Remember, Remember the Sixth of November [2012 Presidential Election Thread]

AManFromEarth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cQe7PlnESc

Yes it's that time of August again.

We have Massachusetts Moderate Mitt Romney, defender of the little man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPk4NTp-Lmk

versus Kenyan Socialist Barack Obama, seen here communicating with the beast:


The Only Polling That Actually Matters

And guaranteed that at least once a day something will happen that makes you go


Recent developments:

Mitt Romney selects Paul Ryan, House Budget Committee Chair, as his running mate, announcing this from a Navy yard to showcase both men's years of experience with foreign policy and the military.

Barack Obama claims that small business owners didn't build the infrastructure they rely on to get their shop going, the media forgets how grammar works.

Joe Biden, great vice president or greatest vice president?

TheCanMan

My wife is scheduled for a c-section on Nov. 5th. She didn't find it amusing when I told her I was still trying to figure out when I could get to the polls.

Atomika

http://youtu.be/jjMKjr_jJjo

Atomika

AManFromEarth wrote:

Joe Biden, great vice president or greatest vice president?

Greatestest.

Tomanta

Approve of the thread title.
Spent a few minutes trying to alter the full rhyme,
but I'm at work and feel bad wasting the time.

AManFromEarth

TheCanMan wrote: »

My wife is scheduled for a c-section on Nov. 5th. She didn't find it amusing when I told her I was still trying to figure out when I could get to the polls.

Does your state have early voting?

You probably qualify for some sort of dispensation. My grandmother was able to vote from home on an absentee ballot for the last ten years of her life, I'd suggest contacting your Supervisor of Elections (or equivalent position).

Preacher

Atomic Ross wrote: »

http://youtu.be/jjMKjr_jJjo

So much lies from libs.

Corehealer

Tomanta wrote: »

Approve of the thread title.
Spent a few minutes trying to alter the full rhyme,
but I'm at work and feel bad wasting the time.

I don't know why Ryan's budget plan should ever be forgot!

AManFromEarth

Atomic Ross wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote:

Joe Biden, great vice president or greatest vice president?

Greatestest.

Kruite

Anyone see Maddow last night? Ripped into Romney's performance as Mass. Gov. It was glorious.

SyphonBlue

Chris Cilizza is losing his godamn mind

Romney’s answer won’t satisfy everyone. (More on that below.) But, in asserting that for the last decade he has never paid less than a 13 percent tax rate, Romney is calling Democrats’ bluff and forcing them now to call him a liar if they argue that he paid any less. In short: The burden of proof has now shifted from Romney to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and the Democratic party more broadly.

Got that? Mitt Romney claims something - without any evidence whatsoever - and the burden of proving that claim is on the Democrats.

Preacher

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee did not pledge to release any additional returns beyond what he had previously pledged, but essentially quashed rumors that he paid no taxes at some point.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13317073-romney-i-never-paid-less-than-13-percent-in-taxes?lite

No firstread, when a man who has lied about his taxes and whats in them in the past tells you something about them, it does not essentially quash rumors of wrong doing, if anything it highlights that he might be lying BECAUSE HE HAS LIED IN THE PAST AND IS NOT SHOWING YOU ANYTHING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!

Doctor Detroit

How long before the media realizes there's a video game out there that has an Objectivist antagonist with the last name "Ryan"?

So It Goes

I like the new agree and awesome buttons for this thread, makes it easy to voice my input while still being lazy

enlightenedbum

It's like they're a god damned hive mind of retardation.

shalmelo

Doctor Detroit wrote: »

How long before the media realizes there's a video game out there

...I'ma stop you right there.

Delzhand

Preacher wrote: »

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee did not pledge to release any additional returns beyond what he had previously pledged, but essentially quashed rumors that he paid no taxes at some point.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13317073-romney-i-never-paid-less-than-13-percent-in-taxes?lite

No firstread, when a man who has lied about his taxes and whats in them in the past tells you something about them, it does not essentially quash rumors of wrong doing, if anything it highlights that he might be lying BECAUSE HE HAS LIED IN THE PAST AND IS NOT SHOWING YOU ANYTHING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!

"Harry Reid's charge is totally false. I'm sure waiting for Harry to put up who it was who told him what he says they told him. I don't believe him for a minute, by the way," Romney said.

