[Nintendo 3DS] THREAD OVER. POST IN NEW THREAD.

Drascin

skeldare wrote: »

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/182672/Miyamoto_wonders_Is_story_really_necessary_when_gameplay_will_do.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+GamasutraNews+(Gamasutra+News)#.ULkH_aXaYcg

"It's fine without a story, so do we really need one?"
- Kensuke Tanabe, software planning and development department for Paper Mario: Sticker Star on the Nintendo 3DS, recalls how veteran Nintendo designer Shigeru Miyamoto asked for story elements to be left out of the game.

In a new Iwata Asks interview on the Nintendo website, president Satoru Iwata discussed the development of the latest in the Paper Mario series with the team behind it, who in turn revealed why the game was so light on story compared to previous installments.

As it turns out, Miyamoto -- who had a hand in the game's design -- instructed the team to lay off the story elements, as he believed that the gameplay elements were what players really wanted.

"With regard to the story, we did a survey over the Super Paper Mario game in Club Nintendo, and not even 1 percent said the story was interesting," noted Tanabe. "A lot of people said that the 'Flip' move for switching between the 3D and 2D dimensions was fun."

Taro Kudo, the co-director of scenario design on the game, added, "I originally saw it in a way that's similar to Miyamoto-san. Personally I think all we need is to have an objective to win the boss battle at the end of the game."

He continued, "I didn't think we necessarily needed a lengthy story like in an RPG. Instead, we looked at the characteristics of a portable game that can be played little by little in small pieces and packed in lots of little episodes and ideas. I always did like putting in little ideas, so I actually enjoyed it."

Miyamoto, dude, the hilarious dialogue and funnidiculous stories are the reason people come to the Mario RPGs! Bowser's Inside Story wasn't great because it was groundbreaking gameplay-wise - it was great because it was hilarious and awesome at the same time!

Anyway, I actually had come here to ask - Christmas is coming, and with it christmas gift lists. I've been kind of out of the loop about game releases, though. What good stuff has come out in 3DS for us Europeasants in the last couple months?

maximumzero

timspork's ghost wrote: »

So I tried. I left early to stop at Best Buy before work today to pick up the 3DS XL bundle with the $20 gift card. Get to Best Buy ready to spend the money. Store has been open for over an hour. Empty space where it should be but there is a tag. I ask a guy, he says they are probably in the back but they can't unbox them until their manager comes in. The website said they were available.

Maybe this is why Best Buy is going under. I want to give you money for the thing, go get the thing or make your website not say you have it!

That's odd, the cage in gaming was full of the Blue XL bundles on Friday, though I'm sure if you tried to buy one it would have rejected the sale. (Unless it wasn't a hard release date.)

Librarian's ghost

maximumzero wrote: »

timspork's ghost wrote: »

So I tried. I left early to stop at Best Buy before work today to pick up the 3DS XL bundle with the $20 gift card. Get to Best Buy ready to spend the money. Store has been open for over an hour. Empty space where it should be but there is a tag. I ask a guy, he says they are probably in the back but they can't unbox them until their manager comes in. The website said they were available.

Maybe this is why Best Buy is going under. I want to give you money for the thing, go get the thing or make your website not say you have it!

That's odd, the cage in gaming was full of the Blue XL bundles on Friday, though I'm sure if you tried to buy one it would have rejected the sale. (Unless it wasn't a hard release date.)

I am very depressed now as I was looking forward to picking it up today plus the waste in gas. I'm planning to go to the other store tomorrow.

I assumed that a store wouldn't scan inventory until they were removed from the shipping boxes and ready to be put out on the shelves.

Xenogears of Bore

No the reason why best buy is going under is almost entirely on being undercut by the internet. They are huge stores with massive overhead and can't afford to be only making sales on loss leaders while acting primarily as a showroom for Amazon. You'll hear tales of people spending an hour with a TV salesman only to thank them, whip out a smartphone and place an order for the tv they want right in the middle of the store and guess what, they are true.

BB actually saw this coming and tried a bunch of things over the past few years to slow it down but if anything the stagnant economy has forced more fiscal discipline on people who still need the latest and greatest.

DaveTheWave

So that Animal Crossing shortage.

I was reading this:

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/32665

and wondering. How does this work for the downloadable version of the game? Obviously you can't download a NAND chip. Does the downloadable version somehow emulate the physical version?

Wraithverge

DaveTheWave wrote: »

So that Animal Crossing shortage.

I was reading this:

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/32665

and wondering. How does this work for the downloadable version of the game? Obviously you can't download a NAND chip. Does the downloadable version somehow emulate the physical version?

