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[Steam Box / Big Picture Mode] Build & set up your own living room PC gaming console!

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    It depends on your budget, really.

    Socket 1150 (Haswell) is the the good shit these days, ideally you want a quad-core and a nice mobo to suit, with 8 gigs of ram to replace your old DDR2. If you're strapped for cash you could go for a dual-core (which will still be a significant upgrade from your current processor), and a less full-featured motherboard.

    What would be the total price for all that? I'm looking at Amazon now and apparently the mobo alone is $250?

    I'd be willing to make the investment now for the whole thing provided I had a Bill Me Later option for the complete purchase (most likely Newegg). I just need to have a list of the right parts and an estimated cost.

    $250 is a lot of money for a motherboard. Like, really a lot. I'm on my phone or I'd link to something a LOT closer to $100.

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    FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    It depends on your budget, really.

    Socket 1150 (Haswell) is the the good shit these days, ideally you want a quad-core and a nice mobo to suit, with 8 gigs of ram to replace your old DDR2. If you're strapped for cash you could go for a dual-core (which will still be a significant upgrade from your current processor), and a less full-featured motherboard.

    What would be the total price for all that? I'm looking at Amazon now and apparently the mobo alone is $250?

    I'd be willing to make the investment now for the whole thing provided I had a Bill Me Later option for the complete purchase (most likely Newegg). I just need to have a list of the right parts and an estimated cost.

    If your not interested in overclocking, then you could get a B85 LGA 1150 motherboard for about $70, an i5-4670 is $220, and 8gb ram would be another $65. In total somewhere around $350.

    With a good sale or combo, maybe get that down to $300

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    kanaesinkanaesin Registered User regular
    So I'm interested in throwing together something to have Steam in my living room. I'm more interested in light gaming (platforming etc) than FPS, along with some HTPC stuff. I've never built a PC from parts before, and I'm not too up on specs etc. as I'm mostly a console guy. I've replaced/upgraded parts, though, and I'm not afraid to tinker.

    So, any suggestions on this build? What could/couldn't I do with it, and what could be improved? Anything I need but don't have?

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Can you get a similarly-priced set of RAM with two sticks? Like this?

    Ah, I see that no, there's a special deal on that RAM.

    How about getting two of them, then? Your motherboard supports dual channel ram, which will literally double the memory access speeds if you use two sticks.

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    kanaesinkanaesin Registered User regular
    Ah, see, that's the kind of thing that I'm not clear on the workings of. I'm trying to keep costs down (in fact I was wondering if I could downsize on any of that), but if two sticks yields a big increase in performance then I could swing that.

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    a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    It depends on your budget, really.

    Socket 1150 (Haswell) is the the good shit these days, ideally you want a quad-core and a nice mobo to suit, with 8 gigs of ram to replace your old DDR2. If you're strapped for cash you could go for a dual-core (which will still be a significant upgrade from your current processor), and a less full-featured motherboard.

    What would be the total price for all that? I'm looking at Amazon now and apparently the mobo alone is $250?

    I'd be willing to make the investment now for the whole thing provided I had a Bill Me Later option for the complete purchase (most likely Newegg). I just need to have a list of the right parts and an estimated cost.

    If you just need CPU/Mobo/RAM, I'll price out a couple alternatives:

    Intel i5-4430 - $190
    ASRock B85M - $73
    8GB of RAM - $60

    I'm going to throw out some AMD options too since this is budget-sensitive situation
    FX-6300 -$120
    ASUS MB - $69 after rebate

    A8-6600K - $120
    ASRock MB - $65

    Total prices:
    Intel i5 : $323
    AMD FX : $249
    AMD A8 : $245

    In games, the largest spread between these CPUs would probably be around 1 FPS unless you are planning to go to multiple GPUs soon.

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Going to begin building my PC now, but I had just one final question.

    I've got Steam installed on my primary drive, and all my Steam games spread out to other drives due to the Steam mover program.

    If I have to reinstall Steam, what happens to all those other games? Will they link up automatically, or will I have to redownload them all?

