Planescape: Torment is a pretty fun game

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I am playing it now. What do you want, some crazy fucking OP? Go and play it, it's really good. You don't need screenshots. Jesus, get over yourself.

The only problem I have is that I installed the widescreen mod thing and my native resolution is 1980 by 1020 and this for some reason causes the game to display in a smaller window inside a black box. Anyone have a good suggested resolution?

HERE ARE THE MODS

http://thunderpeel2001.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/planescape-torment-fully-modded.html

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fine, here's a fucking screenshot

Astale

The boxart really does not do the game justice.

I never understood why they did that. "Just put someone in cosplay of the main character, and do a close-up."

SoundsPlush

That's actually a producer on the game or something who was used when a male model had a scheduling conflict.

"Blue craggy-faced dude with dreads looking suspiciously off to the side" is certainly, uh, memorable.

gtrmp

Astale wrote: »

The boxart really does not do the game justice.

I never understood why they did that. "Just put someone in cosplay of the main character, and do a close-up."

The magazine advertisements were even worse. Who thought that having a protagonist who was “a corpse with irresistible sexual charisma” was a selling point?

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It turns out that the widescreen mod is ideal for people who play their videogames while wearing opera glasses

Darmak

This game really is great, I need to finish it. I wonder if my save is still on my old computer...

TychoCelchuuu

Tube wrote: »

It turns out that the widescreen mod is ideal for people who play their videogames while wearing opera glasses

"Tube discovers/rediscovers a game and makes a thread about it" threads are the best threads because we get to experience these kinds of things in real time. I don't know if you can change it after the fact but the Ghostdog UI mod lets you make the text size bigger.

I needed anime to post.

Planescape Torment is my favourite game that I've never beaten, because eventually I just get tired of the few situations where combat arises. I should really just go play it on easy some time.

Wassermelone

I've never beaten it either. I got to the end of the game and the game crashed. I loaded my game, and the game crashed. I loaded my game. Crashed. Somehow that area had gotten corrupted in my save file (and I hadn't saved a recent backup file).

DoctorArch

To date this and Silent Hill 2 are the only videogames that I have ever related the story of to another person ever.

I haven't played this game since I first played it in 2000 and it is still one of my top games ever.

I really need to play it again, I just don't have the time that I did as a twenty-year-old college student.

Elimination

Tube wrote: »

It turns out that the widescreen mod is ideal for people who play their videogames while wearing opera glasses

I had the same issues as you. I could never get the widescreen mod to play nice as higher resolutions, i ended up having all kinds of problems like text being unreadably small among other things.

Foefaller

...

Reinstalling...

Gaddez

This is probably one of the greatest games ever made, and I point to it whenever people complain that writing in video games is shoddy these days.

Frem

Planescape Torment is fantastic. I got to the underground bit and stopped playing for some reason. Combat is terrible, but the story, dialog, environment, and ambient sound is great.

I love the announcer outside the bar.

"Step right up, folks! C'mon in. There's a burning guy in here. He's ON FIRE."
Or something like that.

Elimination wrote: »

Tube wrote: »

It turns out that the widescreen mod is ideal for people who play their videogames while wearing opera glasses

I had the same issues as you. I could never get the widescreen mod to play nice as higher resolutions, i ended up having all kinds of problems like text being unreadably small among other things.

I'm surprised that Ghostdog's mod didn't fix that for you. I've only played at 1280x800 with 80% increase though; maybe even the 120% increase doesn't help at higher resolutions or something. Picking up loot is also bit of a pain. The UI is almost unusably tiny, but most things have keyboard shortcuts, so it could be worse.

SoundsPlush

I have yet to finish this game. I started it awhile ago, having picked it up on Amazon shortly before it arrived on GOG, I think, and got to at least the underground section. Through it, I think. Everything is so painfully archaic, I just wish there was a 'skip combat' mod.

I'll have to pick it up sometime soon. I had read a big spoiler on one of these threads about it, but enough time has lapsed that I've forgotten it, so I guess the time is ripe.

For the curious, the spoiler was

I forgot so I can't tell you, but if you clicked on this and haven't beat the game you probably shouldn't be hanging out in a thread like this!

Jam Warrior

Planescape was a hell of a story but I'm afraid I felt the combat made it a pretty bad 'game'. Even on easy it was such a slog in combat heavy places. A slog totally worth going through for the payoff but a slog nonetheless.

Sorry to hear about your screen size issues. I followed the guide linked in the OP and I got it running just fine.

Not to be patronising, but you did the bit where you have to manually enter the resolution you want, right? And followed it up with the UI mod? I got no idea what's up otherwise.

C2B

Jam Warrior wrote: »

Planescape was a hell of a story but I'm afraid I felt the combat made it a pretty bad 'game'.

