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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    edited December 2012
    übergeek wrote: »
    übergeek wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    New Meta II: Electric Boogaloo.

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    3 slutty women, 1 modest one, and a blind guy who can't be distracted by any of them is the new meta? =)

    No.

    No.

    Roaming Support Counter Jungle Jungle Evelyn. You roam. You support. You counter jungle, and you jungle. You are the most complicated role in the game.

    I don't fully understand it yet, it's kind of a revelation. Chaos Hat can educate us all on how it's done.

    *edit* WTF HOW IS LUX SLUTTY! YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

    Roz on
  • übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    I see MF, Eve and Nidalee. Slutty. Lux is the modest one.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    welp when I play something besides a brutally overpowered champ in abam the enemy team is jayce, nidalee, kat, lux, and ashe

    guess it's gonna be all zyra all the time

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Is Ashe considered to be strong now?

    Opinion of her is always so all over the place.

  • SampsenSampsen Aggressive Berserker Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Roz wrote: »
    Guys guys its:

    Roaming Support Counter Jungle Jungle Jax. GET IT RIGHT!

    Roz, I have a feeling your regular elo is lower than what it should be, because these things shouldn't be working!

    Also, STOP WINNING WITHOUT ME. I need the ego boost of knowing you guys need me there.

    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Is Ashe considered to be strong now?

    Opinion of her is always so all over the place.

    Her initiate is the best in the game. I think she is really strong if you have a tank line that can properly protect you. So... not strong or weak damage-wise, but best initiate, so I think she is strong.

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  • CarnarvonCarnarvon Registered User regular
    I AM THE NEW AD CARRY

    have fun with top

  • SampsenSampsen Aggressive Berserker Registered User regular
    Carnarvon wrote: »
    I AM THE NEW AD CARRY

    have fun with top

    Haha, if you actually enjoyed AD carry I would let you have it. Draven top all day.

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  • CarnarvonCarnarvon Registered User regular
    Sampsen wrote: »
    Carnarvon wrote: »
    I AM THE NEW AD CARRY

    have fun with top

    Haha, if you actually enjoyed AD carry I would let you have it. Draven top all day.

    it is a cancer that eats at my soul

  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    Talith wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    Pretty sure this is one of those bugs that needs to be turned into a feature.

    As someone who has to deal with Ez a lot

    I'm pretty sure it isn't.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    Downvote. I want FF iEdge Ezreal to be the new meta comps are built around.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    So like... ...Newb time here, but I surely didn't know just walking into brush shut Yorick down so hard. As Fizz I just poked him then E'd into the brush after he popped all of his ghouls and they can't do anything. He walks into it after me and I W>Q right through him into the middle of the lane and walk away.

    Still hate Yorick, but that discovery is like... salvation.

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  • SampsenSampsen Aggressive Berserker Registered User regular
    Talith wrote: »
    Downvote. I want FF iEdge Ezreal to be the new meta comps are built around.

    Downvote. Ezreal is already way too easy with the amount of damage he does.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    So like... ...Newb time here, but I surely didn't know just walking into brush shut Yorick down so hard. As Fizz I just poked him then E'd into the brush after he popped all of his ghouls and they can't do anything. He walks into it after me and I W>Q right through him into the middle of the lane and walk away.

    Still hate Yorick, but that discovery is like... salvation.

    That's because most good Yoricks will ward if the enemy stats doing that :D, or they scout with the Green ghoul and then cast the Red.

    Either way works.

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    So like... ...Newb time here, but I surely didn't know just walking into brush shut Yorick down so hard. As Fizz I just poked him then E'd into the brush after he popped all of his ghouls and they can't do anything. He walks into it after me and I W>Q right through him into the middle of the lane and walk away.

    Still hate Yorick, but that discovery is like... salvation.

    That's because most good Yoricks will ward if the enemy stats doing that :D, or they scout with the Green ghoul and then cast the Red.

    Either way works.

    And now Yorick can get even MORE ghosts to scout with.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    I rarely play Ashe when I do go bot, but I played her with Nami today and I was pleasantly surprised, the slows and stuns were brutal. I think I'm going to have to play her more, I like Sivir but I have to work so god damn hard with her...

    Also she benefits from the furor boots more than of the other ad carries, in my opinion.

  • Lord PalingtonLord Palington he.him.his History-loving pal!Registered User regular
    So I'm looking more and more at Dominion. I've played some bot matches for FWotD, but I am looking for some guides/videos on how to play against people. Also, what changes did S3 make that I need to look out for?

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    So like... ...Newb time here, but I surely didn't know just walking into brush shut Yorick down so hard. As Fizz I just poked him then E'd into the brush after he popped all of his ghouls and they can't do anything. He walks into it after me and I W>Q right through him into the middle of the lane and walk away.

    Still hate Yorick, but that discovery is like... salvation.

