Got my first missile glitcher in a while on Platinum today. We were playing for real and everything. Pissed me off. Gonna report him after making this post.
Went through a few more matches (without that guy) and tensions were really high after we wiped on Wave 6 of Platinum - gotta hate Activate 4 Things waves, right? Also Ravagers.
To smooth things over I switched us to Gold/Geth/Hydra, and told everyone to bring krogan vanguards. One guy said it was a stupid idea but went along with it anyway.
Man, nothing smooths over hurt feelings like an all krogan vanguard match against the geth.
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Rate of fire + weapon damage bonuses between Hunter Vision and the passive on top of the Piranha's incredible damage output just shred.
Drop the damage resistance debuff on proximity mine and someone that's quite good and yeah, it's believable.
I went with power damage instead (I love me my proximity mines), and I can still smash down even heavies relatively quickly.
i have had gold rounds on my GI where nobody scored more than 60k
the game awards points in a wacky way, i'm convinced there's some RNG bullshit involved
I've done some tests on this.
It's because at Gold and above, there is more damage to be done than points awarded for the kill.
For example, if a cannibal has 700 health points, but only 500 score points for a kill, the person who killed the cannibal will get all of the points for the damage they did.
Here's an example:
Player 1 kills a cannibal having inflicted 400 points of damage to the enemy. Player 2 assists with 300 damage points. As there is only 500 score points to be dished out, player 1 gets 400 points and player 2 only gets 100.
This might not be 100% accurate but points for assists are DEFINITELY significantly downgraded at gold and platinum. Silver is ok though.
Particle rifle kinda sucks against groups of little dudes, especially when you're dealing with lag, but it's pretty awesome against big bosses. Put extended mag and armor piercing on there and you can deal full damage to a prime all the way across the map.
You'll probably want a sidearm that's good at close range though, because for the first 40 ammo it doesn't do much damage
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i have had gold rounds on my GI where nobody scored more than 60k
the game awards points in a wacky way, i'm convinced there's some RNG bullshit involved
I've done some tests on this.
It's because at Gold and above, there is more damage to be done than points awarded for the kill.
For example, if a cannibal has 700 health points, but only 500 score points for a kill, the person who killed the cannibal will get all of the points for the damage they did.
Here's an example:
Player 1 kills a cannibal having inflicted 400 points of damage to the enemy. Player 2 assists with 300 damage points. As there is only 500 score points to be dished out, player 1 gets 400 points and player 2 only gets 100.
This might not be 100% accurate but points for assists are DEFINITELY significantly downgraded at gold and platinum. Silver is ok though.
It's probably just me, but it also seems kinda lag dependent
i have had gold rounds on my GI where nobody scored more than 60k
the game awards points in a wacky way, i'm convinced there's some RNG bullshit involved
I've done some tests on this.
It's because at Gold and above, there is more damage to be done than points awarded for the kill.
For example, if a cannibal has 700 health points, but only 500 score points for a kill, the person who killed the cannibal will get all of the points for the damage they did.
Here's an example:
Player 1 kills a cannibal having inflicted 400 points of damage to the enemy. Player 2 assists with 300 damage points. As there is only 500 score points to be dished out, player 1 gets 400 points and player 2 only gets 100.
This might not be 100% accurate but points for assists are DEFINITELY significantly downgraded at gold and platinum. Silver is ok though.
It's probably just me, but it also seems kinda lag dependent
Maybe, but I really notice it with a salgineer on Gold or Platinum. I take all of the shields and barriers off everything and get like 50 points per assist.
Remember there was one game where I got 50 assists before Wave 3 had finished. Was mental.
Somebody told me that the Particle Beam Rifle's extended magaizne at higher levels makes it a good gun
That seems like the kind of buff that would only be appreciated by the dudes on BSN and like three guys on here
On my Destroyer with extended mag mod it had 269 shots. Its better than the Typhoon.
For truth? I mean.... truly? Why? How much does the damage ramp-up increase things?
Its more to do with how overly nerfed the Typhoon is now. Typhoon operates a bit better from medium to short range, but the PBR beats it at everything else. Most particularly the killing of boss mobs.
how the hell do you even get 220k in a game without hacking to give you more rounds
Clearly by getting to the spawns before anyone else had a chance. Or by being like curly or carbon or something
I mean, the guy was good, but the amount of damage he could do in a short amount of time (cloak bonus + piranha fire rate) was just completely dumb. Brutes would be walking toward us and then they'd just... be dead. Not that brutes are that hard to kill anyway, but still.
