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    StormyWatersStormyWaters Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Seriously, the impact of Scorpius cannot be overstated. Here's a picture of him:

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    You see how he looks? He's actually far more intimidating when he's threatening the characters. He spends over 2 full seasons trying to pry secrets out of Crichton, and it is not pretty, because unlike most villains, Scorpius is fucking smart.

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    Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Indeed, Scorpius is by far the greatest super-villain ever. Still waiting for him to turn up on Stargate though (since y'know, they stole half the cast of Farscape already).

    As for Star Treks, most everyone is right; you need to watch DS9 in order for it to make any sense. You also just need to watch DS9, period. Greatest Trek ever.
    be especially sure to catch when Sisko breaks half a dozen Federation laws to get the Romulans on side and the episode when Gowron gets his comeuppance at the hands of Worf.
    One thing I think they should have followed up on; that planet they found right early in the first season, where Kai Opaka died; that immortality nanovirus really could have done with some expansion...

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    Swimming BirdSwimming Bird __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2007
    Stargate SG1 > Voyager, TOS, Enterprise

    M I RYTE?!

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    NexusSixNexusSix Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Seriously, the impact of Scorpius cannot be overstated. Here's a picture of him:

    You should've really blown their minds with a shot of his cranium coolant system... open. The first time I saw that fucking thing spin out of his head, I knew I was watching the greatest thing put on TV. Evar. :)

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    VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Torso Boy wrote: »
    I think Jubal Early should get his own show.

    In the Star Trek universe.

    I think Serenity would have been substantially cooler if Jubal had been the operative.

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    ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Bringing back that Holodeck + pr0n thing...

    I recall an episode of DS9 where Quark is trying to get Kira Nerys scanned into a holocube-thingo so that some rich guy could have sex with her in the holodeck. There's a lot of times in DS9 where it's mentioned that people do crazy shit on Holodecks since Quark runs his own.

    That's if my memory holds well. My DVDs are in storage for the time being.

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    drakesylvandrakesylvan Registered User new member
    edited March 2007
    Well first off, Enterprise was the worst of all the series. It didn't even get good until season 4, when the started to use Brent Spiner. The whole thing was really a slap in the face of all trekkies. After the dull Voyager series you would have thought they would have done an update series in TNG after Nemesis. Like Riker commanding the Titan, and the continued Dominion wars, Romulan wars with the klingons, borg, or so on.

    But instead they added a pre pre pre enterprise to the list, which was not in the Star Trek history of enterprises. And they slapped us in the face more, by having a crappy opening title song. It just was a waste of money, and I'm glad its cancelled.

    Hopefully the starfleet academy series will take off with Guest starings from Patrick Stewart. But we can only hope on that.

    I have mixed feelings on the new prequal movie, or as the writers put it, "update movie" www.startrek.com for more info on that.

    While I like Matt Dammon as an actor, I'm not sure he can pull off the arrogance of Kirk. And who knows who'll play Spock. Hopefully it won't be David Shwimmer.

    In the end the best trek was in order from best to worst TNG, Orginal series, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise.

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    edited March 2007
    Arikado wrote: »
    I recall an episode of DS9 where Quark is trying to get Kira Nerys scanned into a holocube-thingo so that some rich guy could have sex with her in the holodeck. There's a lot of times in DS9 where it's mentioned that people do crazy shit on Holodecks since Quark runs his own.

    They called them "holosuites" on DS9 and yeah. Quark rented them out and it was strongly implied that the most popular scenarios were sexual in nature.

    It's also implied in several episodes of TNG that using the Enterprise holodeck to get your rocks off was highly frowned upon. It's kind of like using your employer's computer network to surf porn.

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    StormyWatersStormyWaters Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Feral wrote: »
    Arikado wrote: »
    I recall an episode of DS9 where Quark is trying to get Kira Nerys scanned into a holocube-thingo so that some rich guy could have sex with her in the holodeck. There's a lot of times in DS9 where it's mentioned that people do crazy shit on Holodecks since Quark runs his own.

