I'm in the EST time zone, and I plan on picking up the game in the Steam Sale (assuming it goes on sale of course) so I could provide some opposition for you occasionally. I'm out of practice a bit as I haven't played in a few years, but I'm sure it'll come back to me quickly.
I'm MST but keep odd hours so long as its late.... plus i just beat skaven with my new humans team (The Hugh Manns) as they lost connection and conceded... but never-the-less victory! (to be fair to cyanide their random disconnect software can also be used to play blood bowl)
edit: I swear to vishnu chaos are the biggest pussies of ever, game 2 as humans (now with a whopping 1040 tv because i bought an apothecary) matchup vs 1450 chaos... oddly for once i receive drive down the field and start stalling turn 5 because chaos is sitting at a scrum at midfield with my ogre and zug (go star players) as soon as i get a slight edge on blocks (where i finish a turn with all my guys standing up and his down, he stands his guys up, blitzes my ogre and goes for the 28% foul and concedes), for the most part everyone else will at least say gl hf or some variant but not chaos... chaos has only ever said one thing to me... kill... thats it as they surrounded a guy for a turn 16 foul. Most of the community are reasonable-ish, but a certain brand of player just puts on their douche bag cap and goes to town. Why yes Zug the star player of uselessness did get one of the mvps.
That would be an interesting step back from the first Cyanide Blood Bowl game, since that one had a friends list. I mean that game did a lot of things in very weird ways (the interface was such a mess) but it did let you keep a friends list at least.
That would be an interesting step back from the first Cyanide Blood Bowl game, since that one had a friends list. I mean that game did a lot of things in very weird ways (the interface was such a mess) but it did let you keep a friends list at least.
i am honestly not sure, it looks like it pulls up the steam friends list in the friendlies part of the menu,
Feel free to add me on steam I am the only farbekrieg in the list although my profile name says blindy now aka Jake just im me when you're up for a game
edit: Human team game 4 (2 concedes 1 loss to chaos) game vs 1080 orcs not a whole lot of tv on either side i think I was 1040 but with a linemen loaner because 1 of my 2 catchers died vs chaos.
I had six injuries inflicted on me (I had to reroll a blitzer apothecary from -1 mv to miss next game), later my 2nd catcher was also murdered. Just absolutely awful and one of the first games I was outblocked by more than 2 or 3, 46 to 30. but i was losing a guy every 2 turns (counting the 3 kos).
It was even against a fun team 3 goblins and troll who tossed them at my ball carrier which was hilarious even when they hit so I think only 2 black orcs, a thrower, and 4 blitzers. I punched the goblins with my blitzers as hard as I could but I am still getting skulls and pushes, and my 67% dodges fail at an alarming rate i rerolled 3 and all 3 failed. Im only down... um 3 linemen after I bought another catcher after the game so my next game should be pretty awful
edit 2: game 4 vs tv 1440 lizards with 3 loaners and once again uttlery outsmashed. Game ended 3-2 but it was nowhere near that clos as his guard/+str saurus and block/guard remaining sauruses annihilated my team inflicting a niggling on my ogre (hugh arse), murdering the catcher i just bought, murdering hugh jacked man (who replaced hugh jackman (well -1 str so hes gone)), and a loaner grabbed mvp (tho he was -1 mv so umm yeah). e
Im down to 3 blitzers, 3 linemen, 1 catcher, 1 thrower and 80k so i could buy another blitzer maybe? I'm averse to just deleting and starting over but damn.
starting out with a 2-0 loss (technically 1-1 but the first win was a forfeit). just got steamrolled by a lizardman team that had a huge TV bonus. however the TV didn't really matter since i just had guys go down and saurus just had free movement all over the plcae since i never had enough players to mark and do anything of relevance. even had a player just straight up die to a skink block, but at least i was able to apothecary it down to just missing the next game.
i know for sure that i build this team wrong initially, but that was ugly.
Huh, so I picked the game up on a 40% discount in the Winter Sale. Excellent, I can now make with the bowling for blood!
