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I thought Kuja in FF9 was pretty good. Nothing extraordinary, but he was good.
Better than that lame witch in FF8.
I'm guessing no one told you:
Rinoa is the final boss
Or in short. Rinoa = Ultimecia
Feel free to ask for elaboration.
uh, I think you forgot a whole lot about the ending.....
Or you forgot a whole lot of the middle.
no, you're flat out wrong
Final Fantasy VIII opens as Squall Leonhart duels with his rival, Seifer Almasy, in a training session outside the military academy known as "Garden". During the bout, the two cadets scar one another's faces and are returned to Garden for treatment.[15] Meanwhile, the Galbadian regime, led by Vinzer Deling, invades the Dollet Dukedom, forcing Dollet to hire the Balamb Garden branch of "SeeD" — Garden's elite mercenary force — for aid. SeeD uses the mission as a field examination for its graduation-eligible cadets,[16] and with the help of his instructor, Quistis Trepe, Squall passes its prerequisite. While SeeD prepares for the assault, Squall is assigned to an assault squad with Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy. In Dollet, Seifer abandons his team halfway through the mission, forcing Selphie Tilmitt to accompany Squall and Zell for the duration. After the player completes the mission, SeeD halts the Galbadian advance, Squall, Zell and Selphie graduate to SeeD status, and Seifer is disciplined for acting independently.
Shortly after graduating, Squall meets a young woman named "Rinoa Heartilly", whose attitude and approach to life are apparently the opposite of his own. Assigned to help her Galbadian-resistance on his first mission, along with Zell and Selphie, Squall learns that a sorceress named "Edea" is the mastermind behind Galbadia's hostilities. Edea soon kills Deling and turns Galbadia into an imperial dictatorship.[17] Under orders from both Galbadia and Balamb's Gardens, Squall and his comrades — now joined by Quistis and sharpshooter Irvine Kinneas — attempt to assassinate the sorceress. Despite a nearly flawless execution of the plan — arranged by Galbadia's own General Caraway, Rinoa's father — the party is defeated and imprisoned. Squall's party also learns that Seifer has left Garden to become Edea's second-in-command.[18]
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
After escaping prison, the team splits into two units, both of which are controlled by the player in separate scenarios. Squall's group stops an internal conflict at Balamb Garden incited by NORG, SeeD's financial supporter, while Selphie's squad fails to prevent a Galbadian missile attack on Balamb and Trabia Garden. The missile launch forces Squall to turn Balamb Garden into a mobile fortress to avoid the attack, leaving the facility temporarily uncontrollable until it collides with the docks at Fisherman's Horizon in the middle of the ocean. While Squall negotiates with the mayor of the town, Galbadia invades in search of a girl named "Ellone", who had been staying at the Garden until recently.
Throughout the game, Ellone sends Squall and his allies into a series of flashbacks set seventeen years in the past. The scenes center on a man named "Laguna" and his two friends, Kiros and Ward. During the flashbacks, Laguna changes from Galbadian soldier to the self-appointed defender of a small country village, and then to the president of Esthar, the game's technological superpower.
Meanwhile, Squall deals with personal conflicts fueled by the game's ongoing developments,[19] such as Balamb Garden's Headmaster Cid appointing him as SeeD's new leader,[20] and his increasing love for Rinoa. Squall particularly struggles with the latter, as he had previously shut out all feelings of affection due to a fear of becoming vulnerable.
As Edea and Seifer continue sweeping the world in search of Ellone, matters are complicated further during an investigation of Trabia Garden's ruins. Squall and his comrades learn that — with the exception of Rinoa — they were raised along with Seifer and Ellone in an orphanage run by Edea, and later developed amnesia due to their use of Guardian Forces. Furthermore, it is revealed that Edea is Cid's wife, and together the two had founded Garden and SeeD to defeat evil sorceresses.[21]
Later in the game, the full forces of Balamb Garden and the Galbadian army (using the now-mobilized Galbadia Garden), led by Squall and Seifer respectively, engage in conflict. After Balamb defeats Galbadia, the player learns that Edea is merely an unwilling tool for a greater sorceress known as "Ultimecia", who resides in the future and wishes to compress all time into a single moment. This would grant her the power of all sorceresses that ever existed; it is for this reason she has sought Ellone.[22][23] A conclusive battle with Edea forces Ultimecia to transfer her powers to Rinoa, allowing Edea to survive, but leaving Rinoa frozen in a deep coma. Squall becomes obsessed with waking her and seeks the help of Dr. Odine, a renowned scientist living in Esthar. However, while Rinoa is being treated on Esthar's space station, Ultimecia uses her to free Adel, an imprisoned sorceress responsible for the war of seventeen years past. Ultimecia then orders Seifer to activate Esthar's Lunatic Pandora facility, inciting a rain of monsters from the moon in a phenomenon called the "Lunar Cry". This brings Adel's containment device from space to the planet's surface, while simultaneously leaving Esthar swarming with monsters.[24]
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Having selected Adel as her next host, Ultimecia abandons Rinoa in the void of outer space. Squall rescues her, but they become stranded until they encounter a derelict spaceship. After using it to return to the planet's surface, they are approached by delegates from Esthar, who lock Rinoa away in fear of her sorceress abilities.[25] Squall and his companions rescue Rinoa and finally meet Laguna, revealed to be Ellone's adopted father. Together with Dr. Odine, a plan is devised to let Ultimecia use Ellone to compress time, as it would allow Squall's group to confront Ultimecia in her own era. As Time Compression begins, Squall is forced to duel Seifer once again and kill Adel when she attempts to assimilate Rinoa. With their friendship serving as their bond to reality, Squall and his friends immunize themselves to the effects of Time Compression, travel to Ultimecia's era and defeat her.[26]
As Ultimecia is defeated, the universe begins returning to normal, and Squall is nearly lost in the flow of time as he witnesses the origins of the game's entire story. When a dying Ultimecia travels back in time to pass her powers to Edea thirteen years in Squall's past, he informs Edea of the concepts of Garden and SeeD that she will create. Afterward, he is warped away into the timestream and is unable to find his own way back to the present until he is rescued by Rinoa. At the end of the game, SeeD holds a banquet to celebrate their victory, and Squall is shown kissing Rinoa while smiling for the first time in the game.