    They called them "holosuites" on DS9 and yeah. Quark rented them out and it was strongly implied that the most popular scenarios were sexual in nature.

    It's also implied in several episodes of TNG that using the Enterprise holodeck to get your rocks off was highly frowned upon. It's kind of like using your employer's computer network to surf porn.

    That's why the Barclay episode was so great. Not only was he doing something forbidden, he was doing it with representations of the command staff.

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    LiveWireLiveWire Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I really really like Voyager. A lot.

    I'm not going to apologize for this, no.

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    ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    LiveWire wrote: »
    I really really like Voyager. A lot.

    I'm not going to apologize for this, no.

    I'm sorry you like it.

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I hated any episode with Barclay and I despise anyone who liked them.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    LiveWire wrote: »
    I really really like Voyager. A lot.

    I'm not going to apologize for this, no.
    You should.

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    DuckterPepperDuckterPepper Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Richy wrote: »
    Or you could just get hung up on "OMG MUPPETS!" and miss out on one of the best sci-fi shows of the decade.

    damn. now i feel like i really missed that show, i have to get my hands on it. so much positive post about it... will give it a try.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Al_wat wrote: »
    I hated any episode with Barclay and I despise anyone who liked them.
    I liked Barclay, not so much for his episodes, but for his character. The overstressed socially-inept guy who always looks like he's a minute away from a nervous breakdown. He's just so much fun to watch.

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The one thing that made me go gngn the most in Voyager was how they kept coming up with brilliant new technologies... then throwing them away the MOMENT they either failed once, or were done with their immediate purpose.

    "We need to fight the Borg. We shall now do the coolest thing of all Trek and equip our ship with Borg technology, potencially leading to glorious storylines."
    "There, episode over, we won. Now we'll remove them, because we sure as hell don't want a well-equipped ship in hostile territories. I mean, we still have those (38 - 312) photon torpedos to fire off."

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Glal wrote: »
    The one thing that made me go gngn the most in Voyager was how they kept coming up with brilliant new technologies... then throwing them away the MOMENT they either failed once, or were done with their immediate purpose.

    "We need to fight the Borg. We shall now do the coolest thing of all Trek and equip our ship with Borg technology, potencially leading to glorious storylines."
    "There, episode over, we won. Now we'll remove them, because we sure as hell don't want a well-equipped ship in hostile territories. I mean, we still have those (38 - 312) photon torpedos to fire off."
    Well, it's not like Voyager needed to be well equiped. They had an infinite supply of photon torpedoes and shuddlepods, as well as the Delta Flyer which could bend the laws of physics (given that they could fit it in a shuttlebay that was smaller than it), the ship got magically repaired each week, the deflector array could be reconfigured to fire a plot device beam at anything they needed to have a beam fired at to solve the plot, and Janeway always had a finger on the time-travel reset button in case things got bad.

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    AngelofVengeanceAngelofVengeance Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    That's one reason I like Star Wars better than Star Trek. In Wars, when they retrofit a ship with cool technology, they damn well use it!

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Glal wrote: »
    The one thing that made me go gngn the most in Voyager was how they kept coming up with brilliant new technologies... then throwing them away the MOMENT they either failed once, or were done with their immediate purpose.

    "We need to fight the Borg. We shall now do the coolest thing of all Trek and equip our ship with Borg technology, potencially leading to glorious storylines."
    "There, episode over, we won. Now we'll remove them, because we sure as hell don't want a well-equipped ship in hostile territories. I mean, we still have those (38 - 312) photon torpedos to fire off."
    Sample Voyager plot: "We have invented a device that will get us HOME! The device turns out to have some flaws though. Rather than fix those flaws and try again, let us never speak of this again."

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    LiveWire wrote: »
    I really really like Voyager. A lot.

    I'm not going to apologize for this, no.

    That is between you and your God.

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    StormyWatersStormyWaters Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    august wrote: »
    LiveWire wrote: »
    I really really like Voyager. A lot.

    I'm not going to apologize for this, no.

