So as Tengri Carpathia I keep having my brother the king of hungary join independence factions. I thought that wasn't a thing for same culture de jure vassals anymore?
So as Tengri Carpathia I keep having my brother the king of hungary join independence factions. I thought that wasn't a thing for same culture de jure vassals anymore?
Kings can join independence factions regardless. Handing out big kingdoms can be risky as a result, though I didn't have much problem an earlier patch handing out kingdoms that were a couple of duchies large or less.
1066 Ireland is basically the tutorial...Spain grants almost instant action, but at the risk of easily losing the game within the first few years if you fuck up, or are just unlucky.
As an example my Spain game started with Galicia, and due to bad decisions I was quickly overrun by invading muslims and lost over half of my holdings. Which left me to sit in my castle for years of game time upgrading buildings and hoping the AI wouldn't finish me. Eventually I broke out and ended up building Portugal, but it was a long wait.
I hear that Ireland is a little harder, now that there's Norse running around. Though I'm not sure how much that applies to 1066.
The Norse thing only applies to TOG start I think.
Yeah but another great thing I've found with Elective is that I can minimize the number/length of regencies. Usually while the son or daughter I want to inherit matures I'll put forward my younger brother or other kinsman as a contingency plan in case I die young. Sometimes I'll have my brother as a vassal anyways so it works out.
Ireland is good in 1066. The Old Gods start will likely get you swamped with Vikings.
Also, treat your first few games with a Dwarf Fortress "losing is fun mentality". Paradox tutorials tell you how to do somethings and not others, and never instill when you should do something. Learn from your mistakes.
Also savescum (abuse the save system) your first few games. It will help learn what are the consequences of certain actions. When I started, I'd save at some decisions just to see what all the options did.
I've only been save scumming for 2 things:
Seeing what crown changes would produce in terms of heir eligibility.
Obvious bonehead moves like forgetting to build stuff when I could, raising armies in the wrong county during an invasion, not making changes to the crown that I wanted to but forgot about.
I do a third, depending on the game: if I die before I managed to make the changes to succession laws that I intended to make. It's not an every-game thing, some games I'm fine with it. But some games, my goal is to do something very specific like "rule Denmark while controlling all of Sjaelland and Slesvig as my demesne," and Gavelkind means that there's going to be some serious tyranny about to happen.
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Muslims are so damn fun. I thought I had it made building up power as a Welsh Duke, but being able to Holy War huge chunks of land and having a casus belli on every province that borders you is amazing. Just make sure to imprison and execute every male relative that's not a direct descendent of your king (and probably some who are! 4 wives you know) and decadence is never a problem.
Muslims are so damn fun. I thought I had it made building up power as a Welsh Duke, but being able to Holy War huge chunks of land and having a casus belli on every province that borders you is amazing. Just make sure to imprison and execute every male relative that's not a direct descendent of your king (and probably some who are! 4 wives you know) and decadence is never a problem.
Generally speaking, it seems like non-Catholic rulers get more powerful casus belli in exchange for not being as readily able to manipulate marriages for titles.
Muslims are so damn fun. I thought I had it made building up power as a Welsh Duke, but being able to Holy War huge chunks of land and having a casus belli on every province that borders you is amazing. Just make sure to imprison and execute every male relative that's not a direct descendent of your king (and probably some who are! 4 wives you know) and decadence is never a problem.
Generally speaking, it seems like non-Catholic rulers get more powerful casus belli in exchange for not being as readily able to manipulate marriages for titles.
Non-Christian. There is Orthodox and Miaphysite.
Also I think they wanted each "group" to play differently and have unique playstyles and mechanics.
Speaking of Muslim inheritance, my professor told me last semester that later on the Ottoman's would lock up the successor's close relatives to prevent a succession crises. Problem was, after the successor died, the next in line had spent most of his adult life inside a enlightenment prison. Fun stuff.
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So my lesbian empress has a new scheme now that her son is the king of france:
Invite older homosexual gentlemen to marry me so that they can live out the rest of their days without fear of exposure or threat.
So my lesbian empress has a new scheme now that her son is the king of france:
Invite older homosexual gentlemen to marry me so that they can live out the rest of their days without fear of exposure or threat.
Very decent of you.
Needs counterbalancing, better murder some claimant babies or something.
