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Adults don't really play these things, right?
She later admitted she had not played it and in fact knew essentially nothing about it
After actually watching someone play for like 2 hours she recanted and went "yeah, sorry, it's fine"
I've only ever been able to watch like 5 second chunks of that Fox News piece
I just hit the part where the lady straight-up says that boys can't tell the difference between video games and reality and I just
I'm staggered that there are people who make such statements and expect to be taken seriously
is that true that at the start of the trilogy, humans have only been in space for 20 years??
I mean i knew it was a short period of time but that seems ridiculous
It's simultaneously really interesting and really stupid
Really interesting from a narrative point of view and the perspective that being so new would grant the audience
And really stupid because they never, ever, ever doing anything with it ever
By the time of ME1, hell, by the time of the goddamn prequel novel, everyone is completely used to aliens and technology and the galaxy and everything else
So there is literally no point to having first contact be so recent
It IS ridiculous. Hence some races are suspicious or resentful. If we had numbers we'd be a dominant force in the galaxy without Sheperd.
Apparently our means of warfare is very multi-disciplined and cohesive, including drones, armor, artillery, etc. Other races are kind of one-trick ponies (simplification, but still). Salarians and Asari deal with a lot of special ops, while Turians have some fairly static doctrine, although all are still very competent. Have you ever faced an Asari commando unit before?
Also I love the bit how humanity isn't allowed more dreadnoughts, so they built super-carriers the size of dreadnoughts, that, conveniently, could quickly mount a dreadnought's main gun if it was needed.
Humans basically pioneered the idea of carrier ships at all, in that other races did all their fighting with capital ships
They weren't equipped to deal with fighters carrying bomb-style payloads
That's why the only fighter pilots you see throughout the series are human, plus one Turian force and one vorcha unit, because turians knew a good idea when they saw it and vorcha can be trained for it really quickly
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We've only had twenty years since First Contact, yeah, as of ME1.
But we had a while before that of us having access to one of the most complete caches of Prothean technological data in the galaxy, and when we went out into the stars we were already bristling with guns because there might be some kinda robot Cthulhu out there or something.
It's still a really rapid thing, but it's not completely unbelievable. The only conceit it really requires is that we're able to understand the Prothean data and then replicate some basic manufacturing techniques.
I always mentally tack on another hundred years to the ME chronology
It doesn't really change anything since the only time anyone really mentions how recent first contact was is Doctor Bryson's one line about how it was within his own lifetime
By the time of ME1, hell, by the time of the goddamn prequel novel, everyone is completely used to aliens and technology and the galaxy and everything else
we also only ever see the people who are generally willing to go into space. i'm sure there's a whole bunch of people on earth who don't even believe the world is round still.
Yeah the ME chronology is super silly and poorly thought out in a ton of ways, and I generally try to just ignore it.
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The vast majority of humanity still lives in the Sol system, but since you're traipsing around the galaxy all the time it's not really ever brought up.
We're still a really backwater little species in context of the rest of the galaxy.
Anoleis really drives this point home on Noveria if you're Earthborn, but it makes sense that it's not constantly brought up throughout the series because Shepard is literally on the leading edge of humanity's push into the stars
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The Mass Effect chronology thing that gets me is the prequel with the Illusive Man, Evolution. Humanity has first contact with the Turians. They go to war. Humanity is still in that brief war as the story opens, so humanity has been aware of the rest of the galaxy for literally a month, and it had been a pretty hostile month. And as soon as the war is over, the Illusive Man takes off to Illian, because hey, Illian. And they have no problems getting there, no serious "OMG IT'S A HUMAN!" moments, nothing. It was stupid to the point that it hurt my head.
For the rest of it, humanity discovered the cache on Mars and first used a Mass Relay in 2149, and the First Contact War was in 2157. At the time of the first contact war, they were already building up a fleet, because they had no idea what was out there. Mass Effect occurs in 2183, 26 years after the First Contact War. Given that aside from the use of the Mass Relays, most of the technology that humans used was just an improvement over existing technologies, I think that the technological improvement arc is fine.
I don't have a problem with social/technical advances being rapid. In real world history, we went 63 years between the development of jacketed ammunition and the detonation of the first atomic bomb. We went 66 years from the time of the first powered flight to landing a man on the moon. In 1900, automobiles were rare on the streets of most major cities; by 1930, they had for the most part replaced horses. With regards to social advances, you just need to look at the progress of the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s or gay rights over the last decade - things can move very fast under the right circumstances.
