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    noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    I think what's hurting Gunn at this point is that he took down the webpage and hasn't commented on it. Now, like Brubaker said on twitter, that probably has something to do with the fact he probably now has to go through Disney/Marvel when he wants to release a statement, but still..

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    cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    A different perspective on the James Gunn situation: http://badassdigest.com/2012/11/29/borders-line-on-james-gunn-satire-and-sexism/

    Anyways, that Thunderbolts preview looks okay, not really sure why it's groan worthy aside from "oh no it's steve dillon"

    My beef is that they ignored continuity from the Circle of Four arc in Venom. Is it that hard to know that those two characters already met and knew their alter egos?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah also that, Rulk and Venom are kinda bros. Ross vouched for Flash and is the reason Steve accepted him into the Secret Avengers.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Hellstrom's turn to baddie was also ignored in a few books, but still seemed to be intact in Venom

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    firstly, Venom is fantastic currently

    as fantastic as it has ever been!

    And the whole supernatural element with demons and shit is cool and interesting

    also

    god Steve Dillon's art is so bad

    so bad

    and they ignored Circle of Four which is, like, what?

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    TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    They did? How?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Flash meets Ross for the first time in Thunderbolts, saying he has "heard of him."

    Whereas the two met and became friends in Circle of Four and Ross is why Flash was even brought on the Avengers

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    cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Flash meets Ross for the first time in Thunderbolts, saying he has "heard of him."

    Whereas the two met and became friends in Circle of Four and Ross is why Flash was even brought on the Avengers

    They even called each other 'Colonel' and 'General'. They even had the awesomeness that was Venom-Rulk-Rider on his RV of Doom!

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    i won't accept anything that ignores "ME AM SMASH FOR VENGEANCE!"

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    No no, it's WE AM SMASH FOR VENGEANCE.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I'm sorry I've failed you all

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    TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Flash meets Ross for the first time in Thunderbolts, saying he has "heard of him."

    Whereas the two met and became friends in Circle of Four and Ross is why Flash was even brought on the Avengers
    I didn't think Ross told Venom his real name?
    Apart from that he was a general or whatever

    But I don't remember exactly

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Flash meets Ross for the first time in Thunderbolts, saying he has "heard of him."

    Whereas the two met and became friends in Circle of Four and Ross is why Flash was even brought on the Avengers
    I didn't think Ross told Venom his real name?
    Apart from that he was a general or whatever

    But I don't remember exactly
    Well even so, they saw each other. So Flash would have recognized him anyways.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    James Gunn issued an apology/explanation for the blog post:
    A couple of years ago I wrote a blog that was meant to be satirical and funny. In rereading it over the past day I don't think it's funny. The attempted humor in the blog does not represent my actual feelings. However, I can see where statements were poorly worded and offensive to many. I'm sorry and regret making them at all.

    People who are familiar with me as evidenced by my Facebook page and other mediums know that I'm an outspoken proponent for the rights of the gay and lesbian community, women and anyone who feels disenfranchised, and it kills me that some other outsider like myself, despite his or her gender or sexuality, might feel hurt or attacked by something I said. We're all in the same camp, and I want to do my best to make this world a better place for all of us. I'm learning all the time. I promise to be more careful with my words in the future. And I will do my best to be funnier as well. Much love to all - James

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    James Gunn issued an apology/explanation for the blog post:
    A couple of years ago I wrote a blog that was meant to be satirical and funny. In rereading it over the past day I don't think it's funny. The attempted humor in the blog does not represent my actual feelings. However, I can see where statements were poorly worded and offensive to many. I'm sorry and regret making them at all.

    People who are familiar with me as evidenced by my Facebook page and other mediums know that I'm an outspoken proponent for the rights of the gay and lesbian community, women and anyone who feels disenfranchised, and it kills me that some other outsider like myself, despite his or her gender or sexuality, might feel hurt or attacked by something I said. We're all in the same camp, and I want to do my best to make this world a better place for all of us. I'm learning all the time. I promise to be more careful with my words in the future. And I will do my best to be funnier as well. Much love to all - James

    I...

    Maybe I'm being to generous but that seems like a legit apology.

    But then again he probably just got an ear full from Marvel or Joss....

