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Spaceship games, but mostly X

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    Okay, I have myself a hauler and I've managed to finally capture and sell a pirate ship before being blown up myself, so I have about 70,000 credits in the bank, which I realize is not a lot of money.

    Where do I go from here? I feel like I need someone to explain this game to me like I'm five. Going to google around a bit in the mean time with regard to beginner guides and the like.

  • FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    Drew-B wrote: »
    Okay, I have myself a hauler and I've managed to finally capture and sell a pirate ship before being blown up myself, so I have about 70,000 credits in the bank, which I realize is not a lot of money.

    Where do I go from here? I feel like I need someone to explain this game to me like I'm five. Going to google around a bit in the mean time with regard to beginner guides and the like.

    Do what I do, leave the ship unnatended for a while, and hit an asteroid, then fly at turlte speed to spend all your money fixing that ship.

  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    Hmm, I will consider this tactic.

    On a related note, as far as trade command software goes, do I install that on my main ship for combat and the like, or my actual freighter?

    I.e., If I want my freighter to be able to receive more commands remotely, should it receive the software, or should the ship giving the commands receive the software?

    And...why is there seriously no way to view a single detail about the ships you can potentially buy at the shipyard? Am I missing something? That seems kind of fucked. I had to keep alt-tabbing from the game to see what the hell the actual ships were on a wiki.

  • FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    Install the upgrade on the ship that will use such upgrade, regardless of who mans the ship.

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Pretty sure you can just click or right click on the ship to see it's information. No need to alt-tab out as far as I know.

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  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Drew-B wrote: »
    Hmm, I will consider this tactic.

    On a related note, as far as trade command software goes, do I install that on my main ship for combat and the like, or my actual freighter?

    I.e., If I want my freighter to be able to receive more commands remotely, should it receive the software, or should the ship giving the commands receive the software?

    And...why is there seriously no way to view a single detail about the ships you can potentially buy at the shipyard? Am I missing something? That seems kind of fucked. I had to keep alt-tabbing from the game to see what the hell the actual ships were on a wiki.

    Okay, the software affects the ship it's on, so put the software on the ship you're going to make do things.

    Right now if you want to make the ship trade remotely, you'll have to install the trading system extension on your own ship and then enter every command yourself. Keep in mind that you'll need a ship or satellite in every sector you want to see prices in.

    Trade command mk3 software costs about half a million bucks, but that will allow your trader to do its thing completely (mostly) autonomously.

  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Ok, sweet.

    Right now I just have a couple of satellites up in a few sectors and have my mercury doing Ore runs, though most places near me seem to be pretty stocked up at this point so I'm needing to figure out what to do from here.

    I have about 600k in the bank. Sort of at a crossroads at this point. My Buster seems pretty weak as far as combat goes, so I'm looking for some way to upgrade that, but it looks like I'm sort of stuck at the moment as far as that goes. (Nobody will sell me a heavy fighter yet)

    I'm tempted to buy another freighter or two since I can afford them, but it's taking me so long at this point to find a good place to buy cargo and then a good place to sell (not many satellites + still getting a hang of this trading thing), so I'm not sure I want to do that just yet.

    I'm just lookin' for that big score, mannnnn.

    Drew-B on
  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Darmak wrote: »
    Pretty sure you can just click or right click on the ship to see it's information. No need to alt-tab out as far as I know.

    Hm, say I'm in a shipyard and looking at the ships for sale. Right clicking just makes my cursor disappear, as per usual. The only thing I can do is click on the ship to select it, as double clicking does nothing either. It's like this for any piece of equipment, really. No idea what anything does or what the stats of anything might be. No indication of what the difference between X Software Mk1 and X Software Mk 2 are, etc. It's pretty frustrating. :\

    Still having to alt-tab for everything, and even then, finding out what I'm looking for is kind of touch and go. Googling brings up passing references oftentimes, rather than outright definitions. Usually I can find out what I need to, but it's not guaranteed.

    Edit: Sheesh, finally got it figured out. I need to select the ship and hit the "i" key. Still, I wish I could at least see a thumbnail of what the ship looks like. Still a little awkward for me to get bearings on all the ships by looking through a stat sheet that has about 20 different attributes.

    Drew-B on
  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Drew-B wrote: »
    Ok, sweet.

    Right now I just have a couple of satellites up in a few sectors and have my mercury doing Ore runs, though most places near me seem to be pretty stocked up at this point so I'm needing to figure out what to do from here.

    I have about 600k in the bank. Sort of at a crossroads at this point. My Buster seems pretty weak as far as combat goes, so I'm looking for some way to upgrade that, but it looks like I'm sort of stuck at the moment as far as that goes. (Nobody will sell me a heavy fighter yet)

    I'm tempted to buy another freighter or two since I can afford them, but it's taking me so long at this point to find a good place to buy cargo and then a good place to sell (not many satellites + still getting a hang of this trading thing), so I'm not sure I want to do that just yet.