Well by the morality of the times, this is like, the worst thing one could do in medieval times short of summoning Satan himself to earth.
Making England Sodom 2.0 will not go over well with anyone. There will be lots of killing.
Come to think of it, I never played as a homosexual in CK2. Are there negative modifiers or clergy and zealous members of the court, events to attempt to hide one's sexuality, or even events to take on same sex partners behind your spouses back?
So my lesbian empress has a new scheme now that her son is the king of france:
Invite older homosexual gentlemen to marry me so that they can live out the rest of their days without fear of exposure or threat.
Very decent of you.
Needs counterbalancing, better murder some claimant babies or something.
Well by the morality of the times, this is like, the worst thing one could do in medieval times short of summoning Satan himself to earth.
Making England Sodom 2.0 will not go over well with anyone. There will be lots of killing.
Come to think of it, I never played as a homosexual in CK2. Are there negative modifiers or clergy and zealous members of the court, events to attempt to hide one's sexuality, or even events to take on same sex partners behind your spouses back?
Aside from the fertility modifiers, I think you also get events about being blackmailed if someone discovers your orientation, or you might get outed and suffer opinion hits. I don't remember, it's been ages since my previous homosexual ruler.
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I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
I grabbed the Norse unit/portrait/music pack, but it seems to only be applying to the Norse AI around me. I'm a Lappish king of Finland, but I'm not getting any of the new stuff. I look over at Sweden and Denmark with envy, with their cool viking dudes and all.
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I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
That's probably one of the things I want added most. Something to give the characters a little more personality then just some numbers telling if you are kind or a jerk.
Muslims are so damn fun. I thought I had it made building up power as a Welsh Duke, but being able to Holy War huge chunks of land and having a casus belli on every province that borders you is amazing. Just make sure to imprison and execute every male relative that's not a direct descendent of your king (and probably some who are! 4 wives you know) and decadence is never a problem.
Generally speaking, it seems like non-Catholic rulers get more powerful casus belli in exchange for not being as readily able to manipulate marriages for titles.
Non-Christian. There is Orthodox and Miaphysite.
While not technically tied to their religion, some Orthodox rulers are more likely to be able to reform the Roman Empire and gain access to its special CB. Miaphysites are kind of left hanging in the wind.
I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
That's probably one of the things I want added most. Something to give the characters a little more personality then just some numbers telling if you are kind or a jerk.
Or a secret bear
I did not and will not buy the Aztec expansion.
I would buy Secret Bear.
If only so I can maul courtiers.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
That's probably one of the things I want added most. Something to give the characters a little more personality then just some numbers telling if you are kind or a jerk.
Or a secret bear
I think much more importantly, itd be nice to have some sort of detailed chronology of events and characters that i can look back on at the end of the game and remember fondly.
I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
That's probably one of the things I want added most. Something to give the characters a little more personality then just some numbers telling if you are kind or a jerk.
Or a secret bear
I did not and will not buy the Aztec expansion.
I would buy Secret Bear.
If only so I can maul courtiers.
But Sunset Invasion is good, clean, sacrificing Christians fun!
I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
That's probably one of the things I want added most. Something to give the characters a little more personality then just some numbers telling if you are kind or a jerk.
Or a secret bear
I think much more importantly, itd be nice to have some sort of detailed chronology of events and characters that i can look back on at the end of the game and remember fondly.
Yeah, I really want a few codas to help me remember each ruler.
"Won 3 wars, founded Ireland, established elective monarchy, and died when her heir poisoned her wine."
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I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
That's probably one of the things I want added most. Something to give the characters a little more personality then just some numbers telling if you are kind or a jerk.
Or a secret bear
I did not and will not buy the Aztec expansion.
I would buy Secret Bear.
If only so I can maul courtiers.
I actually bought the Sunset Invasion Dlc, just so I could play as the Aztec properly. Sadly, you have to cheat yourself to money as you don't get the free troops like you do the mongols.
Maybe if I choose the ruler of Nantes and change his religion to Aztec, would it seem more "historical" correct (he starts the game with 3-4k troops.
I grabbed the Norse unit/portrait/music pack, but it seems to only be applying to the Norse AI around me. I'm a Lappish king of Finland, but I'm not getting any of the new stuff. I look over at Sweden and Denmark with envy, with their cool viking dudes and all.
