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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    emp123 wrote: »
    emp123 wrote: »
    So I didnt quite get my scoundrel to 50...currently sitting at 48.5 on Corellia. Guss is still super awesome, probably my favorite companion out of the soon to be four (ugh I've played too much of this) characters I've gotten to 50.


    Also, I'm not pleased with the black hole com change. Getting 350-700 for the implants is going to take months. Like 4+ of them. Which I guess means I'll get them just in time for 1.5.


    Well that's not a change so much as additional gear. You can still get the original black hole implants for 30 or whatever they cost. The 350 implants are just better than the 30 ones.

    Yeah, the change is that you no longer get coms from EC story. And you dont get anything useful in TFB story. And Im pretty sure the number of coms you get in EC HM have been reduced. Basically, for me to get 700 coms its going to take 10.5 weeks if I do a daily instance every day, run HM EC, and run both SM EV and SM KP. Itll take a little less factoring in however many coms HM TFB.

    Just sucks since I basically only need that and campaign gear (I could get the BH implants but the new ones are more of a straight upgrade).

  • CormacCormac Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    To me, 350 coms is just far too high when the new implants are just not that much better. Better yes, but not 320 coms and the amount of time invested to get that amount of coms better. I have about 500 coms banked, but I don't see myself spending them on one of the implants. I'd rather save the coms for gearing out, granted at great expense, my alts with BH gear.

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Well.. the loss of BH comms in EC story seem pretty bad, I guess. But let's break down how many comms you can get in a week.

    Random daily: 35 per week.
    Random story ops: 10 per week. (if you go with a geared crew, you can get ev story down in 45 min. It's on par with an FP if you have 8 geared people. I random this all the time).
    Black hole weekly: 5
    Hard mode EC or TFB: I can't remember how many comms you get from this, and I'm unable to view gaming websites from this computer. I know it's more than 5, but since I can't verify let's just be conservative and say 5.

    So 55 per week, (more likely closer to 60) if you can do at least one HM. 50 if you can't. 7 weeks. Still kind of slow I guess, but you can always go full tilt on the hard modes to speed it up. That is pretty rough, especially if you compare to the other top rank gear, War Hero for PVP. It takes me a mere 2 weeks to save up enough for one of the most expensive pvp pieces. And that's for like, a chest or a main hand, not a flippin' implant.

    Conclusion: 350 comm Implants are not worth it.

    Cambiata on
  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    So hey, just re-upped. Been a long while, just respecced Stunt, Bentt (agh damn you name changes) and Daely with what I hope is something like what they used to have. Pretty much completely forgotten how to play though, so decided to start with a new bounty hunter. I did miss TOR's dialogue.

  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    I think I feel this way because it was super easy to gear up my tank - I bought Black Hole gear on my Sniper, REd it and then crafted a bunch of mods/enhancements and now hes basically in all Black Hole gear. Really the only thing I have left to get is campaign gear (so I can get out of the stupid looking Columi stuff) and the implants. So I guess this is a problem of my own creation.

    Also a problem of my own creation, I think Ive nerfed my tanks threat generation either that or Im just a terrible tank. His def stats are decent (29ish% def, 46ish%, 35ish% absorb, 22.5k hp), but I have trouble holding aggro.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    emp123 wrote: »
    I think I feel this way because it was super easy to gear up my tank - I bought Black Hole gear on my Sniper, REd it and then crafted a bunch of mods/enhancements and now hes basically in all Black Hole gear. Really the only thing I have left to get is campaign gear (so I can get out of the stupid looking Columi stuff) and the implants. So I guess this is a problem of my own creation.

    Also a problem of my own creation, I think Ive nerfed my tanks threat generation either that or Im just a terrible tank. His def stats are decent (29ish% def, 46ish%, 35ish% absorb, 22.5k hp), but I have trouble holding aggro.

    Well, regular black hole gear is still the easiest to get out of any gear in the game. My fairly new 50s in all columi are getting black hole pieces, right now, before they get rakata.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    I kind of get what they're trying to do with campaign implants, they're doing the same deal they did with Rakata implants; it costs (still) 200 daily comms to get a Rakata implant. If you consider how most dailies only give you one daily comm each, and the dailies are pretty time consuming... it's a similar amount of time, I think. It's much quicker now with all the weekly and dailiy missions you can do for them, but before it took weeks to get both.