I play on the 360 so I guess it's possible he was using a hack, but doubtful
on my vorcha soilder, i can kill a brute on platinum in 3 seconds flat. flamer while the geth shotgun is charging, release half way through burning, shit is just toast.
Quad damage at 800 RPM? Christ's sake, that's actually a good wad of damage - about the same as the dang old Typhoon, but without the missing problem or the kick
Somebody told me that the Particle Beam Rifle's extended magaizne at higher levels makes it a good gun
That seems like the kind of buff that would only be appreciated by the dudes on BSN and like three guys on here
On my Destroyer with extended mag mod it had 269 shots. Its better than the Typhoon.
For truth? I mean.... truly? Why? How much does the damage ramp-up increase things?
Its more to do with how overly nerfed the Typhoon is now. Typhoon operates a bit better from medium to short range, but the PBR beats it at everything else. Most particularly the killing of boss mobs.
For half the weight.
And infinite ammo.
Bioware nerfed the typhoon way too harshly.
The BEAM RIFLE has always been the best UR AR since forever because it shoots a infinite beam of awesome.
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i have had gold rounds on my GI where nobody scored more than 60k
the game awards points in a wacky way, i'm convinced there's some RNG bullshit involved
I've done some tests on this.
It's because at Gold and above, there is more damage to be done than points awarded for the kill.
For example, if a cannibal has 700 health points, but only 500 score points for a kill, the person who killed the cannibal will get all of the points for the damage they did.
Here's an example:
Player 1 kills a cannibal having inflicted 400 points of damage to the enemy. Player 2 assists with 300 damage points. As there is only 500 score points to be dished out, player 1 gets 400 points and player 2 only gets 100.
This might not be 100% accurate but points for assists are DEFINITELY significantly downgraded at gold and platinum. Silver is ok though.
This seems really plausible. If it's true, it's something Bioware should look into for the next patch and up the score numbers depending on the difficulty.
i have had gold rounds on my GI where nobody scored more than 60k
the game awards points in a wacky way, i'm convinced there's some RNG bullshit involved
I've done some tests on this.
It's because at Gold and above, there is more damage to be done than points awarded for the kill.
For example, if a cannibal has 700 health points, but only 500 score points for a kill, the person who killed the cannibal will get all of the points for the damage they did.
Here's an example:
Player 1 kills a cannibal having inflicted 400 points of damage to the enemy. Player 2 assists with 300 damage points. As there is only 500 score points to be dished out, player 1 gets 400 points and player 2 only gets 100.
This might not be 100% accurate but points for assists are DEFINITELY significantly downgraded at gold and platinum. Silver is ok though.
This seems really plausible. If it's true, it's something Bioware should look into for the next patch and up the score numbers depending on the difficulty.
It would also tend to inflate the scores of the people doing more damage at the expense of the people doing less, which might provide a partial explanation of why some people appear to be so terrible
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Somebody told me that the Particle Beam Rifle's extended magaizne at higher levels makes it a good gun
That seems like the kind of buff that would only be appreciated by the dudes on BSN and like three guys on here
On my Destroyer with extended mag mod it had 269 shots. Its better than the Typhoon.
For truth? I mean.... truly? Why? How much does the damage ramp-up increase things?
Its more to do with how overly nerfed the Typhoon is now. Typhoon operates a bit better from medium to short range, but the PBR beats it at everything else. Most particularly the killing of boss mobs.
For half the weight.
And infinite ammo.
Bioware nerfed the typhoon way too harshly.
The BEAM RIFLE has always been the best UR AR since forever because it shoots a infinite beam of awesome.
No it hasn't always been, but it is probably the second best AR since it has received 2 10% damage buffs and an 80% ammo buff.
The fact that its perfectly accurate and has 100% stability is just kicking sand in the poor Typhoon's face.
I'd be interested in seeing the usage rate of the Typhoon post-nerf. I still see people equipping it from time to time but I don't recall too many times when they scored all that well.
Was there another Typhoon nerf I missed? Last time I used it it was still perfectly fine. It's less of an oppressively powerful gun and more of a variant on the Revenant which is kinda what it should have been from the start.
If it got nerfed again then that's just horseshit.
Was there another Typhoon nerf I missed? Last time I used it it was still perfectly fine. It's less of an oppressively powerful gun and more of a variant on the Revenant which is kinda what it should have been from the start.
If it got nerfed again then that's just horseshit.
No not more nerfs but people have had a longer time to evaluate it post-nerf. It is the worst UR AR at the moment by a good margin. It also has a bug where its 50% bonus to armor/shield/barriers doesnt work more often than not.