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I thought Kuja in FF9 was pretty good. Nothing extraordinary, but he was good.
Better than that lame witch in FF8.
I'm guessing no one told you:
Rinoa is the final boss
Or in short. Rinoa = Ultimecia
Feel free to ask for elaboration.
uh, I think you forgot a whole lot about the ending.....
Or you forgot a whole lot of the middle.
no, you're flat out wrong
Final Fantasy VIII opens as Squall Leonhart duels with his rival, Seifer Almasy, in a training session outside the military academy known as "Garden". During the bout, the two cadets scar one another's faces and are returned to Garden for treatment.[15] Meanwhile, the Galbadian regime, led by Vinzer Deling, invades the Dollet Dukedom, forcing Dollet to hire the Balamb Garden branch of "SeeD" — Garden's elite mercenary force — for aid. SeeD uses the mission as a field examination for its graduation-eligible cadets,[16] and with the help of his instructor, Quistis Trepe, Squall passes its prerequisite. While SeeD prepares for the assault, Squall is assigned to an assault squad with Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy. In Dollet, Seifer abandons his team halfway through the mission, forcing Selphie Tilmitt to accompany Squall and Zell for the duration. After the player completes the mission, SeeD halts the Galbadian advance, Squall, Zell and Selphie graduate to SeeD status, and Seifer is disciplined for acting independently.
Shortly after graduating, Squall meets a young woman named "Rinoa Heartilly", whose attitude and approach to life are apparently the opposite of his own. Assigned to help her Galbadian-resistance on his first mission, along with Zell and Selphie, Squall learns that a sorceress named "Edea" is the mastermind behind Galbadia's hostilities. Edea soon kills Deling and turns Galbadia into an imperial dictatorship.[17] Under orders from both Galbadia and Balamb's Gardens, Squall and his comrades — now joined by Quistis and sharpshooter Irvine Kinneas — attempt to assassinate the sorceress. Despite a nearly flawless execution of the plan — arranged by Galbadia's own General Caraway, Rinoa's father — the party is defeated and imprisoned. Squall's party also learns that Seifer has left Garden to become Edea's second-in-command.[18]
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
After escaping prison, the team splits into two units, both of which are controlled by the player in separate scenarios. Squall's group stops an internal conflict at Balamb Garden incited by NORG, SeeD's financial supporter, while Selphie's squad fails to prevent a Galbadian missile attack on Balamb and Trabia Garden. The missile launch forces Squall to turn Balamb Garden into a mobile fortress to avoid the attack, leaving the facility temporarily uncontrollable until it collides with the docks at Fisherman's Horizon in the middle of the ocean. While Squall negotiates with the mayor of the town, Galbadia invades in search of a girl named "Ellone", who had been staying at the Garden until recently.
Throughout the game, Ellone sends Squall and his allies into a series of flashbacks set seventeen years in the past. The scenes center on a man named "Laguna" and his two friends, Kiros and Ward. During the flashbacks, Laguna changes from Galbadian soldier to the self-appointed defender of a small country village, and then to the president of Esthar, the game's technological superpower.
Meanwhile, Squall deals with personal conflicts fueled by the game's ongoing developments,[19] such as Balamb Garden's Headmaster Cid appointing him as SeeD's new leader,[20] and his increasing love for Rinoa. Squall particularly struggles with the latter, as he had previously shut out all feelings of affection due to a fear of becoming vulnerable.