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    You can put alot of power into a small frame these days. I have been researching this out for awhlie now and I went the prefab route. I am more than happy with the unit so far. I lost my HD that had my Steam LIB in it so I have to redownload everything but last night I got Borderlands 2 downloaded and it ran very smooth. I went the AW x51 R2 route as I read some pretty glowing reviews of it. I have yet to hook it up to my 55inch 1080p but on my normal monitor the unit stayed @ 80deg on the gfx with the fps staying way over 60.

    Plus the engineering on the build is just fantastic and much better than anything I could have pulled together.
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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    If I want to set up a steam box for my kid, can I just let it run in offline mode so I don't need to worry about conflicting logins with my laptop?

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Has anyone found a way to turn off mouse pointers in games yet?

    There's got to be some sort of program that can hide cursors with whatever programs you tell it to.

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    QuantuxQuantux Registered User regular
    Has anyone found a way to turn off mouse pointers in games yet?

    There's got to be some sort of program that can hide cursors with whatever programs you tell it to.

    For games that support controllers, usually the pointer disappears once the gamepad is used. But if it doesn't; I just pause, move the pointer off screen and turn off my mouse (it's the MS touch arc mouse, snaps open and closed, really easy).

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    I use HippoRemote to move the mouse away.

    But that's still an extra couple of actions that would be nice to eliminate with an automated program, so I'm holding out hope.

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    FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    An Autoit or similar type of script set to move the mouse by the width of your screen to the right and down by the height should work pretty well to get the mouse cursor into the bottom corner reliably.
    Then you just need a way to execute it after the game is started up, either with a custom hotkey on a remote set to the script, or maybe using a batch file to start the game and then run the script X number of seconds later.

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    Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Whoops wrong thread.

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    Ragnar DragonfyreRagnar Dragonfyre Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    After using Big Picture for months, I just discovered a couple days ago that pressing the Guide button on my 360 controller with Steam open will launch directly into Big Picture.

    How did I not know this sooner? Now if only Big Picture could somehow bypass game launchers (or game launchers supported controllers ala Borderlands 2), I wouldn't need to use my mouse much at all anymore.

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Add -NoLaucher to the borderlands 2 launch options steam. I assume other games have similar options.

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    Ragnar DragonfyreRagnar Dragonfyre Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Add -NoLaucher to the borderlands 2 launch options steam. I assume other games have similar options.

    I meant that BL2 launcher supports controllers. Right now I'm playing Skyrim and I have to use the mouse when I get to the launcher.

    Thanks for the disable tip. :)

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Add -NoLaucher to the borderlands 2 launch options steam. I assume other games have similar options.

    I wish to God this worked with Ubisoft games.

    Motherfucking Uplay piece of shit stop making me get up to use the mouse.

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    TheCanManTheCanMan GT: Gasman122009 JerseyRegistered User regular
    This seems as good a place as any to ask this. I am completely ignorant of all things related to home networking (so much so that I'm not even 100% certain that "home networking" is the proper term for what I want to do). I have my computer upstairs hooked up to a wireless router. Downstairs I have a wifi capable TV. If I get the wifi dongle for the TV will I be able to connect to my computer and play my Steam games off of it?

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Nope.

    Wifi on a TV only enables certain "smart" features like a web browser, twitter access, and various other dumb shit.

    You'd need to physically run an HDMI cable from your computer to the TV if you want to play games on it.

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    TheCanManTheCanMan GT: Gasman122009 JerseyRegistered User regular
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    FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    This seems as good a place as any to ask this. I am completely ignorant of all things related to home networking (so much so that I'm not even 100% certain that "home networking" is the proper term for what I want to do). I have my computer upstairs hooked up to a wireless router. Downstairs I have a wifi capable TV. If I get the wifi dongle for the TV will I be able to connect to my computer and play my Steam games off of it?

    No. The wifi ability on your TV just lets it use apps like netflix,internet browsing, etc.

    If you want to send a video signal down to your TV, your going to need to either run a long hdmi cable to it, which you can do up to about 100' lengths. If you need to go further then that, then your going to need a couple of hdmi over cat5 converters and that lets you run the signal over a cat5 cable up to about 300' long.

    Wireless hdmi transmitters also exists, but the range on them varies as to the exact locations and what is between your computer and the TV in the way of ducting, pipes, joists etc. But they usually can get around 100-150' in range.