I hear this argument often, but I don't think it's really accurate for Planescape considering all the ways it lets you avoid combat. (Aside from a few annoying sections) Which is gameplay in itself. Dialouge and Story can be a mechanic.

Imagine Planescape were a dungeon crawler like IWD (same main path/story still). A lot of the people who like it here would hate it.

Egos

I started playing this when I was way too young to appreciate it and I ended putting it down

around the area where you can join the Dustmen...which I think is any time. so hardly being specific

What I played was interesting, but I couldn't quite appreciate it as a 14-15 year old or I just got stuck/frustrated (I forgot what it was) . I really should find my 5 orange discs with the various character's faces on them and reinstall it.

Jam Warrior

Just drop the combat all together. Make it a pure point and clicker and I'd be ecstatic.

YerMum

Yeah this is pretty much the best game ever, in spite of the D&D mechanics doing their best to get in the way. The story, characters and setting all combine to form this awesome epic whole.

Everyone has to play it, please!

Kias

Was actually just reading the novelized version of the game (fanmade that pulls dialogue straight from the game) at work the other day. It's not great, and it just makes me want to play again, but there are some lines that are great to see without having to actually work for them.

Morte is the best.

Moridin889

Or that bit where you talked a man out of existence. Single coolest video game moment ever.

TeeMan

Some of the best narrative parts I reckon where you were digging around inside yourself for items, or getting flayed/burned alive, or killing yourself and resurrecting to the great astonishment of nay-sayers. They really got some good, unique use out of the immortality concept.

Corehealer

TychoCelchuuu wrote: »

Tube wrote: »

It turns out that the widescreen mod is ideal for people who play their videogames while wearing opera glasses

"Tube discovers/rediscovers a game and makes a thread about it" threads are the best threads because we get to experience these kinds of things in real time. I don't know if you can change it after the fact but the Ghostdog UI mod lets you make the text size bigger.

A "Tube discovers/rediscovers a game and makes a livestream about it for our amusement" would be better. It'd be like a whole slideshow of screenshots in unison, but with more swearing.

Raiden333

Game has some of the best written text in the history of language, IMO. Maybe not in terms of poetic prose, but in terms of evoking emotion.

There is a cold silence in his mind, then a hissing of a thought, a response sharp and deadly, like a dagger blade. The lie comes swiftly, unburdened by emotion.

Echo: "I love you, Deionarra."

And you want to SCREAM as you feel the lie wash over her like a RADIANCE, but it is a SHADOW of TRUTH, A SERPENT'S KISS, AND HE MEANS YOU HARM AND SHE CAN'T *SEE* YOU WANT TO CALL OUT BUT SHE IS CRYING WITH JOY EVEN AS - EVEN AS -

also I still get chills every time I encounter the phrase "what can change the nature of a man". Every time.

KingofMadCows

The Transcendent One had so many awesome lines, I really wish they could have gotten Tony Jay to read them all.

And I do so love the ending. It is kind of contradictory to the theme of the game and quite meta when you think about it.

Fiaryn

KingofMadCows wrote: »

The Transcendent One had so many awesome lines, I really wish they could have gotten Tony Jay to read them all.

And I do so love the ending. It is kind of contradictory to the theme of the game and quite meta when you think about it.

How is it contradictory?

TeeMan

Raiden333 wrote: »

Game has some of the best written text in the history of language, IMO. Maybe not in terms of poetric prose, but in terms of evoking emotion.

There is a cold silence in his mind, then a hissing of a thought, a response sharp and deadly, like a dagger blade. The lie comes swiftly, unburdened by emotion.

Echo: "I love you, Deionarra."

And you want to SCREAM as you feel the lie wash over her like a RADIANCE, but it is a SHADOW of TRUTH, A SERPENT'S KISS, AND HE MEANS YOU HARM AND SHE CAN'T *SEE* YOU WANT TO CALL OUT BUT SHE IS CRYING WITH JOY EVEN AS - EVEN AS -

also I still get chills every time I encounter the phrase "what can change the nature of a man". Every time.

That whole part of that dialogue is just breathtaking. It makes

conversing with Deionarra at the end and begging for her forgiveness, and then receiving it, such a tear-jerker *sniff*

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My three biggest problems with Planescape Torment are
1. They may as well have not even given you a choice of class. Making a game where anyone who doesn't stack willpower and int is going to have a shittier time is stupid. Also for a game that pushes you to be a mage, they didn't spend a lot of time making sure the magic was fun
2. The grimoire of pestilential thought is a great idea wasted. There's a magic book that requires sacrifices to give you amazing spells! Are the spells good? No!
3. Most of the dialogue doesn't really make sense if you're playing as an unrepentant bastard.

