Is there a particular origin that's super cool? I was thinking a female dwarf commoner who bashes the shit out of people with her hammer, but my wife played human noble about a year ago and really enjoyed it.
I've played Female Woodland Elf, Male Circle Mage, Female Human Noble, and Female Dwarf Noble. Mage was definitely the least enjoyable, with Woodland Elf not far behind. Human Noble and Dwarf Noble have both been a lot of fun.
I wouldn't choose rogue as a class though. I think it's the weakest of the three PC options in DAO (though a very good PC option in DA2), while the most entertaining party members (to me, anyway) are rogues, so you don't want to get too homogenized. I've found your party works best in DAO when your attacks are diverse.
If you've never played Origins, I suggest Dwarf Noble. In my opinion it meshes the best with the overall story, and really makes you invested in certain decisions.
I didn't think it was bad per se. Just compared to others, I didn't find it as enticing. Granted you did have the connection to the Howe family which can be interesting later on and in Awakening.
That reminds me if you played the Dalish Origin do you get any special references in Morrigan's DLC (I didn't buy it)? I'm guessing no.
I didn't think it was bad per se. Just compared to others, I didn't find it as enticing. Granted you did have the connection to the Howe family which can be interesting later on and in Awakening.
That reminds me if you played the Dalish Origin do you get any special references in Morrigan's DLC (I didn't buy it)? I'm guessing no.
I do like that if you do the Dalish origin in DA:O everything with Merrill and her Clan in DA2 has a slightly different feel to it.
I didn't think it was bad per se. Just compared to others, I didn't find it as enticing. Granted you did have the connection to the Howe family which can be interesting later on and in Awakening.
That reminds me if you played the Dalish Origin do you get any special references in Morrigan's DLC (I didn't buy it)? I'm guessing no.
Actually, you do get a lot of Dalish Origin-specific comments in Witch Hunt. That, and Merril showing up/being you biggest fan in DA2 pretty much make up for how little the Dalish Origin connected to any of the plots in the main story compared to the others.
So my wedding was crashed, my husband killed, my bridesmaid murdered, my maid of honor raped, somebody tried to rape me, and I had to kill a whole castle full of people
And the game made two separate references to the preposterous amount of blood I was just showered in
That's an opening there, buddy
Also I took a couple of feats in dual-weapon fighting, got a greatsword, and decided to go with two-handed weapons instead. Did I miss out on those points forever? I guess it doesn't matter too much.
So my wedding was crashed, my husband killed, my bridesmaid murdered, my maid of honor raped, somebody tried to rape me, and I had to kill a whole castle full of people
And the game made two separate references to the preposterous amount of blood I was just showered in
That's an opening there, buddy
Also I took a couple of feats in dual-weapon fighting, got a greatsword, and decided to go with two-handed weapons instead. Did I miss out on those points forever? I guess it doesn't matter too much.
The best part: Mr. Rapist is Male Hawke
granted he also voiced the relatively cool Ser Bryant
So my wedding was crashed, my husband killed, my bridesmaid murdered, my maid of honor raped, somebody tried to rape me, and I had to kill a whole castle full of people
And the game made two separate references to the preposterous amount of blood I was just showered in
That's an opening there, buddy
Also I took a couple of feats in dual-weapon fighting, got a greatsword, and decided to go with two-handed weapons instead. Did I miss out on those points forever? I guess it doesn't matter too much.
If you're on the PC you can use the respec mod to reset any points. Otherwise, yeah, you can't get those dual wield points back. But, it's not a huge deal really.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
Oh yeah. Now that I think about there is something I want back from DA:O.
I don't mind the finishing moves for the smaller/human enemies, since they were pretty quick, but for things like Ogres I much preferred the cutscene style finishers DA2 used. I can't count how many times I or Wynne would be shanked because Alistair was too busy leaping all over an Ogre to actually tank things.