  • Commodore75Commodore75 gothenburg.seRegistered User regular
    Could someone explain the trash in KP? I've been running it enough times, but have never figured out why we are cc:ing the technician, or what the droid does, etc. ...

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Could someone explain the trash in KP? I've been running it enough times, but have never figured out why we are cc:ing the technician, or what the droid does, etc. ...

    Oh sure.

    There are certain rooms in KP that if you don't CC correctly you will wipe because of infinite adds. Those rooms usually contain 2 humanoids (technicians), a hunter-creeper droid, and an Arsenal droid.

    The Hunter-creeper has an uninterruptable cast, after which he spawns 2 murder droids. The cast is long, so if you have good DPS you can sometimes kill him before the first cast, but most groups get at least the first 2 murder droids. Should you leave hunter-creeper droid up, he will continually spawn murder droids, 2 at a time, until your raid is destroyed.

    The role of the humanoids in this is that they repair the droids. If you try to destroy hunter creeper without the humanoids CC'd, you will never do it. If even one humanoid is up, they can repair all damage infinitely on the droid.

    The basic strat is CC the humans, kill hunter creeper, kill any murder droids, kill arsenal, then kill the humanoids who are pushovers.

    Should you accidentally break CC, the best emergency plan is to ignore everything but the humanoids and kill them as quickly as possible (with enough DPS and survivability you can save the raid this way).

  • Commodore75Commodore75 gothenburg.seRegistered User regular
    Thank you very much!

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    ...wow, the weird stuttering really is only caused by nameplates. Turning it off completely, barely ever happens. Turn just one nameplate on, and if there's anything that gets a nameplate on screen, continuous stuttering. The world is going to look very weird without anyone's name, though. Hopefully this gets fixed, fast.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    So TOR is one game where I've pretty much always been dirt poor. My 50s are armor and biochem, is there any way to turn that into money? If it's still the same, the best biochem stuff can't be sold and the best armor stuff is crap compared to daily goods, right?

    Also, I've been pretty confused about endgame progression since the beginning, and it hasn't gotten any better. Can someone spell out what I should be doing with my 50s, and where Black Hole fits in? The daily prices for Rakata stuff was one of the reasons I unsubbed (when I started doing the math about how long it would take me to get even one piece, pretty sure it was over a month), are those completely ignorable now?

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    You'll make all your money doing dailies. If you do all the quests on all three planets, you wind up with about 300k. Plus all the comms.

    You should be trying to get the mods and armorings from the Heroics on the daily planets. Save comms, upgrade equipment, then run the Story Mode operations, get equipment there, run Hard Mode ops, get equipment there, etc. etc.

    Also, the no-nameplate experiment ended when I immediately ran into a group of brown Sand People on brown sand, without the giant red names to point them out to me. Back to stuttery movement for me.

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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Black Hole gear is the second newest stuff, basically best to worst it goes:

    Dread Guard - Obtained from Terror From Below/Astaton Hard Mode
    Campaign - Obtained from Explosive Conflict/Denova Hard Mode
    Black Hole - Obtained from Black Hole coms
    Rakata - Obtained from EV and KP Hard Mode, EC and Astaton story mode
    Columi - Obtained from story mode EV and KP, Hard Mode instances (the ones in the group finder)
    Tionese - Obtained from story mode instances?

    If youre going to gear up a class now Id start with doing the daily heroic via the groupfinder since thatll net you 5 black hole coms and you'll get a chance to get a piece of Columi gear as well. If you do that with the daily mission (and weekly) from the bounty board in the supplies area you'll get Columi and Tionese crystals to buy stuff from the vendors. If you can, do the story mode ops you can get through the groupfinder (although typically this is a group formed through general chat which then queues for the daily reward) and you'll get more chances to get Columi gear and more Black Hole coms.

    Ideally, if you had Cybertech you could RE the mods and then throw them in all of your gear, but since your Armormech you can make augments and augment kits (which allow you to put augments into any item) and sell them for money and you can then buy the mods on the GTN.

    Personally, I dont bother with the dailies on Belsavis/Corellia/Illum.


    EDIT: Oh, and if youre a super fresh 50 head over to the PvP area (Combat Training?) and get the quest that gives you PvP armor. If youre healing or dpsing itll be good enough to run Hard Mode flashpoints, but I definitely wouldnt tank in it (and honestly healing might be a bit rough but I was able to heal Maelstrom Prison HM in it on my Scoundrel).

