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I'm bored and considering a move. Help me find the PERFECT spot in the world
BlindZenDriver
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I currently live in Denmark and while most things are pretty great it's now fall and the weather is turning ugly and will be so until April or May. Since this bugs me every year and I feel the need for something new and exciting to happen I am considering a move - only the big question is then a move to where?
Here is what I'm looking for:
- A democracy, or something close to.
- A reasonable technical level ie. Hospitals, internet, stable electric power...
- The population must be doing well. Not as in being rich but as in earning a living (and not one based on crime).
- Low level of corruption and crime all round.
- A free and open society ie. free press, no suppression of minorities...
- Weather needs to be fair all year round. And by this I mean not to hot and not to humid or in other terms at the most very limited need for AC and most definitely no need for a snow shovel.
- A way to obtain a living and working permit.
And then there is a list of "nice to have":
- Access to the sea
- A language I speak is generally understood. That would be English, German, Danish/Swedish/Norwegian or French/Spanish(which I know a little).
- Not to crowded
Any suggestions (please include why)?
Here is what I'm looking for:
- A democracy, or something close to.
- A reasonable technical level ie. Hospitals, internet, stable electric power...
- The population must be doing well. Not as in being rich but as in earning a living (and not one based on crime).
- Low level of corruption and crime all round.
- A free and open society ie. free press, no suppression of minorities...
- Weather needs to be fair all year round. And by this I mean not to hot and not to humid or in other terms at the most very limited need for AC and most definitely no need for a snow shovel.
- A way to obtain a living and working permit.
And then there is a list of "nice to have":
- Access to the sea
- A language I speak is generally understood. That would be English, German, Danish/Swedish/Norwegian or French/Spanish(which I know a little).
- Not to crowded
Any suggestions (please include why)?
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But here are some suggestions: Italy, Spain, Portugal, southern France, overseas territories which are part of France or the Netherlands, like Aruba, Curaçao or Réunion.
If you want more English-y speaking place in the same general area, you could think about Gibraltar. You could also think about the Adriatic coast of Croatia or someplace along those lines. Apparently English and German are pretty widely-spoken down there.
Alternately, the southern bits of British Columbia (in Canada) are pretty damn nice if you can handle a bit of rain.
You should be aware that as far as corruption goes, Denmark is basically a high water mark. The Scandinavian countries are pretty much always the least-corrupt countries in the world; anywhere you go is going to be more corrupt, almost everywhere significantly more corrupt.
Like Grimmy says, your citizenship as a member of the EU makes France or Spain your best bets, probably some small seaside town, there, though those places can get crowded during the tourist seasons. I would suggest Italy, too, as far as weather goes, but the political and economic unrest there combined with the corruption don't fit your other priorities.
Further out, depending on how much you're willing to compromise on weather, parts of New Zealand are quite temperate from what I understand. And like Grimmy says, the southern part of the western coast of Canada is very temperate, if you don't mind the rain. Seattle and Portland in the U.S. are similar, though Seattle is probably too crowded for your tastes.
That being said, if I were to read your requirements minus the language request and make a suggestion in the dark with no knowledge of your background, I would probably be pointing you at Denmark as the country where you can get all those things while compromising any of them the least.
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Australia seems to fit every single one of your priorities. We didn't feel the global economic crunch anywhere near as badly as most of the rest of the world, we have a relatively low population density even in capital cities, and the weather is amazing. A typical winter day is around 14-18 degrees celsius during the day, and rarely gets anywhere near zero even at night. Summer is very warm, typical summer days are always approaching mid 30s celsius, and most years you get a heatwave of 3 or 4 days in a row where the temperature is high 30s/low 40s every day. I realise that might be too warm, but it doesn't get like that every day, and I think you'll struggle to find a country that is both warm in winter and cool in summer.
Sounds like a perfect fit to me, with the sole exception that visas are a little trickier to obtain, and you'd have to start off with whats called a Working Holiday visa, which is a 12month visa that lets you work for any employer for up to 6 months in a row.
I think the south of France would suit most of your needs.
I work in Application Security and my options will be similar in a couple years, French citizenship from my girlfriend down the line won't hurt either. I'm a native Californian and she has dual French/US citizenship through her parents.
Ironically one of the only places I might not be able to work from is France as they have really strict anti-hacking laws unless you work for the government. I already work remotely which affords me a high degree of mobility.
If your not into islands, I would like to echo the statement that San Diego is a nice place to live, and really it is probably the most temperate place you are likely to find.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria,_British_Columbia
And if you want a Mediterranean climate combined with English as the native language I guess there is Malta.
I have compiled a list of the suggested locations so far:
Aruba, Curaçao or Réunion (Overseas territories which are part of France or the Netherlands)
Australia (maybe Sydney)
California
Croatia (Mediterranean coast)
Emerald Coast (Florida)
France (south of)
Gibraltar
Grand Cayman
Italy
Malta
New Zealand
Portugal
San Diego
Singapore
Spain
Switzerlaaaaand :-)
Victoria, British Columbia
Virgin Islands
I also want to give a reply to the questions in the posts above plus add a couple of remarks.