I love messy kills, especially on ogres. I actually use the more messy kills mod. There is nothing greater than watching an ethereal Wynne in ancient elven armor jump up and stab an ogre in the eye with Spellweaver.
I'd like it if finishing moves made a note of what kind of weapon you're wielding. Stabbing a dragon in its head loses a bit of its awesome charm when you're stabbing him with a blunt hammer.
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Any idiot can stab an ogre through the head with a sword.
It takes a real warrior to stab an ogre through the head with a hammer.
I was giving Dragon Age 2 another shot, i'd only done one playthrough prior to this. Sarcastic femhawke is pretty fantastic, but then I met Anders and immediately lost all interest in continuing the experiment, remembering what was ahead of me.
I think i'll just leave it at one.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
I will say that I personally think Anders is one of the best worst characters in a game ever.
It's not just the whole lying terrorist twat bit, either.
Anders in DA2 is a never ending series of character and system violations.
Anders in Awakening is a rogue, but he's cheery and reliable as a Grey Warden. And yet in DA2 he somehow has so much anger that he actually warps Justice with it into Vengeance. It wasn't something that was always going to happen, they specifically say Anders' rage made it happen. And he's also a super shitty Grey Warden in DA2 as well. He sees and learns so much important stuff on the Darkspawn in Awakening and suddenly they don't matter in DA2. It's all Templars all the time.
And then we get to the mechanics. Anders as he is in DA2 should be one of the strongest motherfuckers in Ferelden by FAR. He's the composite of two epic characters. He shoulda been able to single handedly fuck up Meredith's shit. And furthermore, the whole Vengeance thing is stressed in the story, but it's the wrong wrongy mcwrongest way to go from a mechanics standpoint. If you're not healing with Anders you're doing it wrong, and that is a direct contradiction to the story as it stands.
Anders' character change is because he becomes an abomination
Incorrect. As I mentioned, it is pointed out that Anders' rage that corrupts Justice, not the other way around.
That and Wynne pretty much state it would have gone fine if Anders had not inexplicably become a giant prick.
If they had stated that somehow the taint from the going Grey Warden had corrupted the process then that would have been fine and I don't think we'd be bitching as much. But they don't. They say flat out that it is all Anders' own goddamn fault.
And then of course he pretends to try and fix it while actually lying his ass off to you.
You said his character changes because he becomes an abomination.
It isn't. It's the other way around.
Yes having Justice has some consequences. Mainly, that he sometimes loses control over his actions. But that's a reaction to him getting angry. He's not a fundamentally different person because of Justice.
And admittedly there are two different explanations for why Anders blows up the Chantey based on your relationship with him(he takes responsibility if you are friends and insists Vengeance did it if rival, though I imagine being a rival he's likely lying there).
yes, he is a fundamentally different person because of being an abomination and says as much when you ask him about it, all that dialogue about how you couldn't tell where Anders ends and Justice begins
it's not just that Anders is so angry that he warps Justice, it's also that Justice as a fade spirit doesn't understand how human minds work and simplifies the conflict in Anders' head and makes it all about vengeance. it's a symbiosis that harms both parties.
One thing that strikes me about this game so far, and this is kind of echoed in a different way in Mass Effect, is that BioWare is pretty good about addressing death and war and culture and hsit like that there, but they still seem kinda spooked about sex. Like, not even sex itself, but nudity, and sometimes words
The female city elf origin is basically fighting off a bunch of rapists, and rape is an undercurrent of everything going on from the second Vaughan walks onto the scene
But nobody ever uses the word "rape", it's always cutesy euphemisms or avoiding it openly, even when you're helping your cousin up off the floor after assuring her that yes, yes they're all dead, you've killed all of them, can she walk?
It's not as bad as showering in your bra but I can't help comparing it to the Witcher games, where a rape was just called a rape and if you flinched then good
Also I'm gonna do my level best to ignore all this talk about Anders, and make sure my wife doesn't come into this topic since she hasn't played DA2 yet
Also I'm gonna do my level best to ignore all this talk about Anders, and make sure my wife doesn't come into this topic since she hasn't played DA2 yet
Don't worry about Anders. He's not in DA:O proper, just the DLC. He becomes a main companion in DA2.