Very good point... this concerns me a great deal now. There's no way to emulate something like this unless the write speed of the 3DS game carts is REALLY slow. The digital download version would be writing to SD memory which is generally slow (I think the stock SD cards shipped with the 3DS were class 2). Maybe they will ship with a warning that you need a class 6+ to play the digital version?

Gnizmo

maximumzero wrote: »

Gnizmo wrote: »

Scribblenauts Unlimited is amazing but a little different from past games. There is a story, and an overworld map to navigate. Amazingly fun still though and much improved controls.

I have Scribblenauts on the Wii U and it's my first Scribblenauts. I'm having a hard time getting into it, but I haven't given up yet.

The fun is to be as absurd as possible for the sake of being absurd. For example, I learned that raptors will not eat god. They will eat babies though. Trapping a vampire in amber works well for cloning dinosaurs as well. I have been working on a shark with legs, but no luck yet.

Librarian's ghost

I just realized I need to decide on the game to buy with the 3DS tomorrow. Is it okay to play the Layton games out of order?

Taya

I've been playing Scribblenauts with some friends, and there are always people who suggest the most normal and obvious solutions possible. Others like to be ridiculous just to see if it will work. When we try something crazy and the game accepts our answer, it's much more fun.

skeldare

timspork's ghost wrote: »

I just realized I need to decide on the game to buy with the 3DS tomorrow. Is it okay to play the Layton games out of order?

Probably not for the overarching story. If you're going to start with a Layton game but don't want to play them all I'd start with the last one, The Last Specter (or The Spectre's Call in EU).

Librarian's ghost

skeldare wrote: »

skeldare wrote: »

timspork's ghost wrote: »

I just realized I need to decide on the game to buy with the 3DS tomorrow. Is it okay to play the Layton games out of order?

Probably not for the overarching story. If you're going to start with a Layton game but don't want to play them all I'd start with the last one, The Last Specter (or The Spectre's Call in EU).

I do want to play them all, but the first one I'm probably going to have to order.

Man of the Waves

After being unable to find the Adventure Time in stores I ordered it from Amazon, like I should've done in the first place.

Except, it ended up coming from a third party store. I still ordered the Enchiridion version for the 3DS.

What came in the mail was the regular DS version.

I decided I'd keep it instead of spending extra money for a scalped version somewhere and it didn't even have a Club Nintendo PIN.

LBD_Nytetrayn

Drascin wrote: »

Drascin wrote: »

skeldare wrote: »

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/182672/Miyamoto_wonders_Is_story_really_necessary_when_gameplay_will_do.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+GamasutraNews+(Gamasutra+News)#.ULkH_aXaYcg

"It's fine without a story, so do we really need one?"
- Kensuke Tanabe, software planning and development department for Paper Mario: Sticker Star on the Nintendo 3DS, recalls how veteran Nintendo designer Shigeru Miyamoto asked for story elements to be left out of the game.

In a new Iwata Asks interview on the Nintendo website, president Satoru Iwata discussed the development of the latest in the Paper Mario series with the team behind it, who in turn revealed why the game was so light on story compared to previous installments.

As it turns out, Miyamoto -- who had a hand in the game's design -- instructed the team to lay off the story elements, as he believed that the gameplay elements were what players really wanted.

"With regard to the story, we did a survey over the Super Paper Mario game in Club Nintendo, and not even 1 percent said the story was interesting," noted Tanabe. "A lot of people said that the 'Flip' move for switching between the 3D and 2D dimensions was fun."

Taro Kudo, the co-director of scenario design on the game, added, "I originally saw it in a way that's similar to Miyamoto-san. Personally I think all we need is to have an objective to win the boss battle at the end of the game."

He continued, "I didn't think we necessarily needed a lengthy story like in an RPG. Instead, we looked at the characteristics of a portable game that can be played little by little in small pieces and packed in lots of little episodes and ideas. I always did like putting in little ideas, so I actually enjoyed it."

Miyamoto, dude, the hilarious dialogue and funnidiculous stories are the reason people come to the Mario RPGs! Bowser's Inside Story wasn't great because it was groundbreaking gameplay-wise - it was great because it was hilarious and awesome at the same time!

Anyway, I actually had come here to ask - Christmas is coming, and with it christmas gift lists. I've been kind of out of the loop about game releases, though. What good stuff has come out in 3DS for us Europeasants in the last couple months?

Miyamoto doesn't seem to get why people enjoy games as much any more-- he misunderstands, misreads, or just misses it somehow, it seems. And given he watches people as they play... I don't know.

I mean, he's asking why people would want another F-Zero, as he doesn't think there's anything new to be done with it. Never mind HD, online play, and other possibilities...

I thought he was supposed to be semi-retiring to work on his own smaller projects, anyway.

