Oh, and the Sunset Invasion is a cool idea that seems poorly implemented.
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Alright, my ruler had 6 kids, 1 son, so the idea that i could selectively end my line was moot. My son Reginald the IV was a baller in the intrigue department and his wife, his cousin (and heir to the Duchy of Brittany) was a baller in stewardship. I had a granddaughter and I luckily died and passed it all along to my son. So Reggie IV betrothes his daughter, heir to the throne of Britannia and all subsequent kingdoms including Brittany, to her cousin the king of france and castille. If this goes off without a hitch i will be so damn pleased.
Failing that I might be able to kill my way into the line of succession of that if it doesnt work out. I also hate that if it doesnt work out i might still have to deal with a castillian culture king or queen. I really need french culture to get the french empire set up. I am really past the point of hard challegnes except on transfers of kingdom on death and also the Holy Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire head is a huge threat. Good thing I have an alliance with him thanks to reggie iv's sister.
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also, totally arranging twin half sisters betrothal to twin brothers in hapsburg germany.
You will only get an alliance from that unless you're able to make that a matrilinal marriage. Though having the king of france as an ally is pretty darn useful
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it also sucks that ive had to basically parcel out duchies to the most loyal counts of the associated de jure duchies instead of an heir because of transferring titles to your heir is the best way to kick the can down the road in terms of too many duchies and demesne penalties.
You will only get an alliance from that unless you're able to make that a matrilinal marriage. Though having the king of france as an ally is pretty darn useful
No, I can call to arms with him now. It's pretty nifty.
I've ruled for more than 10 years but "has ruled for at least 10 years" has a red X.
I did form the Empire of Brittania less than 10 years ago, so maybe that has something to do with it?
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So my cousin marriage arrangement is boned.
King of France: No fertility issues
Heir to Britannia: Homosexual -15% Fertility
Heir to the Kingdom of France (his younger brother): Homosexual -15% Fertility
My youngest daughter: Chaste -15% Fertility.
King of France: No fertility issues
Heir to Britannia: Homosexual -15% Fertility
Heir to the Kingdom of France (his younger brother): Homosexual -15% Fertility
My youngest daughter: Chaste -15% Fertility.
I see succession wars in my future.
I was so wrong. 7 kids between my 2 daughters. So now my heir is ready to inheret the kingdom of france and the empire of britannia in a few years. Not bad. Also, I married the queen of lotharingia had a son but killed him. Soon after Emperor Reginald The Great died and now my daughter with the all important heir is ready to kick ass. Best of all, I betrothed my son to the queen of lotharingia. So now grandpa and grandson are eskimo brothers soon.
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Could anyone advice me on how to avoid the "Wrong government type" penalty on my vassals?
Not really related to the game but I visited the Tretyakov Gallery in Moscow a few weeks ago and found this painting:
The painting and the story behind it made me think of Crusader Kings II.
"Historic sources present disparate accounts of Ivan's complex personality: he was described as intelligent and devout, yet given to rages and prone to episodic outbreaks of mental illness. On one such outburst he killed his groomed and chosen heir Ivan Ivanovich. This left the Tsardom to be passed to Ivan's younger son, the weak and intellectually disabled Feodor Ivanovich."
It wouldn't surprise me if someone in this thread by accident killed of the wrong son. I know I have a hard time keeping track of the names of relatives in this game.
Could anyone advice me on how to avoid the "Wrong government type" penalty on my vassals?
That comes from being a Fuedal lord and having non-baron mayor/bishop(or equivalent) vassals. To avoid it make sure to never give a count or above title to a mayor or bishop and don't give a mayor/bishop title to someone who is the heir to a count+ title.(If you are Catholic you can give someone a bishopric since bishops are illegible to inherit non-bishop titles, but sometimes it acts weird and other religions can function differently.)
Welp, my Old Gods era Barcelona game has basically come to an end. I was doing well, despite every single time the King of France died Aquitaine got split off, taking half my vassals with it. Capitalized on some civil wars inside the GIANT Sunni empire that controlled all but the northern coast of Spain and all of Africa west of Egypt and grabbed my de jure counties in Spain. Then said empire stopped warring and decided "Hey guys, I want the Kingdom of Aragon, AKA all your shit".
