That reminds me. I used to have a very agressive stance on mutants when I first started playing Fallouts. I tried to goad them into attacking me, if not outright killing them on sight. I did this because I was trying to restore the human race and I didn't want them breeding their mutant bullshit.
Then I learned that mutants can't reproduce, then I felt like a dick.
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Everyone in the wasteland is a mutant due to exposure to radiation and/or the FEV.
And I've always thought that ghouls were kind of suspicious. Most of them were born before the war and due to their condition, you can never be sure who they really are. They could hold allegiance to old world organizations. Heck, for all we know, a lot of them were/are spies from other countries.
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Somehow I managed to avoid Tulip during my last run with the wasteland reproduction guide (least misogynistic sex mod ever) and instead focused on humans with their skin on. NukaCola woman was a tad frightening though.
Everyone in the wasteland is a mutant due to exposure to radiation and/or the FEV.
And I've always thought that ghouls were kind of suspicious. Most of them were born before the war and due to their condition, you can never be sure who they really are. They could hold allegiance to old world organizations. Heck, for all we know, a lot of them were/are spies from other countries.
There was that one dude from Point Lookout who basically confirmed the few surviving spies were still fighting each other, even though the countries themselves were long gone.
Upon deciding to kill him for his lack of manners, he asked if I was completely insane.
His resume purely reads shooting people in the face and strip searching dead bodies.
My Courier is aware of this, to the point that he actually supported House during his first run through (and will probably ally with the NCR on the second). "Killing lots of people" and "not dying when shot in the head" don't really qualify a man to be mayor, let alone the leader of a major independent city-state. House, for all his flaws, has a long-term plan and the means to carry it out; the Courier doesn't know if he's going to be alive next month.
(A case can be made, especially after "Lonesome Road", that the Courier's third tag skill is "unwittingly causing disaster by delivering the wrong thing to the right person.")
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Everyone in the wasteland is a mutant due to exposure to radiation and/or the FEV.
And I've always thought that ghouls were kind of suspicious. Most of them were born before the war and due to their condition, you can never be sure who they really are. They could hold allegiance to old world organizations. Heck, for all we know, a lot of them were/are spies from other countries.
There was that one dude from Point Lookout who basically confirmed the few surviving spies were still fighting each other, even though the countries themselves were long gone.
Upon deciding to kill him for his lack of manners, he asked if I was completely insane.
*ka-BLAM*
And the last horse crosses the finish line.
Really, seems like the time for the phrase "Last Rat Standing"
But it hadn't entered the common parlance at the time, more's the pity.
Still waiting for a DLC covering the adventures of Sergeant Granite and EC Company. From the Fallout Bible:
"After reaching the mainland, they headed north to Navarro and were never heard from again, though their adventures could fill several eras worth of pulp comics."
Yeah yeah, I know, throw away line. Still, it would be awesome.
Yeah, I'm going to have to get rid of NMC, although it looks so damn good.....
wait why is nmc going? I have been using it with great success (well it will crash every 2 hrs, but really that's pretty good for gamebryo and i cant determine if it is the mods causing the crash or just gamebryo itself.
and i thought new vegas bounties 1 and 2 freaked out when installed at the same time or is that the someguy series that fixes that.
I thought the dip to my framerate was bad when I wrote that but it went back up so I'm keeping it.
Debating on the NCR replacer and which armor mods to get. Long term mod plan, Huey Freeman (melee), Riley Freeman (handgun), Jazmine Dubois (cannon, bitches love cannons).
Does anyone else think the sizing for the Service Rifle and all the other Ar-15 derivatives are off? They look too small. I mean, I know they're not AR-15s, but it's what they're supposed to conjure in your mind and the sizing has always seemed small.
There was a building full of Chinese soilders who had gone ghoul in Fallout Three.
I never played Fallout Tactics, but the Midwest Brotherhood seemed like they actually had some common sense. I would like to see another fallout set in the Midwest. I always pictured the Midwest BoS like a crusading monastic order. Or the Space Marines.
There was a building full of Chinese soilders who had gone ghoul in Fallout Three.