As Edea and Seifer continue sweeping the world in search of Ellone, matters are complicated further during an investigation of Trabia Garden's ruins. Squall and his comrades learn that — with the exception of Rinoa — they were raised along with Seifer and Ellone in an orphanage run by Edea, and later developed amnesia due to their use of Guardian Forces. Furthermore, it is revealed that Edea is Cid's wife, and together the two had founded Garden and SeeD to defeat evil sorceresses.[21]
Later in the game, the full forces of Balamb Garden and the Galbadian army (using the now-mobilized Galbadia Garden), led by Squall and Seifer respectively, engage in conflict. After Balamb defeats Galbadia, the player learns that Edea is merely an unwilling tool for a greater sorceress known as "Ultimecia", who resides in the future and wishes to compress all time into a single moment. This would grant her the power of all sorceresses that ever existed; it is for this reason she has sought Ellone.[22][23] A conclusive battle with Edea forces Ultimecia to transfer her powers to Rinoa, allowing Edea to survive, but leaving Rinoa frozen in a deep coma. Squall becomes obsessed with waking her and seeks the help of Dr. Odine, a renowned scientist living in Esthar. However, while Rinoa is being treated on Esthar's space station, Ultimecia uses her to free Adel, an imprisoned sorceress responsible for the war of seventeen years past. Ultimecia then orders Seifer to activate Esthar's Lunatic Pandora facility, inciting a rain of monsters from the moon in a phenomenon called the "Lunar Cry". This brings Adel's containment device from space to the planet's surface, while simultaneously leaving Esthar swarming with monsters.[24]
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Having selected Adel as her next host, Ultimecia abandons Rinoa in the void of outer space. Squall rescues her, but they become stranded until they encounter a derelict spaceship. After using it to return to the planet's surface, they are approached by delegates from Esthar, who lock Rinoa away in fear of her sorceress abilities.[25] Squall and his companions rescue Rinoa and finally meet Laguna, revealed to be Ellone's adopted father. Together with Dr. Odine, a plan is devised to let Ultimecia use Ellone to compress time, as it would allow Squall's group to confront Ultimecia in her own era. As Time Compression begins, Squall is forced to duel Seifer once again and kill Adel when she attempts to assimilate Rinoa. With their friendship serving as their bond to reality, Squall and his friends immunize themselves to the effects of Time Compression, travel to Ultimecia's era and defeat her.[26]
As Ultimecia is defeated, the universe begins returning to normal, and Squall is nearly lost in the flow of time as he witnesses the origins of the game's entire story. When a dying Ultimecia travels back in time to pass her powers to Edea thirteen years in Squall's past, he informs Edea of the concepts of Garden and SeeD that she will create. Afterward, he is warped away into the timestream and is unable to find his own way back to the present until he is rescued by Rinoa. At the end of the game, SeeD holds a banquet to celebrate their victory, and Squall is shown kissing Rinoa while smiling for the first time in the game.
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Why did you just quote me an entire page from wiki? You really think I'm going to read that summary?
Point to me the part that says Rinoa isn't ultimecia.
I thought Kuja in FF9 was pretty good. Nothing extraordinary, but he was good.
Better than that lame witch in FF8.
I'm guessing no one told you:
Rinoa is the final boss
Or in short. Rinoa = Ultimecia
Feel free to ask for elaboration.
uh, I think you forgot a whole lot about the ending.....
Or you forgot a whole lot of the middle.
no, you're flat out wrong
Final Fantasy VIII opens as Squall Leonhart duels with his rival, Seifer Almasy, in a training session outside the military academy known as "Garden". During the bout, the two cadets scar one another's faces and are returned to Garden for treatment.[15] Meanwhile, the Galbadian regime, led by Vinzer Deling, invades the Dollet Dukedom, forcing Dollet to hire the Balamb Garden branch of "SeeD" — Garden's elite mercenary force — for aid. SeeD uses the mission as a field examination for its graduation-eligible cadets,[16] and with the help of his instructor, Quistis Trepe, Squall passes its prerequisite. While SeeD prepares for the assault, Squall is assigned to an assault squad with Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy. In Dollet, Seifer abandons his team halfway through the mission, forcing Selphie Tilmitt to accompany Squall and Zell for the duration. After the player completes the mission, SeeD halts the Galbadian advance, Squall, Zell and Selphie graduate to SeeD status, and Seifer is disciplined for acting independently.
Shortly after graduating, Squall meets a young woman named "Rinoa Heartilly", whose attitude and approach to life are apparently the opposite of his own. Assigned to help her Galbadian-resistance on his first mission, along with Zell and Selphie, Squall learns that a sorceress named "Edea" is the mastermind behind Galbadia's hostilities. Edea soon kills Deling and turns Galbadia into an imperial dictatorship.[17] Under orders from both Galbadia and Balamb's Gardens, Squall and his comrades — now joined by Quistis and sharpshooter Irvine Kinneas — attempt to assassinate the sorceress. Despite a nearly flawless execution of the plan — arranged by Galbadia's own General Caraway, Rinoa's father — the party is defeated and imprisoned. Squall's party also learns that Seifer has left Garden to become Edea's second-in-command.[18]
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
After escaping prison, the team splits into two units, both of which are controlled by the player in separate scenarios. Squall's group stops an internal conflict at Balamb Garden incited by NORG, SeeD's financial supporter, while Selphie's squad fails to prevent a Galbadian missile attack on Balamb and Trabia Garden. The missile launch forces Squall to turn Balamb Garden into a mobile fortress to avoid the attack, leaving the facility temporarily uncontrollable until it collides with the docks at Fisherman's Horizon in the middle of the ocean. While Squall negotiates with the mayor of the town, Galbadia invades in search of a girl named "Ellone", who had been staying at the Garden until recently.
