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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    I'd say go to the NY Posts' page if you want to find out/be spoiled but fuck sending them traffic.

    ACTUAL REAL DC SPOILER CLICK ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE SPOILED
    No seriously think this over.
    They're killing off Damian Wayne/Robin

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    It's a shame that this will never happen. From Kelly Sue DeConnick's tumblr.
    I just listened to your interview on word balloon, it was great. I never thought about how most people subconsciously assume that female creators should be, for lack of a better word, sequestered to books with female characters. That seems pretty unfair. That being said, what characters, male or female, would you like to write?
    — bensears

    Helen Cobb & Orson Randall team up.

    Least commercial comic idea in the history of ever and I want to write it sooooooo baaaaaaad.

    That would be so cool. Like The Avengers without all the British sexual repression. Heroes be fuckin'.

    Oh man, I want this

    vastly late but heck yes this is a thing I want

    with art by Francisco Francavilla

    (partly because I just want more Francavilla and he'd do something pulp adventure-y like this soooo well.)

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    The worst part is
    Grant Morrison going around doing interviews being all "Oh yeah, he dies"

    like, what happened to letting people be surprised??

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    So I read DCU Presents 17, the Arsenal issue.

    It was fine but man it basically read like "Fraction's Hawkeye is pretty good, I'm gonna do that."

    Roy had the same super casual style of speak as Clint does, "I bet he has a quarter like thing in his pocket. I'm gonna get me that quarter thing."

    there was the "translation" joke where Chinese was translated into <Sarcastic Thanks> and the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    I've been reading Keatinge's other book, Morbius, which also has a very casual Hawkeye-esque tone and I've been enjoying it but I am worried he might have found a voice he likes and is just using it. It also probably annoyed me more with Arsenal because, y'know, archers.

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  • sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    I didn't read the issue but I don't think using everyday items as weapons is really imitation. Even in the awful Rise of Arsenal mini he was able to do that, hell, Green Arrow just did that.

    Also, reading Keatinge's other books he reads like an average at best writer, he's solid on dialogue but everything else seems really bland. His first issue of glory read like the most by the numbers issue of Wonder Woman ever, complete with the fan girl that let's us know how big a deal she is.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    If it was just that, yeah, but the style of dialogue and the goddamn <Wrong Translation> jokes were so blatant

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  • AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    If it was just that, yeah, but the style of dialogue and the goddamn <Wrong Translation> jokes were so blatant

    Do you think Fraction himself also tends to alwyas give his characters the same casual voice? I read some Imortal Iron Fist and while I really enjoyed it, the main character seemed super similar to Hawkeye in terms of personality.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    No. That is just because Clint and Danny are pretty similar dudes. His work on iron Man and F4 and Thor shows he can do distinct voices easily.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    That's his thing

    that's why he's called Arsenal

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    I really like Arsenal in Young Justice. Not his personality so much (which is pretty understandable given his history in the show, so I don't hate it)

    but him having a Bionic Commando/Inspecter Gadget arm is cool

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    That's his thing

    that's why he's called Arsenal

    Not anymore. Now he's Red Arrow.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    That's his thing

    that's why he's called Arsenal

    Not anymore. Now he's Red Arrow.

    What?

    No he's not.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    That's his thing

    that's why he's called Arsenal

    Not anymore. Now he's Red Arrow.

    What?

    No he's not.

    In the comics he is IIRC.

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Arsenal is the most 90s name ever

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    That's his thing

    that's why he's called Arsenal

    Not anymore. Now he's Red Arrow.

    What?

    No he's not.

    In the comics he is IIRC.

    have you not read a comic in like 4 years

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    can I just say that I am tired of comic book "fans" who constantly bitch and moan for no good reason

    like I know it's my fault for reading comments and stuff, but seriously, everywhere (but here I guess) that people are talking about the Marvel #1 teaser are people convinced that the sky is really, truly falling down on all our heads this year

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    That's his thing

    that's why he's called Arsenal

    Not anymore. Now he's Red Arrow.

    What?

    No he's not.