Mild Confusion

I never got around to playing this game, but I did read an LP of it. I really did enjoy it.

Raiden333

Also, out of curiosity, has anyone ever been able to go through with a full on pure evil playthrough? This game has the darkest, most evil Bad Options of any RPG I've seen. I tried once and I just couldn't take it.

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I disagree with you on that to be honest. Outside of the grimoire I can't think of anything particularly despicable other than just being mean to party members. I played it through chaotic evil a few years back.

Raiden333

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I disagree with you on that to be honest. Outside of the grimoire I can't think of anything particularly despicable other than just being mean to party members. I played it through chaotic evil a few years back.

Personally, I don't consider

realizing what you did to Dak'Kon and relishing in it and exploiting it rather than going "oh shit I'm terrible" and trying to make amends with him

as "being mean to a party member"

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Eh. That was pretty much exactly what I meant by "being mean to party members". It's more of a perspective on something that had already happened. The game says "you did this once, do you feel bad about it y/n". I think the plot has a lot of great stuff about it, but evil choices aren't one of them. Selling Dakkon to slavers is incredibly nasty, but then the reward is so rubbish I don't know why you'd bother.

Raiden333

Ok yeah, I see your point there. I just can't imagine being able to live with the stuff TNO's past incarnations have done, let alone have him laugh about it and continue. Maybe it's just a reflection of myself, but to me PS:T has always been a story about redemption. I've played it 3 times (only counting times I've finished the playthrough) and I'm never able to slip away from the whole 'trying to be a better person' thing.

KingofMadCows

Fiaryn wrote: »

KingofMadCows wrote: »

The Transcendent One had so many awesome lines, I really wish they could have gotten Tony Jay to read them all.

And I do so love the ending. It is kind of contradictory to the theme of the game and quite meta when you think about it.

How is it contradictory?

The main theme of the game is the power of belief. Belief can redeem people, it can damn people, it can unmake people, it can make people out of thin air, it can shape and bind the planes, it can even create new planes of existence. Anything can be done if you believe it can be done. So why couldn't belief change the Nameless One's fate? Why couldn't it change his punishment? The whole reason why he sought out immortality in the first place was because he believed that he could escape his fate of having to fight the Blood War for all eternity.

Captain Carrot

KingofMadCows wrote: »

Fiaryn wrote: »

KingofMadCows wrote: »

The Transcendent One had so many awesome lines, I really wish they could have gotten Tony Jay to read them all.

And I do so love the ending. It is kind of contradictory to the theme of the game and quite meta when you think about it.

How is it contradictory?

The main theme of the game is the power of belief. Belief can redeem people, it can damn people, it can unmake people, it can make people out of thin air, it can shape and bind the planes, it can even create new planes of existence. Anything can be done if you believe it can be done. So why couldn't belief change the Nameless One's fate? Why couldn't it change his punishment? The whole reason why he sought out immortality in the first place was because he believed that he could escape his fate of having to fight the Blood War for all eternity.

It's been a while since I played the game, but I think it's because

only the worst TNO could believe, at the end of the game, that he deserved to avoid his fate, and they just didn't include that option.

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Even when he sought out immortality, he didn't necessarily believe that he could be redeemed.

Fiaryn

KingofMadCows wrote: »

Fiaryn wrote: »

KingofMadCows wrote: »

The Transcendent One had so many awesome lines, I really wish they could have gotten Tony Jay to read them all.

And I do so love the ending. It is kind of contradictory to the theme of the game and quite meta when you think about it.

How is it contradictory?

The main theme of the game is the power of belief. Belief can redeem people, it can damn people, it can unmake people, it can make people out of thin air, it can shape and bind the planes, it can even create new planes of existence. Anything can be done if you believe it can be done. So why couldn't belief change the Nameless One's fate? Why couldn't it change his punishment? The whole reason why he sought out immortality in the first place was because he believed that he could escape his fate of having to fight the Blood War for all eternity.

Belief is powerful

But you overestimate it. What can change the nature of a man? The answer is different for everyone, but at the end of the day The Nameless One's fate is completely unavoidable. What can be changed is how he faces it. It still means something to face damnation with dignity, having done what you can to atone, rather than to go screaming and justifying it every step of the way.

azith28

gtrmp wrote: »

Astale wrote: »

The boxart really does not do the game justice.

I never understood why they did that. "Just put someone in cosplay of the main character, and do a close-up."

The magazine advertisements were even worse. Who thought that having a protagonist who was “a corpse with irresistible sexual charisma” was a selling point?

I'm guessing the Hot tifling model didnt show up to the photo shoot and they were like 'Crap, well what do we do now'?