    That is between you and your God.

    A man like that has been forsaken by God.

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    ZimmydoomZimmydoom Accept no substitutes Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    One of my favorite running sub-plots in DS9 was the development of Rom and Nog. They started off as pathetic comic relief and wound up crazy-badasses (Rom the idiot savant with the big-tittied hottie, and Nog 3'4" of tempered lobes and steel).

    Pretty much anything involving the Ferengi was the shit, due in large part to the fact that you never go in with a Grand Nagus when death is on the line.

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    HybridHybrid South AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    shryke wrote: »
    Hybrid wrote: »
    I only ever watched Star Trek on and off, never got right into it even though I enjoyed it, but my favourites where TNG, TOS, and DS9. I never really got into voyager at all, and only saw season 1 of Enterprise.

    One episode of DS9 I (vaguely) remember, is one with a cardasian (???) terrorist, who had gone under a face change or something and turned out to be another person. Damned if I can remember exactly what happened now, because I saw it ages ago, but I remember it being a really good episode, so maybe someone can help me figure out what episode it was?

    It's called Duet, it's the second last episode of season 1 and yes, it's one of the best episodes of Trek around. I was about to bring that up. The war wasn't the only good thing about DS9, they actually made alot of great stand-alones too.

    Also, anything involving Garek is automatically awesome.

    PS -
    FYI, the plot is they capture a Cardassian travelling on a ship docking at the station who's supposed to be this guy named Gul Darhe'el, who is resposible for some of the most horrible examples of torture and death from the occupation. It goes from there.

    Ah thanks so much for the info man!

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    august wrote: »
    LiveWire wrote: »
    I really really like Voyager. A lot.

    I'm not going to apologize for this, no.

    That is between you and your God.

    A man like that has been forsaken by God.

    The real question is "What does God need with a starship?"

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    ZimmydoomZimmydoom Accept no substitutes Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Al_wat wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    LiveWire wrote: »
    I really really like Voyager. A lot.

    I'm not going to apologize for this, no.

    That is between you and your God.

    A man like that has been forsaken by God.

    The real question is "What does God need with a starship?"

    To drive around and impress the space hotties.

    Fucking duh.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Voyager picked up the last two seasons or so.

    Still pisses me off that fucking Janeway outranked Picard in the later movie tho.

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Voyager picked up the last two seasons or so.

    Still pisses me off that fucking Janeway outranked Picard in the later movie tho.

    wait WHAT?!

    If this happened in Nemesis, I guess I don't remember much from that movie.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Al_wat wrote: »
    wait WHAT?!

    If this happened in Nemesis, I guess I don't remember much from that movie.
    Yeah, there was a brief scene in the begining in which Picard gets a call from Admiral Janeway.

    If you don't remember it, you're not missing much.

    In fact, if you don't remember anything at all from that movie, you're not missing much. Pretty much the only good thing in that movie was Picard's "Mr. Troi" comment.

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    Operative21Operative21 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Senjutsu wrote:
    Sample Voyager plot: "We have invented a device that will get us HOME! The device turns out to have some flaws though. Rather than fix those flaws and try again, let us never speak of this again."

    Not to mention my personal favorite: "We have a way HOME but we can't use it because of the Prime Directive so we'll refuse to use it. Furthermore, the culture that happens to be in possession of the means home has pissed us off, so we'll just torpedo the living shit out of them."
    Hybrid wrote:
    Also, anything involving Garek is automatically awesome.

    I agree. I rather liked Garek just because from a moral standpoint he was so unusually gray for a Trek storyline. For that matter, there was something I liked about the DS9 crew. Even though they started out as being relatively unremarkable, they evolved quite a bit as characters throughout the series. Except for O'Brien perhaps, he never really developed any significant changes to his character I don't think.

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Well, he developed into a character at all. Before he just did a job the computer could have done itself.

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    shutzshutz Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I haven't read this full thread yet, so I might be repeating some of the things that others have already said.