    He went Arsenal --> Red Arrow before the New 52. He took up Red Arrow when he joined the Justice League (he was Arsenal back in his Outsiders days).

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    That's his thing

    that's why he's called Arsenal

    Not anymore. Now he's Red Arrow.

    What?

    No he's not.

    He went Arsenal --> Red Arrow before the New 52. He took up Red Arrow when he joined the Justice League (he was Arsenal back in his Outsiders days).

    He became Red Arrow in Justice League in 2007, then back to Arsenal in 2010. He's only been Arsenal in The New 52.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    the theme of the issue was that Roy likes using his bow but can survive just fine without it by improvising with other mundane items and it just felt like a blatant imitation.

    That's his thing

    that's why he's called Arsenal

    Not anymore. Now he's Red Arrow.

    What?

    No he's not.

    In the comics he is IIRC.

    YOU RECALL INCORRECTLY

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Arsenal is the most 90s name ever

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Didn't he go from Red Arrow to Arsenal because he lost his arm in Cry for Justice?

  • sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    Except he didn't lose his arm because cry for justice never happened and nothing you say will convince me it did.

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  • sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
    I really like Arsenal in Young Justice. Not his personality so much (which is pretty understandable given his history in the show, so I don't hate it)

    but him having a Bionic Commando/Inspecter Gadget arm is cool

    Is he still an asshole in the show or was that just for the first episode? I never watched the rest.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Didn't he go from Red Arrow to Arsenal because he lost his arm in Cry for Justice?

    He went Speedy -> Arsenal -> Red Arrow -> Arsenal

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Keith wrote: »
    I really like Arsenal in Young Justice. Not his personality so much (which is pretty understandable given his history in the show, so I don't hate it)

    but him having a Bionic Commando/Inspecter Gadget arm is cool

    Is he still an asshole in the show or was that just for the first episode? I never watched the rest.

    Yeah he's an asshole but he has some pretty badass action scenes

    Latest episode spoilers
    Nightwing kicked him off the team for repeatedly going off plan/leaving others because of his own agenda/demons (he didn't want to get captured again)

    He's now hanging out with Static and the Super Friends

  • sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    See, I like the new arsenal because he wouldn't pull shit like that. He would probably just get really high and forget about the plan or where he was.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    See, I like the new arsenal because he wouldn't pull shit like that. He would probably just get really high and forget about the plan or swing a dead cat around.

  • sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    DIDN'T HAPPEN

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    He also probably wouldn't get high cause

    recovering addict

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    I really love New52 Arsenal. including how much shit he gets from everyone for the hat.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Young Justice Arsenal is the biggest jackass ever

    Harry DresdenBucketman
  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    so wait, in the new 52 does Arsenal now have no relationship to Green Arrow?

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  • sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    If I remember correctly the zero issue made him Ollie's weapon expert.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I don't like it

    I don't like it one bit

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Balefuego wrote: »
    so wait, in the new 52 does Arsenal now have no relationship to Green Arrow?
    Roy was Oliver Queen's sidekick, but due to unknown circumstances, Roy was kicked out of his position, and Oliver took the stocks that he gave him within Q-Core, leaving him to his own devices. Roy became a depressed alcoholic and death seeker who attempts to commit a variation of suicide by fighting Killer Croc.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    well, i need to complain about the fact that the dude who wrote Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter is helping with the Fantastic Four reboot

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Fantastic-Four-Reboot-Get-Touch-Up-From-Dark-Shadows-Screenwriter-36023.html

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    New 52 Green Arrow sounds like an asshole.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Which is

    dumb

    since Ollie is meant to be young. Like, early 20s young in the New 52.

    Arsenal is also around that age.

    Him being his sidekick seems suuuuper weird.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    The trade notes that the new cinematic version of the superhero team with be "taking a grounded superhero and sci-fi approach" and that there are plans to incorporate many more elements from the comics and deep mythology, which includes Doctor Doom, Galactus, and the alien races known as the Kree and the Skrull.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Well I guess that means the Kree are off-limits for the MCU.

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