Except . . . the game crashes on startup every single time. I have rebooted after installing, I have given the .exe files administrator privileges (which shouldn't be necessary but it was on the things to try list), I have updated my video card drivers, I have verified file integrity, I have done a repair on Visual C++ 2012. Nothing works.
Interesting to note that my computer thinks that I installed Visual C++ 2012 tomorrow, and I have no idea how that even happens. So I guess I'll wait for the date to roll over and see if it just magically works then?
I'd check for viruses (as they sometimes fuck with the clock), and delete and reinstall the Visual C++ stuff (it could just be corrupt) recheck cache integrity . They are doing some weird patching stuff recently (again cyanide some things just may not work at all)
That said another game vs saurus (this one down a krox) tv 1060 against my 1130 tv (after mercenaries) team. 1-1 tie again the saurus beat the shit out my no skill team (I have 1 blitzer with tackle who did manage to injure 2 skinks).
Again 4 injuries inflicted on my team resulting in the death of 2 mercenaries, a str break on the 3rd, and the death of Da Arnoldanators Merkin which apothed into death. Admittedly he is a 0 svp linemen but that dropped my poor broke ass team to 7 players.
Won 50k which means I can replace my ogre (RIP hugh arse) and he is replaced with Hugh Text Icles (because test icles is banded).
3 skill ups... will they make this team worthwhile?
My lvl 2 blitzer rolled a 12.... woooo he goes to lvl 3 as +str + tackle blitzer
My lvl 1 linemen rolled a 6 (doubles) and got dodge
my lvl 1 catcher rolled 11 and agility
Thats the extent of my 8 man team as far as levels... Personally I want to continue to the team but should I just accept defeat and recreate?
edit: tv 1020 chaos, opponent passes on the 230k on inducements... I'm thinking my opponent is either a> really good and is spotting me something or b> awful... so very awful, doesnt respond to gl or hf
I receive the ball on kick off, perform 4 blocks knock down 2 chaos warriors and a goat man and push a 3rd chaos warrior, pick up the ball out of range of the enemy and end turn... opponent doesnt stand up and first action... blitzes my linemen with the minotaur double skulls... here im watching to see just how dumb he is.... we doesnt use his 1 reroll but bam minotaur is hurt no apothecary... concede.
loaner linemen gets one of the 2 mvps and is hired, IM AT 9 MANS! and the record for the humans 1 win 1 draw 2 losses and 3 concedes
1 level up another linemen at this point i realize that strength is a double roll for linemen and foolishly i took dodge on the last one..
roll dice... doubles again this linemen takes guard and im kicking myself for missing it last time... so many reasons im bad at this game.
Honestly those are some good skillups. A 4 str blitzer and a 4 agi catcher is really nice. For the lineman I probably would have taken guard personally, but dodge is often quite useful as well. If you want to continue the team, that's not a bad foundation to be starting with.
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Guard is great on linemen but makes them a target. Still though anything that makes your line of scrimmage harder to knock down makes your life a whole lot easier on defense. Just enjoy it til the smashed collarbone roll
concedes in this game are really annoying, you might think because my high elves (Game of Flanders) are 11-1-3 I might know what im doing but actually the record is 4-1-3 with 7 concedes
Also while watching a random stream I saw Winged Weasels Orcs.... have a rough game vs humans
So apparently there is some sort of issue with the current build of the game where people sometimes have trouble running it for the first time. The solution to the problem is to start the game in Safe Mode (accessed by hitting the Play button in the Steam client instead of using the desktop icon) and then it works fine with the normal mode after that. This would have been a good thing for them to put into their troubleshooting post on their technical forums! I appreciate the sticky in their general forum with the info, but I didn't find that until after I had already found the Safe Mode option by dumb luck.
