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Yo, it's Time for Mitt Romney's Def Zinger Jam Y'all! : [Prezzy Debate #1] Oct 3rd 8pm EST
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Broadcast Details: (The details page says the live stream starts at 8, but the broadcast is listed to start at 9:30)
TV Channels – Each debate will be broadcast live on C-SPAN, ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC, as well as all cable news channels including CNN, Fox News and MSNBC among others.
Live Streams can be found here - http://gigaom.com/video/presidential-debate-live-stream/
Topic: Domestic policy
Moderator: Jim Lehrer (Host of NewsHour on PBS)
Format:
Supposedly three of the topics discussed will be health care, the economy, and "the role of government". Jim Lehrer has never been one to challenge his debaters, so you can probably expect to get angry at the TV a lot.
The Debaters
Barry O'Bama (Sitting President from 1992-2012, running for his 6th straight term)
It has been recently discovered by the Drudge Report that the president is, in fact, a black man, a detail which had previously never been mentioned by conservative pols or media. The Romney campaign expects this shocking revelation to shake up the race any day now... Any day now. Obama is well-known as a radical left-wing moderate, and his use of old Republican policies from the 90s helps assure his base that their party will stand up and fight for what they believe in - the Republican party platform from 15 years ago.
Willard "Mitt" Romney, former Governor of the Soviet State of Massachusetts and Savior of the Olympics
Mitt Romney and his beautiful hair are/n't proud to be from the great/socialist state of Utah/Massachusetts. He opposed/supported universal health care in his own state, which is why he knows we should/n't have national universal health care. Romney is a strong proponent of trees that are just the right height and America. He has a variety of plans to help America thrive, which are secret so don't ask you can't see them. Now for gods sake, look at that perfectly coiffed hair! Could a man be any more presidential?!?
TV Channels – Each debate will be broadcast live on C-SPAN, ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC, as well as all cable news channels including CNN, Fox News and MSNBC among others.
Live Streams can be found here - http://gigaom.com/video/presidential-debate-live-stream/
Topic: Domestic policy
Moderator: Jim Lehrer (Host of NewsHour on PBS)
Format:
The debate will focus on domestic policy and be divided into six time segments of approximately 15 minutes each on topics to be selected by the moderator and announced several weeks before the debate.
The moderator will open each segment with a question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a discussion of the topic."
Supposedly three of the topics discussed will be health care, the economy, and "the role of government". Jim Lehrer has never been one to challenge his debaters, so you can probably expect to get angry at the TV a lot.
The Debaters
Barry O'Bama (Sitting President from 1992-2012, running for his 6th straight term)
It has been recently discovered by the Drudge Report that the president is, in fact, a black man, a detail which had previously never been mentioned by conservative pols or media. The Romney campaign expects this shocking revelation to shake up the race any day now... Any day now. Obama is well-known as a radical left-wing moderate, and his use of old Republican policies from the 90s helps assure his base that their party will stand up and fight for what they believe in - the Republican party platform from 15 years ago.
Willard "Mitt" Romney, former Governor of the Soviet State of Massachusetts and Savior of the Olympics
Mitt Romney and his beautiful hair are/n't proud to be from the great/socialist state of Utah/Massachusetts. He opposed/supported universal health care in his own state, which is why he knows we should/n't have national universal health care. Romney is a strong proponent of trees that are just the right height and America. He has a variety of plans to help America thrive, which are secret so don't ask you can't see them. Now for gods sake, look at that perfectly coiffed hair! Could a man be any more presidential?!?
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I haven't been this excited about anything ever, and that includes the time I once found $10 on the sidewalk.
Might I suggest that we start a traditional POTUS debate drinking game?
Every time Mitt Romney says the word "redistribute" or some variation thereof, you have to take a shot. At your minority neighbor. You all saw it, he was trespassing! This ground won't stand itself.
I'm predicting some anger at the TV, Mrs. Zagdrob telling me to quiet down before I wake up the little one, then an argument about how this is why we can't watch politics and I get too worked up. Fifteen minutes later she'll either be going to bed in a huff, or we'll be watching yesterday's NCIS.
About typical for politics in our house.