Have you converted to Norse? By default Finland is a different culture.
I'd love it if the next expansion focused on events actually. I don't even mean historical events either (although that'd be cool too), I just want more personal events.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
That's probably one of the things I want added most. Something to give the characters a little more personality then just some numbers telling if you are kind or a jerk.
Or a secret bear
I think much more importantly, itd be nice to have some sort of detailed chronology of events and characters that i can look back on at the end of the game and remember fondly.
Yeah, I really want a few codas to help me remember each ruler.
"Won 3 wars, founded Ireland, established elective monarchy, and died when her heir poisoned her wine."
EU3 has got it's history screen, and Vic2 its newspapers, but CK2 has nothing. I always wished that PDS would further develop this side of the game, as it's really fun to read about the eccentricities of real life rulers as is.
Thing about EU3 is that it is the last of their previous-gen 2D-engine Grand Strategy games that they haven't yet updated, so it's got an older feel to it even with all the expansions. I find it to be a lot of fun, but I found that it was bit too easy to blob up without thinking of the consequences. Overextension does exist, but barring a dynastic change or something my armed forces were always big enough to take out rebels. It suffers from that difficulty curve that PDS games do of being challenging and fun at the beginning but too easy and boring as time goes on. What I love about it though is the fact that the Middle/Far-East has not yet been colonized or anything, so you can situations where you can build up Persia, India, China or Japan into big powers locally.\
CK2 I like but I always find it weird that your leader is some sort of omniscient interpersonal god able to instantly divine each and every characteristic of everyone in or not in his or her court. I think all PDS games are a lot more fun with house rules though, since I've only really played Ireland (Munster-Ireland-Brittania), I haven't figured out what makes it fun.
So what should I play next for my second game of CK2? I kind of want something a lot harder than Ireland.
A minor duke in one of the empires, or a Christian in Spain. If you don't want endless holy wars from the start and still want to be independent, one of the Russian dukes, or somewhere in Scandinavia
Thing about EU3 is that it is the last of their previous-gen 2D-engine Grand Strategy games that they haven't yet updated, so it's got an older feel to it even with all the expansions. I find it to be a lot of fun, but I found that it was bit too easy to blob up without thinking of the consequences. Overextension does exist, but barring a dynastic change or something my armed forces were always big enough to take out rebels. It suffers from that difficulty curve that PDS games do of being challenging and fun at the beginning but too easy and boring as time goes on. What I love about it though is the fact that the Middle/Far-East has not yet been colonized or anything, so you can situations where you can build up Persia, India, China or Japan into big powers locally.\
CK2 I like but I always find it weird that your leader is some sort of omniscient interpersonal god able to instantly divine each and every characteristic of everyone in or not in his or her court. I think all PDS games are a lot more fun with house rules though, since I've only really played Ireland (Munster-Ireland-Brittania), I haven't figured out what makes it fun.
So what should I play next for my second game of CK2? I kind of want something a lot harder than Ireland.
I'll second one of the Christian rulers in Spain. Barcelona in particular gives you a nice starting position isolated from the sibling rivalry of the Jimena kings and gives you the feeling of building up to a king title. You have plenty of Muslim rulers you can holy war but have to balance that with the possibility of them rallying together against you yet have to expand before the Muslims blob up.
I grabbed the Norse unit/portrait/music pack, but it seems to only be applying to the Norse AI around me. I'm a Lappish king of Finland, but I'm not getting any of the new stuff. I look over at Sweden and Denmark with envy, with their cool viking dudes and all.
Have you converted to Norse? By default Finland is a different culture.
I don't actually own The Old Gods yet (waiting on a 75% sale). So all of Scandinavia is Catholic at this point. But the Catholic Danes, Swedes, and Norwegians still get the Norse unit graphics and faces. I wonder if the triggers are only set on those three culture sets and not on the Finno- cultures. Maybe I can fix that in a settings file somewhere...
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The best is when you're beating up a Caliph so badly that his vassals start rebelling into a cascade failure of vulnerable emirates.
Kings can join independence factions regardless. Handing out big kingdoms can be risky as a result, though I didn't have much problem an earlier patch handing out kingdoms that were a couple of duchies large or less.