Yeah the game runs like hot garbage which is a shame because between disconnects, crashes, and horribly match making there are some really enjoyable games of bloodbowl out there
concedes in this game are really annoying, you might think because my high elves (Game of Flanders) are 11-1-3 I might know what im doing but actually the record is 4-1-3 with 7 concedes
Also while watching a random stream I saw Winged Weasels Orcs.... have a rough game vs humans
that game was streamed? i remember the game in question but didn't realize it was against anyone streaming it.
truely a showcase of some of the worst of blood bowl, wide TV mismatch and on top of that granting the higher TV team blessed dice while the lower TV team rolls ones like their is no TWO morrow.
i've had a few of those sort of games lately. although thankfully i was able to at least salvage ties in some of them.
edit: can someone teach me the ways of the foul? i have read/heard that it is not good in BB2, but having had no other experience, what is different that made it good in tabletop/BB1?
decided to go back to my lizardman team for a bit and get matched against an approximately equal opposing group of lizardmen. it was one of the more deadly games i have played. basically every skink ended up getting knocked out at one point or another. however despite one of his players taking a dirt nap and a couple others getting serious injuries i ended up losing 2-0. he scores on turn 8 (he recieved the opening kickoff) since he managed to go the length of the field after dodging out of 3 or 4 tackle zones to make a pass to a downfield skink. then when i am about to score he manages to get another set of good rolls to trap my ball carrier. since i need 2 scores to win i went for a double GFI + dodge. get the dodge fail GFI #1 so i reroll and pass. natrually i fail the next one then spent the next few turns derping around and he gets another dodge out of 3-4 tackle zones to make a long bomb and score on turn 16.
i guess i got impatient with the trying to score early, but with so many opposing players surrounding a skink and me unable to cage him, i felt i had to try for the score. plus i thought 67% + 85% + 85% with a reroll were decent odds.
this team is all kinds of weird now. since one player is missing next game, and i have over 18k in TV but i don't actually have tha tmany skills. i have 5 RR's and maxed out on all those other things (like cheerleaders and assistants). for a while i had nothing to sink the gold into so i bought those and now they are just inflating TV i think.
Yeah i think each assistant coach and cheerleader is worth 10 TV? Which is redonkulous. as 10 assistants and 10 cheerleaders would be 200 tv which is 70 more than the krox?
Managing TV is something the game doesnt really talk about, and its weird to hear teams sacking their highest value linemen because the team performs optimally in a given tv range.
The advice I've been given is a> keep your cheerleaders and assistants at 0, as the associated tv isnt worth the number of kick off events you are going to have. Rerolls should max at 4 and ideally be between 2-3, anything beyond that just inflates tv.
Gold should be kept under 150k (as above affects tv) you can dump gold into stadium upgrades, inducements (particularly if you are the lower value team) and in the hiring and firing of cheerleaders/apothecarys/assistants. Honestly it seems like a horrible waste of gold, and there should be a better option.
Cretaceous was my first team so I was just experimenting with stuff and unfortunately I think it has come back to bite me (hah!). I assume there is no way to ditch the cheerleaders/coaches right? I agree with you @farbekrieg that it seems like a waste. I guess it is intended as an equalizer? However my team skyrocketed in TV so I ended up with gold to burn but not a very strong team from a skills perspective so they are constantly punching above their weight class and not much to show for it.
I don't really want to start over with them (mostly because the renaming interface is annoying) but it may be better to do that in the long run.
you can absolutely fire cheerleaders and assistant coaches, its how most people burn gold over 150k (ie at 180 hire 3 cheerleaders, fire 3 cheerleaders) just hit the minus sign, be careful as there is no confirmation on this and you can accidently click your apoth or rerolls
you can absolutely fire cheerleaders and assistant coaches, its how most people burn gold over 150k (ie at 180 hire 3 cheerleaders, fire 3 cheerleaders) just hit the minus sign, be careful as there is no confirmation on this and you can accidently click your apoth or rerolls
Awesome, I'll take that route if I remember the next time I log in.
I do find the whole gaming the TV one of the real head scratching parts of BB but it has always been an issue. At least you have a stadium now to burn off quite a bit of excess.
After jettisoning some extraneous staff and replacing an injured saurus I dropped something around 300 TV and am now a lean 1520 (sort of, still have some dead weight in injured players). Then went up against a chaos team and forced a concession on turn 13 or so. I don't mind people conceding if the die rolls were really against them (in this case they were) or they at least attempt to play the game. The pregame concessions are frustrating though.