    I'm just lookin' for that big score, mannnnn.

    "looking for that big score" is about 80% of the difficulty of the beginning of the game.
    I need to clarify: You install the trading system extension on the ship you're flying so that you can see prices in systems outside your own. You'll install trade command software on the ship that you want to do the trading so that it'll know how to trade. It's confusing; I know.
    You're playing Reunion, right?

  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    Yup. Reunion.

    I'm going to have a smoke and then muddle about some more, I think.

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Drew-B wrote: »
    Yup. Reunion.

    I'm going to have a smoke and then muddle about some more, I think.

    I know this is for TC, but I imagine a lot of the same concepts will carry over:

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    No linky to kickstarters but Nexus 2 just went up. Strongly considering using my X-Com money to back it instead.

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Hah, fuck.

    I just came back from being away for a few minutes and was confused as to why every single one of my freighters had disappeared. Turns out that I was docked at a station, had undocked and then set my SETA to 10x while I was away for those few minutes to let the economy regulate a bit. Apparently I had all my freighters set to follow me, which is something I never do (I was about to set off to a new part of the galaxy to explore new opportunities, and thought it'd be cool to roll out as a big convoy for once). So, since they sort of float in circles around your ship when set to follow, I assume they all kept bumping into the station I was near, because yeah...every single one of them exploded.

    I reloaded, but I lost about an hour of gametime. Normally I'm constantly saving and docking, but for the hour or so I had been issuing remote orders in very safe sectors and so saving really wasn't really a top priority. I mean, as far as things that could go horribly wrong, this wasn't really something I anticipated.

    So that's the tale about the time Drew-B lost a million credits worth of property in three minutes.

    Drew-B on
  • RabidDeathMooseRabidDeathMoose Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Welcome back to the X universe I guess... heh

    That sucks

    RabidDeathMoose on
  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Yeah, no biggie. It was more confusing than frustrating. Like, oh, of course...after 20+ hours of total game time without a hitch, I leave for three minutes and all my ships explode. Typical.

    Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure they were all colliding and exploding before I even went AFK and I just didn't realize it. Maybe that's a bit sadder. I had to go back two autosaves because the first save gives me about two seconds to react before the final freighter explodes, so that would mean this all went down well before I docked/undocked and engaged SETA. I don't know what the hell I was doing hanging out around that station for so long.

    Drew-B on
  • WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Take the X games, remove the economy, and just make me a pilot based off of a carrier and damnigt Chris Roberts hurry up with your new project I miss wing commander

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Yeah, I mean I'd much rather have a game where I'm issuing orders to squadrons from a command center...maybe throw in some hot swapping between command positions and individual fighters to get some action in there.

    Now that I think about it...How about a kind of turn-based Homeworld with Total War style real-time battle segments for the actual action. You'd have your base ship and build up your fleet, just like in Homeworld, but when it comes time to highlight/select your shit and right click the enemies shit to make it go boom--zip--you're in a cockpit and fighting it out Freespace style.

    Bah, so many awesome design doc possibilities for a genre that has unfortunately become very niche. Bummer.

    Drew-B on
  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    @Weaver, have you tried Nexus: The Jupiter Incident?

    There's no cockpit action, but the feel of commanding ships from afar is very, very cool. Everything seems to animate really well and with very little slacking in the animation department. Fighters fly out of sliding bay doors, troop carriers actually latch onto the enemy ships when boarding, etc. All from a cool little RTS viewpoint (not that you can't zoom in nice and close).

  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    psst

    hey drew

    look at my last post in this thread

    (nexus 2!!!)

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    I'm going to check it out for sure. I just bought Nexus a few days ago so it's all pretty new to me still. I'll be curious to see their video.

    Drew-B on
  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Nexus is fantastic. I mentioned in the Giant Bomb thread that there are two mods I deffo need to check out, the Star Wars and Freespace ones.

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  • WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    I haven't tried that.

    One of my favorite things about X:R was that I could fly a corvette, with turrets all over, and still direct my fields of fire, launch missiles and torpedoes, issue commands to escort fighters.

    But it was all bogged down with spending hours and hours trading and constructing factories, and the story was shit.

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  • WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    The Centaur, that was my favorite ship.

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  • WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    If you flew that ship in a corkscrew pattern, you'd always have maximum turret coverage on fighters trying to maneuver around you.

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  • Volucrisus AedriusVolucrisus Aedrius Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    See I just cheated and gave myself a huge wallet and then I was able to pursue my activities at my leisure.

    If you give yourself constraints, the game can still be challenging! Like, say, start with a million credits, but they are in an imaginary "trust fund," and you cannot spend them on your own self or your ship, they are there to augment a trading fleet to get your money works started.

    You know that part in Top Gun where they pretend the Hard Deck is like a half mile above the ground?

