You know in real life I would call anyone who said the word protoculture a NERD
But then usually I point out something rather nerdy someone is saying and reverse thier comment into saying nerd
thorgotthere is special providencein the fall of a sparrowRegistered Userregular
thank goodness, i have missed you webcomics thread
it wasn’t until this very second that the meaning of “it was then that i carried you” was that the single footprints belong to jesus — i always thought it meant he flew up behind you and kinda lifted you by the arms as you walked, so they’re still your footprints but like teaching a baby
jesus was a blue ghost in rotj, but they later swapped him out for hayden christensen
this marks the end of the footprints saga. thanks for being here, amen, have a great weekend
I'm going to throw my hat into the ring and say I am amused by this comic (linked for >500kb). It is essentially a Harry Potter parody with a jerk adult as protagonist, but it makes me laugh. Visually SFW but strong language and occasional sexual overtones. I now await ridicule for poor taste.
I think maybe a lot of people don’t know that this comic I made exists because I was really nervous when I posted it and almost didn’t want anyone to read it.
Well, now I’m posting it again. It’s such a mess but this is what an unplanned, emotional comic looks like, and there are a lot of things about it that I like, looking back.
That dude in the Princess and the Pea sure knows how to pick ‘em. A woman so delicate she somehow manages to be bruised by a pea hidden under a ridiculous amount of mattresses -might- not be marriage material. But hey, if he likes a woman that will undoubtedly shatter like glass when he tries to hug her, I guess that’s his call.
It has got to be a difficult life for that poor woman.
I don’t really do a lot of fairy tale (not folklore) comics and I’ll tell you why: I largely dislike the messages they convey. There’s a great deal of imagination there and whimsy for a lifetime, but the way that the morals are imparted (not to mention some of the morals themselves) is a little difficult for me to deal with. A large amount of fairy tale literature deals with themes and characters I find fairly annoying, particularly royalty and royal figures and the stories often haven’t got much good to say about women.
While mythology may not be the most enlightened area with regards to gender roles and the like, I’ve found fairy tales to be much more offensive in a number of ways. While their male characters may not be the most fully developed figures in literature, their female characters almost always fall into a few basic stereotypes. You’ve got your princesses, your queens, your peasant girls or wives, and, of course, your witches. Not only that, but these characters only have a few basic personality types as well! Either the woman is kind but meek and (most importantly in the story) beautiful, or she’s willful with a crooked disposition (which usually results in terrible things happening to her). Having read a fair amount of fairy tales, I can almost count on one hand the number of good, strong female characters I’ve come across within them. The sad bit is that, even for these few great heroines, the outcome of their story is usually just to be married to some dude. What a reward!
Of course, that was life back in the day. Women weren’t expected to live up to their enormous potential or they were, at best, expected to live up to the potential that patriarchal societies set for them. You were to be a good wife, a fertile mother, and (if you were lucky) a good-looking lass and that was it. In the vast majority of cultures since the advent of male dominated societies, women were not expected to take jobs, earn money, or have adventures. It was so unexpected that people didn’t even imagine it or come up with stories that might contain such things. Even in fiction, these roles were reserved primarily for men.
So if that’s just how it was, why get upset over it? Nobody really needs to go on a crusade nowadays, but it’s important to note the effect stories have on culture. Many children (boys and girls) were read fairy tale stories at very young ages and these tales help them to understand their role in society, even if the concepts presented are fairly archaic. While TV has largely replaced storytelling as the entertainment media of choice for all ages in Western countries, fairy tales are still told around the world or become part of modern media. It’s sad to think about all the children through history that have been influenced into thinking the beautiful princess was the only character to idolize in their stories simply because they didn’t have any other options.
When you’re presented with willful women that turn out to be witches or passive female characters that get to marry royalty, it isn’t really surprising.
That said, it’s still possible to read and appreciate fairy tales for what they are, just not with this particular issue. Thankfully, we live in a time where gender equality in fiction is -starting- to shift. Even Disney movies are trying to give young girls proper role models, though they aren’t always perfect.
Personally, I’m just glad ladies have a little more freedom nowadays. If all you’ve got available to you is witch or passive wife, you -know- some people are going to become witches.
And I’m afraid we just don’t have enough babies to feed all the witches we’d have in the world thanks to that choice.