Im working a cabalvision lizard team trying to improve my play in the forum tourney and while a 3-0-2 record is nice throw out the concedes its 1-0-1 so i hear your frustration with all concencessions being of the disconnect or pregame concede
edit: high elf conceded turn 3 they got the blitz and failed to capitolize
I've seen suggestions in other places es about increasing the concession penalties. Such as the chance of a player quitting the team under certain circumstances. Now that a reconnect feature exists I guess that option could be discussed, but I am not sure it will accomplish anything if the standard method of dealing with those sort of issues is more social than codied (as was mentioned previously in the thread). Thankfully I haven't had too many problems, but definitely have had some nights where it took forever to get a game. It would be unfortunate to say that game "isn't for me" simply due to scheduling related issues. However I guess you could make the argument blood bowl isn't a pickup and play whenever type game (compared to say star wars battlefront)?
turn 8 td for me game is 1-1, kick off to opponent (he has a bribe as he was 210k tv less and got a reroll and a bribe) its a tie game I'm up 3 players... he bashes on the line and goes for the 17% foul on a saurus, I think eh seems like a waste but whatever... rolls as 12 armor break, and 11 injury... Trapper John line saurus and sometimes MD is DEAD!
No spp and I do have 150k banked so I could have let it go, but it just seemed like a game changer.. Apothicaried him to no casualty and finished out the game 2-1 but daaaayum
step 1: play a chaos team with 100 TV more than you
step 2: be down to 4 players on the pitch by turn 5
step 3: 2 of those players die on the pitch
edit: 3 players going into turn 6.
edit 2: silver lining start the 2nd half with 6 players!
edit 3: 3rd player died on turn 11...
edit 4: decided to concede and save us both some time. i feel as though i was justified in this concession since at the end i was again back down to only having 3 players on the pitch and it would just be rolling to see if his minotaur would butcher anymore of my lizards.
turn 8 td for me game is 1-1, kick off to opponent (he has a bribe as he was 210k tv less and got a reroll and a bribe) its a tie game I'm up 3 players... he bashes on the line and goes for the 17% foul on a saurus, I think eh seems like a waste but whatever... rolls as 12 armor break, and 11 injury... Trapper John line saurus and sometimes MD is DEAD!
No spp and I do have 150k banked so I could have let it go, but it just seemed like a game changer.. Apothicaried him to no casualty and finished out the game 2-1 but daaaayum
i didn't think i had "bad" games before as in nothing i could do at all, certainly some games were decidedly not in my favor but this is the second game in a row were i have had less than 5 players on the pitch before the first half is out (in this cause 4 players going into turn 7. i'm confident i could have done something differently but after a certain point there is not a reasonable action to take.
edit: 4 players to start the half thanks to a combination of injury and sweltering heat.
around tv 1700ish ive found (and again this is a super small sample size as im new to the game) the game takes a weird step to the left as kill teams are starting to emerge and you start to encounter 'meta' teams where they have fired guys who dont roll near perfect and the pitch clearing is their preferred method of victory as the op opposing team is fielding at least 1 claw/mb/piling on combo
Elf teams at this level will still beat the snot out of me but not murder half my team, my counter to this is dumping tv or switching to a new team, my 'comfort zone' for tv is 1000-1400 but again its because im not super familiar with all the synergies of the game, and the game itself doesnt even attempt to claim that all teams are equal, so some tend to shine at particular tv values. So I'm quite happy the game doesnt put a limit on the number of teams you can create
welp, lost that one 3-0. at one point in the second half i had literally 1 player on the pitch. is there a way to see your opponent's TV or roster like there is pre-game during inducements? i know my last opponent had a higher TV but i am curious how much higher since his players seemed to be way better than mine.
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edit: I swear to vishnu chaos are the biggest pussies of ever, game 2 as humans (now with a whopping 1040 tv because i bought an apothecary) matchup vs 1450 chaos... oddly for once i receive drive down the field and start stalling turn 5 because chaos is sitting at a scrum at midfield with my ogre and zug (go star players) as soon as i get a slight edge on blocks (where i finish a turn with all my guys standing up and his down, he stands his guys up, blitzes my ogre and goes for the 28% foul and concedes), for the most part everyone else will at least say gl hf or some variant but not chaos... chaos has only ever said one thing to me... kill... thats it as they surrounded a guy for a turn 16 foul. Most of the community are reasonable-ish, but a certain brand of player just puts on their douche bag cap and goes to town. Why yes Zug the star player of uselessness did get one of the mvps.
