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[PA Comic] Friday, August 3, 2012 - Systemica

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edited August 2012 in The Penny Arcade Hub

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    So, I'm guessing there's a new Kingdom Hearts that has artisinal meats?

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Whatever that thing in the first panel is, I like it.

  • Jimmy MarkuJimmy Marku LondonRegistered User regular
    or just shift!

  • mnihilmnihil Registered User regular
    Is artisinal a word? Does he mean artisanal, as in adjective to artisan?
    I'm not quipping, I'm asking.

  • GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    Yeah, as in 'try our artisinal sausages', implying that they're handmade/'crafted', as opposed to factory made.

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  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Whatever that thing in the first panel is, I like it.

    Dream Eaters are pretty rad, yeah. Most of the new "systems" in the game are fun, actually, but this made me giggle.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Grislo wrote: »
    Yeah, as in 'try our artisinal sausages', implying that they're handmade/'crafted', as opposed to factory made.

    Which is spelled artisanal. Being made by artisans rather than artisins and all. Just a Tychpo is all.

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  • GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    Hah, yes. I didn't even notice that and completely missed what he was asking, and then just spelled it the same way.

    Dammit.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Tycho was being an artisinal writer, and creating a hand-crafted word just for this artisanal piece of artwork.

  • jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    A few years ago when "artisan" was starting to show up in a lot of ads there was an ad that advertised "artesian bread." The idea of a hole in the ground that spewed loafs of bread was pretty exciting.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    So, what's the assessment on the game? Friend of mine is pretty disappointed that this one isn't a "real" kingdom hearts game, in that it isn't on a console.

    What is this I don't even.
  • darklaodarklao Registered User regular
    Should be "artisanal" from the latin roots artis + anal, meaning "fancy asshole."

  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    jackal wrote: »
    A few years ago when "artisan" was starting to show up in a lot of ads there was an ad that advertised "artesian bread." The idea of a hole in the ground that spewed loafs of bread was pretty exciting.

    It was actually supposed to be "cartesian bread"

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    mnihil wrote: »
    Is artisinal a word? Does he mean artisanal, as in adjective to artisan?
    I'm not quipping, I'm asking.

    It is according to my weird little dictionary plug-in thing, though dictionary.com disagrees. Curse you internet, why can't you get your shit straight?
    artisinal:
    Within the context of resource use, the term is used to define small-scale resource users or harvesters (e.g. fishermen) who use or harvest the resource mainly for household consumption but also sell the surplus for commercial gain.

    artisanal:
    Of or involving artisans; Made by a skilled worker (an artisan), such as a specialty item. Often applied to foodstuffs

  • mnihilmnihil Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    mnihil wrote: »
    Is artisinal a word? Does he mean artisanal, as in adjective to artisan?
    I'm not quipping, I'm asking.

    It is according to my weird little dictionary plug-in thing, though dictionary.com disagrees. Curse you internet, why can't you get your shit straight?
    artisinal:
    Within the context of resource use, the term is used to define small-scale resource users or harvesters (e.g. fishermen) who use or harvest the resource mainly for household consumption but also sell the surplus for commercial gain.
    Well, first of all: That dictionary is awesome.
    Secondly: That's why I asked. Usually, when you enter a non-existent word into Google, it's like the internet shouting at you: "THAT'S NOT A WORD! USE WORDS THAT ARE WORDS, IDIOT!" But artisinal popped up more frequently than non-words usually do. So I'd assume artisinal might very well co-exist with artisanal (which is really an unfortunate portmanteau), albeit with different meanings. Going by your dictionary, though, I'd wager artisanal is what Tycho meant.

    Just to be clear, guys, I'm not being dickish about a Tychpo, it was a matter of curiosity.
    Thanks for the input.

  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    Why not be dickish about a Tychpo, if that's what we're calling PA spelling errors? If you're going to publish a comic read by thousands, spell your shit right.