Rami

Now that the XL is out (and there's more games) I'm finally ready to get a 3DS. But I want a special edition one since I already waited so long. The Pikachu edition is out in the UK soon, but I think I'd rather import a US 3DS cause the exchange rate will make it and all it's games cheaper. And it will probably be ages before there's another special edition released in NA.

:?

ArcSyn

Maybe they're using the system memory somehow as a temporary write location while it waits for the SD card to finish writing?

The game carts are probably really slow to write to, as usually you only save to it rarely compared to how much you read from it. So they probably have really good read speeds, but poor write speeds.

mxmarks

So my girlfriend is obsessed with Animal Crossing. Obsessed.

Can she do the whole Wild World/City Folk transfer suitcase thing from a 3DS to her Wii?

LBD_Nytetrayn

mxmarks wrote: »

So my girlfriend is obsessed with Animal Crossing. Obsessed.

Can she do the whole Wild World/City Folk transfer suitcase thing from a 3DS to her Wii?

I'd guess not, but I'll bet that she can send the Wii stuff (and/or maybe the DS stuff) to the 3DS (unless someone has verified otherwise).

Librarian's ghost

whoooo 3ds xl got!

I picked up Super Mario 3D Land as well and just bought Pushmo from the eStore.

I also registered both the console and game. What are the coins for and how do I use them?

ArcSyn

timspork's ghost wrote: »

whoooo 3ds xl got!

I picked up Super Mario 3D Land as well and just bought Pushmo from the eStore.

I also registered both the console and game. What are the coins for and how do I use them?

If you earn 300 coins in the Club year (July 1 - June 30) you earn a gold prize for free. If you earn 600 coins in that time period, you earn a platinum prize for free. Additionally, you can spend the coins you earn (does not reduce the coins earned towards gold/platinum) on prizes of your choice, for the cost listed in the Club store. Shipping is even free! You can keep coins for up to 2 Club years after the year you earned them. So if you earned the coins December 2012, they would not expire until June 30, 2015.

They will offer pre-purchase interest in a game occasionally which allows you to fill out a survey and when you buy and register the game you will get 10 additional coins. They also offer 10 additional coins if you buy the game within 4 weeks of release.

jclast

Does stuff ever come back? I missed Mario's Picross and would love to grab it for coins instead of real money.

mere_immortal

Are there any size limits on SD cards you can use? They are super cheap it seems, wouldn't mind grabbing a 32GB one if it's supported.

Librarian's ghost

First impressions. Pushmo is amazing. I can't wait to play Crashmo. Super Mario 3D Land is also great!

I really wish Duck Tales NES was on the eShop. I would kill to have that.

Zephiran

Yes, every SDHC card is supported, and given you format the card for FAT32, you could theoretically use some of the more spacious SDXC cards as well - 128 GB isn't outside your reach, but we don't really know yet how well the really big cards fare. As in, formatting them for FAT32 and plugging them in is something of a case of round peg, square hole. It fits and can be used, but the machine was in all likeliness not designed at all with this eventuality in mind.

jclast

Okay having watched a video of it Pushmo looks amazing. I need a 3DS points card.

skeldare

mere_immortal wrote: »

Are there any size limits on SD cards you can use? They are super cheap it seems, wouldn't mind grabbing a 32GB one if it's supported.

32 GB is the highest supported, at least officially. Some people apparently have been able to get larger ones to work.

Librarian's ghost

Wow having a lot of fun with Mario Kart 7.

This is the first Nintendo handheld I have owned since the original, original Gameboy which was stolen by a car rental company.

It is cool if I post my Friend Code? No quite sure yet how do add people.

Code is, 5472-6198-4568

Evil_Reaver

timspork's ghost wrote: »

Wow having a lot of fun with Mario Kart 7.

This is the first Nintendo handheld I have owned since the original, original Gameboy which was stolen by a car rental company.

It is cool if I post my Friend Code? No quite sure yet how do add people.

Code is, 5472-6198-4568

I added you, @timspork's ghost. I don't have MK7 yet, but whatever.

Librarian's ghost

So is Mario Kart 7 on the SD card? If I put in a 32 gig card I'll have to switch back to the 4 gig to play it right? Can I transfer the data from one card to the other with my computer?

skeldare

timspork's ghost wrote: »

So is Mario Kart 7 on the SD card? If I put in a 32 gig card I'll have to switch back to the 4 gig to play it right? Can I transfer the data from one card to the other with my computer?

Yes you can.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/ht_settings.jsp

Important Note!

Need: Two compatible SD cards or SDHC cards

Need: An SD Card slot on a PC or Mac or a commercially available SD card reader/writer

Do Not: Alter, move, or erase files in the Nintendo 3DS folder.