Note: I am joking about goofy story-witches, NOT modern wiccan witches. (Before people start commenting on THAT haha)
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Indie Winterdie KräheRudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered Userregular
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I really like this webcomic
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Indie Winterdie KräheRudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered Userregular
That dude in the Princess and the Pea sure knows how to pick ‘em. A woman so delicate she somehow manages to be bruised by a pea hidden under a ridiculous amount of mattresses -might- not be marriage material. But hey, if he likes a woman that will undoubtedly shatter like glass when he tries to hug her, I guess that’s his call.
It has got to be a difficult life for that poor woman.
I don’t really do a lot of fairy tale (not folklore) comics and I’ll tell you why: I largely dislike the messages they convey. There’s a great deal of imagination there and whimsy for a lifetime, but the way that the morals are imparted (not to mention some of the morals themselves) is a little difficult for me to deal with. A large amount of fairy tale literature deals with themes and characters I find fairly annoying, particularly royalty and royal figures and the stories often haven’t got much good to say about women.
While mythology may not be the most enlightened area with regards to gender roles and the like, I’ve found fairy tales to be much more offensive in a number of ways. While their male characters may not be the most fully developed figures in literature, their female characters almost always fall into a few basic stereotypes. You’ve got your princesses, your queens, your peasant girls or wives, and, of course, your witches. Not only that, but these characters only have a few basic personality types as well! Either the woman is kind but meek and (most importantly in the story) beautiful, or she’s willful with a crooked disposition (which usually results in terrible things happening to her). Having read a fair amount of fairy tales, I can almost count on one hand the number of good, strong female characters I’ve come across within them. The sad bit is that, even for these few great heroines, the outcome of their story is usually just to be married to some dude. What a reward!
Of course, that was life back in the day. Women weren’t expected to live up to their enormous potential or they were, at best, expected to live up to the potential that patriarchal societies set for them. You were to be a good wife, a fertile mother, and (if you were lucky) a good-looking lass and that was it. In the vast majority of cultures since the advent of male dominated societies, women were not expected to take jobs, earn money, or have adventures. It was so unexpected that people didn’t even imagine it or come up with stories that might contain such things. Even in fiction, these roles were reserved primarily for men.
So if that’s just how it was, why get upset over it? Nobody really needs to go on a crusade nowadays, but it’s important to note the effect stories have on culture. Many children (boys and girls) were read fairy tale stories at very young ages and these tales help them to understand their role in society, even if the concepts presented are fairly archaic. While TV has largely replaced storytelling as the entertainment media of choice for all ages in Western countries, fairy tales are still told around the world or become part of modern media. It’s sad to think about all the children through history that have been influenced into thinking the beautiful princess was the only character to idolize in their stories simply because they didn’t have any other options.
When you’re presented with willful women that turn out to be witches or passive female characters that get to marry royalty, it isn’t really surprising.
That said, it’s still possible to read and appreciate fairy tales for what they are, just not with this particular issue. Thankfully, we live in a time where gender equality in fiction is -starting- to shift. Even Disney movies are trying to give young girls proper role models, though they aren’t always perfect.
Personally, I’m just glad ladies have a little more freedom nowadays. If all you’ve got available to you is witch or passive wife, you -know- some people are going to become witches.
And I’m afraid we just don’t have enough babies to feed all the witches we’d have in the world thanks to that choice.
Note: I am joking about goofy story-witches, NOT modern wiccan witches. (Before people start commenting on THAT haha)
Not to interrupt your rant, o my friend, but these fairy tales often have roots in old pre-christian mythological sagas. One right does not outweigh the wrongs, but I feel that you are trying to apply allegories to Higher things unto the mundane, flawed world we inhabit.
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You know in real life I would call anyone who said the word protoculture a NERD
But then usually I point out something rather nerdy someone is saying and reverse thier comment into saying nerd
The little league art rubs you the wrong way?
ehhhhhn
hump day
it wasn’t until this very second that the meaning of “it was then that i carried you” was that the single footprints belong to jesus — i always thought it meant he flew up behind you and kinda lifted you by the arms as you walked, so they’re still your footprints but like teaching a baby
jesus was a blue ghost in rotj, but they later swapped him out for hayden christensen
this marks the end of the footprints saga. thanks for being here, amen, have a great weekend
goin down to your place
gonna hump ya cat
uh,,.,
*cartwheel*
but cat is my grammys name :-O
that cat will rip your balls off and play with them like a ball of yarn
;-)
i'm counting on it
:-t
5th and main is nsfw and about some very dark shit but is also super interesting!
http://www.abominable.cc/2012/08/01/wild-boarbecue/
http://www.johnnywander.com
ok
that was a really funny joke
not teens...