    Here's how I came to watch each series, and what I think of each:

    TOS: when I was little, TOS reruns would be on Sunday mornings, and my parents would rather watch that than let me watch my cartoons, so I hated it. Then, only a year or two before TNG started, I warmed to the series, and started liking it.

    Obviously, a lot of it is now ridiculously camp and hard to take seriously, but I'd say that at least half the episodes are still very watchable if you put your attention on the plots, science-fictional elements and drama. Try and catch the newly "enhanced" or "remastered" episodes that have been trickling out since last fall: they're mostly fixing the episodes in order of "best" to "worst", so that the great majority of the episodes that have aired are some of the best from that series. If you're willing to accept that TV and TV acting was different in the 60's, you'll find some pretty impressive acting in there.

    Another way to ensure that you'll see most of the better episodes while avoiding the worst is to watch seasons 1 and 2, and skip season 3 altogether. While it S3 does have a few good episodes, it has a lot of really bad ones (I haven't found anyone who thinks "Spock's Brain" is a good episode).

    TNG: I was already a fan when this started, and I kind of grew up on it. When I watch it again now, especially the first two seasons of the show, I kind of feel the same way Wil Wheaton (who played Wesley Crusher) seems to feel in his column on TVSquad: http://www.tvsquad.com/category/star-trek-the-next-generation/
    With the third season, something happened: the show became more popular, it got more money, it became less hokey and less dependant on what TOS was, so I'd say that's when it came into its own. It also ends with the series' best episode (well, the first half of it, since it's a cliffhanger, and the second half is the next season's opener.) Maybe this series' biggest fault (some would see it more as a quality, however) is that it's very episodic, and not very continuous. There are very few story "arcs" that go through the series.

    DS9: I watched a bit of this when it started, and it felt slightly inferior to TNG. It was also harder to watch, as it was usually on at the same time as TNG during the first two seasons, so I just stopped watching it. That proved to be a big mistake. When TNG ended, I went straight into Voyager (I still lived with my parents, so they were the ones who decided, mostly...) and never got a chance to get back into DS9.

    Years later, when I got my own apartment, I got a chance to watch this series from beginning to end, at my own rhythm (which was an average of 2 episodes per night, every night, and I'd sometimes watch up to 4 episodes in one night!) With this fast progression, I got past the so-so first two seasons, and reached the third season and beyond, which is where the show really got into its own. The show's darkness may have been a big turn-off for some fans, but I loved it. It made the show more mature, for me. Also, having a more ongoing storyline (there still were many standalone episodes, but a lot of those would at least include one or two moments that linked that episode into the larger narrative) made the show more compelling for me, especially the 6th and 7th seasons.

    At the time, I was also watching through Babylon 5 for the first time, in the same quick succession (I'd watch episodes of both shows almost every day.) Babylon 5 is a superior show to DS9, but I'd have to say that seasons 3-7 of DS9 can hold their own against the whole of B5. Even with all their similarities (rumor has it that J. Michael Straczinsky pitched a precursor of B5 to the Star Trek people, who turned him down, then turned around and created DS9 while he made B5) the two shows are very different, and are about different things. For me, DS9 is the most "complete" show, in that it really feels like they did all they set out to do with it, and it ends well.

    Voyager: I liked Voyager while I watched it in its first run, but I gradually got turned off by a few things: first, they had a few characters that never became what they promised to be (Tom Paris should have remained a lot more rebellious to keep the show interesting, and the whole idea of merging two incompatible crews was quickly discarded when it could have made for a much more interesting show -- maybe they should have kept that Maquis ship with them as part of the ongoing story, and then you have Harry Kim, who they never figured out what to do with, and you have Kes, who left the show when she figured out that they had no idea what to do with her either.) But my main annoyance with this show was the fact that almost every episode turned into a big moral dilemma for the captain. It got tiresome very quickly.

