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[Industry Thread] The most bafflingly awful collector's edition ever

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    If it's fun.. I'll buy it. *shrug*

    But are you having all the fun possible, or only 50-70% of the fun the game provides, and then you need to pay $40 to unlock the rest of the fun?

    That's not that relevant if he was already satisfied by the milliconans of fun he already paid for.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    If it's fun.. I'll buy it. *shrug*

    But are you having all the fun possible, or only 50-70% of the fun the game provides, and then you need to pay $40 to unlock the rest of the fun?

    If I believe it's worth the extra money then I will pay for it.

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  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Henroid wrote: »
    A friend just brought this to my attention. Kotaku published an article titled "The Guy Who Made Bayonetta Is Clueless About Valve and PC Gaming. That’s Common In Japan." - it's about Hideki Kamiya and was based on him saying "not interested" when asked about developing PC games. Like that's it, he's not interested, and it sparks a condescending article. So this stuff happened:

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    Yeah... Hideki Kamiya is crazy as shit. If you haven't been reading his Twitter, do so for a good week or so.

    Those answers aren't that different from his normal Twitter feed. I think questions about Capcom's DmC (which he didn't work on) sent him over the edge.

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  • EVOLEVOL Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    From what I understand he made a fairly amicable comment about not really know abouting Valve and not caring about PC gaming. Instead of leaving it at that some people who tried to make him 'see the light' repeatedly which got him pissed, and then Kotaku spinned the whole thing into an article.

    Also, this

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    In the end it was a trivial event blown out of proportion, and just confirmed how much of a shitty site Kotaku is. But we all knew that already.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    I like that man.

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  • C2BC2B SwitzerlandRegistered User regular
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/fargo-details-torment-game-in-numenera-universe/
    In an interview to appear on this website at 1700 UK time today, inXile’s Brian Fargo reveals that a new Torment game is really definitely happening, and explains that it will be made in conjunction with RPG author and original Planescape Torment designer, Monte Cook, as well as a number of other key individuals from the original Planescape team. The game will be set in Cook’s ambitious pen and paper Numenera Universe, which was Kickstarted last year to the tune of half a million dollars. As well as explaining how this setting constitutes a new Planescape Torment game, without actually being a Planescape Torment game, Fargo says stuff like: “We won’t have faeries or devils, but we’ll have diabolical creatures from far dimensions with schemes beyond human imagination. We won’t have gods, but we’ll have creatures who have lived for millennia with the powers of creation and destruction at their fingertips, with abilities honed over countless lifetimes. We won’t have other planes per se, but we’ll have pathways to hostile worlds and bizarre landscapes and ancient machines that catapult the players into places where the ordinary laws of nature no longer apply.”

    Come back at 5 for a lot more of that sort of thing.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    C2B wrote: »
    C2B wrote: »
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/fargo-details-torment-game-in-numenera-universe/
    In an interview to appear on this website at 1700 UK time today, inXile’s Brian Fargo reveals that a new Torment game is really definitely happening, and explains that it will be made in conjunction with RPG author and original Planescape Torment designer, Monte Cook, as well as a number of other key individuals from the original Planescape team. The game will be set in Cook’s ambitious pen and paper Numenera Universe, which was Kickstarted last year to the tune of half a million dollars. As well as explaining how this setting constitutes a new Planescape Torment game, without actually being a Planescape Torment game, Fargo says stuff like: “We won’t have faeries or devils, but we’ll have diabolical creatures from far dimensions with schemes beyond human imagination. We won’t have gods, but we’ll have creatures who have lived for millennia with the powers of creation and destruction at their fingertips, with abilities honed over countless lifetimes. We won’t have other planes per se, but we’ll have pathways to hostile worlds and bizarre landscapes and ancient machines that catapult the players into places where the ordinary laws of nature no longer apply.”

    Come back at 5 for a lot more of that sort of thing.


    We won't have Zombies, we'll have the walking shells of creatures that no longer live, that crave the flesh of those that still do.

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  • Mego ThorMego Thor "I say thee...NAY!" Registered User regular
    Totally Not Planescape sounds like an instant lawsuit.

    Is it wrong that I want a Eureka game whenever I read the name "Fargo" here?

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Is it wrong that I want a Eureka game whenever I read the name "Fargo" here?

    No. But it would've been better when the show was good.