Was there another Typhoon nerf I missed? Last time I used it it was still perfectly fine. It's less of an oppressively powerful gun and more of a variant on the Revenant which is kinda what it should have been from the start.
If it got nerfed again then that's just horseshit.
nah, it didn't get nerfed again. people are just emo.
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Nah, the blur gives me headaches so I usually just avoid the geth classes entirely. Always had fun with GPS + flamethrower turret though, and overload is pretty useful since enemies can't dodge it 10 times in a row.
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The Typhoon wasn't nerfed in the way the Krysae was. The Typhoon just performs at the Rare* level, not the Ultra Rare level it actually is. The crux of the issue is the 2.0 spin-up damage modifier which dropped to 1.5. A comfortable spot would be ~1.75.
*If someone wanted to contend that I wouldn't disagree out of hand.
The Typhoon is rather middling. I only use it on Silver or Bronze. It's an ultra rare weapon that's average at best. But if you wanted to take good weapons you're looking at Shotguns. You've got the Graal, GPS, Reegar, and Piranha. Not to mention the UR Wraith. The damage decrease to the Piranha was the best balance I've seen. The weapon is still good, which makes sense for being rare, and great with certain characters.
EDIT: Apparently the Typhoon's innate armor damage bonus doesn't work sometimes. So, yeah. That's not good. And that needs a patch. If we get a patch, it probably wont be fixed, because Bioware.
i can't be the only one who only put three ranks into hunter mode on geth engi because it gives them headaches, right?
It was the first thing I maxed.
Running a 3 on Fitness? Wouldn't that be a bad idea with Hunter Mode activated?
Only if you're getting hit. Between Gethovision alerting you of incoming enemies, a turret to keep them occupied, and overload to keep them stunned it's usually not a problem.
The Typhoon wasn't nerfed in the way the Krysae was. The Typhoon just performs at the Rare* level, not the Ultra Rare level it actually is. The crux of the issue is the 2.0 spin-up damage modifier which dropped to 1.5. A comfortable spot would be ~1.75.
*If someone wanted to contend that I wouldn't disagree out of hand.
The Typhoon is rather middling. I only use it on Silver or Bronze. It's an ultra rare weapon that's average at best. But if you wanted to take good weapons you're looking at Shotguns. You've got the Graal, GPS, Reegar, and Piranha. Not to mention the UR Wraith. The damage decrease to the Piranha was the best balance I've seen. The weapon is still good, which makes sense for being rare, and great with certain characters.
EDIT: Apparently the Typhoon's innate armor damage bonus doesn't work sometimes. So, yeah. That's not good. And that needs a patch. If we get a patch, it probably wont be fixed, because Bioware.
Except the Piranha as it stands is overpowered. Its DPS is through the roof.
The GPS is as well; too useful at all ranges, too powerful when charged and used inside cloak.
The Reegar is just bananas.
Curly is right, Bioware loves shotguns.
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As they should.
I get tired of shotguns being shit in video games.
i can't be the only one who only put three ranks into hunter mode on geth engi because it gives them headaches, right?
It was the first thing I maxed.
Running a 3 on Fitness? Wouldn't that be a bad idea with Hunter Mode activated?
Only if you're getting hit. Between Gethovision alerting you of incoming enemies, a turret to keep them occupied, and overload to keep them stunned it's usually not a problem.
Good point.
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though i feel like some of the new additions might make it more serviceable
Drell Adept is one of my most often played characters. Was playing the Drell Vanguard earlier today for the first time in a long while. Paired with the Acolyte it's a good bit of fun versus Cerberus. Pull all the things.
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Got my first missile glitcher in a while on Platinum today. We were playing for real and everything. Pissed me off. Gonna report him after making this post.
Went through a few more matches (without that guy) and tensions were really high after we wiped on Wave 6 of Platinum - gotta hate Activate 4 Things waves, right? Also Ravagers.
To smooth things over I switched us to Gold/Geth/Hydra, and told everyone to bring krogan vanguards. One guy said it was a stupid idea but went along with it anyway.
Man, nothing smooths over hurt feelings like an all krogan vanguard match against the geth.
Drop the damage resistance debuff on proximity mine and someone that's quite good and yeah, it's believable.
I went with power damage instead (I love me my proximity mines), and I can still smash down even heavies relatively quickly.
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That seems like the kind of buff that would only be appreciated by the dudes on BSN and like three guys on here
I've done some tests on this.
It's because at Gold and above, there is more damage to be done than points awarded for the kill.