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i am honestly not sure, it looks like it pulls up the steam friends list in the friendlies part of the menu,
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edit: Human team game 4 (2 concedes 1 loss to chaos) game vs 1080 orcs not a whole lot of tv on either side i think I was 1040 but with a linemen loaner because 1 of my 2 catchers died vs chaos.
I had six injuries inflicted on me (I had to reroll a blitzer apothecary from -1 mv to miss next game), later my 2nd catcher was also murdered. Just absolutely awful and one of the first games I was outblocked by more than 2 or 3, 46 to 30. but i was losing a guy every 2 turns (counting the 3 kos).
It was even against a fun team 3 goblins and troll who tossed them at my ball carrier which was hilarious even when they hit so I think only 2 black orcs, a thrower, and 4 blitzers. I punched the goblins with my blitzers as hard as I could but I am still getting skulls and pushes, and my 67% dodges fail at an alarming rate i rerolled 3 and all 3 failed. Im only down... um 3 linemen after I bought another catcher after the game so my next game should be pretty awful
edit 2: game 4 vs tv 1440 lizards with 3 loaners and once again uttlery outsmashed. Game ended 3-2 but it was nowhere near that clos as his guard/+str saurus and block/guard remaining sauruses annihilated my team inflicting a niggling on my ogre (hugh arse), murdering the catcher i just bought, murdering hugh jacked man (who replaced hugh jackman (well -1 str so hes gone)), and a loaner grabbed mvp (tho he was -1 mv so umm yeah). e
Im down to 3 blitzers, 3 linemen, 1 catcher, 1 thrower and 80k so i could buy another blitzer maybe? I'm averse to just deleting and starting over but damn.
i know for sure that i build this team wrong initially, but that was ugly.
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Except . . . the game crashes on startup every single time. I have rebooted after installing, I have given the .exe files administrator privileges (which shouldn't be necessary but it was on the things to try list), I have updated my video card drivers, I have verified file integrity, I have done a repair on Visual C++ 2012. Nothing works.
Interesting to note that my computer thinks that I installed Visual C++ 2012 tomorrow, and I have no idea how that even happens. So I guess I'll wait for the date to roll over and see if it just magically works then?
That said another game vs saurus (this one down a krox) tv 1060 against my 1130 tv (after mercenaries) team. 1-1 tie again the saurus beat the shit out my no skill team (I have 1 blitzer with tackle who did manage to injure 2 skinks).
Again 4 injuries inflicted on my team resulting in the death of 2 mercenaries, a str break on the 3rd, and the death of Da Arnoldanators Merkin which apothed into death. Admittedly he is a 0 svp linemen but that dropped my poor broke ass team to 7 players.
Won 50k which means I can replace my ogre (RIP hugh arse) and he is replaced with Hugh Text Icles (because test icles is banded).
3 skill ups... will they make this team worthwhile?
My lvl 2 blitzer rolled a 12.... woooo he goes to lvl 3 as +str + tackle blitzer
My lvl 1 linemen rolled a 6 (doubles) and got dodge
my lvl 1 catcher rolled 11 and agility
Thats the extent of my 8 man team as far as levels... Personally I want to continue to the team but should I just accept defeat and recreate?
edit: tv 1020 chaos, opponent passes on the 230k on inducements... I'm thinking my opponent is either a> really good and is spotting me something or b> awful... so very awful, doesnt respond to gl or hf
I receive the ball on kick off, perform 4 blocks knock down 2 chaos warriors and a goat man and push a 3rd chaos warrior, pick up the ball out of range of the enemy and end turn... opponent doesnt stand up and first action... blitzes my linemen with the minotaur double skulls... here im watching to see just how dumb he is.... we doesnt use his 1 reroll but bam minotaur is hurt no apothecary... concede.
loaner linemen gets one of the 2 mvps and is hired, IM AT 9 MANS! and the record for the humans 1 win 1 draw 2 losses and 3 concedes
1 level up another linemen at this point i realize that strength is a double roll for linemen and foolishly i took dodge on the last one..
roll dice... doubles again this linemen takes guard and im kicking myself for missing it last time... so many reasons im bad at this game.