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    I started noticing the weird stuttering, too, but It got fixed when I turned off just some of the nameplates. I used to have almost all of them on, but I turned off companions and NPCs, and it stopped stuttering.

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    I just could not handle not being able to tell who everyone was.

    I have Tuesdays off, and almost every Monday night I get all settled in for a long session. Why can they not start maintenance at like 5 AM? Are more gamers really up at 5-9 AM than 2-6 AM?

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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    I have nameplates of other players turned off, and basically all the rest in the nameplate section of the preferences. But I haven't found the place where I can turn off NPC nameplates. Where is that?

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    TheBigEasy wrote: »
    I have nameplates of other players turned off, and basically all the rest in the nameplate section of the preferences. But I haven't found the place where I can turn off NPC nameplates. Where is that?

    Under 'preferences' then 'nameplates', at the far right there's a spot for "nameplate on friendly NPCs" which I had turned on before. I now have it turned off. There's also a couple for friendly and enemy companions, which I turned off.

    Nameplates on friendly and enemy players are still on for me, as well as nameplates for enemy NPCs.

  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Scooter wrote: »
    So hey, just re-upped. Been a long while, just respecced Stunt, Bentt (agh damn you name changes) and Daely with what I hope is something like what they used to have. Pretty much completely forgotten how to play though, so decided to start with a new bounty hunter. I did miss TOR's dialogue.

    Once I unlock Legacy on my Shadow on Shadowlands, I plan on rolling up some Imps. We should team up. Though I'm just about to finish Taris so I still got.... 3 planets to go.

    Seesh...


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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    Speaking of Legacy. That unlock happens at the end of the first story chapter, right? It is not bound by level, but when you finish the story?

    For the Jedi - when is that? After I defeat Darth Andral? At which level can I roughly expect that? I am now 28.

  • AspectVoidAspectVoid Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    TheBigEasy wrote: »
    TheBigEasy wrote: »
    Speaking of Legacy. That unlock happens at the end of the first story chapter, right? It is not bound by level, but when you finish the story?

    For the Jedi - when is that? After I defeat Darth Andral? At which level can I roughly expect that? I am now 28.

    Spoilers to be safe:
    Yes, and yes. Level really doesn't matter, you face him after you finish Alderaan (complete the planet, go to a unique location to face him). I was level 34 when I did it, but that was with my first character back in December of 2011, and I was doing most things. If you want to face him sooner, just do your class quests only until you reach him.

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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    Ok thanks. Than it will take a while. I am just in the middle of Tatooine and I am level 28.

  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Chapter 1 ends at the same time for everyone - at the end of Alderaan/before beginning Taris (Empire)/Balmorra (Republic).

  • kmzkmz Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Well.. the loss of BH comms in EC story seem pretty bad, I guess. But let's break down how many comms you can get in a week.

    Random daily: 35 per week.
    Random story ops: 10 per week. (if you go with a geared crew, you can get ev story down in 45 min. It's on par with an FP if you have 8 geared people. I random this all the time).
    Black hole weekly: 5
    Hard mode EC or TFB: I can't remember how many comms you get from this, and I'm unable to view gaming websites from this computer. I know it's more than 5, but since I can't verify let's just be conservative and say 5.

    So 55 per week, (more likely closer to 60) if you can do at least one HM. 50 if you can't. 7 weeks. Still kind of slow I guess, but you can always go full tilt on the hard modes to speed it up. That is pretty rough, especially if you compare to the other top rank gear, War Hero for PVP. It takes me a mere 2 weeks to save up enough for one of the most expensive pvp pieces. And that's for like, a chest or a main hand, not a flippin' implant.

    Conclusion: 350 comm Implants are not worth it.

    You're forgetting a few more weeklies there. Killing the second boss in SM (or HM) EC and TfB gets you 8 BH comms each. And there's also the Rakghoul weekly (LI + Kaon) for another 8. These are all pretty easily doable with any decent group. If you can find a good hardcore group, Nightmare Pilgrim gives another 4. A full clear of HMEC should be... 20, I think? I would assume similar, maybe a bit more, for HM TfB. But that's probably beyond anybody not in a good raiding guild.

    So for most above-average decently geared players, you should be able to get around 35 (daily HMFP) + 10 (SM EV/KP) + 6 (Blackhole Weekly) + 16 (SM EC and TfB) + 8 (Rakghoul weekly) = 75 BH comms a week.