For example, if a cannibal has 700 health points, but only 500 score points for a kill, the person who killed the cannibal will get all of the points for the damage they did.
Here's an example:
Player 1 kills a cannibal having inflicted 400 points of damage to the enemy. Player 2 assists with 300 damage points. As there is only 500 score points to be dished out, player 1 gets 400 points and player 2 only gets 100.
This might not be 100% accurate but points for assists are DEFINITELY significantly downgraded at gold and platinum. Silver is ok though.
On my Destroyer with extended mag mod it had 269 shots. Its better than the Typhoon.
You'll probably want a sidearm that's good at close range though, because for the first 40 ammo it doesn't do much damage
Maybe, but I really notice it with a salgineer on Gold or Platinum. I take all of the shields and barriers off everything and get like 50 points per assist.
Remember there was one game where I got 50 assists before Wave 3 had finished. Was mental.
For truth? I mean.... truly? Why? How much does the damage ramp-up increase things?
Its more to do with how overly nerfed the Typhoon is now. Typhoon operates a bit better from medium to short range, but the PBR beats it at everything else. Most particularly the killing of boss mobs.
For half the weight.
And infinite ammo.
Bioware nerfed the typhoon way too harshly.
on my vorcha soilder, i can kill a brute on platinum in 3 seconds flat. flamer while the geth shotgun is charging, release half way through burning, shit is just toast.
I still don't have the gun though, alas
The BEAM RIFLE has always been the best UR AR since forever because it shoots a infinite beam of awesome.
This seems really plausible. If it's true, it's something Bioware should look into for the next patch and up the score numbers depending on the difficulty.
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i guess they must be more popular on consoles
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It would also tend to inflate the scores of the people doing more damage at the expense of the people doing less, which might provide a partial explanation of why some people appear to be so terrible
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No it hasn't always been, but it is probably the second best AR since it has received 2 10% damage buffs and an 80% ammo buff.
The fact that its perfectly accurate and has 100% stability is just kicking sand in the poor Typhoon's face.
If it got nerfed again then that's just horseshit.
No not more nerfs but people have had a longer time to evaluate it post-nerf. It is the worst UR AR at the moment by a good margin. It also has a bug where its 50% bonus to armor/shield/barriers doesnt work more often than not.
There is an interesting thread on BSN but skip the first 4 pages:
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13726258/7
nah, it didn't get nerfed again. people are just emo.
nah
I go 6/6/6/5/3. It's the only way to go.
I hope you are, 'cuz it is the best
the best
it's too blurry and awful and if i ever activate it it's because i'm on geth/white/gold behind cover
*If someone wanted to contend that I wouldn't disagree out of hand.
The Typhoon is rather middling. I only use it on Silver or Bronze. It's an ultra rare weapon that's average at best. But if you wanted to take good weapons you're looking at Shotguns. You've got the Graal, GPS, Reegar, and Piranha. Not to mention the UR Wraith. The damage decrease to the Piranha was the best balance I've seen. The weapon is still good, which makes sense for being rare, and great with certain characters.
EDIT: Apparently the Typhoon's innate armor damage bonus doesn't work sometimes. So, yeah. That's not good. And that needs a patch. If we get a patch, it probably wont be fixed, because Bioware.
Running a 3 on Fitness? Wouldn't that be a bad idea with Hunter Mode activated?
Only if you're getting hit. Between Gethovision alerting you of incoming enemies, a turret to keep them occupied, and overload to keep them stunned it's usually not a problem.
not a fan of that visual effect myself, especially on dark maps because you can't see shit if it's activated on some place like reactor
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Except the Piranha as it stands is overpowered. Its DPS is through the roof.
The GPS is as well; too useful at all ranges, too powerful when charged and used inside cloak.
The Reegar is just bananas.
Curly is right, Bioware loves shotguns.
I get tired of shotguns being shit in video games.
Shotguns shall inherit the earth!
i don't own a krogan.
the shotgun in HL2? great gun.
the shotgun in FEAR? great gun.
shotguns in mass effect 3? LOTS OF NOT QUITE SHOTGUNS, and now the piranha gives us our conventional option
guys guys do you remember back before ME3 came out and bioware was asking people to tweet which weapons they'd like to see in ME3?
and a BUNCH of people said the AA-12?
the piranha has been in the plans for a LONG-ass time
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Drell Adept is one of my most often played characters. Was playing the Drell Vanguard earlier today for the first time in a long while. Paired with the Acolyte it's a good bit of fun versus Cerberus. Pull all the things.