Throughout the game, Ellone sends Squall and his allies into a series of flashbacks set seventeen years in the past. The scenes center on a man named "Laguna" and his two friends, Kiros and Ward. During the flashbacks, Laguna changes from Galbadian soldier to the self-appointed defender of a small country village, and then to the president of Esthar, the game's technological superpower.
Meanwhile, Squall deals with personal conflicts fueled by the game's ongoing developments,[19] such as Balamb Garden's Headmaster Cid appointing him as SeeD's new leader,[20] and his increasing love for Rinoa. Squall particularly struggles with the latter, as he had previously shut out all feelings of affection due to a fear of becoming vulnerable.
As Edea and Seifer continue sweeping the world in search of Ellone, matters are complicated further during an investigation of Trabia Garden's ruins. Squall and his comrades learn that — with the exception of Rinoa — they were raised along with Seifer and Ellone in an orphanage run by Edea, and later developed amnesia due to their use of Guardian Forces. Furthermore, it is revealed that Edea is Cid's wife, and together the two had founded Garden and SeeD to defeat evil sorceresses.[21]
Later in the game, the full forces of Balamb Garden and the Galbadian army (using the now-mobilized Galbadia Garden), led by Squall and Seifer respectively, engage in conflict. After Balamb defeats Galbadia, the player learns that Edea is merely an unwilling tool for a greater sorceress known as "Ultimecia", who resides in the future and wishes to compress all time into a single moment. This would grant her the power of all sorceresses that ever existed; it is for this reason she has sought Ellone.[22][23] A conclusive battle with Edea forces Ultimecia to transfer her powers to Rinoa, allowing Edea to survive, but leaving Rinoa frozen in a deep coma. Squall becomes obsessed with waking her and seeks the help of Dr. Odine, a renowned scientist living in Esthar. However, while Rinoa is being treated on Esthar's space station, Ultimecia uses her to free Adel, an imprisoned sorceress responsible for the war of seventeen years past. Ultimecia then orders Seifer to activate Esthar's Lunatic Pandora facility, inciting a rain of monsters from the moon in a phenomenon called the "Lunar Cry". This brings Adel's containment device from space to the planet's surface, while simultaneously leaving Esthar swarming with monsters.[24]
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Having selected Adel as her next host, Ultimecia abandons Rinoa in the void of outer space. Squall rescues her, but they become stranded until they encounter a derelict spaceship. After using it to return to the planet's surface, they are approached by delegates from Esthar, who lock Rinoa away in fear of her sorceress abilities.[25] Squall and his companions rescue Rinoa and finally meet Laguna, revealed to be Ellone's adopted father. Together with Dr. Odine, a plan is devised to let Ultimecia use Ellone to compress time, as it would allow Squall's group to confront Ultimecia in her own era. As Time Compression begins, Squall is forced to duel Seifer once again and kill Adel when she attempts to assimilate Rinoa. With their friendship serving as their bond to reality, Squall and his friends immunize themselves to the effects of Time Compression, travel to Ultimecia's era and defeat her.[26]
As Ultimecia is defeated, the universe begins returning to normal, and Squall is nearly lost in the flow of time as he witnesses the origins of the game's entire story. When a dying Ultimecia travels back in time to pass her powers to Edea thirteen years in Squall's past, he informs Edea of the concepts of Garden and SeeD that she will create. Afterward, he is warped away into the timestream and is unable to find his own way back to the present until he is rescued by Rinoa. At the end of the game, SeeD holds a banquet to celebrate their victory, and Squall is shown kissing Rinoa while smiling for the first time in the game.
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Why did you just quote me an entire page from wiki? You really think I'm going to read that summary?
Point to me the part that says Rinoa isn't ultimecia.
Having selected Adel as her next host, Ultimecia abandons Rinoa in the void of outer space. Squall rescues her, but they become stranded until they encounter a derelict spaceship. After using it to return to the planet's surface, they are approached by delegates from Esthar, who lock Rinoa away in fear of her sorceress abilities.[25] Squall and his companions rescue Rinoa and finally meet Laguna, revealed to be Ellone's adopted father. Together with Dr. Odine, a plan is devised to let Ultimecia use Ellone to compress time, as it would allow Squall's group to confront Ultimecia in her own era. As Time Compression begins, Squall is forced to duel Seifer once again and kill Adel when she attempts to assimilate Rinoa. With their friendship serving as their bond to reality, Squall and his friends immunize themselves to the effects of Time Compression, travel to Ultimecia's era and defeat her.