    All that said, the new implants still aren't worth it.

    kmz on
  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2012
    I still assert Nightmare Pilgrim is an idiotic encounter and I am deeply disappointed that Bioware is gearing up to add another big world boss into the game that will proceed to be done by absolutely nobody.

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    kmz wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Well.. the loss of BH comms in EC story seem pretty bad, I guess. But let's break down how many comms you can get in a week.

    Random daily: 35 per week.
    Random story ops: 10 per week. (if you go with a geared crew, you can get ev story down in 45 min. It's on par with an FP if you have 8 geared people. I random this all the time).
    Black hole weekly: 5
    Hard mode EC or TFB: I can't remember how many comms you get from this, and I'm unable to view gaming websites from this computer. I know it's more than 5, but since I can't verify let's just be conservative and say 5.

    So 55 per week, (more likely closer to 60) if you can do at least one HM. 50 if you can't. 7 weeks. Still kind of slow I guess, but you can always go full tilt on the hard modes to speed it up. That is pretty rough, especially if you compare to the other top rank gear, War Hero for PVP. It takes me a mere 2 weeks to save up enough for one of the most expensive pvp pieces. And that's for like, a chest or a main hand, not a flippin' implant.

    Conclusion: 350 comm Implants are not worth it.

    You're forgetting a few more weeklies there. Killing the second boss in SM (or HM) EC and TfB gets you 8 BH comms each. And there's also the Rakghoul weekly (LI + Kaon) for another 8. These are all pretty easily doable with any decent group. If you can find a good hardcore group, Nightmare Pilgrim gives another 4. A full clear of HMEC should be... 20, I think? I would assume similar, maybe a bit more, for HM TfB. But that's probably beyond anybody not in a good raiding guild.

    So for most above-average decently geared players, you should be able to get around 35 (daily HMFP) + 10 (SM EV/KP) + 6 (Blackhole Weekly) + 16 (SM EC and TfB) + 8 (Rakghoul weekly) = 75 BH comms a week.

    All that said, the new implants still aren't worth it.

    I was deliberately being conservative, number one because I didn't know the actual numbers on the weeklies, and number two because not everyone has the time to do that many raids.

    I do usually get the Rakghoul conflicts weekly, but I have never once gotten nightmare pilgrim. I also rarely get to do the SM that are not part of the group finder, because my work schedule is way different from the rest of my guild. If I'm lucky I get to do one raid a week, and it's usually an exploratory HM wherein we don't even clear one boss.

  • kafzielkafziel Registered User regular
    It sounds like you're saying that you're in an awful guild and need to either find a better one or find better people for it.

    Try putting together some pug storymodes in fleet chat.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    kafziel wrote: »
    It sounds like you're saying that you're in an awful guild and need to either find a better one or find better people for it.

    Try putting together some pug storymodes in fleet chat.

    Maybe you didn't read my whole post. The reason I can't get in on the raids is because I work terrible hours. No one is on when I am. I'm lucky if I can use the group finder to do a 4-man FP at 2am, forget about trying to put together an EC story mode.

  • kafzielkafziel Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    kafziel wrote: »
    It sounds like you're saying that you're in an awful guild and need to either find a better one or find better people for it.

    Try putting together some pug storymodes in fleet chat.

    Maybe you didn't read my whole post. The reason I can't get in on the raids is because I work terrible hours. No one is on when I am. I'm lucky if I can use the group finder to do a 4-man FP at 2am, forget about trying to put together an EC story mode.

    What hours? What server? Do you work weekends too? Are there seriously no days where you are able to be on between noon and midnight?

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    kafziel wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    kafziel wrote: »
    It sounds like you're saying that you're in an awful guild and need to either find a better one or find better people for it.

    Try putting together some pug storymodes in fleet chat.

    Maybe you didn't read my whole post. The reason I can't get in on the raids is because I work terrible hours. No one is on when I am. I'm lucky if I can use the group finder to do a 4-man FP at 2am, forget about trying to put together an EC story mode.

    What hours? What server? Do you work weekends too? Are there seriously no days where you are able to be on between noon and midnight?

    I work my schedule a little bit so that I can do one or two raids with my guild. For example, I am shifting my thursday schedule to do a HM EC raid that day with my guild. The guild is also running a HM TFB raid on Saturday which is easy enough for me to get in on.

    Generally when I play in the afternoons, it's between 1pm - 2:30p, not really enough time to get a raid done even if I'm with a group I trust. I get home at 1am and basically do my daily HM FP at that point. Group finder helps with KP and EV story modes, and I have been able to pug those at 2am.