But as much as I don't have a problem with the rapid turnaround between 2151 and 2183, I do think that the background material and the games missed out hugely in that they didn't talk about how disruptive the first few years would have been. Cerberus and its reason for being is one of the few real nods given to that disruption. And while humans can adapt fairly quickly (it's our racial hat after all), other races should still be much more leery of humans. In my opinion, humans really should be looked at like Orcs in the Mass Effect galaxy. They're powerful, you can't really trust them, they're growing way too fast in power, they're aggressive, and they resist conforming to galactic standards. There's some of that in Mass Effect, and then it's pretty much gone after that. In the novels, it's effectively non-existent.
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Adults don't really play these things, right?
She later admitted she had not played it and in fact knew essentially nothing about it
After actually watching someone play for like 2 hours she recanted and went "yeah, sorry, it's fine"
I just hit the part where the lady straight-up says that boys can't tell the difference between video games and reality and I just
I'm staggered that there are people who make such statements and expect to be taken seriously
is he in any way making salient points against what they're saying
It's not like that would be hard to do
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is that true that at the start of the trilogy, humans have only been in space for 20 years??
I mean i knew it was a short period of time but that seems ridiculous
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It's simultaneously really interesting and really stupid
Really interesting from a narrative point of view and the perspective that being so new would grant the audience
And really stupid because they never, ever, ever doing anything with it ever
By the time of ME1, hell, by the time of the goddamn prequel novel, everyone is completely used to aliens and technology and the galaxy and everything else
So there is literally no point to having first contact be so recent
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Apparently our means of warfare is very multi-disciplined and cohesive, including drones, armor, artillery, etc. Other races are kind of one-trick ponies (simplification, but still). Salarians and Asari deal with a lot of special ops, while Turians have some fairly static doctrine, although all are still very competent. Have you ever faced an Asari commando unit before?
Also I love the bit how humanity isn't allowed more dreadnoughts, so they built super-carriers the size of dreadnoughts, that, conveniently, could quickly mount a dreadnought's main gun if it was needed.
They weren't equipped to deal with fighters carrying bomb-style payloads
That's why the only fighter pilots you see throughout the series are human, plus one Turian force and one vorcha unit, because turians knew a good idea when they saw it and vorcha can be trained for it really quickly
they did that within a span of twenty years?
But we had a while before that of us having access to one of the most complete caches of Prothean technological data in the galaxy, and when we went out into the stars we were already bristling with guns because there might be some kinda robot Cthulhu out there or something.
It's still a really rapid thing, but it's not completely unbelievable. The only conceit it really requires is that we're able to understand the Prothean data and then replicate some basic manufacturing techniques.
It doesn't really change anything since the only time anyone really mentions how recent first contact was is Doctor Bryson's one line about how it was within his own lifetime
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Anoleis really drives this point home on Noveria if you're Earthborn, but it makes sense that it's not constantly brought up throughout the series because Shepard is literally on the leading edge of humanity's push into the stars
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ultimate mass effect
do it dragon age origins style where you play through your story first
make it about your early military days
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For the rest of it, humanity discovered the cache on Mars and first used a Mass Relay in 2149, and the First Contact War was in 2157. At the time of the first contact war, they were already building up a fleet, because they had no idea what was out there. Mass Effect occurs in 2183, 26 years after the First Contact War. Given that aside from the use of the Mass Relays, most of the technology that humans used was just an improvement over existing technologies, I think that the technological improvement arc is fine.
I don't have a problem with social/technical advances being rapid. In real world history, we went 63 years between the development of jacketed ammunition and the detonation of the first atomic bomb. We went 66 years from the time of the first powered flight to landing a man on the moon. In 1900, automobiles were rare on the streets of most major cities; by 1930, they had for the most part replaced horses. With regards to social advances, you just need to look at the progress of the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s or gay rights over the last decade - things can move very fast under the right circumstances.
But as much as I don't have a problem with the rapid turnaround between 2151 and 2183, I do think that the background material and the games missed out hugely in that they didn't talk about how disruptive the first few years would have been. Cerberus and its reason for being is one of the few real nods given to that disruption. And while humans can adapt fairly quickly (it's our racial hat after all), other races should still be much more leery of humans. In my opinion, humans really should be looked at like Orcs in the Mass Effect galaxy. They're powerful, you can't really trust them, they're growing way too fast in power, they're aggressive, and they resist conforming to galactic standards. There's some of that in Mass Effect, and then it's pretty much gone after that. In the novels, it's effectively non-existent.