I never played Fallout Tactics, but the Midwest Brotherhood seemed like they actually had some common sense. I would like to see another fallout set in the Midwest. I always pictured the Midwest BoS like a crusading monastic order. Or the Space Marines.
They have some common sense.
They're also major assholes.
You know all the bits of Caesar's Legion where you go "Holy shit, that's awful! ....but under the circumstances, I can see why they do it"? (Not the other stuff where you just go "What the fuck, man. What the fuck." That's not their style, at least)
MBoS was there first. Forced labor camps, crucifixion, local tribes assimilated into their military machine, all that. They're better than the alternatives, but the alternatives are all variants on horrible death.
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I'm kinda hoping the android rumors are wrong for FO4. Seems...wrong. Trying to place my finger on why. Is it because it's too divergent from the established Fusion/FEV mythology? Is it because it seems too advanced for a post-apocalyptic setting?
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I'm kinda hoping the android rumors are wrong for FO4. Seems...wrong. Trying to place my finger on why. Is it because it's too divergent from the established Fusion/FEV mythology? Is it because it seems too advanced for a post-apocalyptic setting?
The Institute is supposed to be creating stuff that would even wow prewar scientists so it makes sense. They are one of the only places in the world now probably truly advancing science and technology.
Androids make sense given what we know about the place, it's far more advanced idea than a protectron or eyebot. I believe androids have appeared in fiction as far back as 1886 so I think it's fine to put it on the retro future exploration nature of the series.
Also, according to Zimmerman in FO3 the state itself is still a hellish wasteland outside of the institute itself which is sealed up to outsiders so all the crazy monsters, mutants, raiders and broken down buildings would still be there for the fallout norm.
Nah, it's because as an android you have an excuse to be an asshole (programming) instead of just being an asshole.
Basically it's missing the human element.
The androids created by the Institute are almost indistinguishable from humans. I wouldn't say they are missing the human element, they can bleed, get depressed, angry and plot against their evil creators. They can do anything the main characters of the last two games could.
If it does take place in Boston, I do want the protagonist to be one of them, it's much more interesting than simply being an ordinary human. Facing possible implanted memories, inspiring a crazy "kill all humans" rebellion, lot of fun things to do with that.
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edited February 2013
If we are playing an Android, I hope either
A) they tell you from the outset and that's that there's no lazy "you were/weren't an android all along!" twist
Hell, with the rumor, I'll be expecting the later.
Though it would be nice if they did the Blade Runner game's idea of "here's your list of 12 suspects, 3 of them are replicants (chosen at random/based on playstyle, and your character was on the list as well)"
Old World Blues was fun as DLC, but I don't know if it can support a whole new installment.
I believe Boston would be a lot different than *puts on think tank voice*....BIIIIIGGG MOOOUNTAIN.
Boston is in terrible shape from what we've been told in FO3, The Institute is supposedly a sealed off enviroment. If it was taking place in Massachusetts, it would probably still be 80% hellish wasteland.
The Think Tank were a bunch of paranoid, long gone insane lunatics hoarding over a lot of their eccentric prewar tech. Weird off the wall stuff like guns that run on dog brains. The Institute is supposed to be an actual thriving scientific society that have been moving forward since the apocalypse rather than stagnating and relying on salvaged tech. Something to really marvel at.
Basically I imagine the Think Tank as a Mr. Handy whereas The Institute would be Liberty Prime.
id really seems like they are straying further and further from post apocalyptic and into rebuilding civilization too far, technology is far too accessible in fo3 and nv, I want something closer to HH as hoover damn, helios one, and even the fev purification project all seem to be pushing to the reforging of nations and civilization rather than the post apocalyptic theme.
More tribals and less advanced societies where a single character could likely have a higher impact, in fact I wouldnt mind just Fallout Stories, where they pick random points in the fallout history and examine events as a 3rd party operating behind the scenes an inevitable outcome, but your actions have a much more targeted impact rather than shaping history, but helping or hindering certain groups and people.
its almost certain to be creation (gamebryo 2.0) from skyrim engine.
that said its leaps and bounds better the change from skyrim back to fallout 3 or nv is jarring.
its good in that the modding community is already familiar with the tools, its bad in that many of the core flaws of the engine persist (although far more manageable) tho ive only played around 20 hrs in skyrim and spent at least 2x that time testing mods.
hopefully the steam modding community will replace the nexus almost entirely.
