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Orange Sky (Webcomic)- again
Evergreen215
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So, I have a new webcomic, it's called Orange Sky, and I was looking for some feedback on my artwork. I tried to do this before and made a mistake, so I'm going to be very careful this time and not even provide my website's URL. Here is the first strip and title page:
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Now for the real thing.
You are doing these on paper, scanning them and colouring them on the PC ?
I wont go into any specifics yet, but you are being lazy setting up your scanned images for colouring, example in the third and fourth panel, the "white parts", and the line of the guys jaw, those details have little to do with drawing and more with being patient and careful. Then, if you want we can discuss the characters, colouring, etc.
I still have to scan in the last three panels, and there is text but no word bubbles. I tried to be more careful with the coloring I've done so far.
Also, for the odd white spots when colouring, in the one coloured panel I dont see any problems.
Now, there are a lot of things to improve, and I am anxious to just write pages and pages of advice, but I dont want to rush you.
So, besides panel layout, all I will say is that you could really use some anatomy studies, and I dont mean taking classes, even for stylized drawing, knowing some basic anatomy goes a long way, I see you use some guidelines, I havent been able to identify if you use those guidelines for the whole body or just the head, but that is a good thing, guidelines.
Well, you ARE drawing, and you are wanting to improve, I would say that is as right as it gets.
About the quality of the ilustration, you have a long way to go, but luckily for you, its a VERY fun road, and you will be able to see noticeable improvement fast, without exhausting practice. (it does get tougher and tougher the better you get)
While it may be irrelevant to you, I'm curious about his reasoning for a long neck. I'd appreciate if you didn't undermine other people's questions because you feel that your viewpoint is the most important one to express.
if no one else sees it I will feel so bad about myself
PS: And yes, doesnt look like a really compelling reason to keep a neck that long... not that your comic has become part of some executive board that makes decisions for you, but, you know, a suggesstion.
As far as the figures go: http://www.amazon.com/Figure-Drawing-Invention-Michael-Hampton/dp/0615272819
http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Comics-The-Invisible-Art/dp/006097625X
http://www.amazon.com/Making-Comics-Storytelling-Secrets-Graphic/dp/0060780940/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b
Comics are more complex than they seem. There are some benifits to drawing them while you are learning the basics, mostly that demands that you are skilled in multiple areas. Scott McCloud covers alot of the narrative and mechanics of it (such as why you might put a panel somewhere, and how big it should be) I would recommend his books to any artist getting started with comics.
there are a ton of online resources as well, I would check out the links in the questions/tutorials thread at the top of the board, and start reading and practicing based on what you can find.
Look in a mirror, then take your fingers and run them along your jaw, from your chin back on up until your fingers rest under your earlobe. Notice how the ear sits in relation to the jaw.
In your first panel and the third panel, the ears aren't sitting on any kind of real structure, they are floating somewhere on the side of their heads.
Something that helped me with people drawing was going to a figure drawing class. Not sure how comfortable you are with live naked people, but figure drawing really forces you to become familiar with the human body. This might seem unrelated when it comes to cartoons because they're usually exaggerated versions of realistic bodies, but it will definitely help with things like human shapes, weight distribution, and proportion in general.
Another bit of advice I have for you is to take your time. Comics are deceptively complicated. What seems like a simple panel that someone whipped out in a manner of minutes could have taken them hours. Practice being patient and thorough, especially with your colors. I noticed that the lines looked much better in the incomplete scan you posted than in the colored page in your original post. Both your lines and your colors need to be crisp to form a really solid comic. There are tons of color tutorials out there if you need inspiration or direction.
Keep practicing, and don't stop!
-Carrie
Build your visual library.
-Read books. Draw the things the books describe.
-Observe Nature. Pay attention to how things are actually put together
-Look at your environment. Observe scale.
Compare your comic to successful comics:
-What are they doing that you are not?
-Why is there's better then yours?
-Familiarize yourself with comic strip standards
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No matter what changes you make, you can only improve it if you have practiced. But you probably already know all this and say "I already drew the page" because drawing something twice... you know.... effort. But guess what, drawing takes studying, and studies are repeating the same stuff many times untill you "get it". and only THEN, you set to make a real "piece".
Fantomas has some good points. Your comic wasn't chiselled out of a piece of granite. You have the ability to redraw panels, adjust the panel layout and any number of other items of improvement.
If you really want to improve, you need to put in the time and effort. If you're just doing this for something to pass the time while you're day dreaming in class then that's cool. Just don't expect anyone else to care a whole lot about it.
Have you been spending time trying to find free tutorials online? Have you studied how other comic creators, who are successful, do their panel layouts? It just feels like you had some very valid critiques from your last post and instead of making an effort to utilise the information provided, you've continued along the same path that you were following before you posted here.
What are you looking to accomplish by posting on this forum? I'm not trying to discourage you at all. Please, continue to work on your art and strive for improvements. We as a community just need to try to understand what's going on here so that we can provide help where needed.
If you've been drawing other stuff then by all means post it here so we can see what you've been working on since you last posted your comic. With time you'll see improvement as long as you keep on practising and studying. Some people have natural talent and some people have to work hard at things. If you really enjoy something, though, you should keep on working at it.
It's not great, but I think I'm a bit closer to getting the proportions and such right? Correct me if I'm wrong.
They're rough, and for the most part just pencil.