    The server I am on is The Jedi Covenant.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2012
    "You must have a terrible guild" is kind of a crazy conclusion to come to.

    I mean the HM ops, by themselves, that's three hours of time we devote to that. Just by doing two I'm committing 6 hours a week.

    SM are probably faster - I know my guild can burn down EV SM in 45min at this point, but I doubt we can do TFB that fast, even if it is overall easier than EC was when it was first released.

    My guild does EC and TFB almost every day of the week. And I myself am running KP NM on Sunday so we can get the unyielding title. That's three raids I'm able to go to this week. That's a significant chunk of time to be devoting to the game, and I don't think "oh well if you're not doing more than that you suck" is at all a reasonable reaction.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    The worst part about those numbers is that I'm a big fan of alts. I've got two 50s and one coming up at 43, more in the lowbies and eventually I'd like to do one of every class. I might even do more than one of every class if I play long enough. In the time it'd take to get one of those implants for just one character, I could make a brand new character from scratch and get it to 50. Assuming a more realistic schedule where I wouldn't be spending all the free time I have making sure I hit every mission/etc in the optimal time frame, I could probably do two or three.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Yeah I like my alts as well. I spend a lot of time getting the dailies on my main, but I still ignore that sometimes just to play one of my lowbies, or to get the daily on one of my other 50s.

  • SquiddyBiscuitSquiddyBiscuit Registered User regular
    Just started playing this game (got a level 10 super evil Sith Sith) and I'm pretty impressed by the story in this game.
    It's fun and interesting!

    Definitely want to play through all the classes now, and even try out new race/class variations.

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  • kmzkmz Registered User regular
    Scooter wrote: »
    The worst part about those numbers is that I'm a big fan of alts. I've got two 50s and one coming up at 43, more in the lowbies and eventually I'd like to do one of every class. I might even do more than one of every class if I play long enough. In the time it'd take to get one of those implants for just one character, I could make a brand new character from scratch and get it to 50. Assuming a more realistic schedule where I wouldn't be spending all the free time I have making sure I hit every mission/etc in the optimal time frame, I could probably do two or three.

    Yeah, honestly if I had 350 BH comms to spare I'd much rather spend that gearing up alts via legacy than buying one of the new implants.

  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    So I completed the story on my Scoundrel this weekend and I noticed an awful lot of this:
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    Which I find to be way too funny.



    As for the 350 coms thing, the tank is really the only guy I have left to gear. My Sniper is basically in all 61 gear, my warrior is almost there as well. I guess I could gear up my sorc but its easy enough for me to get the coms for her gear plus Im not entirely sure how I should be gearing her.

  • Commodore75Commodore75 gothenburg.seRegistered User regular
    To all the people who are having problems with the game stuttering,
    What happens if you turn off the HUD / GUI-overlay? (Ctrl + u)

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    It just made the game freeze and mess up for a moment while it switched from one to the other. Still stuttered because there were still mobs with names on screen.

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  • exmelloexmello Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    So if you don't have time to raid, why are you so concerned about not being able to afford a piece of Hazmat gear that was obviously added to the game for people participating in the new HM operation? I figure I'll pick it up eventually, because I min max my numbers for raiding, but if you are mainly running flashpoints and warzones, just ignore it.

    The bigger problem in this context is that everyone is waiting for new FPs and WZs. They need to add those soon. Not inflate everyone's gear levels by adding cheap raiding gear to puggable story mode content.

    Edit: A lot of people might disagree with me. But in my personal opinion I think Bioware made the exact right choice in making a clear distinction between story mode content and progression gear. Though technically with the current crafting bug... you can actually just buy all lvl63 gear.

    Edit 2: I reread what I wrote and it looks like I'm making an elitist raid vs. "scrub casuals" argument. I'm not. I log on my main for 4-5 hours PER WEEK at most for raiding anyway. What I think is that Bioware need to consistently release new content for every style of play, but at the same time keep them separate.

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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Whats the crafting bug?


    I basically do the daily flashpoint on three characters and then raid on my sniper (who I dont do dailies on because I basically only need the campaign main hand). Really the only thing my tank needs are the implants since I crafted 61 mods and enhancements for him. I try to run a raid with my healer and tank whenever a pug is available which really just means I run instances on my healer since Im a little cautious about main tanking raids despite my gear.

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