    That's because most good Yoricks will ward if the enemy stats doing that :D, or they scout with the Green ghoul and then cast the Red.

    Either way works.

    If he wants to ward 3 bushes, just to be able to use his poke, that's a lot of gold he's giving up in lane just to try to poke safely.

    I think that's a fair trade. His ghouls are only really an issue for the first 6 or 7 levels anyway, so as long as I can survive past that rough stretch, which is where I'd usually struggle, that's awesome.

    Little things!

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Sampsen wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    Downvote. I want FF iEdge Ezreal to be the new meta comps are built around.

    Downvote. Ezreal is already way too easy with the amount of damage he does.
    Should you really be complaining about people playing easy champions when you play Graves...?

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    So I'm looking more and more at Dominion. I've played some bot matches for FWotD, but I am looking for some guides/videos on how to play against people. Also, what changes did S3 make that I need to look out for?

    Basically just the item changes. So you will be seeing new builds from people. I would expect a lot of black cleaver spam until they fix that item.

  • SampsenSampsen Aggressive Berserker Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    Sampsen wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    Downvote. I want FF iEdge Ezreal to be the new meta comps are built around.

    Downvote. Ezreal is already way too easy with the amount of damage he does.
    Should you really be complaining about people playing easy champions when you play Graves...?

    Graves doesn't have a 475 blink that ignores all cc applied to him, a global ult that scales off both ad and ap, or an 1100 range skill shot that also scales off ad and ap.

    Ezreal has multiple ways to poke you, jump on you, farm from safety, and do tons of damage. Even if you are partially zoned, ezreal can farm. Graves cannot. He has one objective, which is to burst you. If he can't do that, he can't do much in lane. Ezreal can do everything.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    Bursting is just one thing Graves does. He also does that ranged ADC thing really well, what with the sustained damage and the winning trades.

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  • SampsenSampsen Aggressive Berserker Registered User regular
    I find Graves doesn't do aa trades well at all. His range really puts him at a disadvantage.

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  • LefLef Registered User regular
    There are only 2 things I want out of LoL now:
    1. An official Replay system so we can actually do analysis, especially for tournament games.
    2. A NEW FUCKING CLIENT.

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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Is Ashe considered to be strong now?

    Opinion of her is always so all over the place.

    In Aram yes, her volley harass is some of the strongest in the game for ADC's. Probably only behind Varus, Jayce, and maybe sivir in terms of raw power on that map.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Yup. Still got it.

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    Zed is still the best.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Sampsen wrote: »
    His range really puts him at a disadvantage.
    I PLAY SIVIR

    Although really I'm just mad that he's so insanely easy to last hit with and he gets such a strong reposition and steroid.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    So, pickpocket? Who's it worth using on?

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    Lef wrote: »
    There are only 2 things I want out of LoL now:
    1. An official Replay system so we can actually do analysis, especially for tournament games.
    2. A NEW FUCKING CLIENT.

    I still don't understand why they don't just make a lolreplay of tournaments for us to watch later. I mean the technology is right there! Lolreplay has been around forever.

    So weird they haven't made some official way to integrate this.

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  • PrjctD_CaptainPrjctD_Captain iFizzRegistered User regular
    Guys.

    Guys, listen.

    Guys, I think I've figured out a counter to Yorick

    Guys

    Guys, stick with me.

    What if....you use AP Yi on Yorick? Your Alpha Strike will clear his stupid minions, and meditate garuntees that you will out sustain him.

    What do you think?

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  • SampsenSampsen Aggressive Berserker Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    Sampsen wrote: »
    His range really puts him at a disadvantage.
    I PLAY SIVIR

    Although really I'm just mad that he's so insanely easy to last hit with and he gets such a strong reposition and steroid.

    Sivir is in my top 3 as well, and her range also puts her at a disadvantage in aa trades. Though she farms easier than Graves, so I don't get your point.

    Really, if you want to beat Graves, you just need to position yourself so that you can't get caught by the support. Don't try and trade in a way that will leave you open to harass/cc from the support and you'll win the lane.

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  • eeSanGeeSanG I slice like a goddamn hammer. Registered User regular
    First, Traditional AD Carry items on Ezreal has been my favorite way to build him for some time. Hate Triforce.

    Second, the secret to trading as Graves is to Auto before Buckshot. Quickdraw, Auto, Buckshot, Auto.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Lef wrote: »
    There are only 2 things I want out of LoL now:
    1. An official Replay system so we can actually do analysis, especially for tournament games.
    2. A NEW FUCKING CLIENT.

    I still don't understand why they don't just make a lolreplay of tournaments for us to watch later. I mean the technology is right there! Lolreplay has been around forever.

    So weird they haven't made some official way to integrate this.