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CBS has to get Survivor in.
Note: I'm 90% sure this is the real reason.
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Are your expectations that your desire to burn the American Media to the ground will rise to near pitchfork levels? Because that's pretty much the only thing you should assume with an American political debate.
1) His debates with Ted Kennedy from 1994, which he entered roughly tied and left a 20 point loser
2) His debates with the collection of chucklefucks that ran for President this year.
The only thing I remember about his debates in the primaries was "It's my turn now, you had your turn, it's my turn."
Other than that he just kind of sat in the background most of the time. At least in my memory he didn't stand out in the least.
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That's.......kind of strange, because I'd normally peg that as your usual false-equivocation-du-jour, but Fallows is faaaaaaaaar above doing that sort of thing.
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Heh yeah I had forgotten that bet. Oh Romney.
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I could be misremembering the article, but I thought it was that of all the various venues that campaigning takes (stump speeches, grip and grin, press conferences, major speeches, debates, &c.) Romney is best at debating. Which doesn't necessarily say much, considering how bad he is at the other ones. It's all relative rather than in comparison to an objective Platonic ideal debater. So don't underestimate him because he's so bad on the stump.
For two, he actually was pretty good at the primary debates even though they weren't particularly challenging. Especially considering the fact that there were literally (and not Biden literally) two dozen debates that he took part in. There were a couple big gaffes that happened when he got miffed, but on the whole he put in a very workmanlike performance. Which isn't going to be enough to turn things around, but its not like he's going to be in over his head either. Unless he goes in swinging for the fences and stumbles on his own attempts at grandiloquence he's going to come out of this more or less tied with Obama's performance. Which is pretty good so far as debates go. Just not good enough for him in the campaign given the status quo.
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I was gonna run irc but I won't be home in time, so someone else needs to pick up the torch
By being able to acknowledge the difference between disagreeing with a statement and judging someone's capacity of delivering that statement.
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but it is at 3 AM
How long will it be?
Typically they're an hour and a half. Longer if you want to hear all the spin afterwards, but that tends to leave you worse off than if you just turned the TV off.
Yeah he'll destroy Obama.
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90 minutes.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/03/politics/debate-five-things/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews
FOR DEMOCRACY
I also saw a similar poll showing roughly the opposite where people thought Ryan would win the VP debate. I guess Biden won't have to lower expectations much before showing the world the guy is not a policy wonk.
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Having a party to watch a debate is like having a party to wash my car. It's a festive occasion held in honor of a huge chore that only sounds fun if you think there's the possibility that college girls in bikinis are going to show up with a bucket of suds. Hint: college girls in bikinis are not going to show up with a bucket of suds.
And considering how few undecided voters are still out there, I'm not sure anyone remembered to bring a car to the aforementioned car wash metaphor.
I'm more interested in seeing what the TV ratings look like for the debate and reading the summary roundups for those undecided voters who are going to build most of their impression about the debate based upon how it's reported tomorrow. But I guess I can't really skip out on my friends....
I cannot wait for the VP debate. Biden is most likely going to *obliterate* Ryan. It will be glorious.
You make everything sound so awful Sammy, this is an amazing ability.
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The answer is simple.
Just lie.
If everything Romney says is patently untrue he will win. I'm talking monstrous, obvious, heretofore unimaginable lies of a magnitude far outstripping anything we have ever seen, with pants so on fire that they exceed the Planck Temperature.
You cannot fight that kind of blatant dishonesty if it is shoveled on at a pace approaching c. The media will not call him on his lies and Obama will be positively dumbfounded that a presidential candidate would dare to say such things. Will the American people fact check it? Maybe, but even if they do you'll have entire news organizations dedicated to obfuscating the facts themselves and replacing them with a narrative of "what he meant to say" and "a more concise phrasing".
Romney will win, and we will not know anything more about his policy at the end of the day than we did at the beginning, and noone will care.
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Grilled Cheesus, I'm looking forward to the debate party with my friends. Throw in some booze or debate bingo. I'm sure you could find a way to make it more enjoyable. Or try this one: sit next to the TV and take pictures of your friend's faces during some of the more egregious lies.