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    I'm still trying to find a script or program that hides mouse cursors on certain games.

    It's so annoying.

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    FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    I'm still trying to find a script or program that hides mouse cursors on certain games.

    It's so annoying.

    Have you tried an autohotkey script? Just set it to move the mouse to the bottom right/left corner on a button press from either a remote or your gamepad. Not actually hidden, but close enough.

    Edit: doing some searching through the functions available in autohotkey led me to this example:
    ; Example: Hides the mouse cursor when you press Win+C. To later show the cursor, press Win+C again.
    ; This script is from www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic6107.html
    
    OnExit, ShowCursor  ; Ensure the cursor is made visible when the script exits.
    return
    
    ShowCursor:
    SystemCursor("On")
    ExitApp
    
    #c::SystemCursor("Toggle")  ; Win+C hotkey to toggle the cursor on and off.
    
    SystemCursor(OnOff=1)   ; INIT = "I","Init"; OFF = 0,"Off"; TOGGLE = -1,"T","Toggle"; ON = others
    {
        static AndMask, XorMask, $, h_cursor
            ,c0,c1,c2,c3,c4,c5,c6,c7,c8,c9,c10,c11,c12,c13 ; system cursors
            , b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9,b10,b11,b12,b13   ; blank cursors
            , h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,h7,h8,h9,h10,h11,h12,h13   ; handles of default cursors
        if (OnOff = "Init" or OnOff = "I" or $ = "")       ; init when requested or at first call
        {
            $ = h                                          ; active default cursors
            VarSetCapacity( h_cursor,4444, 1 )
            VarSetCapacity( AndMask, 32*4, 0xFF )
            VarSetCapacity( XorMask, 32*4, 0 )
            system_cursors = 32512,32513,32514,32515,32516,32642,32643,32644,32645,32646,32648,32649,32650
            StringSplit c, system_cursors, `,
            Loop %c0%
            {
                h_cursor   := DllCall( "LoadCursor", "uint",0, "uint",c%A_Index% )
                h%A_Index% := DllCall( "CopyImage",  "uint",h_cursor, "uint",2, "int",0, "int",0, "uint",0 )
                b%A_Index% := DllCall("CreateCursor","uint",0, "int",0, "int",0
                    , "int",32, "int",32, "uint",&AndMask, "uint",&XorMask )
            }
        }
        if (OnOff = 0 or OnOff = "Off" or $ = "h" and (OnOff < 0 or OnOff = "Toggle" or OnOff = "T"))
            $ = b  ; use blank cursors
        else
            $ = h  ; use the saved cursors
    
        Loop %c0%
        {
            h_cursor := DllCall( "CopyImage", "uint",%$%%A_Index%, "uint",2, "int",0, "int",0, "uint",0 )
            DllCall( "SetSystemCursor", "uint",h_cursor, "uint",c%A_Index% )
        }
    }
    
    

    I'm sure it could be edited to use a remote/gamepad button instead of win+c.


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    mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    hey guys, don't know how active this is

    sorta crossposted in the build thread

    i just got an HD Homerun Prime setup on my network. its awesome, streams are high qulaity and it works great on my computer via WMC

    problem is i can't figure out how to get it to workon my TV

    originally i thought my blueray player which is DLNA certified would be able to pick up the server. i can get it to find it, but it spits out an no playable file error when trying to play it.

    i have an older intel mac mini (1.8 gHz Core 2 duo)

    i can't figure out he best way to watch the HD Homerun stream. i have plex on th emini, but i was unable to get it working on my macbook

    an alternative is to build a small htpc box so i can use WMC on it which i know works.

    If i build it, budget is under $300
    I have a small SSD and some random drives. if i upgrade my big pc, i could have a 5770 or 6770 or i could just pull the 5770 out and not crossfire anymore.

    i do have a license for win 8 but am open to a steam os/linux build.

    the only things it needs to do is be able to easily be run with a remote for inlaws, play the tv via HD Homerun, and be able to do HD resolution on a 37"+ tv, also have a small quiet form factor


    alternatively help me get the mac mini working with it

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