I couldn't really get into MGS. I'm too impatient.
I really want to though, because I hear the story is good.
It is. However, as with a lot of good games, you need to learn the gameplay mechanisms before you can really get into it. Go back and retry, only this time suspend your disbelief a little more so that you get into the mindset of "I'm outnumbered and outgunned here, so I need to keep shit quiet." With that in mind, the gameplay has a much better chance of getting through to you.
I stopped playing FF8 about halfway through because it was such a horrible game on pretty much every level. Someone explain the ending to me.
Wowwww this is rare, but I basically agree. I got to somewhere around the beginning of disc four, so I got a little further, but this was my analysis as well. It was the first FF game I had bought and not completed.
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Yeah I know you lose, that is why they dine in hell, because they lost
Come on guys
And it can be any god really, maybe an alien space god, or maybe Kratos as the God of War
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Guys we have to talk about how good Final Fantasy Tactics is.
If you haven't played it, blame yourself or god.
Also, Defender, I think I'll pick it up during the summer. There was a remake of the first one for the Gamecube, right?
There was, and there are some different views on it. On the one hand, the difficulty level is damaged and the first few boss fights are ruined by the first-person-view shooting ability (Ocelot's simply too easy to hit, and Mantis can't hit you with his telekenesis shit while you're lying down, so you can just lie down and blast him). On the other hand, the original had a lot of really annoying quirks and shit that needed to be smoothed out, plus the graphics were pretty bad.
So I'd recommend the remake even though it's a little bit too easy in certain spots, but others might recommend the original. I feel that the remake fixed some things and broke others, and that overall its improvements make up for its mistakes.
Blame yourself or god. Nice. FFT was awesome. Clunky interface, but the actual gameplay is just fucking awesome.
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I thought Kuja in FF9 was pretty good. Nothing extraordinary, but he was good.
Better than that lame witch in FF8.
I'm guessing no one told you:
Rinoa is the final boss
Or in short. Rinoa = Ultimecia
Feel free to ask for elaboration.
uh, I think you forgot a whole lot about the ending.....
Or you forgot a whole lot of the middle.
no, you're flat out wrong
Final Fantasy VIII opens as Squall Leonhart duels with his rival, Seifer Almasy, in a training session outside the military academy known as "Garden". During the bout, the two cadets scar one another's faces and are returned to Garden for treatment.[15] Meanwhile, the Galbadian regime, led by Vinzer Deling, invades the Dollet Dukedom, forcing Dollet to hire the Balamb Garden branch of "SeeD" — Garden's elite mercenary force — for aid. SeeD uses the mission as a field examination for its graduation-eligible cadets,[16] and with the help of his instructor, Quistis Trepe, Squall passes its prerequisite. While SeeD prepares for the assault, Squall is assigned to an assault squad with Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy. In Dollet, Seifer abandons his team halfway through the mission, forcing Selphie Tilmitt to accompany Squall and Zell for the duration. After the player completes the mission, SeeD halts the Galbadian advance, Squall, Zell and Selphie graduate to SeeD status, and Seifer is disciplined for acting independently.
Shortly after graduating, Squall meets a young woman named "Rinoa Heartilly", whose attitude and approach to life are apparently the opposite of his own. Assigned to help her Galbadian-resistance on his first mission, along with Zell and Selphie, Squall learns that a sorceress named "Edea" is the mastermind behind Galbadia's hostilities. Edea soon kills Deling and turns Galbadia into an imperial dictatorship.[17] Under orders from both Galbadia and Balamb's Gardens, Squall and his comrades — now joined by Quistis and sharpshooter Irvine Kinneas — attempt to assassinate the sorceress. Despite a nearly flawless execution of the plan — arranged by Galbadia's own General Caraway, Rinoa's father — the party is defeated and imprisoned. Squall's party also learns that Seifer has left Garden to become Edea's second-in-command.[18]
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
After escaping prison, the team splits into two units, both of which are controlled by the player in separate scenarios. Squall's group stops an internal conflict at Balamb Garden incited by NORG, SeeD's financial supporter, while Selphie's squad fails to prevent a Galbadian missile attack on Balamb and Trabia Garden. The missile launch forces Squall to turn Balamb Garden into a mobile fortress to avoid the attack, leaving the facility temporarily uncontrollable until it collides with the docks at Fisherman's Horizon in the middle of the ocean. While Squall negotiates with the mayor of the town, Galbadia invades in search of a girl named "Ellone", who had been staying at the Garden until recently.
Throughout the game, Ellone sends Squall and his allies into a series of flashbacks set seventeen years in the past. The scenes center on a man named "Laguna" and his two friends, Kiros and Ward. During the flashbacks, Laguna changes from Galbadian soldier to the self-appointed defender of a small country village, and then to the president of Esthar, the game's technological superpower.