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Shit Wyborn, I'm sorry bro. I forgot that you just started playing this. I'll spoiler my shit from now on.
I'll not spoiler this though, Tim Curry is a voice actor in DA1, try and guess who he plays.
Hint: It's one of the reasons I like Human Noble so much.
Gaider, from what books he's wrote, that I've read, lacks a certain mental maturity. He can't seem to write in a way that resonates with more mature themes. In his games, he never has to write dialog for things like "rape", "child murder", "horrible disfigurement", and "sex". It's all implied through the graphics, but it's not in the dialog. Gaider can get away with it in the games, but he tiptoes around it. The dialog will be something like, "<kids name> was just a boy, how could <name> do this?! /sob" but you will never hear someone say, "He murdered my wife and child."
It's not so obvious in the games, because the visuals tell part of the story, but Stolen Throne and other Gaider books I've read, it's glaringly obvious and the tone is so different, it's jarring.
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Also I'm gonna do my level best to ignore all this talk about Anders, and make sure my wife doesn't come into this topic since she hasn't played DA2 yet
Hah yeah I tried to do that too. I completed the game for the first time just recently. Coming into the game I managed to keep my knowledge of the game as little as possible, and the only thing I really knew was "fuck Anders". Honestly playing the game I didn't have too much of a problem with Anders because I was busy hating on Fenris anyway
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I've played Female Woodland Elf, Male Circle Mage, Female Human Noble, and Female Dwarf Noble. Mage was definitely the least enjoyable, with Woodland Elf not far behind. Human Noble and Dwarf Noble have both been a lot of fun.
I wouldn't choose rogue as a class though. I think it's the weakest of the three PC options in DAO (though a very good PC option in DA2), while the most entertaining party members (to me, anyway) are rogues, so you don't want to get too homogenized. I've found your party works best in DAO when your attacks are diverse.
however, it means you have to play a class that isn't mage
Dwarf Noble is the best imo.
Dalish Elf is boring though.
Female city elf is best though
It's so completely fucked
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I didn't think it was bad per se. Just compared to others, I didn't find it as enticing. Granted you did have the connection to the Howe family which can be interesting later on and in Awakening.
That reminds me if you played the Dalish Origin do you get any special references in Morrigan's DLC (I didn't buy it)? I'm guessing no.
I do like that if you do the Dalish origin in DA:O everything with Merrill and her Clan in DA2 has a slightly different feel to it.
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Actually, you do get a lot of Dalish Origin-specific comments in Witch Hunt. That, and Merril showing up/being you biggest fan in DA2 pretty much make up for how little the Dalish Origin connected to any of the plots in the main story compared to the others.
And the game made two separate references to the preposterous amount of blood I was just showered in
That's an opening there, buddy
Also I took a couple of feats in dual-weapon fighting, got a greatsword, and decided to go with two-handed weapons instead. Did I miss out on those points forever? I guess it doesn't matter too much.
The best part: Mr. Rapist is Male Hawke
There's one bad-ass execution where you pop a guy in the chin with the hilt of your sword and then lay him open from stem to stern
But then there's the EXPLOSIVE DECAPITATION, and every conversation you have after battle having you as some kind of canvas for red-colored horror.
This is my first time playing through the game so you guys are going to be hearing all about it
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The finishing moves.
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It takes a real warrior to stab an ogre through the head with a hammer.
I think i'll just leave it at one.
...in Awakening.
I love Anders in Awakening, he cracked me up with his banter. Even his little Easter Egg in Witch Hunt cracked me up.
I will never forgive what they did to his character.
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Anders in DA2 is a never ending series of character and system violations.
