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Cyberpunk 2077 - It Can't Get Darker Than Night City, Right?

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  • DecomposeyDecomposey Registered User regular
    Silver has anti-microbial properties. It basically is toxic to bacteria. Many ancient people didn't understand bacteria, but they understood that that gross stuff didn't grow on silver and if you put silver against your wound them bad rot spirits stayed away.

    Silver must be holy or something! And if its holy magic, it can probably kill that monster better than iron can.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    m!ttens wrote: »
    That's because you need the steel sword to kill monsters.
    Man is the real monster.

    Besides the Rule of Cool™, I think it's because it's probably harder to keep a silver sword honed since it's a pretty soft metal.

    re: spoiler tag, That's one of my favorite small dialog exchanges in the Witcher series.

    "Oy, a Witcher eh, I hear you carry two swords, one for people and one for monsters."
    "They're both for monsters"

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    The ending to witcher 1 was amazing for that very reason.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    m!ttens wrote: »
    That's because you need the steel sword to kill monsters.
    Man is the real monster.

    Besides the Rule of Cool™, I think it's because it's probably harder to keep a silver sword honed since it's a pretty soft metal.

    re: spoiler tag, That's one of my favorite small dialog exchanges in the Witcher series.

    "Oy, a Witcher eh, I hear you carry two swords, one for people and one for monsters."
    "They're both for monsters"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0i88t0Kacs

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  • VikingViking Registered User regular
    Decomposey wrote: »
    Silver has anti-microbial properties. It basically is toxic to bacteria. Many ancient people didn't understand bacteria, but they understood that that gross stuff didn't grow on silver and if you put silver against your wound them bad rot spirits stayed away.

    Silver must be holy or something! And if its holy magic, it can probably kill that monster better than iron can.
    Silver also reacts very obviously to Sulphur (sulphur being associated with evil)

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    The best part is Lambert and Ezkel throw such shade over Geralt for sounding like Mr. Action Hero Movie man when they hear that story.

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Decomposey wrote: »
    Silver has anti-microbial properties. It basically is toxic to bacteria. Many ancient people didn't understand bacteria, but they understood that that gross stuff didn't grow on silver and if you put silver against your wound them bad rot spirits stayed away.

    Silver must be holy or something! And if its holy magic, it can probably kill that monster better than iron can.

    Silver is also used to make mirrors, which is why vampires aren't reflected.

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    A duck! wrote: »
    Decomposey wrote: »
    Silver has anti-microbial properties. It basically is toxic to bacteria. Many ancient people didn't understand bacteria, but they understood that that gross stuff didn't grow on silver and if you put silver against your wound them bad rot spirits stayed away.

    Silver must be holy or something! And if its holy magic, it can probably kill that monster better than iron can.

    Silver is also used to make mirrors, which is why vampires aren't reflected.

    A lovely scene in one of my favourite books (The Vampire Genevieve omnibus by Jack Yeovil, specifically in one of the short stories in Silver Nails) has the titular Genevieve about to go "undercover", and she's sitting in front of a mirror as she has make-up applied so her lack of reflection won't give her away; and she slowly watches her face come into view, piece by piece, a face she hasn't seen in over six hundred years.

    I might be due a re-read of that soon. :)

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Monsters don't have armor, or really if they did their vulnerability/allergy makes it better than steel.

    Steel is better for fighting other humans due the weapons being used. When was the last time you heard of a medieval knight with a silver weapon?

    I dunno, some monsters like dragons and stuff have really tough armor.

    I suspect the author did that because it sounded cool.

    If you see how Geralt fights a dragon in Witcher 2, he doesn't even use his silver sword for the "real" fight. He uses his steel sword to anchor himself, holds on for dear life, and then uses his hunting hook to crash it into a tree which skewers it.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    https://www.playstationenthusiast.com/2019/06/15/night-city-in-cyberpunk-2077-pacifica-the-haitian-population-and-akira-bikes/

    An article that discusses the Haitian population that puts a few more worries to rest.

    There's an entire Haitian section of the city. The various areas all have local gangs. The Voodoo Boys are the gang from the Haitian area. But the rest of the area is filled with Haitians that are not a part of the gang.

  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    https://www.vg247.com/2019/06/17/cyberpunk-2077-badlands-nomads/

    Another one about the area outside the city.

    One very interesting note in there mentions that your background choice may actually change where you start the game.

    Not sure if we heard anything about that before.

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  • QuiotuQuiotu Registered User regular
    https://www.vg247.com/2019/06/17/cyberpunk-2077-badlands-nomads/

    Another one about the area outside the city.

    One very interesting note in there mentions that your background choice may actually change where you start the game.