Meanwhile, Squall deals with personal conflicts fueled by the game's ongoing developments,[19] such as Balamb Garden's Headmaster Cid appointing him as SeeD's new leader,[20] and his increasing love for Rinoa. Squall particularly struggles with the latter, as he had previously shut out all feelings of affection due to a fear of becoming vulnerable.
As Edea and Seifer continue sweeping the world in search of Ellone, matters are complicated further during an investigation of Trabia Garden's ruins. Squall and his comrades learn that — with the exception of Rinoa — they were raised along with Seifer and Ellone in an orphanage run by Edea, and later developed amnesia due to their use of Guardian Forces. Furthermore, it is revealed that Edea is Cid's wife, and together the two had founded Garden and SeeD to defeat evil sorceresses.[21]
Later in the game, the full forces of Balamb Garden and the Galbadian army (using the now-mobilized Galbadia Garden), led by Squall and Seifer respectively, engage in conflict. After Balamb defeats Galbadia, the player learns that Edea is merely an unwilling tool for a greater sorceress known as "Ultimecia", who resides in the future and wishes to compress all time into a single moment. This would grant her the power of all sorceresses that ever existed; it is for this reason she has sought Ellone.[22][23] A conclusive battle with Edea forces Ultimecia to transfer her powers to Rinoa, allowing Edea to survive, but leaving Rinoa frozen in a deep coma. Squall becomes obsessed with waking her and seeks the help of Dr. Odine, a renowned scientist living in Esthar. However, while Rinoa is being treated on Esthar's space station, Ultimecia uses her to free Adel, an imprisoned sorceress responsible for the war of seventeen years past. Ultimecia then orders Seifer to activate Esthar's Lunatic Pandora facility, inciting a rain of monsters from the moon in a phenomenon called the "Lunar Cry". This brings Adel's containment device from space to the planet's surface, while simultaneously leaving Esthar swarming with monsters.[24]
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Having selected Adel as her next host, Ultimecia abandons Rinoa in the void of outer space. Squall rescues her, but they become stranded until they encounter a derelict spaceship. After using it to return to the planet's surface, they are approached by delegates from Esthar, who lock Rinoa away in fear of her sorceress abilities.[25] Squall and his companions rescue Rinoa and finally meet Laguna, revealed to be Ellone's adopted father. Together with Dr. Odine, a plan is devised to let Ultimecia use Ellone to compress time, as it would allow Squall's group to confront Ultimecia in her own era. As Time Compression begins, Squall is forced to duel Seifer once again and kill Adel when she attempts to assimilate Rinoa. With their friendship serving as their bond to reality, Squall and his friends immunize themselves to the effects of Time Compression, travel to Ultimecia's era and defeat her.[26]
As Ultimecia is defeated, the universe begins returning to normal, and Squall is nearly lost in the flow of time as he witnesses the origins of the game's entire story. When a dying Ultimecia travels back in time to pass her powers to Edea thirteen years in Squall's past, he informs Edea of the concepts of Garden and SeeD that she will create. Afterward, he is warped away into the timestream and is unable to find his own way back to the present until he is rescued by Rinoa. At the end of the game, SeeD holds a banquet to celebrate their victory, and Squall is shown kissing Rinoa while smiling for the first time in the game.
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Why did you just quote me an entire page from wiki? You really think I'm going to read that summary?
Point to me the part that says Rinoa isn't ultimecia.
Having selected Adel as her next host, Ultimecia abandons Rinoa in the void of outer space. Squall rescues her, but they become stranded until they encounter a derelict spaceship. After using it to return to the planet's surface, they are approached by delegates from Esthar, who lock Rinoa away in fear of her sorceress abilities.[25] Squall and his companions rescue Rinoa and finally meet Laguna, revealed to be Ellone's adopted father. Together with Dr. Odine, a plan is devised to let Ultimecia use Ellone to compress time, as it would allow Squall's group to confront Ultimecia in her own era. As Time Compression begins, Squall is forced to duel Seifer once again and kill Adel when she attempts to assimilate Rinoa. With their friendship serving as their bond to reality, Squall and his friends immunize themselves to the effects of Time Compression, travel to Ultimecia's era and defeat her.
you done yet?
I still don't see what you are going for.
Look, the whole R=U theory isn't exactly spelled out, so let me recap a bit:
thru-out the game you learn a few things, obviuosly, about sorceresses and such.
-A sorceress needs a knight, without one they become mentaly unstable, as explained by Edea. This happened to her without Cid.
-A sorceress lives a hell of a lot longer, if not forever, than a normal person. As proclaimed by Adel, life span of 400-some years atleast.
-Over time a GF will deplete your memories.
Now, Rinoa is a sorceress. Who is her Knight? Squall. So... one day... whats going to happen. Squall is going to die. Whats going to happen to Rinoa? She's going to be all alone. Eventually she'll go mad, just like Edea did, and most likely, just like Adel did.