Anders in Awakening is a rogue, but he's cheery and reliable as a Grey Warden. And yet in DA2 he somehow has so much anger that he actually warps Justice with it into Vengeance. It wasn't something that was always going to happen, they specifically say Anders' rage made it happen. And he's also a super shitty Grey Warden in DA2 as well. He sees and learns so much important stuff on the Darkspawn in Awakening and suddenly they don't matter in DA2. It's all Templars all the time.
And then we get to the mechanics. Anders as he is in DA2 should be one of the strongest motherfuckers in Ferelden by FAR. He's the composite of two epic characters. He shoulda been able to single handedly fuck up Meredith's shit. And furthermore, the whole Vengeance thing is stressed in the story, but it's the wrong wrongy mcwrongest way to go from a mechanics standpoint. If you're not healing with Anders you're doing it wrong, and that is a direct contradiction to the story as it stands.
Incorrect. As I mentioned, it is pointed out that Anders' rage that corrupts Justice, not the other way around.
That and Wynne pretty much state it would have gone fine if Anders had not inexplicably become a giant prick.
If they had stated that somehow the taint from the going Grey Warden had corrupted the process then that would have been fine and I don't think we'd be bitching as much. But they don't. They say flat out that it is all Anders' own goddamn fault.
And then of course he pretends to try and fix it while actually lying his ass off to you.
he's an abomination
you can't have a spirit of vengeance living in your brain and be the same person, even if you're the one who created the spirit of vengeace
as a human Anders can suppress his anger, not so much when Justice is constantly going "so yeah we should probably go murder all the templars right"
It isn't. It's the other way around.
Yes having Justice has some consequences. Mainly, that he sometimes loses control over his actions. But that's a reaction to him getting angry. He's not a fundamentally different person because of Justice.
And admittedly there are two different explanations for why Anders blows up the Chantey based on your relationship with him(he takes responsibility if you are friends and insists Vengeance did it if rival, though I imagine being a rival he's likely lying there).
it's not just that Anders is so angry that he warps Justice, it's also that Justice as a fade spirit doesn't understand how human minds work and simplifies the conflict in Anders' head and makes it all about vengeance. it's a symbiosis that harms both parties.
The female city elf origin is basically fighting off a bunch of rapists, and rape is an undercurrent of everything going on from the second Vaughan walks onto the scene
But nobody ever uses the word "rape", it's always cutesy euphemisms or avoiding it openly, even when you're helping your cousin up off the floor after assuring her that yes, yes they're all dead, you've killed all of them, can she walk?
It's not as bad as showering in your bra but I can't help comparing it to the Witcher games, where a rape was just called a rape and if you flinched then good
Also I'm gonna do my level best to ignore all this talk about Anders, and make sure my wife doesn't come into this topic since she hasn't played DA2 yet
Don't worry about Anders. He's not in DA:O proper, just the DLC. He becomes a main companion in DA2.
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I'll not spoiler this though, Tim Curry is a voice actor in DA1, try and guess who he plays.
Hint: It's one of the reasons I like Human Noble so much.
Gaider, from what books he's wrote, that I've read, lacks a certain mental maturity. He can't seem to write in a way that resonates with more mature themes. In his games, he never has to write dialog for things like "rape", "child murder", "horrible disfigurement", and "sex". It's all implied through the graphics, but it's not in the dialog. Gaider can get away with it in the games, but he tiptoes around it. The dialog will be something like, "<kids name> was just a boy, how could <name> do this?! /sob" but you will never hear someone say, "He murdered my wife and child."
It's not so obvious in the games, because the visuals tell part of the story, but Stolen Throne and other Gaider books I've read, it's glaringly obvious and the tone is so different, it's jarring.
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Could be worse.
Could be Qunari. They're the worst.
To be fair, if you're an Elf this kind of thinking is understandable.
Hah yeah I tried to do that too. I completed the game for the first time just recently. Coming into the game I managed to keep my knowledge of the game as little as possible, and the only thing I really knew was "fuck Anders". Honestly playing the game I didn't have too much of a problem with Anders because I was busy hating on Fenris anyway
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