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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    GrimmyTOA wrote: »
    I'm unclear as to how much flexibility we have in base placement. The one video I've seen that deals with the subject seemed to suggest that you just choose your starting continent and then the game slaps down your base. In that particular case, right in the middle of the continental US. It's possible I missed a quick keystroke, though. I want control!

    Pretty sure it just gets put in a specific spot on the continent, seeing how your radar doesn't have "range" around the base, but instead it's all satellite based, with each satellite over a country increasing your coverage.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Are all countries represented in the game as possible soldier nationalities? I mean, I think we've only seen stuff like the US, UK, Russia, China etc.

    I mean, seriously, am I going to have a sniper from the Vatican? Or a heavy from, I dunno, Fiji or something?

  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    So here is an elusive question: If you cover a continent with sats (all countries), do you get the continental bonus? For example, I start in North America (Air and Space ? YES SIR) then cover the two countries in South America (Monroe Doctrine in effect). Do I get the We Have Ways bonus? Otherwise, after securing North America, I'm heading over to Russia (for that sweet, sweet 150 buckazoids).

    With regards to soldiers? I name them after GI Joe characters. Males, females, nicknames. All taken care of. Roadblock the heavy? Low Light the sniper? You betcha.

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Klyka wrote: »
    I agree with you Scarab, only the base should OBVIOUSLY be in Germany.

    I saw this Finnish documentary about how a bunch of your people left for the moon in the mid 1940's.
    I have the feeling that when they return from there they want Berlin back quickly, this is supported by the tutorial mission.

    My base goes elsewhere.

    Movitz on
  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    I'd imagine there would be texturing issues with non-standard flag designs. Like Nepal.

    Also, I wonder how up to date it is. South Sudan? New Libya?

    I'm not being flippant. These are serious questions. I really want a sense of a global unity with the XCOM force, I don't want it to just be essentially another arm of the UN Security Council.

  • Iron WeaselIron Weasel Dillon! You son of a bitch!Registered User regular
    The same thing happened in that goofy German LP - they chose Europe and the base defaulted to a specific location.

    That's not exactly thrilling, but I'm happy enough about the continental bonuses that I'm not prepared to let it bug me.

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  • GrimmyTOAGrimmyTOA Registered User regular
    Re: flags. I've certainly seen a Canadian flag, but nothing from Andorra or equivalent. Probably flags from member nations only. That is a guess, though.

  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    Movitz wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    I agree with you Scarab, only the base should OBVIOUSLY be in Germany.

    I saw this Finnish documentary about how a bunch of your people left for the moon in the mid 1940's.
    I have the feeling that when they return from there they want Berlin back quickly, this is supported by the tutorial mission.

    My base goes elsewhere.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZo0dQlxcs

    ?

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  • lu tzelu tze Sweeping the monestary steps.Registered User regular
    jefe414 wrote: »
    With regards to soldiers? I name them after GI Joe characters. Males, females, nicknames. All taken care of. Roadblock the heavy? Low Light the sniper? You betcha.
    You're going to run out of names.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    Basil wrote: »
    Now that's how you do a Stargate run. All bullets, all the time.

    Need some tweaking.

    Carter with a P-90 is way more dangerous than a rookie with a starter rifle.

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    Klyka wrote: »
    Movitz wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    I agree with you Scarab, only the base should OBVIOUSLY be in Germany.

    I saw this Finnish documentary about how a bunch of your people left for the moon in the mid 1940's.
    I have the feeling that when they return from there they want Berlin back quickly, this is supported by the tutorial mission.

    My base goes elsewhere.

    [Iron sky trailer]

    ?

    That's the one! Them basterds ain't taking my hometown, no way no how.

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    I think once I've ran out of family and friends for names I'll just start cribbing from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPs_elected_in_the_UK_general_election,_2010

    Who doesn't want to meatgrind the Tories into the waiting mandibles of the alien menace?

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    If a Conservative MP is infected by a chrysallid, is the emergent zombie a Liberal Democrat?


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  • BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    Considering that Jake Solomon said he spend a lot of time researching names of people from certain places, I don't think the roster of countries will get too diverse, as much as I want a soldier from BIOT or Vanuatu, I don't think they'll be included

  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    Isn't it a fairly short list of major countries forming the X-COM donor list? I remember seeing somewhere there were only seven or eight countries that you got funding from.