The entirety of the Christian central European powers (France, the Italian Karling trio (Italy, Burgandy, Loth), the German Karling) and the Pope jumped to my aid. The Muslims sent their 27 thousand man doomstack to... Mallorca. Muahaha, they are doomed, clearly. 3 catholic doomstacks/groups, each 19k fighting men strong, marched into my territory, ready to crush the silly heathen lands as they died on the ill-supplied islands...
... until 3 more 27k Sunni doomstacks marched out of southern Spain, killing the entire fighting force of central Europe to the last man within 6 months. Sigh.
Could anyone advice me on how to avoid the "Wrong government type" penalty on my vassals?
That comes from being a Fuedal lord and having non-baron mayor/bishop(or equivalent) vassals. To avoid it make sure to never give a count or above title to a mayor or bishop and don't give a mayor/bishop title to someone who is the heir to a count+ title.(If you are Catholic you can give someone a bishopric since bishops are illegible to inherit non-bishop titles, but sometimes it acts weird and other religions can function differently.)
Also, you'll get the Wrong type of holding in Demense if you holy war an area and it clears out all the old vassals. Make sure you use to the create new vassal option for that. Right click on the picture of the holding and the bottom left button will do the triclk
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I control Britannica and the Scandinavian Empire, as well as most of Holland, and a few other duchies on the north coast of Europe. My first two rulers lived into their late seventies, and I think that my third lasted into her early seventies. I keep skipping generations, and letting granddaughters inherit, to maximize eventual long reign bonuses.
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You play as a feudal lord between 1066 and the early 1400s; it's pretty great. Common problems (and solutions) include murder, assassination, rebellion, invasion, excommunication, imprisonment, execution, holy war, and wedding planning.
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You play as a feudal lord between 1066 and the early 1400s; it's pretty great. Common problems (and solutions) include murder, assassination, rebellions, invasions, excommunication, imprisonment and wedding planning.
sub topics include:
matrilineal marriage and you
crusades around the world in 80 days
i didnt know framing that maid would do that
cousin on cousin incest: the when and whys of courtly love.
Yeah, that all encompasses about 10 minutes of gameplay.
Only ten minutes because it takes that long to get all your dukes to join your plot to see your wife dead.
Yeah, a button that invites all that would agree would be so time saving.
I would personally like an "Order End All Plots" button.
There is so much intraimperial murder once you have 50+ vassals.
Seriously, I just stopped intervening on plots that didn't affect dynasty members.
Quick Question. So the game ends if your dynasty ends, correct? I know EU3 is more about playing the state than a dynasty but i'd love to be of the same dynasty but with a different last name. De normandie is old and tired.
Yeah, that all encompasses about 10 minutes of gameplay.
Only ten minutes because it takes that long to get all your dukes to join your plot to see your wife dead.
Yeah, a button that invites all that would agree would be so time saving.
I would personally like an "Order End All Plots" button.
There is so much intraimperial murder once you have 50+ vassals.
Seriously, I just stopped intervening on plots that didn't affect dynasty members.
Quick Question. So the game ends if your dynasty ends, correct? I know EU3 is more about playing the state than a dynasty but i'd love to be of the same dynasty but with a different last name. De normandie is old and tired.
The game ends if your heir is nondynastic, I believe, so that you can lose even if you have family members kicking around somewhere.
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Yeah, that all encompasses about 10 minutes of gameplay.
Only ten minutes because it takes that long to get all your dukes to join your plot to see your wife dead.
Yeah, a button that invites all that would agree would be so time saving.
I would personally like an "Order End All Plots" button.
There is so much intraimperial murder once you have 50+ vassals.
Seriously, I just stopped intervening on plots that didn't affect dynasty members.
Quick Question. So the game ends if your dynasty ends, correct? I know EU3 is more about playing the state than a dynasty but i'd love to be of the same dynasty but with a different last name. De normandie is old and tired.