    That is how I play games when I use cheat codes.

    Volucrisus Aedrius on
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
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    What would be your ultimate slam dunk??
    I would dunk it so hard my parents would love each other again
  • SkylarkSkylark o7 Vile Rat o7 o7 Photon Torpedo o7Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Bethesda games have an excellent community of modders and custom content designers, but granted, these are single player games.

    My favourite spaceship memory outside of Eve is in the original X-Wing (fuck yea, DOS prompt), flying an A-Wing through walls of lasers, diverting all my shield and weapon power to engines, and weaving between Corvettes and Star Destroyers because why the fuck not?

    X-Wing's targeting, power management, repair systems management were so well-designed and fun, I have still to find a space combat simulator that gives me the same degree of enjoyment. The mission I'm linking here also highlights the unique mission design: a recon mission, where you are not expected to engage any targets:


    What starts off as a simple recon mission, ends up with an entire fleet jumping in. You are still required to ID every capital ship.

    19 years later, and this game can still hold its own.

    Skylark on
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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Man, I have a lot of fond memories from that era of PC games.

    I remember being so fucking excited about our PC. Our PC? Our PC had Windows! And, get this, it has a fucking CD Rom. Fucking CDs man.

    I still remember the first time, quite vividly in fact, that my older brother called me over and had me shoot a nazi off in the distance in Wolfenstein. It was an instant, "Holy shit what the fuck is *this*?!" moment. It was just one of those things where, when you saw it for the first time, you instantly knew, "Okay. This is a thing. This is a big fucking thing."

    Drew-B on
  • RabidDeathMooseRabidDeathMoose Registered User regular
    God damn Skylark, I remember that mission. Dialing all power to engines in the A-wing and then just absolutely screaming between capital ships was so amazing.

  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    I'm pretty amazed that all of the x-wing games manage to give you a really good sense of speed even in space

    in other news, I'm going to give evochron mercenary a try

    what's the word on that one, folks?

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  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    Escape Velocity is the best space game, sorry other space games

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  • Volucrisus AedriusVolucrisus Aedrius Registered User regular
    Click to start the mission:
    DIVE

    DIVE

    DIVE

    HIT YOUR BURNERS, PILOT!

    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    Keith wrote:
    What would be your ultimate slam dunk??
    I would dunk it so hard my parents would love each other again
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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Click to start the mission:
    DIVE

    DIVE

    DIVE

    HIT YOUR BURNERS, PILOT!

    Love that Freespace mission so much.

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  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Escape Velocity is the best space game, sorry other space games

    The Key to Dominating systems

    1) Purchase kestrel
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    4) Outrun missiles
    5) Kill attacking ships with turrets while remaining out of range of their own guns
    6) Repeat until successful

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    Alright, as far as X goes...

    I'm still mostly just selling ore. I have a little over a million credits and a few mercury ships on top of my buster.

    I suppose I should start looking to sell some more valuable stuff? For the last few hours I've been making small-time money, pretty much. 20k here, 30k there. Not sure really what to do at this point. I haven't really strayed too far from Argon space at this point.

  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    I haven't played a good space game since EV Nova

    not that I've played many space games


    ...guess I'll toss a few on the WTB list

    I skipped most of this thread because I want to talk about how awesome EV Nova was and how ludicrous Ambrosia Software's pricing structure is

    I mean I liked EV Nova but it came out a decade ago

    they are still selling it for $30, EV Override is $25 and the original Escape Velocity, which came out in 1996, is $20

    Maelstrom, which I loved, but won't even run on anything but an OS 9 Mac, is $15

    who is going to buy these games from them

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Escape Velocity is the best space game, sorry other space games

    Really? I remember it kind of sucking... you couldn't really do much in the way of flying, it was like a limited version of Magic Carpet.

  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    Also has anyone else mentioned Beyond the Red Line? The Battlestar Galactica Freespace 2 mod?

    I remember it being pretty cool however many years ago that was

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
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    Artreus wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    I haven't played a good space game since EV Nova

    not that I've played many space games


    ...guess I'll toss a few on the WTB list

    I skipped most of this thread because I want to talk about how awesome EV Nova was and how ludicrous Ambrosia Software's pricing structure is

    I mean I liked EV Nova but it came out a decade ago

    they are still selling it for $30, EV Override is $25 and the original Escape Velocity, which came out in 1996, is $20

    Maelstrom, which I loved, but won't even run on anything but an OS 9 Mac, is $15

    who is going to buy these games from them

    Well, I did awhile back. Wonder how much business they're still getting.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Artreus wrote: »
    Also has anyone else mentioned Beyond the Red Line? The Battlestar Galactica Freespace 2 mod?

    I remember it being pretty cool however many years ago that was

    They released BSG Diaspora as a freeware standalone game



    www.diasporagame.com

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  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    wow that looks pretty

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