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Well it's certainly more than the member states of each continental bloc.

    I saw a Portuguese flag for sure in a video and the European states for the satellite coverage are UK, Germany, France and Spain. I think. Maybe not Spain. Maybe Italy. Who cares. It's Spain and Italy. Might as well be Greece and some other poor country.

  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    lu tze wrote: »
    jefe414 wrote: »
    With regards to soldiers? I name them after GI Joe characters. Males, females, nicknames. All taken care of. Roadblock the heavy? Low Light the sniper? You betcha.
    You're going to run out of names.

    It'll be "gameover, you lose Jefe" before I get through this list:

    GI Joe characters

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Well it's certainly more than the member states of each continental bloc.

    I saw a Portuguese flag for sure in a video and the European states for the satellite coverage are UK, Germany, France and Spain. I think. Maybe not Spain. Maybe Italy. Who cares. It's Spain and Italy. Might as well be Greece and some other poor country.

    "Euro zone has entered a debt crisis - funding from this continent has been reduced."

  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Isn't it a fairly short list of major countries forming the X-COM donor list? I remember seeing somewhere there were only seven or eight countries that you got funding from.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muvjy3yEn1c&list=SP_gF8zzsamW7OFBrEt0WUWlCa4LLS__WE&feature=player_detailpage#t=1131s

    18:51
    And this point in the video you can see all member states.
    It's 16 states all in all.

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  • XaviarXaviar Registered User regular
    Somewhere in the PAX footage I believe, it was asked if you could change a soldier's nation of origin, and JSGA said that was the one thing you couldn't change, so someone asked if their country was represented, and JSGA said there were 40+ countries soldiers could come from.

  • SayuriUlianaSayuriUliana Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    jefe414 wrote: »
    So here is an elusive question: If you cover a continent with sats (all countries), do you get the continental bonus? For example, I start in North America (Air and Space ? YES SIR) then cover the two countries in South America (Monroe Doctrine in effect). Do I get the We Have Ways bonus? Otherwise, after securing North America, I'm heading over to Russia (for that sweet, sweet 150 buckazoids).

    From evidence borne out of discussions in the main forums, that does appear to be the case: You get the continent bonus for the continent that isn't your base once you have total satellite coverage over it. So if you have a base in North America, then have total sat coverage of South America, you not only get "Air & Space" form your base, you also get "We Have Ways" from South America.

    This makes satellite placement even more agonizing. Do you place your satellites on countries that have the most panic to ease them, or do you place them methodically on countries to complete that continental bonuses, even if those countries aren't in any danger yet?
    Isn't it a fairly short list of major countries forming the X-COM donor list? I remember seeing somewhere there were only seven or eight countries that you got funding from.

    The Council of Nations has 16 countries. Lose 8 of them, and you lose the game.

    Also, have a multiplayer match.

    Warning: The following video may result in fits of rage following by generous profanity and screaming game hints and tips at the screen. Viewer discretion is advised.

    PC Gamer - XCOM: Enemy Unknown Multiplayer Match Marsh vs Rich

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    This is PC Gamer. PC. Gamer.

    How are they so bad at this?

    I mean, I made it to about the half hour mark before I simply had to turn it off because the guy still didn't understand you can't move and shoot with a sniper. It literally says it on screen in the tooltip and he did it five fucking times. Why did the other dude spend so many points on sectoid psychic powers and then never use any of them? Why did that guy never use overwatch? Why are they recording this if they're so bad?

    Whenever you have to preface a recording with something along the lines of 'hey by the way we don't know what we're doing so bear with us' you know what you do? Fucking delete the recording and do it again after spending ten minutes reading the goddamn fucking game manual.

    These are professional fucking journalists. Jesus fucking Christ.

    He tried to use the jetpack three times and every single time he didn't know what he was doing he just hovered then landed because his turn timer ran out. I've seen the press kit that comes with the preview build. It's got a fucking bullet point checklist of game mechanics. READ IT YOU MORONS JESUS MOSES.