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  • cfsbrawlcfsbrawl Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    When will the prosciutto slicer keyblade be available for purchase in the PA store? Can't decide if I should name mine Pork Reaper or Hogsbane.

    cfsbrawl on
  • MichelanvaloMichelanvalo Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    So, what's the assessment on the game? Friend of mine is pretty disappointed that this one isn't a "real" kingdom hearts game, in that it isn't on a console.

    Because we're all still waiting on a proper KH3 on a god damn console to show up.

  • kingworkskingworks Registered User regular
  • EfesellEfesell Registered User regular
    Really love the tiny keyblade.

  • Black_HeartBlack_Heart Registered User regular
    I enjoyed Kingdom Hearts 1 immensely, KH2 was also quite enjoyable.... but since then the series has lost me.

    The first game was running around with Disney characters, hitting things with a Key Sword, casting magic, and equipping passive abilities, I thought it worked quite well. KH2 came around and added a few more systems, brought in a bunch of original SE characters to the mix, the Disney characters sort of took a backseat, and they added a few new gameplay systems.... fair enough.

    Then each game since then has gotten more and more convoluted with so many gameplay systems, characters I have no clue about, and stuff going every which way, that I just plain feel lost and confused. Like an Amish man stumbling into Akihabara.

  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    I played the demo a few days ago and was bewildered by exactly the things described in the comics - those weird animal thingies following you around they give no explanation for and all the weird terminology, mostly regarding the controls and game systems.

    Not exactly what I'd call a successful demo if the player is left feeling mostly confused.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    @cwgabriel wrote:
    @tychobrahe you spelled artisanal wrong fuckface.

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    I should note that Badman is fucking awesome
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  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Maz- wrote: »
    I played the demo a few days ago and was bewildered by exactly the things described in the comics - those weird animal thingies following you around they give no explanation for and all the weird terminology, mostly regarding the controls and game systems.

    Not exactly what I'd call a successful demo if the player is left feeling mostly confused.

    Well, it's a lot less confusing if you play the tutorials first. In the real game, the systems are introduced one by one with tutorials, though it certainly helps to have played Birth by Sleep. I enjoyed KH 3DS quite a bit, though that's because I just kind of laughed off the original storyline and had fun beating up balloon animals with my keyblade and personal stable of balloon animals. :)

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  • mnihilmnihil Registered User regular
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    @cwgabriel wrote:
    @tychobrahe you spelled artisanal wrong fuckface.
    Yah, what are the odds of Gabe noticing that typo without being tipped off.

    @Smoogy's got a point, though.

  • MichelanvaloMichelanvalo Registered User regular
    I enjoyed Kingdom Hearts 1 immensely, KH2 was also quite enjoyable.... but since then the series has lost me.

    The first game was running around with Disney characters, hitting things with a Key Sword, casting magic, and equipping passive abilities, I thought it worked quite well. KH2 came around and added a few more systems, brought in a bunch of original SE characters to the mix, the Disney characters sort of took a backseat, and they added a few new gameplay systems.... fair enough.

    Then each game since then has gotten more and more convoluted with so many gameplay systems, characters I have no clue about, and stuff going every which way, that I just plain feel lost and confused. Like an Amish man stumbling into Akihabara.

    The one that came out on the Nintendo DS between 1 and 2 with the card battle system was...odd. My friend was playing that game, put it down, sat on the couch in a bewildered look and said "I think that game was going to give me a seizure...." and then 20 minutes later, hopped up and went back to playing it.

  • SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    does anyone remember that time tycho got annoyed when people said the comic was incomprehensible without the newspost

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    PiptheFair wrote: »
    killing children would be hilarious
    Olivaw wrote: »
    HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE PENNY ARCADE FORUMS

    PLEASE ENJOY YOUR STAY

    AND THIS PENIS
    Man, I don't want to read about this lady's broken vagina.
    NotACrook wrote: »
    I am sitting here trying to come up with a tiered system for rating child molesters.
    cock vore is fuckin hilarious
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Stupendous news post by Tycho today, although mostly it made me sad because it's 100% correct and it's probably never going to change.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Whatever that thing in the first panel is, I like it.