    Lolreplay tends to break almost every patch too until they repatch it. Riot specifically said the hardest part was dealing with the constant patches and updates. The last post regarding this said they found a way to make that work and were now working on other aspects of it.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    Lef wrote: »
    There are only 2 things I want out of LoL now:
    1. An official Replay system so we can actually do analysis, especially for tournament games.
    2. A NEW FUCKING CLIENT.

    I still don't understand why they don't just make a lolreplay of tournaments for us to watch later. I mean the technology is right there! Lolreplay has been around forever.

    So weird they haven't made some official way to integrate this.

    Lolreplay tends to break almost every patch too until they repatch it. Riot specifically said the hardest part was dealing with the constant patches and updates. The last post regarding this said they found a way to make that work and were now working on other aspects of it.

    Well, yeah, its wonky. But like, wouldn't you want a replay of the tournaments to watch? Especially tournaments, since they are on older, stable patches. Frankly most of the time the commentors annoy me and whoever is controlling the camera just doesn't watch what I want to see a lot of the time. Which is unavoidable, but damn, I'd pay 5$ for the replay files from IPL5 or similar.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Lef wrote: »
    There are only 2 things I want out of LoL now:
    1. An official Replay system so we can actually do analysis, especially for tournament games.
    2. A NEW FUCKING CLIENT.

    I still don't understand why they don't just make a lolreplay of tournaments for us to watch later. I mean the technology is right there! Lolreplay has been around forever.

    So weird they haven't made some official way to integrate this.

    Lolreplay tends to break almost every patch too until they repatch it. Riot specifically said the hardest part was dealing with the constant patches and updates. The last post regarding this said they found a way to make that work and were now working on other aspects of it.

    Well, yeah, its wonky. But like, wouldn't you want a replay of the tournaments to watch? Especially tournaments, since they are on older, stable patches. Frankly most of the time the commentors annoy me and whoever is controlling the camera just doesn't watch what I want to see a lot of the time. Which is unavoidable, but damn, I'd pay 5$ for the replay files from IPL5 or similar.

    Yeah but they can't really endorse a third party system for something like that. Especially with that amount of money on the line and how hard they are pushing legitimacy for the sport. Everything needs to be official Riot brand (tm)

    Which means it will take awhile but it will be pretty solid when they release it. Like when they finally released spectator mode.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Guys.

    Guys, listen.

    Guys, I think I've figured out a counter to Yorick

    Guys

    Guys, stick with me.

    What if....you use AP Yi on Yorick? Your Alpha Strike will clear his stupid minions, and meditate garuntees that you will out sustain him.

    What do you think?

    Could work well, Yorick has no hard CC, right?

    I know on Dominion I poop on Yoricks pretty consistently with Nunu.

    Those delicious, delicious ghouls.

  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Sampsen wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    Sampsen wrote: »
    His range really puts him at a disadvantage.
    I PLAY SIVIR

    Although really I'm just mad that he's so insanely easy to last hit with and he gets such a strong reposition and steroid.
    Sivir is in my top 3 as well, and her range also puts her at a disadvantage in aa trades. Though she farms easier than Graves, so I don't get your point.

    Really, if you want to beat Graves, you just need to position yourself so that you can't get caught by the support. Don't try and trade in a way that will leave you open to harass/cc from the support and you'll win the lane.
    She's easier to farm if you have mana to burn, but I find her AA animation immensely more difficult to hit with. I'm pretty bad at last hitting generally, though. Maybe other people don't mind the slower projectiles and animations.

  • PacificstarPacificstar Registered User regular
    Guys.

    Guys, listen.

    Guys, I think I've figured out a counter to Yorick

    Guys

    Guys, stick with me.

    What if....you use AP Yi on Yorick? Your Alpha Strike will clear his stupid minions, and meditate garuntees that you will out sustain him.

    What do you think?

    I did fine with Gangplank. Q on ghouls still gives gold. All you need is mana regen. Then get a Tiamat

  • PrjctD_CaptainPrjctD_Captain iFizzRegistered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Guys.

    Guys, listen.

    Guys, I think I've figured out a counter to Yorick

    Guys

    Guys, stick with me.

    What if....you use AP Yi on Yorick? Your Alpha Strike will clear his stupid minions, and meditate garuntees that you will out sustain him.

    What do you think?

    Could work well, Yorick has no hard CC, right?

    I know on Dominion I poop on Yoricks pretty consistently with Nunu.

    Those delicious, delicious ghouls.

    Nothing harder than a slow. Any Yorick players in the house wanna go against me and test this?

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    edited December 2012
    This is the most silly and annoying thing. "I called it, I get to do it even though you pick earlier!"
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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    So i think the new changes have ruined Ashe.

    She is essentially hard counterable in masteries and items now (slow reduction), her primary item builds were nerfed significantly without compensation, and other carries have been given significant itemization advantages. Has anyone made her work with the new changes?

    Edit: She doesn't even get much of an advantage compared to other champions in stacking a manamune since the bonus mana on attacking is now 4 mana

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