I hear that Ireland is a little harder, now that there's Norse running around. Though I'm not sure how much that applies to 1066.
Yeah but another great thing I've found with Elective is that I can minimize the number/length of regencies. Usually while the son or daughter I want to inherit matures I'll put forward my younger brother or other kinsman as a contingency plan in case I die young. Sometimes I'll have my brother as a vassal anyways so it works out.
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I do a third, depending on the game: if I die before I managed to make the changes to succession laws that I intended to make. It's not an every-game thing, some games I'm fine with it. But some games, my goal is to do something very specific like "rule Denmark while controlling all of Sjaelland and Slesvig as my demesne," and Gavelkind means that there's going to be some serious tyranny about to happen.
Whoo kingdom of Cyprus!
Generally speaking, it seems like non-Catholic rulers get more powerful casus belli in exchange for not being as readily able to manipulate marriages for titles.
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Non-Christian. There is Orthodox and Miaphysite.
Also I think they wanted each "group" to play differently and have unique playstyles and mechanics.
Speaking of Muslim inheritance, my professor told me last semester that later on the Ottoman's would lock up the successor's close relatives to prevent a succession crises. Problem was, after the successor died, the next in line had spent most of his adult life inside a enlightenment prison. Fun stuff.
Invite older homosexual gentlemen to marry me so that they can live out the rest of their days without fear of exposure or threat.
Very decent of you.
Needs counterbalancing, better murder some claimant babies or something.
Well by the morality of the times, this is like, the worst thing one could do in medieval times short of summoning Satan himself to earth.
Making England Sodom 2.0 will not go over well with anyone. There will be lots of killing.
Come to think of it, I never played as a homosexual in CK2. Are there negative modifiers or clergy and zealous members of the court, events to attempt to hide one's sexuality, or even events to take on same sex partners behind your spouses back?
Aside from the fertility modifiers, I think you also get events about being blackmailed if someone discovers your orientation, or you might get outed and suffer opinion hits. I don't remember, it's been ages since my previous homosexual ruler.
More all sorts of random events, maybe "storylines" composed of several events, possibly months or years apart, etc. Fleshing out the interpersonal stuff too.
That's probably one of the things I want added most. Something to give the characters a little more personality then just some numbers telling if you are kind or a jerk.
While not technically tied to their religion, some Orthodox rulers are more likely to be able to reform the Roman Empire and gain access to its special CB. Miaphysites are kind of left hanging in the wind.
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I did not and will not buy the Aztec expansion.
I would buy Secret Bear.
If only so I can maul courtiers.
I think much more importantly, itd be nice to have some sort of detailed chronology of events and characters that i can look back on at the end of the game and remember fondly.
But Sunset Invasion is good, clean, sacrificing Christians fun!
Yeah, I really want a few codas to help me remember each ruler.
"Won 3 wars, founded Ireland, established elective monarchy, and died when her heir poisoned her wine."
I actually bought the Sunset Invasion Dlc, just so I could play as the Aztec properly. Sadly, you have to cheat yourself to money as you don't get the free troops like you do the mongols.
Maybe if I choose the ruler of Nantes and change his religion to Aztec, would it seem more "historical" correct (he starts the game with 3-4k troops.
I'd have expected them to put more design effort into their first fantasy DLC.
Have you converted to Norse? By default Finland is a different culture.
EU3 has got it's history screen, and Vic2 its newspapers, but CK2 has nothing. I always wished that PDS would further develop this side of the game, as it's really fun to read about the eccentricities of real life rulers as is.
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This is the only game I can think of where you can be murdered by your firstborn son and not really mind.
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CK2 I like but I always find it weird that your leader is some sort of omniscient interpersonal god able to instantly divine each and every characteristic of everyone in or not in his or her court. I think all PDS games are a lot more fun with house rules though, since I've only really played Ireland (Munster-Ireland-Brittania), I haven't figured out what makes it fun.
So what should I play next for my second game of CK2? I kind of want something a lot harder than Ireland.
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I'll second one of the Christian rulers in Spain. Barcelona in particular gives you a nice starting position isolated from the sibling rivalry of the Jimena kings and gives you the feeling of building up to a king title. You have plenty of Muslim rulers you can holy war but have to balance that with the possibility of them rallying together against you yet have to expand before the Muslims blob up.
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