Ughtopia, nestled in the iPod Touch Valley, next to the mall
That dude in the Princess and the Pea sure knows how to pick ‘em. A woman so delicate she somehow manages to be bruised by a pea hidden under a ridiculous amount of mattresses -might- not be marriage material. But hey, if he likes a woman that will undoubtedly shatter like glass when he tries to hug her, I guess that’s his call.
It has got to be a difficult life for that poor woman.
I don’t really do a lot of fairy tale (not folklore) comics and I’ll tell you why: I largely dislike the messages they convey. There’s a great deal of imagination there and whimsy for a lifetime, but the way that the morals are imparted (not to mention some of the morals themselves) is a little difficult for me to deal with. A large amount of fairy tale literature deals with themes and characters I find fairly annoying, particularly royalty and royal figures and the stories often haven’t got much good to say about women.
While mythology may not be the most enlightened area with regards to gender roles and the like, I’ve found fairy tales to be much more offensive in a number of ways. While their male characters may not be the most fully developed figures in literature, their female characters almost always fall into a few basic stereotypes. You’ve got your princesses, your queens, your peasant girls or wives, and, of course, your witches. Not only that, but these characters only have a few basic personality types as well! Either the woman is kind but meek and (most importantly in the story) beautiful, or she’s willful with a crooked disposition (which usually results in terrible things happening to her). Having read a fair amount of fairy tales, I can almost count on one hand the number of good, strong female characters I’ve come across within them. The sad bit is that, even for these few great heroines, the outcome of their story is usually just to be married to some dude. What a reward!
Of course, that was life back in the day. Women weren’t expected to live up to their enormous potential or they were, at best, expected to live up to the potential that patriarchal societies set for them. You were to be a good wife, a fertile mother, and (if you were lucky) a good-looking lass and that was it. In the vast majority of cultures since the advent of male dominated societies, women were not expected to take jobs, earn money, or have adventures. It was so unexpected that people didn’t even imagine it or come up with stories that might contain such things. Even in fiction, these roles were reserved primarily for men.
So if that’s just how it was, why get upset over it? Nobody really needs to go on a crusade nowadays, but it’s important to note the effect stories have on culture. Many children (boys and girls) were read fairy tale stories at very young ages and these tales help them to understand their role in society, even if the concepts presented are fairly archaic. While TV has largely replaced storytelling as the entertainment media of choice for all ages in Western countries, fairy tales are still told around the world or become part of modern media. It’s sad to think about all the children through history that have been influenced into thinking the beautiful princess was the only character to idolize in their stories simply because they didn’t have any other options.
When you’re presented with willful women that turn out to be witches or passive female characters that get to marry royalty, it isn’t really surprising.
That said, it’s still possible to read and appreciate fairy tales for what they are, just not with this particular issue. Thankfully, we live in a time where gender equality in fiction is -starting- to shift. Even Disney movies are trying to give young girls proper role models, though they aren’t always perfect.
Personally, I’m just glad ladies have a little more freedom nowadays. If all you’ve got available to you is witch or passive wife, you -know- some people are going to become witches.
And I’m afraid we just don’t have enough babies to feed all the witches we’d have in the world thanks to that choice.
Note: I am joking about goofy story-witches, NOT modern wiccan witches. (Before people start commenting on THAT haha)
Not to interrupt your rant, o my friend, but these fairy tales often have roots in old pre-christian mythological sagas. One right does not outweigh the wrongs, but I feel that you are trying to apply allegories to Higher things unto the mundane, flawed world we inhabit.
The more I read, the more the characters just don't feel like young versions of the DC heroes, to the point where it just seems arbitrary
I'd much rather go with Tiny Titans if I'm going with the Superhero Elementary angle.
“and you know, all of the engineers got good grades on their red badge of courage book reports.”