Near the very end of the game, we see squall, lost in a desert, thinking of Rinoa. Did you ever notice how Ultimecia's face keeps jumping over Rinoa's?
Now... why do you think Ultimecia's castle just happens to be over the orphanage? Do you think it has anything to do with that promise? The one where squall said he'd always be there?
You can find a million hints and fore-shadowing to the idea that Rinoa will one day be Ultimecia. I played thru the game again after I had heard the theory and it makes complete sense, I would never imagine the plot to be designed any other way.
I kept comparing FFTA to the original Final Fantasy Tactics the whole time I was playing it, and found myself underwhelmed in so many ways. I mean, i'm sure it was a good game, but man, I was hoping for so much more.
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uh, I think you forgot a whole lot about the ending.....
Yes we are
But could I do this in G&T?
You are a gay dick lover :winky:
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Or you forgot a whole lot of the middle.
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Shortly after graduating, Squall meets a young woman named "Rinoa Heartilly", whose attitude and approach to life are apparently the opposite of his own. Assigned to help her Galbadian-resistance on his first mission, along with Zell and Selphie, Squall learns that a sorceress named "Edea" is the mastermind behind Galbadia's hostilities. Edea soon kills Deling and turns Galbadia into an imperial dictatorship.[17] Under orders from both Galbadia and Balamb's Gardens, Squall and his comrades — now joined by Quistis and sharpshooter Irvine Kinneas — attempt to assassinate the sorceress. Despite a nearly flawless execution of the plan — arranged by Galbadia's own General Caraway, Rinoa's father — the party is defeated and imprisoned. Squall's party also learns that Seifer has left Garden to become Edea's second-in-command.[18]
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
Students from Balamb Garden battle Galbadian soldiers
After escaping prison, the team splits into two units, both of which are controlled by the player in separate scenarios. Squall's group stops an internal conflict at Balamb Garden incited by NORG, SeeD's financial supporter, while Selphie's squad fails to prevent a Galbadian missile attack on Balamb and Trabia Garden. The missile launch forces Squall to turn Balamb Garden into a mobile fortress to avoid the attack, leaving the facility temporarily uncontrollable until it collides with the docks at Fisherman's Horizon in the middle of the ocean. While Squall negotiates with the mayor of the town, Galbadia invades in search of a girl named "Ellone", who had been staying at the Garden until recently.
Throughout the game, Ellone sends Squall and his allies into a series of flashbacks set seventeen years in the past. The scenes center on a man named "Laguna" and his two friends, Kiros and Ward. During the flashbacks, Laguna changes from Galbadian soldier to the self-appointed defender of a small country village, and then to the president of Esthar, the game's technological superpower.
Meanwhile, Squall deals with personal conflicts fueled by the game's ongoing developments,[19] such as Balamb Garden's Headmaster Cid appointing him as SeeD's new leader,[20] and his increasing love for Rinoa. Squall particularly struggles with the latter, as he had previously shut out all feelings of affection due to a fear of becoming vulnerable.
As Edea and Seifer continue sweeping the world in search of Ellone, matters are complicated further during an investigation of Trabia Garden's ruins. Squall and his comrades learn that — with the exception of Rinoa — they were raised along with Seifer and Ellone in an orphanage run by Edea, and later developed amnesia due to their use of Guardian Forces. Furthermore, it is revealed that Edea is Cid's wife, and together the two had founded Garden and SeeD to defeat evil sorceresses.[21]
Later in the game, the full forces of Balamb Garden and the Galbadian army (using the now-mobilized Galbadia Garden), led by Squall and Seifer respectively, engage in conflict. After Balamb defeats Galbadia, the player learns that Edea is merely an unwilling tool for a greater sorceress known as "Ultimecia", who resides in the future and wishes to compress all time into a single moment. This would grant her the power of all sorceresses that ever existed; it is for this reason she has sought Ellone.[22][23] A conclusive battle with Edea forces Ultimecia to transfer her powers to Rinoa, allowing Edea to survive, but leaving Rinoa frozen in a deep coma. Squall becomes obsessed with waking her and seeks the help of Dr. Odine, a renowned scientist living in Esthar. However, while Rinoa is being treated on Esthar's space station, Ultimecia uses her to free Adel, an imprisoned sorceress responsible for the war of seventeen years past. Ultimecia then orders Seifer to activate Esthar's Lunatic Pandora facility, inciting a rain of monsters from the moon in a phenomenon called the "Lunar Cry". This brings Adel's containment device from space to the planet's surface, while simultaneously leaving Esthar swarming with monsters.[24]
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Squall and Rinoa embrace after he frees her from confinement in Esthar
Having selected Adel as her next host, Ultimecia abandons Rinoa in the void of outer space. Squall rescues her, but they become stranded until they encounter a derelict spaceship. After using it to return to the planet's surface, they are approached by delegates from Esthar, who lock Rinoa away in fear of her sorceress abilities.[25] Squall and his companions rescue Rinoa and finally meet Laguna, revealed to be Ellone's adopted father. Together with Dr. Odine, a plan is devised to let Ultimecia use Ellone to compress time, as it would allow Squall's group to confront Ultimecia in her own era. As Time Compression begins, Squall is forced to duel Seifer once again and kill Adel when she attempts to assimilate Rinoa. With their friendship serving as their bond to reality, Squall and his friends immunize themselves to the effects of Time Compression, travel to Ultimecia's era and defeat her.[26]
As Ultimecia is defeated, the universe begins returning to normal, and Squall is nearly lost in the flow of time as he witnesses the origins of the game's entire story. When a dying Ultimecia travels back in time to pass her powers to Edea thirteen years in Squall's past, he informs Edea of the concepts of Garden and SeeD that she will create. Afterward, he is warped away into the timestream and is unable to find his own way back to the present until he is rescued by Rinoa. At the end of the game, SeeD holds a banquet to celebrate their victory, and Squall is shown kissing Rinoa while smiling for the first time in the game.