    Not sure if we heard anything about that before.

    I was kind of hoping we'd see more rural sides of the game, and they did briefly show what looked to be more small town areas. The bar they showed in the very first trailer where people were playing billiards seemed remarkably cowboy, so I assume that's around some suburb or fringe of Night City.

    And I'd assume the childhood hero would change something in the game, but it looks to be different than I expected. I assumed it would be the person you meet when things go to shit, but... with Keanu being Silverhand, would they set it up so that he's not the only person you could see? If he's a manifestation of your childhood hero, is it possible that Keanu plays all three... and Silverhand, Blackhand, and Arasaka are just covers to make the ghost in your machine more personal and make you more willing to do what it wants?

    It does make more sense for the setting to be different depending on your background, though I believe the entire tutorial will be based on your background choices possibly. So where you start, how people react to you, your equipment, and your contacts might all be different. I like the idea as it would make the beginning vividly different depending on your backgrounds, and then after everything hits the fan, the world opens up and you're free to do whatever you want.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Nomads are a way for the RP setting to smash Road Warrior punk asthetics into a techno future in a clever fashion. For those that don't know, the USA underwent a full collapse after U.S. Intelligence services went rogue, picked a fight with rising super star Europe, and got trounced both in war that followed, and a minor civil war against the military. The end result is that 25% of Americans ended up homeless, including the environmental ruination of much of middle America.

    The scene from the story trailer which shows essentially a cyber cowboy bar likely has strong influences from the Nomad faction.

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    *sighs*

    Man, the default white guy V they've been showing in the most recent trailers happens to look almost exactly like one of my asshole cousins. Every time I'm like "oh it's THAT asshole."

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Fashion Modeling and Professional Wrestling have fused, it can't be the *worst* timeline.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    Really nice world building. You instantly see lines of conflict between those styles, their reasons and results, and those are just very broad strokes without the finer detail of even the fuzzy fringes where it mixes and overlaps

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    I want to make a cyberninja neomilitant type and a trashy ass entropic dumpster person.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    Kitsch. . . it. . . it calls to me.

    A Capellan's favorite sheath for any blade is your back.
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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    I wonder how chaotic you can go.
    can you really burn the city? Like, total chaos, no one winning, just pure nihilist accelerationism?

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  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    I'm just wondering how the two in the Kitsch picture managed to get their jackets on over those spiked arms without ripping the sleeves to shreds.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    Darklyre wrote: »
    I'm just wondering how the two in the Kitsch picture managed to get their jackets on over those spiked arms without ripping the sleeves to shreds.

    Either they're retractable, or really, really impractical. The latter would totally fit the style of form over function

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    I assume the spikey gauntlet gloves go on over the jacket sleeve.

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  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    I wonder how chaotic you can go.
    can you really burn the city? Like, total chaos, no one winning, just pure nihilist accelerationism?

    At the very least a well thought out neutral route like FNV would be greatly appreciated.

  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    I enjoy that her jacket straps say 'get rich or die trying' on the Kitsch image

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    I wonder how chaotic you can go.
    can you really burn the city? Like, total chaos, no one winning, just pure nihilist accelerationism?

    At the very least a well thought out neutral route like FNV would be greatly appreciated.

    Witcher had like 36 endings if you count all the flavors, and some were really vastly different. They are probably gonna end up with way more even if they try to not overdo it, just by having different starting points...

    And anyways.. What's a neutral ending? Nothing changing isn't neutral, it's a good ending for those who gain from the status quo. But changing that makes it not neutral, too..

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    Based on what we know? V becomes immortal, settles personal issues in Night City, life goes on. Forget it V, it's Cybertown.

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    Immortality in cyberpunk terms has gotta mean uploaded to something, right? I mean, that's what I'm expecting.

    Also how immortality is usually portrayed as a curse... I wonder which way they'll go with it.

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    I wonder how chaotic you can go.
    can you really burn the city? Like, total chaos, no one winning, just pure nihilist accelerationism?

    At the very least a well thought out neutral route like FNV would be greatly appreciated.

    Witcher had like 36 endings if you count all the flavors, and some were really vastly different. They are probably gonna end up with way more even if they try to not overdo it, just by having different starting points...

    And anyways.. What's a neutral ending? Nothing changing isn't neutral, it's a good ending for those who gain from the status quo. But changing that makes it not neutral, too..

    I used neutral but honestly I guess it doesn’t really apply . In FNV the example I used if you didn’t like any of the ingame factions you could tell them to go fuck themselves and do things for yourself . In VTM bloodlines I believe there was a similar choice at the end iirc. I just dislike getting to the end of a game and being forced to side with x because you have to pick one of them. It’s not deal breaking still going to get the game just a personal quirk.