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  • Iron WeaselIron Weasel Dillon! You son of a bitch!Registered User regular
    I seem to recall Jake saying in the live stream that there were "over 20" nationalities in the game. Assuming he wasn't delirious with fatigue, maybe there are a few countries contributing soldiers, but not money? I'm pretty sure I've seen a Scottish flag on a squaddie's back at some point.

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  • BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    JSGA mentioned in the RPS interview when he was talking about names Scotland specifically so I think they're in

  • SayuriUlianaSayuriUliana Registered User regular
    I seem to recall Jake saying in the live stream that there were "over 20" nationalities in the game. Assuming he wasn't delirious with fatigue, maybe there are a few countries contributing soldiers, but not money? I'm pretty sure I've seen a Scottish flag on a squaddie's back at some point.

    From the official forums, a thread was made solely to figure out what countries were in based on preview videos. This was the result so far:

    Argentina
    Australia
    Belgium
    Brazil
    Canada
    China
    Egypt
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    India
    Ireland
    Israel
    Italy
    Japan
    Mexico
    Netherlands
    Nigeria
    Norway
    Russia
    Saudi Arabia
    Scotland
    South Africa
    South Korea
    Spain
    Sweden
    UK
    Ukraine
    USA

    29 countries so far.

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Dear Firaxis.

    Scotland is a part of the UK. They can't be separate nations you twerps.

  • AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    Greece is an option?

    Do they have to spend 90% of the game begging the rest of Europe for funding?

  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Dear Firaxis.

    Scotland is a part of the UK. They can't be separate nations you twerps.

    I know there's a Scottish flag. Some SC2 player joined a team and asked that it be used for his display info. Some people thought it was nice, some thought it was dumb, others trolled.

    I guess in this alternate reality, Scottland is its own nation.

    We're going to be fighting horrors from outer space with advanced power armour and particle weapons.

    If Scottland being a nation is the most suspension of disbelief breaking thing I encounter during these struggles, I think I'll make it through just fine. :P

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Astale wrote: »
    Greece is an option?

    Do they have to spend 90% of the game begging the rest of Europe for funding?

    Well that's only the lategame. They spend most of the tutorial and first two acts forging human civilization and giving the world rational, scientific theory. Then there's a bit of empire building, a bit of humus and weird dancing, then for the last two seconds of the entire eighty hour game experience they end up losing an amount of money that is roughly equivalent to 5% of the US national debt, which is then paid off by Germany and the rest of Europe for no penalties.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    But all Greek soldiers have massive beards that you cant edit. Even the women. It's weird.

  • SayuriUlianaSayuriUliana Registered User regular
    Jintor wrote: »
    i have been promised review code (360) in two days or so

    It is taking a lot of effort to type this under the inebriating effect of fermented... stuff. I hope you all appreciate this fruitless bounty from the gods.

    Preempting, but if and when you do get the demo, I want to ask this question now: How large is the demo in terms of filesize?

    Also, lucky you.

  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    Astale wrote: »
    Greece is an option?

    Do they have to spend 90% of the game begging the rest of Europe for funding?

    They have a half Greek half German flag.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    But all Greek soldiers have massive beards that you cant edit. Even the women. It's weird.

    I heard tell that nearly 86% of the processing power the game uses is purely to render their beards.

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    Ahh, I must have heard "lose eight nations" and conflated it with the total. Neat.

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    But seriously. The UK includes Scotland. You can't just have that as a separate nationality. You wouldn't have soldiers with a Gaza flag now would you? That would be a major oversight and cause a huge political shitstorm. I demand that bwahaha who am i kidding nobody cares about scotland fuck it

  • GrimmyTOAGrimmyTOA Registered User regular
    Four gigs of game, sixteen gigs of beard textures.

    Glorious.

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Anytime a soldier with the Guile flattop is onscreen, the McCann soundtrack fades away and is replaced by an endless loop of this, the most 80s thing ever.

  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    I don't know why they bothered pretending Xcom was a global force when they seem to have given every soldier an american accent anyway.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Rami wrote: »
    I don't know why they bothered pretending Xcom was a global force when they seem to have given every soldier an american accent anyway.

    In the words of the snakemen that's called sssssssssssssssssssatire

  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Cue French kid from Deus Ex.

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