The game ends if your heir is nondynastic, I believe, so that you can lose even if you have family members kicking around somewhere.
Like you've run out of male heirs and don't have agnatic-cognatic succession? This must be a really valid condition with smaller start positions because as de normandie it's not happening.
Oh another thing I'd love to search by is traits, so I can find all the lustful people and invited them to my place.
You play as a feudal lord between 1066 and the early 1400s; it's pretty great. Common problems (and solutions) include murder, assassination, rebellions, invasions, excommunication, imprisonment and wedding planning.
sub topics include:
matrilineal marriage and you
crusades around the world in 80 days
i didnt know framing that maid would do that
cousin on cousin incest: the when and whys of courtly love.
Yeah, that all encompasses about 10 minutes of gameplay.
Only ten minutes because it takes that long to get all your dukes to join your plot to see your wife dead.
Yeah, a button that invites all that would agree would be so time saving.
I would personally like an "Order End All Plots" button.
There is so much intraimperial murder once you have 50+ vassals.
Seriously, I just stopped intervening on plots that didn't affect dynasty members.
Quick Question. So the game ends if your dynasty ends, correct? I know EU3 is more about playing the state than a dynasty but i'd love to be of the same dynasty but with a different last name. De normandie is old and tired.
The game ends if your heir is nondynastic, I believe, so that you can lose even if you have family members kicking around somewhere.
Correct, you will get a notification if this is the case and your heir will be in red.
You play as a feudal lord between 1066 and the early 1400s; it's pretty great. Common problems (and solutions) include murder, assassination, rebellions, invasions, excommunication, imprisonment and wedding planning.
sub topics include:
matrilineal marriage and you
crusades around the world in 80 days
i didnt know framing that maid would do that
cousin on cousin incest: the when and whys of courtly love.
101 ways assassination can solve your problems!
I had an ambitious Duchess who was always upset and often plotting one thing or another, but she never gave me a good excuse to get rid of her without taking an opinion hit.
She murdered my wife! And it's very odd that the game does not allow you to imprison your wife's killer without an opinion penalty.
But I kept ordering assassinations until one of them worked; all the public botched assassinations were a problem with my other vassals for years but I was sick of that Duchess, and it was worth seeing her buried.
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I'd really like to have something like 15 children from 4 wives or something so I have a huge sprawling dynasty.
Now that I've transitioned from Strong Heir Duke to No Holdings Heir it's a different game. Having a ton of different dukes makes some things easier like preventing dangerous factions but it makes one thing a huge pain in the ass. Changing your legal levies and taxes are a PITA. Its actually a lot easier to make crown changes like succession type etc because there are less vassals to keep in positive relationship but it makes any other change horrible to get through.
I also like having a Strong Heir Duke mostly because it makes rallying troops much easier organizationally.
I just got a few territories in andalucia thanks to a crusade i was the main person in. I went from a 9 demesne to a 34 demesne. I had to invite a ton of nobles to court to handle the situation but the future looks bright:
Son: Heir to Empire of Britania, Kingdom of England, Kingdom of Ireland, Kingdom of Scotland, King Kingdom of Brittany, Kingdom of France, Kingdom of Castille. King of Lothrangia. Heir to a ton of duchies, too numerous to name.
I love that I already have a grandson, although my current queen and king need to give up the ghost so I can get the ball rolling on taking out the byzantines and khans with my newly minted huge empire. I feel that with a huge empire I'll be spending the majority of time on pause.
You play as a feudal lord between 1066 and the early 1400s; it's pretty great. Common problems (and solutions) include murder, assassination, rebellions, invasions, excommunication, imprisonment and wedding planning.
sub topics include:
matrilineal marriage and you
crusades around the world in 80 days
i didnt know framing that maid would do that
cousin on cousin incest: the when and whys of courtly love.
101 ways assassination can solve your problems!
I had an ambitious Duchess who was always upset and often plotting one thing or another, but she never gave me a good excuse to get rid of her without taking an opinion hit.