"I don't believe him" is a really strange way of putting it. He's accusing you, you know the fact one way or the other, there's no room for belief, any more than I can say I believe my desk is white.

Xobyte

Yeah, that is a really bizarre way of phrasing that.

Preacher

enlightenedbum wrote: »

It's like they're a god damned hive mind of retardation.

Steven Bennen highlighted 6 FUCKING 6! Things that were wrong with Romney's new statement.

1. Romney can prove this claim is accurate, and also prove that Reid is wrong, by releasing his tax returns (the tax returns he already turned over to John McCain). For reasons he can't explain, Romney still refuses. Today's response, at its root, comes down to, "trust me."

2. Romney isn't in a position to say "trust me" since he has a track record of making similar claims that turned out to be completely wrong.

3. Romney's answer only leads to more questions. He claims, without proof, to have paid "at least 13 percent" every year. But 13 percent of what? Does that cover total or taxable income? Maybe Romney would be happy to "go back and look" again?

4. Romney may not understand this, but 13 percent isn't a tax burden worth bragging about. Most of the middle class are not, by definition, multi multi-millionaires with car elevators, and they're paying a higher percentage of their incomes in taxes than Romney is. (Romney, if elected, intends to make sure he and his wealthy buddies continue to pay less than working people.)

And 5. Romney, by addressing the story in detail again today, keeps the story alive and steps on every other part of his message.

Bonus! 6. If you watch the clip, Romney describes interest in this issue as "very small-minded." He just insulted nearly two-thirds of the country.

And yet again that liberal media won't even bring up 1 of these things.

SyphonBlue

Delzhand wrote: »

Preacher wrote: »

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee did not pledge to release any additional returns beyond what he had previously pledged, but essentially quashed rumors that he paid no taxes at some point.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13317073-romney-i-never-paid-less-than-13-percent-in-taxes?lite

No firstread, when a man who has lied about his taxes and whats in them in the past tells you something about them, it does not essentially quash rumors of wrong doing, if anything it highlights that he might be lying BECAUSE HE HAS LIED IN THE PAST AND IS NOT SHOWING YOU ANYTHING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!

"Harry Reid's charge is totally false. I'm sure waiting for Harry to put up who it was who told him what he says they told him. I don't believe him for a minute, by the way," Romney said.

"I don't believe him" is a really strange way of putting it. He's accusing you, you know the fact one way or the other, there's no room for belief, any more than I can say I believe my desk is white.

"The sky is blue," President Obama claimed yesterday on the campaign trail. Meanwhile, in Omaha, Republican Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney said, "Actually, my friends, you can clearly see the sky is green." Most people on the left probably will disagree with this statement, but the burden of proof is now clearly on the Democratic side.

Preacher

Assholes or Idiots Romney camp.

The idea that restoring funding to Medicare could somehow hasten its bankruptcy is on its face absurd," said spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

Really its one or the other.

Atomika

That shit with Romney today made me sick.


"Hey, I totally paid my taxes! And never less than 13%! Take THAT, Harry Reid! The ball is in your rink now."

AManFromEarth

Preacher wrote: »

Assholes or Idiots Romney camp.

The idea that restoring funding to Medicare could somehow hasten its bankruptcy is on its face absurd," said spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

Really its one or the other.

It's like I said to the guy who was on here this morning:

"That money doesn't leave Medicare, it still goes to Medicare, but we send it out to other things."

It is not putting money into Medicare when you TAKE IT OUT.

never die

Doctor Detroit wrote: »

How long before the media realizes there's a video game out there that has an Objectivist antagonist with the last name "Ryan"?

Mitt Romney, would you kindly explain how your plan is different than Ryan's, including graphs or some real numbers?

AManFromEarth

Atomic Ross wrote: »

That shit with Romney today made me sick.


"Hey, I totally paid my taxes! And never less than 13%! Take THAT, Harry Reid! The ball is in your rink now."

Someone posted this in the old thread last night:

adventfalls

Guh. Wrong thread.

TheSmacker

Someone posted in the last thread they thought that Ryan must have a tell similar to Romney's laugh when he's about to lie.