Guard is great on linemen but makes them a target. Still though anything that makes your line of scrimmage harder to knock down makes your life a whole lot easier on defense. Just enjoy it til the smashed collarbone roll
Also while watching a random stream I saw Winged Weasels Orcs.... have a rough game vs humans
that game was streamed? i remember the game in question but didn't realize it was against anyone streaming it.
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edit: can someone teach me the ways of the foul? i have read/heard that it is not good in BB2, but having had no other experience, what is different that made it good in tabletop/BB1?
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2nd lvl up...
what is this witchcraft?
i guess i got impatient with the trying to score early, but with so many opposing players surrounding a skink and me unable to cage him, i felt i had to try for the score. plus i thought 67% + 85% + 85% with a reroll were decent odds.
this team is all kinds of weird now. since one player is missing next game, and i have over 18k in TV but i don't actually have tha tmany skills. i have 5 RR's and maxed out on all those other things (like cheerleaders and assistants). for a while i had nothing to sink the gold into so i bought those and now they are just inflating TV i think.
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Managing TV is something the game doesnt really talk about, and its weird to hear teams sacking their highest value linemen because the team performs optimally in a given tv range.
The advice I've been given is a> keep your cheerleaders and assistants at 0, as the associated tv isnt worth the number of kick off events you are going to have. Rerolls should max at 4 and ideally be between 2-3, anything beyond that just inflates tv.
Gold should be kept under 150k (as above affects tv) you can dump gold into stadium upgrades, inducements (particularly if you are the lower value team) and in the hiring and firing of cheerleaders/apothecarys/assistants. Honestly it seems like a horrible waste of gold, and there should be a better option.
I don't really want to start over with them (mostly because the renaming interface is annoying) but it may be better to do that in the long run.
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Awesome, I'll take that route if I remember the next time I log in.
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edit: high elf conceded turn 3 they got the blitz and failed to capitolize
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turn 8 td for me game is 1-1, kick off to opponent (he has a bribe as he was 210k tv less and got a reroll and a bribe) its a tie game I'm up 3 players... he bashes on the line and goes for the 17% foul on a saurus, I think eh seems like a waste but whatever... rolls as 12 armor break, and 11 injury... Trapper John line saurus and sometimes MD is DEAD!
No spp and I do have 150k banked so I could have let it go, but it just seemed like a game changer.. Apothicaried him to no casualty and finished out the game 2-1 but daaaayum
step 1: play a chaos team with 100 TV more than you
step 2: be down to 4 players on the pitch by turn 5
step 3: 2 of those players die on the pitch
edit: 3 players going into turn 6.
edit 2: silver lining start the 2nd half with 6 players!
edit 3: 3rd player died on turn 11...
edit 4: decided to concede and save us both some time. i feel as though i was justified in this concession since at the end i was again back down to only having 3 players on the pitch and it would just be rolling to see if his minotaur would butcher anymore of my lizards.
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Actor who played Trapper John dead
What did you do?! Sweet Nuffle what have you done?
edit that said if you want to add my skinks to your deadpool
Leo Spaceman
Niles Crane
John Becker (oh please)
Rusty Venture (not sure cartoon characters count)
the deaths i sustained were actually saurus which makes it even weirder.
what theme team is dr. who on?
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edit: 4 players to start the half thanks to a combination of injury and sweltering heat.
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Elf teams at this level will still beat the snot out of me but not murder half my team, my counter to this is dumping tv or switching to a new team, my 'comfort zone' for tv is 1000-1400 but again its because im not super familiar with all the synergies of the game, and the game itself doesnt even attempt to claim that all teams are equal, so some tend to shine at particular tv values. So I'm quite happy the game doesnt put a limit on the number of teams you can create
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