She murdered my wife! And it's very odd that the game does not allow you to imprison your wife's killer without an opinion penalty.
But I kept ordering assassinations until one of them worked; all the public botched assassinations were a problem with my other vassals for years but I was sick of that Duchess, and it was worth seeing her buried.
The easiest way (thought it take a lot of time), is to raise all her levies and move them far away from you (to like, the middle easy or something). Eventually her "Levies raised too long" penalty will be so high she'll revolt, and with her levies so far off, either they'll take forever to get back or she's disband them and take a near-100% attrition loss before she can raise them again. You, in the mean time, can raise your personal levies and stomp her. Other vassals don't care, and when the revolt is over, you can banish or execute her.
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Failing that I might be able to kill my way into the line of succession of that if it doesnt work out. I also hate that if it doesnt work out i might still have to deal with a castillian culture king or queen. I really need french culture to get the french empire set up. I am really past the point of hard challegnes except on transfers of kingdom on death and also the Holy Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire head is a huge threat. Good thing I have an alliance with him thanks to reggie iv's sister.
No, I can call to arms with him now. It's pretty nifty.
Which makes sense, seeing how the longbow was a welsh invention that the English turned into the most powerful combat weapon at the time.
Long live the King, baby.
I've ruled for more than 10 years but "has ruled for at least 10 years" has a red X.
I did form the Empire of Brittania less than 10 years ago, so maybe that has something to do with it?
King of France: No fertility issues
Heir to Britannia: Homosexual -15% Fertility
Heir to the Kingdom of France (his younger brother): Homosexual -15% Fertility
My youngest daughter: Chaste -15% Fertility.
I see succession wars in my future.
Yup, you have to have held that title - empire of brittania is not kingdom of england
I was so wrong. 7 kids between my 2 daughters. So now my heir is ready to inheret the kingdom of france and the empire of britannia in a few years. Not bad. Also, I married the queen of lotharingia had a son but killed him. Soon after Emperor Reginald The Great died and now my daughter with the all important heir is ready to kick ass. Best of all, I betrothed my son to the queen of lotharingia. So now grandpa and grandson are eskimo brothers soon.
I've never taken control of so much land or created an empire before, so a lot of this stuff is new to me.
Something great and terrible. It creates madness and rage and makes grown men cry. It's labyrinthine in depth, terrifying in breadth. Good and godly people playing it fall into ways of tyranny, murder, deceit, treachery, incest, hedonism, and intolerance, grasping for just a little more power.
Here there be dragons, and the dragons are us.
Not really related to the game but I visited the Tretyakov Gallery in Moscow a few weeks ago and found this painting:
The painting and the story behind it made me think of Crusader Kings II.
"Historic sources present disparate accounts of Ivan's complex personality: he was described as intelligent and devout, yet given to rages and prone to episodic outbreaks of mental illness. On one such outburst he killed his groomed and chosen heir Ivan Ivanovich. This left the Tsardom to be passed to Ivan's younger son, the weak and intellectually disabled Feodor Ivanovich."
It wouldn't surprise me if someone in this thread by accident killed of the wrong son. I know I have a hard time keeping track of the names of relatives in this game.
That comes from being a Fuedal lord and having non-baron mayor/bishop(or equivalent) vassals. To avoid it make sure to never give a count or above title to a mayor or bishop and don't give a mayor/bishop title to someone who is the heir to a count+ title.(If you are Catholic you can give someone a bishopric since bishops are illegible to inherit non-bishop titles, but sometimes it acts weird and other religions can function differently.)
The entirety of the Christian central European powers (France, the Italian Karling trio (Italy, Burgandy, Loth), the German Karling) and the Pope jumped to my aid. The Muslims sent their 27 thousand man doomstack to... Mallorca. Muahaha, they are doomed, clearly. 3 catholic doomstacks/groups, each 19k fighting men strong, marched into my territory, ready to crush the silly heathen lands as they died on the ill-supplied islands...
... until 3 more 27k Sunni doomstacks marched out of southern Spain, killing the entire fighting force of central Europe to the last man within 6 months. Sigh.
