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You Gotta Keep The Devil Way Down in the Hole (The Wire)

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  • THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Hamsterdam is season 3

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    This show is great, but I really had to stick with it early on

    Watching the first few episodes, all I kept thinking was "Alright, this show is okay but I don't see why everyone shits their pants over it"

    Even now I just look at it as a show that's extremely well-written but it never got the hooks in me the way something like Breaking Bad or Lost did

    It was just a show to watch and enjoy myself, but I never found myself going "Oh God I have to watch the next episode now" because it really doesn't have those kinds of moments

    I guess basically what I'm saying is that the show had no mystery or cliffhangers, and I can respect that realism, but I think serialized television loses something if it doesn't have something to immediately grab you

    Also season two is great, before haters come in saying it isn't. It's a toss-up between two and four for me as to the best.

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Oh my god I've waited for so long

    And finally

    I can buy The Wire on Amazon Instant Video instead of just renting it

    How the fuck did that take so long

    I need to watch this shit ASAP

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Does anyone remember how HBO DVD prices used to be?

    I bought all of the seasons at that price

    So discouraging going into Target now and seeing the seasons for $20 a pop

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I bought season 1 for $15 a while back but ended up returning it when I learned Xbox was getting HBO Go.

  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    I need to finish watching this.

  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    Season 4 is discussed in so many social work and sociology courses around the world. It explores the overlap of vastly different but deeply interlinked systems beautifully.

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    If you have not seen this show, you are missing out. It is not addictive or easy to watch while doing something else, but it is an incredibly well-written and realistic story just dunked eyebrows-deep in hidden visual and subtle verbal cues.

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    Also some extras and minor characters were played by actual Baltimore drug dealers and former cops.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicia_Pearson

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  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    If you have not seen this show, you are missing out. It is not addictive or easy to watch while doing something else, but it is an incredibly well-written and realistic story just dunked eyebrows-deep in hidden visual and subtle verbal cues.

    I will admit, Season 2 absolutely emotionally wiped me out. I think I left off halfway through Season 3 but goddamn this show.

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Also some extras and minor characters were played by actual Baltimore drug dealers and former cops.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicia_Pearson

    lt mello is played by the real jay landsman

    Buttlord on
  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    Favorite tv series! I watche this on hbo when it was airing starting in season 3 and have rewatched the whole series a bunch since then.

    Personal season rankings go! 4-2-3-1-5

    This is my personal one, the wire never really had a bad season, ranging from brilliant if flawed at times (5) to best season of tv ever (4). it's cool if you disagree

    I still get pumped whenever I see an actor from the wire pop up in other projects, and usually seek out stuff from them, especially Michael k. Williams and Idris Elba

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  • Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    This show is great, but I really had to stick with it early on

    Watching the first few episodes, all I kept thinking was "Alright, this show is okay but I don't see why everyone shits their pants over it"

    Even now I just look at it as a show that's extremely well-written but it never got the hooks in me the way something like Breaking Bad or Lost did

    It was just a show to watch and enjoy myself, but I never found myself going "Oh God I have to watch the next episode now" because it really doesn't have those kinds of moments

    I guess basically what I'm saying is that the show had no mystery or cliffhangers, and I can respect that realism, but I think serialized television loses something if it doesn't have something to immediately grab you

    Also season two is great, before haters come in saying it isn't. It's a toss-up between two and four for me as to the best.

    Without wishing to sound too much like a pretentious wanker The Wire is not like other TV shows. It is barely television at all. It is not structured around the artificial constraint of episodic television - so no cliff hangers, no characters recapping the plot after coming back from an advertising break, no writing deliberate vague handwavey we-can-fill-this-in-later-in-case-we-are-renewed unresolved plot strands.

    The Wire is not a show that grabs you, it leads you in until you are way down in the hole. My wife hated the first 5 episodes of the Wire. As we were watching Homicide: Life on the Street at the same time she had a direct Baltimore based "cop show" to compare it against and she found it wanting. The Wire's characters were, seemingly, aggressively unpleasant and amoral. The show was going out of it's way to present a wall to the viewer to block out any empathy. It too about two months to watch the first five episodes. But then, at episode six, it all started to come together. Depths to the characters was now evident, plot was snowballing, nothing individually could be stated as the "thing" but it was like a switch was thrown - we watched the remaining episodes within a week and devoured the other series in a near glut. For us, "Oh God I have to watch the next episode now" is pretty much how we went through series 2-to-5. We had to ration ourselves at one point. Not because we wanted to see any specific moment or action but because we wanted to experience the whole thing.

    The Wire makes no accommodation for the viewer and ask for nothing in return but also makes no false promises. No "previously on The Wire" to signpost what this episode is to be about but no faked tension before an advert only to find the situation was not exactly as framed. There is just nothing to compare The Wire to.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Oh god this show.

    Just got my sister through it, gonna start the lady on it soon.

  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    lostwords wrote: »
    Favorite tv series! I watche this on hbo when it was airing starting in season 3 and have rewatched the whole series a bunch since then.