  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    C2B wrote: »
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/fargo-details-torment-game-in-numenera-universe/
    In an interview to appear on this website at 1700 UK time today, inXile’s Brian Fargo reveals that a new Torment game is really definitely happening, and explains that it will be made in conjunction with RPG author and original Planescape Torment designer, Monte Cook, as well as a number of other key individuals from the original Planescape team. The game will be set in Cook’s ambitious pen and paper Numenera Universe, which was Kickstarted last year to the tune of half a million dollars. As well as explaining how this setting constitutes a new Planescape Torment game, without actually being a Planescape Torment game, Fargo says stuff like: “We won’t have faeries or devils, but we’ll have diabolical creatures from far dimensions with schemes beyond human imagination. We won’t have gods, but we’ll have creatures who have lived for millennia with the powers of creation and destruction at their fingertips, with abilities honed over countless lifetimes. We won’t have other planes per se, but we’ll have pathways to hostile worlds and bizarre landscapes and ancient machines that catapult the players into places where the ordinary laws of nature no longer apply.”

    Come back at 5 for a lot more of that sort of thing.

    Oh boy, this is gonna be good. I am keen on learning why the game that has nothing to do with Planescape Torment is being hyped as a new Planescape Torment game.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Is it wrong that I want a Eureka game whenever I read the name "Fargo" here?

    No. But it would've been better when the show was good.

    But the last two seasons were phenomenal! :(

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  • C2BC2B SwitzerlandRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Oh boy, this is gonna be good. I am keen on learning why the game that has nothing to do with Planescape Torment is being hyped as a new Planescape Torment game.

    Because its based on the same pinciples, design goals and themes. As well as being developed by a major designer on Torment as well as the setting itself and lead by the lead designer of Mask of the Betrayer that is frequently compared to Torment.

    Also supported by the majority of people who ever worked on Planescape related stuff.


    So, yes. Imo, that's a lot on why this certainly can call itself a spiritual successor to Planescape:Torment.

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    I like that man.

    Seriously. I'm contemplating a Bayonetta 2 purchase just because of how awesome he is.
    I was intending on buying The Wonderful 101 anyway.

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  • Mego ThorMego Thor "I say thee...NAY!" Registered User regular
    "While we won't have actual dragons in Lamescape ForRent, there will be large winged lizards...

    ...that breath fire."

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  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    EVOL wrote: »
    From what I understand he made a fairly amicable comment about not really know abouting Valve and not caring about PC gaming. Instead of leaving it at that some people who tried to make him 'see the light' repeatedly which got him pissed, and then Kotaku spinned the whole thing into an article.

    Also, this

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    In the end it was a trivial event blown out of proportion, and just confirmed how much of a shitty site Kotaku is. But we all knew that already.

    Oh, all that is true. Doesn't change the fact that the man is crazy on Twitter.

    Here, GAF had a whole thread.
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=409960

    Twitter. RT @SlayerMaiden666: @PG_kamiya So.... Besides video games What are you into?

    Boring questions, yes. RT @glassrebel @PG_Kamiya Are you tired of answering questions about DMC?

    Your questions are boring. Ask Mikami. RT @StandardCA: @PG_kamiya So Murata left before you joined the team or after?

    Here's a Twitter loop he made from replies... all about Bayonetta 2.


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    You get the idea. Read the thread. There's gold there.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    "While we won't have actual dragons in Lamescape ForRent, there will be large winged lizards...

    ...that breath fire."

    I have no problem with that. Legally it's what you have to do when the IP holder shows no interest in doing anything with the property.

    Seriously I don't understand why they basically threw away all their classic campaign settings to rot.

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  • C2BC2B SwitzerlandRegistered User regular
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    EVOL wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Bump in vita sales but no games on the top 20? Is there something going on that I don't know about?

    Not really. It's weird. No new software, no new colors nothing.

    Kids got new years money is all.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    EVOL wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Bump in vita sales but no games on the top 20? Is there something going on that I don't know about?

    Not really. It's weird. No new software, no new colors nothing.

    Kids got new years money is all.

    I thought that was just for Chinese New Year.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    No Japan has been using the Gregorian calender since the 1870's for determining New Years.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    I don't think the Lunar New Year is a cash-giving holiday in Japan. Or even a major holiday at all. Probably like Halloween.

  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    I guess the Kinect and Move probably helped muddle up consumer comprehension about the Wiiu being a whole new thing.

    The Kinect even has a different box color thing going.

    Of course the Wiiu isn't gonna tank because people don't know it exists, though.

    I don't get why some people are so intent on competitive arguing in this particular thread, debating rumors and market tendencies is part of the Industry Talk thing. We're not supposed to reach a solid, monolithic consensus here, I figure. Presenting scenarios and hypotesis is part of the fun... This is not wikipedia.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Synthesis wrote: »
    I don't think the Lunar New Year is a cash-giving holiday in Japan. Or even a major holiday at all. Probably like Halloween.