    It's a Meow Wow. Part cat, part dog, all obnoxiously long reaction times when you're trying to pet the thing.

    Also comes in enormous, crowned variety.

  • mnihilmnihil Registered User regular
    Stupendous news post by Tycho today, although mostly it made me sad because it's 100% correct and it's probably never going to change.
    I can't agree. That Kotaku writer either isn't particularly bright or wasn't using those wits writing that article, but some of his points make complete sense. Essentially whenever he's addressing PR and publishers (why wouldn't Square Enix disclose the number of people involved? why are projects kept so secret? Both of these issues show disrespect for the work of the developers). Tycho's post is accurate and poignant when it comes to the issue of honesty costing these people their jobs et al., but Mr Schreier's (the journo's) point that industry public relations are screwed up, nebulous and overall hurtful to the industry itself is valid. Just sayin'. Tycho's "democratized info utopia" is too much black and white.
    does anyone remember that time tycho got annoyed when people said the comic was incomprehensible without the newspost
    You don't by any chance know whenabout that post was made? I'd love to read it. While I don't take issue with "having" to read the post, sometimes I'm disappointed having read the post and not knowing anything more about the comic.

  • JucJuc EdmontonRegistered User regular
    mnihil wrote: »
    Stupendous news post by Tycho today, although mostly it made me sad because it's 100% correct and it's probably never going to change.
    I can't agree. That Kotaku writer either isn't particularly bright or wasn't using those wits writing that article, but some of his points make complete sense. Essentially whenever he's addressing PR and publishers (why wouldn't Square Enix disclose the number of people involved? why are projects kept so secret? Both of these issues show disrespect for the work of the developers). Tycho's post is accurate and poignant when it comes to the issue of honesty costing these people their jobs et al., but Mr Schreier's (the journo's) point that industry public relations are screwed up, nebulous and overall hurtful to the industry itself is valid. Just sayin'. Tycho's "democratized info utopia" is too much black and white.
    does anyone remember that time tycho got annoyed when people said the comic was incomprehensible without the newspost
    You don't by any chance know whenabout that post was made? I'd love to read it. While I don't take issue with "having" to read the post, sometimes I'm disappointed having read the post and not knowing anything more about the comic.

    A big part of what people think is wanting to keep fans in the dark is two things.
    - in publicly traded companies, if something that could effect earnings isn't first disclosed to investors before you talk about it, it has legal ramifications.
    -people tend to jump to conclusions, get upset, or expect too much when you talk about stuff too early. Features in a game can change a lot, a whole lot, and games get canned all the time. It's a lot less of a headache if people don't know you canned their dream project to avoid shuttering a more viable project or pulled awesome features to avoid massive delays. So generally not talking about stuff that's not a sure thing is easier on folks at the company.


  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    I didn't care for the newspost at all. I don't agree with everything the Kotaku guy said, but Tycho's characterization of it is inaccurate.

    The point of pointing out the success of say, Gabe Newell despite his open communication with fans is not that Gabe Newell can't be fired, it's that he's been successful and apparently being open with fans hasn't ruined Valve's bottom line.

    Tycho seems to be assuming that the Kotaku guy doesn't even understand that there might be career consequences for telling reporters shit you're not supposed to tell them. The real point as I read it is that the PR strategy that restricts devs communication so much is wrongheaded.

    So Tycho attacks a strawman, tears it to pieces, and then shits all over the writer of the article: "this is literally the speech and conception of a child." Not his finest hour IMO.

  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Have you ever read Kotaku? They will take anything they can so they can throw up a post about it. Hell, even a dev not mentioning something is enough sometimes. If the article came from somewhere else maybe you'd have a point, but not when it was posted on Kotaku.

  • Babel_MatrixBabel_Matrix Registered User regular
    Sooo... did anyone else skim the art before reading the text? Because without that context those three panels paint a very grim tale indeed...

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  • MagnumCTMagnumCT Registered User regular
    Sooo... did anyone else skim the art before reading the text? Because without that context those three panels paint a very grim tale indeed...

    Hahahaha, I have now.

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