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Friend Zone! any help much appreciated.

Rushmore87Rushmore87 Registered User new member
I'll try to keep this short. In april 2010 i met through a mutral friend this girl on his birthday night out. She then joined our regular parties on xbox. A year past of us talking on xbox 3-4 nights a week, then we met again in person with friends and by this time i was into her. For personal reasons i had to put off asking her out then Feb just past i did and she said yes. Had 2 dates however i knew she had been hurt before and I have various medical conditions that kept me in special school and in hospital a lot so i dont have much confidence. So i didn't make a move as it were, I assumed i had more time and i thought we were close enough that it wouldn't be the clincher right away. I noticed her start to pull away, she was barely on xbox and replying to my texts. I asked her for the third date and to my surprise, at the time thinking it was last ditch attempt for her to talk to me, she said yes. She then ignored me for 2 months without giving me an answer on the day. I eventually asked what was up and she said she just wasn't in the right place. She said maybe in the future, my naive side kicked in and i hoped she was telling the truth and not just something to say.

After 5 months or so of just texting here and there and basically no xbox, i asked if she wanted to meet, she said yes. Went on 3 ''non dates'' and we got on better than ever before. No silences, no lulls, nothing. I asked if she would maybe consider trying again, she said she'd rather just keep meeting like we have been.

am i totally screwed or is there something i can do ? light flirting? etc ? to maybe build up the idea in her head. It's not like she wasn't interested in me at some point, i was just an idiot and didn't take the chance when i had it. I obviously won't mention dating again but if she's still willing to meet in the way we have been , which i hope she is, do you think its still possible?

any help is greatly appreciated. I will say i do care deeply about this girl, this is not just coming from a 'i wanna get off' kind of way, i've never felt about anyone like her. Which begs the question why i didn't kiss her on the actual dates, i was shy. Trust me, i was i could of been the person i am now with her back then, more than anything.

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  • minirhyderminirhyder BerlinRegistered User regular
    If she said she'd rather be friends with you, there's nothing you can do.
    Either get used to being just friends with her, or let her go.

  • AgahnimAgahnim Registered User regular
    You're thinking too much about this. Ask her out again and tell her you really like her. If she says yes immediately give a date and place (Ok, what about this _moviename_? I hear its a lot of fun!)

    If she says no, then too bad for her. The important thing is to ask her (if you really like her). People have gotten together from stranger circumstances.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    minirhyder wrote: »
    If she said she'd rather be friends with you, there's nothing you can do.
    Either get used to being just friends with her, or let her go.

    Pretty much this. You don't want to become a Nice Guy, because that path just leads to pain and anger. What you need to do, OP, is determine if you are willing to be her friend with no agendas. This isn't an easy call to make, and it's possible that you can't. If you can't, then you need to either lay it out on the line with her, or just make a clean break. If you can, then this means that you need to be her friend. Which means that you need to drag out all your visions of what could have been out for the Ol' Yeller treatment. (And if you can't do that, see part one.)

    Chalk it up to a learning experience - in the future, you'll know better.

    Also, deep six the Friend Zone. It's a rather poisonous way to look at relationships, and it will do you more harm than good.

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  • AgahnimAgahnim Registered User regular
    Also I would suggest you don't frame it as "wouldnt it be funny if we went out again? Haha, wanna go out? itotallyunderstandifyoudontwantto".

    Be confident and self assured. You don't need to explain how you've changed or why things didn't work out last time. Just throw it out there, but then move on. No one likes Captain Linger.

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    Dont use the phrase 'friendzone'. It comes with a lot of kind of misogynist baggage (whether you mean it or not).

    Anyway. She doesn't want to be more than friends with you. Full stop. She told you directly. After 7-10 months of pining over her and getting a direct 'no', you need to just move on.

    Wassermelone on
  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    Agahnim wrote: »
    Also I would suggest you don't frame it as "wouldnt it be funny if we went out again? Haha, wanna go out? itotallyunderstandifyoudontwantto".

    Be confident and self assured. You don't need to explain how you've changed or why things didn't work out last time. Just throw it out there, but then move on. No one likes Captain Linger.

    I don't know why you are suggesting he keep trying considering:
    I asked if she would maybe consider trying again, she said she'd rather just keep meeting like we have been.

    Wassermelone on
  • naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Agahnim wrote: »
    You're thinking too much about this. Ask her out again and tell her you really like her. If she says yes immediately give a date and place (Ok, what about this _moviename_? I hear its a lot of fun!)

    This is really super awful advice, OP, unless your aim is to make her uncomfortable and all but guarantee that she will want nothing to do with you, friendly or otherwise.

    She has already given you her answer, in the very clearest of terms, and the only viable advice at this point is to do as @AngelHedgie suggests and determine if you are willing to be her friend with no agendas. If not, that is totally okay; there is nothing at all wrong with having your interest in someone me mainly/entirely romantic, and elect not to be friends with them if a relationship proves impossible or unlikely. You have to look out for yourself, just like she has to look out for herself.