I'm working in IT as an Incident Manager(ITIL) with a background as both a programmer, network administrator and project manager so most likely I'd be looking for an IT job. However I'm also pretty handy with a hammer, a wrench or for that matter a beer tap so with I'm hoping that should widen the job options. Finding work on the internet may also be a way forward.
The possible living costs in the different places are not a big worry - at least not initially as Copenhagen, where I currently live, is usually listed within or just around the top ten most expensive cities to live in. So I expect to be used to that kind of thing. In the long term costs can be an issue but that then depends more of what sort of work I can find. (for reference - here small menu at McDonalds is something like US$11-12 or so).
I like Italy a lot but it is also a crazy place (what they did earlier today sort of highlights that: bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20025626. But be it Italy, France, Spain or anywhere else within the EU would certainly make many things very easy. Permission to live and work would be a given. And if was to be really lazy I could stay in any of those places while collecting Danish unemployment benefits (aprox. $3150 a month) until finding a job (or 6 months passes). Unfortunately the current job market in the south of Europe is bad so that could be a challenge.
It may sound silly but in a way I'm thinking staying within the EU would be to easy, not enough change. I don't know.
I shall keep thinking and also do more research :-)
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Seriously tho...Maybe Hawaii? Florida? Near the Gulf of Mexico maybe.
Surely that's a typo?
It's not that unbelievable. Things cost a lot in Denmark.
Seriously though as someone who lives there it's diverse enough that you can find pretty much any niche culture you can dream of. It ranges from complete poverty to multi millionaires. (But technically it's located in California
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Honolulu has incredibly weather, but all I know about it past that is good food, and nice beaches.
Tropical places like Hawaii have great weather too but have far more rain and storms and also generally get a little hotter with more humidity. San Diego is expensive as balls for a reason.
Lamu, Kenya is really nice. English speaking,UNESCO heritage site, island, pretty far away from Kenya's poor areas (the north of the country is close to Africa's pain belt), and relatively prosperous. While Mombasa is the international tourist destination, Lamu seems to be the big place for citizens to go. Note that while the area isn't a theocracy, the local standards of decorum are set by the conservative Muslim majority.
Overall, though, Gibraltar seems the best choice, as it's relatively close, English speaking, and both Mediterranean and Atlantic.
If you want to go far afield, might as well go with Oceania. Papua New Guinea if you like tropical, Southland in New Zealand if you like temperate.
If Incident Manager also means Incident Response and you are looking to change employers I could put in a good word for you with my company. That division is hiring last I checked. Entire workforce is remote, would be able to work from pretty much anywhere in the US, possibly abroad although I'm not completely sure. They might be willing to sponsor you for an H1-B if you're good.
You do Reverse Engineering?
That is a very generous offer.
In some ways Incident Management is Incident Response but in others then not so much. In broad terms Incident Management is analyzing reports from all sorts of sources, finding out which are actual problems, prioritizing them and making sure the right people fix the issues. Sometimes one may work closely with colleagues and do actual work on a problem and other times it may be making a supplier fix something - this maybe in perfect harmony or perhaps under the threat of financial consequences.
Some sort of Reverse Engineering can be part of analyzing a problem but mostly only on a logical level.
I may get back to you on your offer but I am still in the very early stages of my little project. For starters selling my apartment needs to happen first.
I'm keeping San Diego on the list on purpose. As a European I need to remind my self that California is more than San Francisco, Napa Vally, the Hollywood sign and the 90210 area. As a car nut I also know of Laguna Seca and the coastal Highway but there is certainly more to know - like San Diego.
Exactly - no typo. The unemployment benefit amount is a little lower if for example you go straight from completing an education to being out of work, but additional benefits are also available fx. to single parents and those that pay a high monthly rent.
Downside is taxes here are high as well are the price of food, housing and pretty much everything else. The high taxes means a safety net that is there for every person here and all round great public service like free education, free health care and so on.
Essentially apart from the weather living here is pretty unbeatable. A working week is 34½-37 hours, most people get 6 weeks payed vacation, bank holidays are payed and while it is expensive here even a McJob will earn you $3K+. Hmm, maybe I should stay (Nope - just kidding).
Malta as suggest by some seems to fit a lot of my "demands". For starters the weather is pretty much perfect, maltaweather.com/information/maltas-climate/, and it's part of the EU which makes things easy. On the downside it is somewhat crowded and perhaps simply to small a place. Oh, there is much to consider :-)
I wonder does anyone else here have experience in moving in order to find the perfect spot on Earth?
NZ is definitely not too hot (though apparently this summer was bleh compared to usual)
I highly recommend doing the move (not necessarily to NZ) since it's a pretty nice experience.
Edit: Good luck though.
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edit: Denmark is pretty exotic here in Australia so you'll be a hit with the ladies :rotate:
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