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NocrenLt Futz, Back in ActionNorth CarolinaRegistered Userregular
How easy is it to mod Skyrim? Is it like Fallout 3/NV and just drop-in BSP files?
Everyone in the wasteland is a mutant due to exposure to radiation and/or the FEV.
And I've always thought that ghouls were kind of suspicious. Most of them were born before the war and due to their condition, you can never be sure who they really are. They could hold allegiance to old world organizations. Heck, for all we know, a lot of them were/are spies from other countries.
There was that one dude from Point Lookout who basically confirmed the few surviving spies were still fighting each other, even though the countries themselves were long gone.
Upon deciding to kill him for his lack of manners, he asked if I was completely insane.
*ka-BLAM*
And the last horse crosses the finish line.
It's possible that other countries, especially China, had their own Vault program. In fact, the Chinese government was probably in a better position than the US due to tighter control over the population and its authoritarian nature.
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Everyone in the wasteland is a mutant due to exposure to radiation and/or the FEV.
And I've always thought that ghouls were kind of suspicious. Most of them were born before the war and due to their condition, you can never be sure who they really are. They could hold allegiance to old world organizations. Heck, for all we know, a lot of them were/are spies from other countries.
There was that one dude from Point Lookout who basically confirmed the few surviving spies were still fighting each other, even though the countries themselves were long gone.
Upon deciding to kill him for his lack of manners, he asked if I was completely insane.
*ka-BLAM*
And the last horse crosses the finish line.
It's possible that other countries, especially China, had their own Vault program. In fact, the Chinese government was probably in a better position than the US due to tighter control over the population and its authoritarian nature.
We talking a different Fallout, mac?
Just before WWIII, the US government was as authoritarian as anyone. And China didn't have the raw resource might of the USA to let it spend money on an insanely elaborate psych experiment.
It would be nice to see a country like Britain or whatever sending an envoy to the US and the protagonist meets them. Or, maybe YOU are the envoy from the NCR or some other power base/government. See how the rest of the world has done. Be interesting if they didn't have to deal with "elaborate psych experiment" vaults and have a higher population/tech than the US. Could have a boat sequence where you fight mutated sharks or octopi or sharktopi (fear the sharktopus).
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That reminds me. I used to have a very agressive stance on mutants when I first started playing Fallouts. I tried to goad them into attacking me, if not outright killing them on sight. I did this because I was trying to restore the human race and I didn't want them breeding their mutant bullshit.
Then I learned that mutants can't reproduce, then I felt like a dick.
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And I've always thought that ghouls were kind of suspicious. Most of them were born before the war and due to their condition, you can never be sure who they really are. They could hold allegiance to old world organizations. Heck, for all we know, a lot of them were/are spies from other countries.
Don't know about you but I played hardcore mode. Gotta take some of that non-irradiated flesh along for a snack on the road.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
There was that one dude from Point Lookout who basically confirmed the few surviving spies were still fighting each other, even though the countries themselves were long gone.
Upon deciding to kill him for his lack of manners, he asked if I was completely insane.
*ka-BLAM*
And the last horse crosses the finish line.
My Courier is aware of this, to the point that he actually supported House during his first run through (and will probably ally with the NCR on the second). "Killing lots of people" and "not dying when shot in the head" don't really qualify a man to be mayor, let alone the leader of a major independent city-state. House, for all his flaws, has a long-term plan and the means to carry it out; the Courier doesn't know if he's going to be alive next month.
(A case can be made, especially after "Lonesome Road", that the Courier's third tag skill is "unwittingly causing disaster by delivering the wrong thing to the right person.")
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Really, seems like the time for the phrase "Last Rat Standing"
But it hadn't entered the common parlance at the time, more's the pity.
Why I fear the ocean.
"After reaching the mainland, they headed north to Navarro and were never heard from again, though their adventures could fill several eras worth of pulp comics."