  • PapaganderPapagander Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    Haha, reminds me of the political factions in Skyrim. To me, that was the least interesting portion of that game and I only ever eventually choose a side to get the achievements.

    Edit: I should also say, because it was also one more excuse to keep playing Skyrim. Even now, it calls to me....

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    At least in Oblivion there was a very definite right answer.
    Hail Sithis.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    Immortality in cyberpunk terms has gotta mean uploaded to something, right? I mean, that's what I'm expecting.

    Also how immortality is usually portrayed as a curse... I wonder which way they'll go with it.

    Since it probably means being free in the net, a boundless source of information and entertainment, I'm sure for hacker types it'd be a paradise. I am curious as to how this is a "true" immortality chip however, since aside from ghost Johnny, we've already been told in the press releases your first big quest is trying to find Alt Cunningham (another net ghost).

  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    At least in Oblivion there was a very definite right answer.
    Hail Sithis.

    slightly OT, but
    I'm doing my very first Oblivion playthrough right now, and I'm going through the Knights of the Nine plugin feeling VERY awkward...

    ... until one of the Knights is like "yeah you gotta send Umaril into the Void"

    and then my Speaker leans forward on her chair like "Did you say I gotta send somebody to the void?"

    (I also plan on doing Shivering Isles, and tbh going straight from HAIL SITHIS to BY THE NINE makes a lot more sense if you're gonna become Sheogorath)

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    m!ttens wrote: »
    That's because you need the steel sword to kill monsters.
    Man is the real monster.

    Besides the Rule of Cool™, I think it's because it's probably harder to keep a silver sword honed since it's a pretty soft metal.

    re: spoiler tag, That's one of my favorite small dialog exchanges in the Witcher series.

    "Oy, a Witcher eh, I hear you carry two swords, one for people and one for monsters."
    "They're both for monsters"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0i88t0Kacs

    You fucking made me reinstall WItcher 3.

    I hope you're happy.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/17/cyberpunk-2077-preview-and-interview-i-just-love-my-work-9973737/

    Huge interview with a ton of interesting details. Just one:
    GC: How much do you deal with sexuality in 2077? As a European developer you’re likely to be a lot less puritanical about such things than an American company. They were implying last year that there is a lot of nudity in the game…

    PS: [laughs] Yes, a lot. But this is a game for mature players and the maturity is there in all kinds of ways, from the philosophical background of the game to the topics of the game, and also the sexuality is there as well. As a player you can pick the different body types for yourself, you can pick the different voice that you have. So you can… say you have a female voice but match it with a male body. And then you define how other characters perceive you. So basically, how they address you.

    GC: Do you mean pronouns?

    PS: It’s not exactly that but it gives you that effect. So you’re basically deciding how you define yourself. And in the game the romance and sexuality, it’s really present. Because we are sexual beings, that’s obvious.

    GC: It’s not obvious in games. There’s almost no sexuality in games.

    PS: We are CD Projekt, so it’s obvious to us. [laughs] Sexuality was very present in The Witcher games and I think here it’s even more present, but I think here we are a bit more mature because we are allowing the player to craft their own character a bit more. And also, in the customisation screen, if you want to have stronger female features on your male character you can do it. If you want to have male features on a female character you can do it. If you want to be a character that is less easy to define you can also do it. So it’s really up to the player as to what they want to do.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Dang that honestly sounds so good.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I really want that to be enough but I'm still worried that they're just quickly backpedaling and hoping that "has a character creator without a binary gender choice" is good enough so they can get back to showing off armblade ninja ultraviolence

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    I really want that to be enough but I'm still worried that they're just quickly backpedaling and hoping that "has a character creator without a binary gender choice" is good enough so they can get back to showing off armblade ninja ultraviolence

    The algorithms required to do on-the-fly 3d modeling aren't really something you quickly backpedal to.

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  • NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    I am slowly getting back to being hyped.
    Still not pre ordering though.
    But i am getting hyped.

  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    I really want that to be enough but I'm still worried that they're just quickly backpedaling and hoping that "has a character creator without a binary gender choice" is good enough so they can get back to showing off armblade ninja ultraviolence

    The algorithms required to do on-the-fly 3d modeling aren't really something you quickly backpedal to.

    None of that was described in the interview.

    Just that you can pick how you look and it's independent to your character's gender.

    I don't really think it's a back pedal though. It's increasingly common for how games set up character creation these days and their issue has never being not featuring trans/nb people but how they consistently seem very into the fetishization of bodies with the fall back of just 'well it's cyberpunk so that's our whole ass excuse'.

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