    There's some very good episodes in there (my own personal favorite being the two-part movie "Year of Hell", which blew me away the first time I saw it. Best watched in one go, no need to take a break for the cliffhanger) but Voyager fell short of what it could have been, in that it got bogged down by moral dilemmas instead of being about exploration of the unknown, which is what it should have been about. They clearly rushed the end of the series when they could have stretched it across more episodes and made it seem less contrived. Few fans liked that ending.

    Enterprise: I really wanted to like this show. It started well (I'm one of the few people who seemed to like the theme, at least in its first incarnation... it had the yearning that I feel the show was about, the thing about wanting to reach out and become more... oh well...) but within 5-6 episodes, started to fall into the same traps that Voyager fell into. The second season was even worse, with storylines that seemed to have been recycled from previous series (with a few notable exceptions, but not enough to redeem the whole series.)

    Then, the producers finally realized that the show needed a major shakedown, to wake up the now bored viewers and maybe grab back some of the fans who liked DS9, but hated Voyager: they decided to add a big story arc to the show. So they gave the crew an overarching mission for the whole of the third season, and I was initially excited! I thought they would heighten the tension and give us some really cool new Trek to watch, but in the end, the premise for that arc was too thin, the plot for the season was too contrived, and fans started hating the series even more.

    The show was threatened with cancellation, but survived for one more season. Pity it was to be its best season. They hired someone who was a huge Trek fan, and who realized that what a prequel series needed was to get tied into the whole of the franchise, which was something the previous seasons seemed to try to avoid like the plague (I wonder why?) So we got 2- and 3- part episodes about a "revolution" on Vulcan, about leftovers from the Eugenic wars (including an ancestor of Data's creator) and we got to visit the Andorian homeworld. Oh, and we also got to meet Romulans, in a way that still fit within previously-established cannon.

    Apart from the finale, which a lot of fans hated, that season has some of the best stories in all of Star Trek. It's a real pity the show was canceled right when it was becoming good, but it was just too late, too many fans had deserted, and the franchise needed a major break including getting rid of the now "old" guard that had been there since TNG, notably Rick Berman and Brannon Braga.

    The upcoming movie was written and will be produced and likely directed by J.J. Abrams, of LOST fame, so there's a good chance it'll be exciting. It will involve young versions of Kirk, Spock and McCoy, probably meeting for the first time and having their first adventures. This may end up being a kind of "reboot" for the franchise, which is something that Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczinsky pitched to the Star Trek Powers that Be a few years ago:
    http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf
    (warning, PDF link!)

    If you really want to give Star Trek a chance, I'd recommend watching each series in sequence (there are various ways of doing this, some cheaper than others but I won't list them here.) The only series that isn't hurt by random viewing order is TOS, the others have enough in the way of small or large story arcs that you'll apreciate the show better if you watch it in sequence. In particular, DS9 is going to suck royally for you if you don't watch it in sequence.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Senjutsu wrote:
    Sample Voyager plot: "We have invented a device that will get us HOME! The device turns out to have some flaws though. Rather than fix those flaws and try again, let us never speak of this again."

    Not to mention my personal favorite: "We have a way HOME but we can't use it because of the Prime Directive so we'll refuse to use it. Furthermore, the culture that happens to be in possession of the means home has pissed us off, so we'll just torpedo the living shit out of them."
    I don't remember that one. Which one was that?

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    VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Richy wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote:
    Sample Voyager plot: "We have invented a device that will get us HOME! The device turns out to have some flaws though. Rather than fix those flaws and try again, let us never speak of this again."

    Not to mention my personal favorite: "We have a way HOME but we can't use it because of the Prime Directive so we'll refuse to use it. Furthermore, the culture that happens to be in possession of the means home has pissed us off, so we'll just torpedo the living shit out of them."
    I don't remember that one. Which one was that?
    I believe that was the first few episodes involving the Caretaker.

    Or actually it could be one of several "similar" story arcs.

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    TreelootTreeloot Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, i definitely left out a few, like 4400, X-files, etc, Earth 2, which I don't have as much experience with.

    This is kinda turning into a general sci-fi show thread, so I'll mention some of my favorite shows.