    Personal season rankings go! 4-2-3-1-5

    This is my personal one, the wire never really had a bad season, ranging from brilliant if flawed at times (5) to best season of tv ever (4). it's cool if you disagree

    I still get pumped whenever I see an actor from the wire pop up in other projects, and usually seek out stuff from them, especially Michael k. Williams and Idris Elba

    Watch Treme, you'll have a heart attack.

    In fact everyone, watch Treme right now (except if you haven't seen The Wire, watch that first). Treme is also David Simon's brainchild and it feels a lot like it even though it is, on the surface, nowhere near as bleak and cynical (though it has its moments too).

    Also it has great music all the time in every episode.

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  • SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    I want to rewatch them since I've noticed that they are on HBOGo, but it is definitely something you should devote your attention to while it is on.

    Such a great series.

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Also wow, there are a ton of clips of the wire on Youtube

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I am torn between making a McNutty post or a WHERE WALLACE AT post

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    I watched Treme season 1 but didnt really dig it as much and stopped after that. I dunno, just not my bag?

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I am torn between making a McNutty post or a WHERE WALLACE AT post
    "the fuck did i do?" is probably my favorite repeated line in the show

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I want to watch this right now but it's hard to watch when the kids are up. Besides not being able to pay attention, every other word spoken is fuck and I'd rather not have them repeat it.

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    My favorite characters are Bodie, Bunny, and Prez and season 4 is one of the finest seasons of tv ever made.

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  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I am torn between making a McNutty post or a WHERE WALLACE AT post
    "the fuck did i do?" is probably my favorite repeated line in the show

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-28aExCW9co

  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    lostwords wrote: »
    I watched Treme season 1 but didnt really dig it as much and stopped after that. I dunno, just not my bag?

    Season 2 is better. But yeah if you don't care about the characters, New Orleans culture or the music, there's not much in there for you.

    I watch it mostly because the characters are about as well developed as they were in The Wire.

    SimBen on
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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-KCVBcwfA8

    this is my favorite cold open in the series

    also spoilers + nsfw (titties)

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Best show in the history of shows. That shit's in the bible. Look it up, man.

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  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    Wanna drink and go on misadventures with McNulty and Bunk.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2012
    http://www.dorkly.com/embed/43765/the-wire-rpg

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    it's kinda clever

    also massive spoilers (seasons 1-5)

    Brolo on
  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    which episode is it where mcnulty crashes his car into a wall taking a turn too wide

    gets out, looks at it, looks at the angles

    backs up

    and does the exact same thing again but faster

    because that is probably my favorite opening sequence and my favorite summation of jimmy mcnulty

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    which episode is it where mcnulty crashes his car into a wall taking a turn too wide

    gets out, looks at it, looks at the angles

    backs up

    and does the exact same thing again but faster

    because that is probably my favorite opening sequence and my favorite summation of jimmy mcnulty

    it's like four posts up!

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited September 2012
    oh

    word

    i love the way he looks at it and goes "fuck it i know if i do the same thing again but harder it'll work!"

    that's mcnulty

    a self-destructive asshole who just keeps trying to do the same thing, over and over, and getting the same results every time and getting more and more fucked up by it

    you wanna talk about a car as a metaphor for its owner, a la breaking bad?

    mcnulty's sedan wins

    Buttlord on
  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Givin' a fuck when it ain't his turn to give a fuck.

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited September 2012
    it's not even that

    it's that mcnulty always thinks he's right, that if everyone would just shut the fuck up and let him do it, it'd work

    but it won't work. he just keeps bashing into the same wall over and over, thinking that this time, for sure, he'll get it, because he'll just do it even harder

    even when the fact that it doesn't work and he's ruining himself is staring him in the face, what does he do?

    the same goddamn thing
    look at mcnulty from seasons 3-5

    season 3 he basically gets an intervention in the form of daniels telling him that he's a piece of shit who ruins everything by Being McNulty and goes back to being a beat cop, and he does good! in season 4 he puts his life back together and keeps it together because, in his own small way, he's accomplishing what he set out to do at the start of season 1, without running headlong into walls anymore

    but then he gets asked to rejoin homicide, and it all just starts again. and this time he doesn't just crash the car, he totals it, all because he thinks if he just does it hard enough and fast enough he can show everyone that he's right about things
    he's like an addict, and being a detective is his drug of choice

    Buttlord on
  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Man, I loved Bodie. I dunno why; he never really mattered as much as D'Andre or the other low level guys, but his weird relationship with Herc and Carv was always a delight.

    Oh brilliant
  • Shock GShock G Registered User regular
    bodie's a soldier

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    You loved Bodie because he was the best

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    it's because you spend a lot of time with bodie
    if mcnulty is supposed to be the character that shows us how the police dept is fucked up, bodie is the one who does it for the corners

    d'andre and prez (and ziggy. and naymond.) are supposed to be....not innocents, but people forced to be in a world they don't belong in and that they want no part of

    bodie and mcnulty belong in this world, they just don't like the thing it's become

    bodie is better about it though, because you get to watch his frustrations grow over four seasons, instead of just having them thrust at you from the start

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    d'angelo

  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Reading the book, gimme a break

    Oh brilliant
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