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Nah, Gunn totally has a history of being a very strong supporter of gay and women's rights. The blog post seemed very out of character for him, if in line with his crass sense of humor.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Nah, Gunn totally has a history of being a very strong supporter of gay and women's rights. The blog post seemed very out of character for him, if in line with his crass sense of humor.

    For sure. I just mean it doesn't sound that like one of those apologies people make because they have to but don't really think they did anything wrong.

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Anyway, Ross and Flash know each other. And Ross referred to Flash/Venom as Corporal.

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Has flash seen him while he isnt Rulked out?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yup.

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    Steve Dillon's art sucks and Daniel Way is ignoring continuity and being a shitty writer

    I'm stunned

    SIMPLY STUNNED

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    sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    Gunn's apology sounds genuine, so that's good. Hopefully, this doesn't effect his career.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    Steve Dillon's art sucks and Daniel Way is ignoring continuity and being a shitty writer

    I'm stunned

    SIMPLY STUNNED

    hey!

    stop dripping sarcasm everywhere!

    I just cleaned this floor...

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    RedDeliciousRedDelicious Registered User regular
    Gunn's apology sounds genuine, so that's good. Hopefully, this doesn't effect his career.
    He's very fortunate in that this is all happening before the release of a big-time movie. If this had happened AFTER a movie and before he had his next project lined up, it might be a different story, but two years from now all anyone will remember about the guy is GotG.

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    Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Gunn's apology sounds genuine, so that's good. Hopefully, this doesn't effect his career.
    He's very fortunate in that this is all happening before the release of a big-time movie. If this had happened AFTER a movie and before he had his next project lined up, it might be a different story, but two years from now all anyone will remember about the guy is GotG.

    Yep.

    To be honest, I bet most people who have done grunt work on the internet before moving on to bigger and better things very probably have some stuff in the mix they'd prefer to forget.

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    Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    I had almost forgotten about the Way/Dillon Thunderbolts.

    It sounded good in theory, you know, before the creative team was announced. Now that I've seen previews, I think can safely skip it.

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    cardboard delusionscardboard delusions USAgent PSN: USAgent31Registered User regular
    What book is USAgent in?

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Dark Avengers, starting with #184. Or at least that's the start of Parker's direction with Walker as the leader.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I had almost forgotten about the Way/Dillon Thunderbolts.

    It sounded good in theory, you know, before the creative team was announced. Now that I've seen previews, I think can safely skip it.

    You see the cover red hulk? Elektra? Frank? Flash? Wade?
    Oh hell this is gonna kick ass

    Of Daniel Way? Erm . . at least it'll be pretty.
    Steve Dillon you say?
    Oh.

    Oh.

    Well I'll buy a poster of the cover at least.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Yeah the cover art was like woah

    and then... the creative team

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    See this woulda been a perfect opportunity to just have Skottie Young draw the interior!

    edit: Have we gotten a Young USA agent baby yet?

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Not yet, but there should be one for a DA cover. Make it an homage to Patton's opening scene.

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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    Thanks to @Caveman Paws, @cshadow42 has been taken into custody and will be processed for... 'questioning'.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Augh, Robot , I was curious why , and checked profile, why would you do that, that's worse than a rickroll!

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    noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    See this woulda been a perfect opportunity to just have Skottie Young draw the interior!

    edit: Have we gotten a Young USA agent baby yet?

    What's the last interiors he's done?

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    The Oz stuff, I think.

    Check out his sketch tumblr.

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    X-Men vs. Avengers: Babies, wasn't it?

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    That was Gurihiru, who did all those fun Power Pack mini series.

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    cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    Augh, Robot , I was curious why , and checked profile, why would you do that, that's worse than a rickroll!

    Guess this means I shouldn't post pictures from the Hawkeye Initiative (where they take cheesecake T&A covers and replace them with Hawkeye). But here's a link to them.

    My favorite ones are where they take Land's drawings and replace his porno-traces with Hawkeye.

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    cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    Augh, Robot , I was curious why , and checked profile, why would you do that, that's worse than a rickroll!

    Guess this means I shouldn't post pictures from the Hawkeye Initiative (where they take cheesecake T&A covers and replace them with Hawkeye). But here's a link to them.

    My favorite ones are where they take Land's drawings and replace his porno-traces with Hawkeye.

    Ok, I've just been told I'm not really in trouble, and that I was caught as part of a holiday game. So without further ado, the Hawkeye Initiative takes on Land!
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