    The 4400 is a fun show to watch. If you haven't seen it, imagine sort of a mix of X-men (characters with sweet powers) and X-Files (Male and female partner investigate incidents involving characters) kind of thing. As an added bonus, new episodes air during the summer when only a few other shows are airing new episodes.

    I've gotten really into Battlestar Galactica lately (I just finished up season 2), I don't really have anything else to say about the show, except that I can't wait to watch season 3. My dad said he enjoyed the original Battlestar Galactica (and plans on watching the new series), is the old one worth watching?

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote:
    Sample Voyager plot: "We have invented a device that will get us HOME! The device turns out to have some flaws though. Rather than fix those flaws and try again, let us never speak of this again."

    Not to mention my personal favorite: "We have a way HOME but we can't use it because of the Prime Directive so we'll refuse to use it. Furthermore, the culture that happens to be in possession of the means home has pissed us off, so we'll just torpedo the living shit out of them."
    I don't remember that one. Which one was that?
    I believe that was the first few episodes involving the Caretaker.

    Or actually it could be one of several "similar" story arcs.
    The "refusing to use some technology to get home because of X" storyline came back a lot, yes. It was the "torpedo the living shit out of a primitive culture" one that I was asking about. That sounds like something I would remember.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Treeloot wrote: »
    My dad said he enjoyed the original Battlestar Galactica (and plans on watching the new series), is the old one worth watching?
    First of all, you should see the old and new BSG as two different shows. Because they are. Aside from a few common character names and the most general points of the premise (Colonies wiped out by Cylons, Galactica headed for Earth), they have nothing in common.

    That said, I did enjoy the old BSG, which I saw years before the remake came around. It was fun and entertaining. But nothing more. Most storylines have plot holes so big you could fit the entire fleet in them, so don't try to think too much about them. There none of the character development and moral dilemas that make the new series so awesome. And for the love of the gods stay away from Galactica 1980.

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    shutzshutz Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Treeloot wrote: »
    I've gotten really into Battlestar Galactica lately (I just finished up season 2), I don't really have anything else to say about the show, except that I can't wait to watch season 3. My dad said he enjoyed the original Battlestar Galactica (and plans on watching the new series), is the old one worth watching?

    It's worth watching if you don't mind watching something that's almost entirely different from the current incarnation of BSG.

    It's like the difference between Star Trek TOS and TNG, except that TOS took itself more seriously than the old BSG ever did. It's a fun show, with a few interesting SF ideas, but the new BSG is a WAY better show.

    I recommend trying to find the pilot movie of the old series. If you like that, keep watching. Just be ready to endure seeing the same 4 FX shots over and over and over, and, oh wow, they spliced that last one backwards so it looks like a new shot even though it's the same old shot!

    Really, it's one of the better non-Star Trek shows from before the 90's, but that just isn't saying much.

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    Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Oh dear. Glactica 1980. You had to go and bring that up didn't you?
    For those of you who aren't up to speed on this, BSG is to Galactica 1980 as TOS is to Enterprise... I think they had the time travelling fighters in the first episode, right? And then there was the whole "alien boy scouts get sick from earth toxins" bit...
    Also, we find out why the Cylons never won with their superior numbers, technology and strategy: The basic Cylon's default capture evasion protocol is suicide. Yes, you heard right; to avoid capture your average Cylon warrior dude is programmed to destroy itself by any means available, even to the point of disobeying a direct order not to from a superior and killing that superior at the same time.

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    The NazariteThe Nazarite Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I'm surprised nobody mentioned Star Trek the Animated Series. Then again, it's probably best that we forget about it.

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    TroubledTomTroubledTom regular
    edited March 2007
    I'm surprised nobody mentioned Star Trek the Animated Series. Then again, it's probably best that we forget about it.

    Why? It's not so bad. The animation was serviceable, and the plots were decent. Close to being on par with TOS plotwise, at times.


    The voice acting is among the worst I've ever heard though. Shatner sounds like somebody handed him a script and he literally phoned it in.

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