I'd like to throw my nomination in that it's whenever he uses the word 'wonk', or any variation in a response. Or whenever he opens his mouth. But I think I like the wonk thing better.

jkylefulton

TheSmacker wrote: »

Someone posted in the last thread they thought that Ryan must have a tell similar to Romney's laugh when he's about to lie.

I'd like to throw my nomination in that it's whenever he uses the word 'wonk', or any variation in a response. Or whenever he opens his mouth. But I think I like the wonk thing better.

The tell is whenever he looks into the camera with his dead, dead eyes.

DivideByZero

Mazzyx wrote: »

Since we need a picture. Romney going all professor with a whiteboard for us.

Holy shit Romney totally put up a Four Square -- now you KNOW you're about to get fucked!

jkylefulton

Someone at that press conference should have asked Romney to produce a Venn Diagram.

Tomanta

There's a 7th thing wrong:
Romney previously said he didn't think he paid less than the 13.9% from the year he revealed.

13 < 13.9.

Of course, the way he worded it gives him an easy out.

TheBlackWind

"it gets a little wonky," as said by Paul Ryan when he doesn't want to have to explain something (like how none of his numbers make any fucking sense) is already getting on my nerves.

Edit: aw damn, I came to the new thread as soon as I read it in the old thread and everyone still beat me. You guys are fast!

DiannaoChong

Yeah I can't wait until someone shows fox news Bioshock.

KalTorak

"it gets a little wonky" = "it's too complicated for you simpletons" = "I made that shit up"

Preacher

KalTorak wrote: »

"it gets a little wonky" = "it's too complicated for you simpletons" = "I made that shit up"

Its reminiscent of Karl Rove's THE MATH! And look motherfucker if Ezra Klein can explain to me the Libor scandal in two minutes you can tell me your bullshit in an interview.

jkylefulton

I would kind of like both Obama and Romney to explain how something like this can happen:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/no-criminal-case-is-likely-in-loss-at-mf-global/?hp

$1 Billion gets stolen, and no one goes to jail?

enlightenedbum

Capture of our government by the financial industry.

Hey, I just explained it in eight words. Go me.

SyphonBlue

jkylefulton wrote: »

I would kind of like both Obama and Romney to explain how something like this can happen:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/no-criminal-case-is-likely-in-loss-at-mf-global/?hp

$1 Billion gets stolen, and no one goes to jail?

$$$

Preacher

Agriculture Committee member Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R- Kan., issued a statement Wednesday accusing the administration not only of “vastly expanding the food stamps rolls by 45 percent," but of “continuing the regulatory assault on our farms and ranches” and “supporting a huge increase in the death tax at the end year.”

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13318010-election-year-politics-affect-fate-of-farm-bill-and-disaster-relief?lite

This is fucking ridiculous, what god damn food stamps have to do with a farm bill other than the GOP being ass clowns is fucking stupifying, but THE DEATH TAX? THE FUCKING DEATH TAX COMING BACK? FUCK YOU!!!

TheCanMan

AManFromEarth wrote: »

TheCanMan wrote: »

My wife is scheduled for a c-section on Nov. 5th. She didn't find it amusing when I told her I was still trying to figure out when I could get to the polls.

Does your state have early voting?

You probably qualify for some sort of dispensation. My grandmother was able to vote from home on an absentee ballot for the last ten years of her life, I'd suggest contacting your Supervisor of Elections (or equivalent position).

NJ doesn't do in-person early voting, but anyone can submit a request for a mail-in absentee ballot. I think I may just do that. NJ is a lock for Obama, Sen. Bob Menendez is fairly safe too, and there aren't any state senate or legislature seat up. But there is a chance (although not likely) that I can dump Jon Runyan as my congressman. That right there would be enough motivation to make me fill out the request. The very strong likelyhood that we'll have a gay marriage ballot measure throws an anvil on that scale.

DivideByZero

jkylefulton wrote: »

I would kind of like both Obama and Romney to explain how something like this can happen:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/no-criminal-case-is-likely-in-loss-at-mf-global/?hp

$1 Billion gets stolen, and no one goes to jail?

Yeah that one's fucking lovely.

"We have no idea where any of the money went or whose money it actually was or how to get any of it back or who was actually responsible. This shit was just way too complicated!"

Sorry but if that's the case, your god damn company and every one like it are Too Complicated To Exist.