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All parts with Laguna in them
The Seifer/Squall rivalry
The Gardens attacking each other
The GF system
Cactuar GF
click the spoiler
also, zero
Which God
Do you mean the Christian God or a Roman God
Why did you just quote me an entire page from wiki? You really think I'm going to read that summary?
Point to me the part that says Rinoa isn't ultimecia.
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How to beat FFVIII in 3 easy steps
Step 1: Get Squalls HP in the yellow
Step 2: Spam Triangle on Squalls turn, until his limit pops up
Step 3: Use limit
This can be later enhances with +auto-haste and +Speed% bonuses later on.
Then you just junction 100 Ultima to Squalls attack.
I was taking about 7 limits with Squall to every 1 boss turn.
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you done yet?
It is. However, as with a lot of good games, you need to learn the gameplay mechanisms before you can really get into it. Go back and retry, only this time suspend your disbelief a little more so that you get into the mindset of "I'm outnumbered and outgunned here, so I need to keep shit quiet." With that in mind, the gameplay has a much better chance of getting through to you.
If you haven't played it, blame yourself or god.
Also, Defender, I think I'll pick it up during the summer. There was a remake of the first one for the Gamecube, right?
Wowwww this is rare, but I basically agree. I got to somewhere around the beginning of disc four, so I got a little further, but this was my analysis as well. It was the first FF game I had bought and not completed.
Come on guys
And it can be any god really, maybe an alien space god, or maybe Kratos as the God of War
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no game could be manly enough to contain both leonidas and kratos
sorry
it's a law somewhere
There was, and there are some different views on it. On the one hand, the difficulty level is damaged and the first few boss fights are ruined by the first-person-view shooting ability (Ocelot's simply too easy to hit, and Mantis can't hit you with his telekenesis shit while you're lying down, so you can just lie down and blast him). On the other hand, the original had a lot of really annoying quirks and shit that needed to be smoothed out, plus the graphics were pretty bad.
So I'd recommend the remake even though it's a little bit too easy in certain spots, but others might recommend the original. I feel that the remake fixed some things and broke others, and that overall its improvements make up for its mistakes.
Blame yourself or god. Nice. FFT was awesome. Clunky interface, but the actual gameplay is just fucking awesome.
I still don't see what you are going for.
Look, the whole R=U theory isn't exactly spelled out, so let me recap a bit:
-A sorceress needs a knight, without one they become mentaly unstable, as explained by Edea. This happened to her without Cid.
-A sorceress lives a hell of a lot longer, if not forever, than a normal person. As proclaimed by Adel, life span of 400-some years atleast.
-Over time a GF will deplete your memories.
Now, Rinoa is a sorceress. Who is her Knight? Squall. So... one day... whats going to happen. Squall is going to die. Whats going to happen to Rinoa? She's going to be all alone. Eventually she'll go mad, just like Edea did, and most likely, just like Adel did.
Near the very end of the game, we see squall, lost in a desert, thinking of Rinoa. Did you ever notice how Ultimecia's face keeps jumping over Rinoa's?
Now... why do you think Ultimecia's castle just happens to be over the orphanage? Do you think it has anything to do with that promise? The one where squall said he'd always be there?
You can find a million hints and fore-shadowing to the idea that Rinoa will one day be Ultimecia. I played thru the game again after I had heard the theory and it makes complete sense, I would never imagine the plot to be designed any other way.
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Also, I found the bad translation/interfce endearing. Also, the characters were great.
Oh shit, here's number two.
Between FF6, FF7, OoT, and MGS (original version), I would also pick FF6. And for basically the same reasons.
it's also kind of obnoxious
I think that was the only one I actually finished.
I got to the part where Kefka makes the world... not .... good... no more,
but then I found out about Super Metroid.
LOL UR MOM IS TO BIG AND ALSO KIND OF OBNOXIOUS!
I'm so sorry.
ouch
Haha, I think I have trouble saying games are bad. I always look for the best parts, and tout those.
but i typed chocobo as pokemon and lost my train of thought