    Kids get their Otoshi-dama in New Year's, which is just money in an envelope.

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
  • sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    EVOL wrote: »
    From what I understand he made a fairly amicable comment about not really know abouting Valve and not caring about PC gaming. Instead of leaving it at that some people who tried to make him 'see the light' repeatedly which got him pissed, and then Kotaku spinned the whole thing into an article.

    Also, this

    i8N8j.png

    In the end it was a trivial event blown out of proportion, and just confirmed how much of a shitty site Kotaku is. But we all knew that already.

    Oh, all that is true. Doesn't change the fact that the man is crazy on Twitter.

    Here, GAF had a whole thread.
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=409960

    Twitter. RT @SlayerMaiden666: @PG_kamiya So.... Besides video games What are you into?

    Boring questions, yes. RT @glassrebel @PG_Kamiya Are you tired of answering questions about DMC?

    Your questions are boring. Ask Mikami. RT @StandardCA: @PG_kamiya So Murata left before you joined the team or after?

    Here's a Twitter loop he made from replies... all about Bayonetta 2.


    Kamiya2.jpg

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    You get the idea. Read the thread. There's gold there.

    He's like a Japanese Henry Rollins.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    I don't think the Lunar New Year is a cash-giving holiday in Japan. Or even a major holiday at all. Probably like Halloween.

    Kids get their Otoshi-dama in New Year's, which is just money in an envelope.

    So it isn't! And now we know!

    EDIT: If Wikipedia is to be believed, Okinawa is a notable exception.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Totally Not Planescape sounds like an instant lawsuit.

    Is it wrong that I want a Eureka game whenever I read the name "Fargo" here?

    Nope. Can't copyright ideas, just the expression of them. If the trade dress and design was similar enough where somebody might in good faith be confused about whether they are buying PS:T or this new game, you might have a lawsuit, but challenging a decade-later game that uses a fantasy setting incorporating some thematic elements of planescape isn't a winning lawsuit. A large company with an active IP might file suit anyway in an attempt to bully out a competitor by leveraging the costs of discovery, but I would expect it to be tossed out with an early motion to dismiss.

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  • AllforceAllforce Registered User regular
    Well we get a first glimpse at that "whole room" technology MS was working on today....and it looks pretty impressive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=re1EatGRV0w

  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    Donnicton wrote: »
    C2B wrote: »
    C2B wrote: »
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/fargo-details-torment-game-in-numenera-universe/
    In an interview to appear on this website at 1700 UK time today, inXile’s Brian Fargo reveals that a new Torment game is really definitely happening, and explains that it will be made in conjunction with RPG author and original Planescape Torment designer, Monte Cook, as well as a number of other key individuals from the original Planescape team. The game will be set in Cook’s ambitious pen and paper Numenera Universe, which was Kickstarted last year to the tune of half a million dollars. As well as explaining how this setting constitutes a new Planescape Torment game, without actually being a Planescape Torment game, Fargo says stuff like: “We won’t have faeries or devils, but we’ll have diabolical creatures from far dimensions with schemes beyond human imagination. We won’t have gods, but we’ll have creatures who have lived for millennia with the powers of creation and destruction at their fingertips, with abilities honed over countless lifetimes. We won’t have other planes per se, but we’ll have pathways to hostile worlds and bizarre landscapes and ancient machines that catapult the players into places where the ordinary laws of nature no longer apply.”

    Come back at 5 for a lot more of that sort of thing.


    We won't have Zombies, we'll have the walking shells of creatures that no longer live, that crave the flesh of those that still do.

    So instead of "zombies" (aka the Planescape realms which are property of WotC) they are going with mummies (their own creations).

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    Allforce wrote: »
    Well we get a first glimpse at that "whole room" technology MS was working on today....and it looks pretty impressive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=re1EatGRV0w

    And what would be displaying these augmentations beyond your TV? A projector? It looks neat, but I don't know how you would apply it in real life situations.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    Allforce wrote: »
    Well we get a first glimpse at that "whole room" technology MS was working on today....and it looks pretty impressive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=re1EatGRV0w

    Well... it's not a tablet? What is going on?

    No I don't.
  • Ragnar DragonfyreRagnar Dragonfyre Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    I guess the Kinect and Move probably helped muddle up consumer comprehension about the Wiiu being a whole new thing.

    The Kinect even has a different box color thing going.

    Of course the Wiiu isn't gonna tank because people don't know it exists, though.

    I don't get why some people are so intent on competitive arguing in this particular thread, debating rumors and market tendencies is part of the Industry Talk thing. We're not supposed to reach a solid, monolithic consensus here, I figure. Presenting scenarios and hypotesis is part of the fun... This is not wikipedia.

