesne bonus becomes 4.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
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I am a freaking nerd.
I'd have offered to take it if it didn't look a little too easy at this point.
We need something to go horribly wrong!
Could I use a console command to convert to Islam? :twisted:
Edit: Serious suggestion. It might be fun to swap to a different nation and see if we can destroy the juggernaut we created.
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--Mark Twain
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Thoughts? Why can't I give him the kingdom?
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