Also, you'll get the Wrong type of holding in Demense if you holy war an area and it clears out all the old vassals. Make sure you use to the create new vassal option for that. Right click on the picture of the holding and the bottom left button will do the triclk
I control Britannica and the Scandinavian Empire, as well as most of Holland, and a few other duchies on the north coast of Europe. My first two rulers lived into their late seventies, and I think that my third lasted into her early seventies. I keep skipping generations, and letting granddaughters inherit, to maximize eventual long reign bonuses.
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You play as a feudal lord between 1066 and the early 1400s; it's pretty great. Common problems (and solutions) include murder, assassination, rebellion, invasion, excommunication, imprisonment, execution, holy war, and wedding planning.
sub topics include:
matrilineal marriage and you
crusades around the world in 80 days
i didnt know framing that maid would do that
cousin on cousin incest: the when and whys of courtly love.
Prince Humperdinck's summary of his agenda: fair summary of the spirit of Crusader Kings, y/n?
Only ten minutes because it takes that long to get all your dukes to join your plot to see your wife dead.
Yeah, a button that invites all that would agree would be so time saving.
I would personally like an "Order End All Plots" button.
There is so much intraimperial murder once you have 50+ vassals.
Seriously, I just stopped intervening on plots that didn't affect dynasty members.
Quick Question. So the game ends if your dynasty ends, correct? I know EU3 is more about playing the state than a dynasty but i'd love to be of the same dynasty but with a different last name. De normandie is old and tired.
The game ends if your heir is nondynastic, I believe, so that you can lose even if you have family members kicking around somewhere.
Like you've run out of male heirs and don't have agnatic-cognatic succession? This must be a really valid condition with smaller start positions because as de normandie it's not happening.
Oh another thing I'd love to search by is traits, so I can find all the lustful people and invited them to my place.
Although I don't know this stuff for sure because I usually switch to elective monarchy in every kingdom and bribe people as necessary.
101 ways assassination can solve your problems!
Correct, you will get a notification if this is the case and your heir will be in red.
I had an ambitious Duchess who was always upset and often plotting one thing or another, but she never gave me a good excuse to get rid of her without taking an opinion hit.
She murdered my wife! And it's very odd that the game does not allow you to imprison your wife's killer without an opinion penalty.
But I kept ordering assassinations until one of them worked; all the public botched assassinations were a problem with my other vassals for years but I was sick of that Duchess, and it was worth seeing her buried.
Now that I've transitioned from Strong Heir Duke to No Holdings Heir it's a different game. Having a ton of different dukes makes some things easier like preventing dangerous factions but it makes one thing a huge pain in the ass. Changing your legal levies and taxes are a PITA. Its actually a lot easier to make crown changes like succession type etc because there are less vassals to keep in positive relationship but it makes any other change horrible to get through.
I also like having a Strong Heir Duke mostly because it makes rallying troops much easier organizationally.
I just got a few territories in andalucia thanks to a crusade i was the main person in. I went from a 9 demesne to a 34 demesne. I had to invite a ton of nobles to court to handle the situation but the future looks bright:
Son: Heir to Empire of Britania, Kingdom of England, Kingdom of Ireland, Kingdom of Scotland, King Kingdom of Brittany, Kingdom of France, Kingdom of Castille. King of Lothrangia. Heir to a ton of duchies, too numerous to name.
I love that I already have a grandson, although my current queen and king need to give up the ghost so I can get the ball rolling on taking out the byzantines and khans with my newly minted huge empire. I feel that with a huge empire I'll be spending the majority of time on pause.
The easiest way (thought it take a lot of time), is to raise all her levies and move them far away from you (to like, the middle easy or something). Eventually her "Levies raised too long" penalty will be so high she'll revolt, and with her levies so far off, either they'll take forever to get back or she's disband them and take a near-100% attrition loss before she can raise them again. You, in the mean time, can raise your personal levies and stomp her. Other vassals don't care, and when the revolt is over, you can banish or execute her.