    It's fun to discuss superfluous topics about the games industry that would cause most peoples eyes to gloss over. No, seriously... it is.

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  • Mego ThorMego Thor "I say thee...NAY!" Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    kaliyama wrote: »
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Totally Not Planescape sounds like an instant lawsuit.

    Is it wrong that I want a Eureka game whenever I read the name "Fargo" here?

    Nope. Can't copyright ideas, just the expression of them. If the trade dress and design was similar enough where somebody might in good faith be confused about whether they are buying PS:T or this new game, you might have a lawsuit, but challenging a decade-later game that uses a fantasy setting incorporating some thematic elements of planescape isn't a winning lawsuit. A large company with an active IP might file suit anyway in an attempt to bully out a competitor by leveraging the costs of discovery, but I would expect it to be tossed out with an early motion to dismiss.

    And that's fine, but Fargo's "spritual successor to Planescape" talk is giving the actual IP holder (Hasbro? Wikipedia says that Fargo holds the IP) plenty of ammunition for a court case, and lots of heads-up to release their own official Planescape sequel to cash in on all the Kickstarter goodwill.

    There's nothing wrong with derivitive works, but you want to at least make sure the serial numbers are good and filed off. Everybody knows The Prisoner was John Drake from Danger Man, but Patrick McGoohan sure as hell never admitted it.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Allforce wrote: »
    Allforce wrote: »
    Well we get a first glimpse at that "whole room" technology MS was working on today....and it looks pretty impressive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=re1EatGRV0w
    Now I want the next next XBox. :p

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    I guess the Kinect and Move probably helped muddle up consumer comprehension about the Wiiu being a whole new thing.

    The Kinect even has a different box color thing going.

    Of course the Wiiu isn't gonna tank because people don't know it exists, though.

    I don't get why some people are so intent on competitive arguing in this particular thread, debating rumors and market tendencies is part of the Industry Talk thing. We're not supposed to reach a solid, monolithic consensus here, I figure. Presenting scenarios and hypotesis is part of the fun... This is not wikipedia.

    It's fun to discuss superfluous topics about the games industry that would cause most peoples eyes to gloss over. No, seriously... it is.

    That's not it.

  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Allforce wrote: »
    Well we get a first glimpse at that "whole room" technology MS was working on today....and it looks pretty impressive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=re1EatGRV0w

    The future is a projector facing your TV! Double TV. Or TV²

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  • Mego ThorMego Thor "I say thee...NAY!" Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Tv v!

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    I guess the Kinect and Move probably helped muddle up consumer comprehension about the Wiiu being a whole new thing.

    The Kinect even has a different box color thing going.

    Of course the Wiiu isn't gonna tank because people don't know it exists, though.

    I don't get why some people are so intent on competitive arguing in this particular thread, debating rumors and market tendencies is part of the Industry Talk thing. We're not supposed to reach a solid, monolithic consensus here, I figure. Presenting scenarios and hypotesis is part of the fun... This is not wikipedia.

    It's fun to discuss superfluous topics about the games industry that would cause most peoples eyes to gloss over. No, seriously... it is.

    Yeah I mean that's fun yeah.

    It's not like investor companies read our posts before making investments.

    At least I hope not.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    I guess the Kinect and Move probably helped muddle up consumer comprehension about the Wiiu being a whole new thing.

    The Kinect even has a different box color thing going.

    Of course the Wiiu isn't gonna tank because people don't know it exists, though.

    I don't get why some people are so intent on competitive arguing in this particular thread, debating rumors and market tendencies is part of the Industry Talk thing. We're not supposed to reach a solid, monolithic consensus here, I figure. Presenting scenarios and hypotesis is part of the fun... This is not wikipedia.

    It's fun to discuss superfluous topics about the games industry that would cause most peoples eyes to gloss over. No, seriously... it is.

    Yeah I mean that's fun yeah.

    It's not like investor companies read our posts before making investments.

    At least I hope not.

    Why? We couldn't be any worse than professional analysts.

  • AllforceAllforce Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Allforce wrote: »
    Well we get a first glimpse at that "whole room" technology MS was working on today....and it looks pretty impressive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=re1EatGRV0w

    And what would be displaying these augmentations beyond your TV? A projector? It looks neat, but I don't know how you would apply it in real life situations.

    It's all coming from the TV, this is Samsung's latest at CES being shown with Microsoft. Like that ambient light technology some TVs had only in conjunction with the game being played.

    So yeah, new TV time. Yay?

    Allforce on
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