Yeah yeah, I know, throw away line. Still, it would be awesome.
wait why is nmc going? I have been using it with great success (well it will crash every 2 hrs, but really that's pretty good for gamebryo and i cant determine if it is the mods causing the crash or just gamebryo itself.
and i thought new vegas bounties 1 and 2 freaked out when installed at the same time or is that the someguy series that fixes that.
Debating on the NCR replacer and which armor mods to get. Long term mod plan, Huey Freeman (melee), Riley Freeman (handgun), Jazmine Dubois (cannon, bitches love cannons).
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
I never played Fallout Tactics, but the Midwest Brotherhood seemed like they actually had some common sense. I would like to see another fallout set in the Midwest. I always pictured the Midwest BoS like a crusading monastic order. Or the Space Marines.
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I'd buy them all in a heartbeat but I'm not going to dick with itunes.
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They have some common sense.
They're also major assholes.
You know all the bits of Caesar's Legion where you go "Holy shit, that's awful! ....but under the circumstances, I can see why they do it"? (Not the other stuff where you just go "What the fuck, man. What the fuck." That's not their style, at least)
MBoS was there first. Forced labor camps, crucifixion, local tribes assimilated into their military machine, all that. They're better than the alternatives, but the alternatives are all variants on horrible death.
Why I fear the ocean.
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Basically it's missing the human element.
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Androids make sense given what we know about the place, it's far more advanced idea than a protectron or eyebot. I believe androids have appeared in fiction as far back as 1886 so I think it's fine to put it on the retro future exploration nature of the series.
Also, according to Zimmerman in FO3 the state itself is still a hellish wasteland outside of the institute itself which is sealed up to outsiders so all the crazy monsters, mutants, raiders and broken down buildings would still be there for the fallout norm.
The androids created by the Institute are almost indistinguishable from humans. I wouldn't say they are missing the human element, they can bleed, get depressed, angry and plot against their evil creators. They can do anything the main characters of the last two games could.
If it does take place in Boston, I do want the protagonist to be one of them, it's much more interesting than simply being an ordinary human. Facing possible implanted memories, inspiring a crazy "kill all humans" rebellion, lot of fun things to do with that.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
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Oddly, I hadn't even thought about this.
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A) they tell you from the outset and that's that
Hell, with the rumor, I'll be expecting the later.
Though it would be nice if they did the Blade Runner game's idea of "here's your list of 12 suspects, 3 of them are replicants (chosen at random/based on playstyle, and your character was on the list as well)"
Boston is in terrible shape from what we've been told in FO3, The Institute is supposedly a sealed off enviroment. If it was taking place in Massachusetts, it would probably still be 80% hellish wasteland.
The Think Tank were a bunch of paranoid, long gone insane lunatics hoarding over a lot of their eccentric prewar tech. Weird off the wall stuff like guns that run on dog brains. The Institute is supposed to be an actual thriving scientific society that have been moving forward since the apocalypse rather than stagnating and relying on salvaged tech. Something to really marvel at.
Basically I imagine the Think Tank as a Mr. Handy whereas The Institute would be Liberty Prime.
More tribals and less advanced societies where a single character could likely have a higher impact, in fact I wouldnt mind just Fallout Stories, where they pick random points in the fallout history and examine events as a 3rd party operating behind the scenes an inevitable outcome, but your actions have a much more targeted impact rather than shaping history, but helping or hindering certain groups and people.
Think they'll use the same game engine?
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its almost certain to be creation (gamebryo 2.0) from skyrim engine.
that said its leaps and bounds better the change from skyrim back to fallout 3 or nv is jarring.
its good in that the modding community is already familiar with the tools, its bad in that many of the core flaws of the engine persist (although far more manageable) tho ive only played around 20 hrs in skyrim and spent at least 2x that time testing mods.
hopefully the steam modding community will replace the nexus almost entirely.
It's possible that other countries, especially China, had their own Vault program. In fact, the Chinese government was probably in a better position than the US due to tighter control over the population and its authoritarian nature.
We talking a different Fallout, mac?
Just before WWIII, the US government was as authoritarian as anyone. And China didn't have the raw resource might of the USA to let it spend money on an insanely elaborate psych experiment.
Why I fear the ocean.