    She is not into you. If you want to be her friend, great. If not, also great. The way forward at this point depends entirely on your own comfort and needs.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    Agahnim wrote: »
    Also I would suggest you don't frame it as "wouldnt it be funny if we went out again? Haha, wanna go out? itotallyunderstandifyoudontwantto".

    Be confident and self assured. You don't need to explain how you've changed or why things didn't work out last time. Just throw it out there, but then move on. No one likes Captain Linger.

    I don't know why you are suggesting he keep trying considering:
    I asked if she would maybe consider trying again, she said she'd rather just keep meeting like we have been.

    Because he played it wishy-washy. If you're going to put it on the line, then remember that fortune favors the bold. No "would you like", make your intentions clear. Just realize that this is a high risk maneuver, and there is a high chance that it will not end well.

    Honestly, this is not a viable option in my opinion.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Oh, and OP, these takeaways will serve you well:

    1. Not everyone you are into will reciprocate.
    2. This does not reflect badly on them - we all want what we want, and that often does not align.
    3. This does not reflect badly on you - you are still awesome, and the right person will see that.
    4. So, don't give up!

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  • AgahnimAgahnim Registered User regular
    I've seen people in this situation where it worked out great. I wouldn't suggest he pursue her if she just shot him down. He already went on two dates with her but got cold feet and backed down. I get the feeling he wasn't exactly forward with asking, which is a sure fire way to get rejected.

    Ask her out in no uncertain terms, get it out of your system, and if she doesn't respond move on.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    It really does not sound to me like she's into you at all as anything more than friends. If you don't want to be just friends there's nothing forcing you to keep talking to her, otherwise I would just drop it because she really did say pretty clearly from the sound of it that she likes you as a friend and that's it.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • AgahnimAgahnim Registered User regular
    Agahnim wrote: »
    Also I would suggest you don't frame it as "wouldnt it be funny if we went out again? Haha, wanna go out? itotallyunderstandifyoudontwantto".

    Be confident and self assured. You don't need to explain how you've changed or why things didn't work out last time. Just throw it out there, but then move on. No one likes Captain Linger.

    I don't know why you are suggesting he keep trying considering:
    I asked if she would maybe consider trying again, she said she'd rather just keep meeting like we have been.

    Because he played it wishy-washy. If you're going to put it on the line, then remember that fortune favors the bold. No "would you like", make your intentions clear. Just realize that this is a high risk maneuver, and there is a high chance that it will not end well.

    Honestly, this is not a viable option in my opinion.

    Nailed it. While the fact that they had successful dates previously together raises his chances in my opinion, it is still very risky. Even if she says no, however, I think it would do the OP good and would cut the cords of amorous affection instead of letting it linger one way or another.

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  • AgahnimAgahnim Registered User regular
    OP, my brain appears to run counter-clockwise while everyone else's here runs clockwise. Please take that into consideration if you do ask her out.

    No matter what though, keep AngelHedgie's list in mind. There is nothing wrong with you if she isn't interested.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    The simplest way to end your pain is just to stop seeing her. It takes some mental training to just block girls who are not interested in you, find another girl.

    Hear my warnings, unbelievers. We have raised altars in this land so that we may sacrifice you to our gods. There is no hope in opposing the inevitable. Put down your arms, unbelievers, and bow before the forces of Chaos!
  • InxInx Registered User regular
    If you're cool with just being her friend, then keep meeting like you have, and keep being friends, and all that good stuff. Don't think about dating her. No ulterior motif of winning her heart. If something eventually grows between you, then awesome, but do not fucking expect it or push for it or even think of it as a possibility if you take this route.

    If you can't have her in your life if she's not on your dick, then you need to just...not have her in your life. Cuz she's not on your dick, and odds are she never will be.

  • notmetalenoughnotmetalenough Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    Rushmore87 wrote: »
    It's not like she wasn't interested in me at some point,

    unless your write up is missing something, it is like that. you went on a couple dates. she gave it a shot and wasn't into you.

    she's still not into you. it might not be the way you wish things were, but she's done you at least one favor. you don't need to agonize over "what if?" it's not something she wants.

    for the future, you can TALK about this stuff directly with people you're interested in. it works.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    Don't be her friend if you are just playing the part in hopes of getting her as a GF later. it's not really fair to her, and to be honest, you will end up bitter about it most likely.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Dont use the phrase 'friendzone'. It comes with a lot of kind of misogynist baggage (whether you mean it or not).

    Anyway. She doesn't want to be more than friends with you. Full stop. She told you directly. After 7-10 months of pining over her and getting a direct 'no', you need to just move on.

    It's also one rung away from ladder theory.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • NosfNosf Registered User regular

    Move on, that's that.

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