Do Not: Overwrite data by recopying to the same SD card.



What to do:

Insert the SD card with the Nintendo 3DS data into the SD card slot or the SD card reader/writer.

Open Windows Explorer (for PC) or Finder (for Mac) and access the SD card.

Highlight the data and drag it to the desktop.

Eject the first SD card.

Insert the second SD card into the slot or reader/writer.

Using Windows Explorer or Finder, locate and access the SD card again.

Drag the data from the desktop to the second SD card.

Librarian's ghost

skeldare wrote: »

timspork's ghost wrote: »

So is Mario Kart 7 on the SD card? If I put in a 32 gig card I'll have to switch back to the 4 gig to play it right? Can I transfer the data from one card to the other with my computer?

Yes you can.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/ht_settings.jsp

Important Note!

Need: Two compatible SD cards or SDHC cards

Need: An SD Card slot on a PC or Mac or a commercially available SD card reader/writer

Do Not: Alter, move, or erase files in the Nintendo 3DS folder.

Do Not: Overwrite data by recopying to the same SD card.



What to do:

Insert the SD card with the Nintendo 3DS data into the SD card slot or the SD card reader/writer.

Open Windows Explorer (for PC) or Finder (for Mac) and access the SD card.

Highlight the data and drag it to the desktop.

Eject the first SD card.

Insert the second SD card into the slot or reader/writer.

Using Windows Explorer or Finder, locate and access the SD card again.

Drag the data from the desktop to the second SD card.

Thanks much for the info!

I also ordered a copy of 999 and a used copy of Layton Curious Village.

skeldare

timspork's ghost wrote: »

skeldare wrote: »

timspork's ghost wrote: »

So is Mario Kart 7 on the SD card? If I put in a 32 gig card I'll have to switch back to the 4 gig to play it right? Can I transfer the data from one card to the other with my computer?

Yes you can.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/ht_settings.jsp

Important Note!

Need: Two compatible SD cards or SDHC cards

Need: An SD Card slot on a PC or Mac or a commercially available SD card reader/writer

Do Not: Alter, move, or erase files in the Nintendo 3DS folder.

Do Not: Overwrite data by recopying to the same SD card.



What to do:

Insert the SD card with the Nintendo 3DS data into the SD card slot or the SD card reader/writer.

Open Windows Explorer (for PC) or Finder (for Mac) and access the SD card.

Highlight the data and drag it to the desktop.

Eject the first SD card.

Insert the second SD card into the slot or reader/writer.

Using Windows Explorer or Finder, locate and access the SD card again.

Drag the data from the desktop to the second SD card.

Thanks much for the info!

I also ordered a copy of 999 and a used copy of Layton Curious Village.

Welcome Pefect choices!

jothki

Crashmo.

Played through the first few sets of levels. I can see it getting painfully difficult really quickly, but so far it's done a decent job at making me feel like I'm actually solving levels. Hopefully it'll last when I reach the murals.

mere_immortal

After my first streetpass yesterday, I walked around on my lunch break today judging everyone I walked past on how probable it might be that they have a 3DS in their bag.

I may have a problem.

b1rdman

Just wait til you start following children, or hanging out where they congregate just to get another street pass. THEN you may have a problem

skeldare

b1rdman wrote: »

Just wait til you start following children, or hanging out where they congregate just to get another street pass. THEN you may have a problem

b1rdman

skeldare wrote: »

b1rdman wrote: »

Just wait til you start following children, or hanging out where they congregate just to get another street pass. THEN you may have a problem

seconds later...

Madpanda

Picking up an XL this weekend, figured i would check cheapassgamer to see if any sales would be going

Best Buy -

3DS
Nintendo 3DS>>>>>$129.99
(Note: Ad DOES NOT list Red 3DS w/Super Mario 3D Land as being on sale YMMV)

Nintendo 3DS XL>>>>>$159.99 *New Pink/White 3DS XL Lauches 12/9 as well*
(Note: Ad DOES NOT list Blue 3DS XL w/Mario Kart 7 as being on sale YMMV)

SAVE $20 When you Buy ANY 2 of THESE 3DS Titles ($39.99 each)
Paper Mario Sticker Star
Super Mario 3D Land
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Style Savvy Trendsetters
Mario Kart 7
Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask


http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333691



Sooo wondering if i can pick up the xl on friday then come in Sunday to get it price matched and pick up 4 of those games on sale.

cloudeagle

...fuck. Considering how rare Nintendo game sales tend to be I may have to hop on that.

Zephiran

"Stabulous, they'd say!"

skeldare

February 4th for Fire Emblem. Sweet.