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Django Unchained

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Don't let anyone talk to you about Django Unchained. Just get your ticket, and buy a drink and watch it when it comes out. You've already read too much!

No plot spoilers, but I do not recommend that you read the disjointed thoughts contained within.

Halfway through way what I would call the climax, I felt tears forming. This film could have gone in a bad way. In lesser hands, it could've been the most offensive film made for a decade (more or less). Sure, I went in with an open mind, but I'm never without skepticism. It floored me. I only found out that it was 2:45 long once the credits were done and I checked my watch.

In style, blood, and energy Django was an the amalgamation of childhood memories of spaghettis, unspoiled by a spoiled adult's eye, rewatching with the baggage of time.

Christoph Waltz aside (and he was wonderful), this was my favorite performance by everyone involved. And DiCaprio is, basically, Christoph Waltz in Basterds. Not in the particulars of how he inhabits the villain's skin, but in magnitude (without the terror). One could say that Jackson was even more terrifying.

Did I mention that it was gorgeous?

In this case the subject matter necessitated it, but there's something about putting a Western in the South that feels right. It takes place before it happens, but for me, this is now the civil war film (I haven't watched Ride With the Devil, yet).


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Can't wait to see this again.

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  • Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    I'll eagerly see anything new by Tarantino, and I'm delighted that he chose to work with Christoph Waltz again, whom he credits with making Inglourious Basterds even possible to film.

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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    I hear this film is almost three hours long. I could not be more stoked for this flick. So far, it's really the only awards season film that's being reviewed consistently well. Maybe this is QT's year after all.

  • ShadowhopeShadowhope Baa. Registered User regular
    I hear this film is almost three hours long. I could not be more stoked for this flick. So far, it's really the only awards season film that's being reviewed consistently well. Maybe this is QT's year after all.

    Zero Dark Thirty is getting good reviews so far as I'm aware.

    ZD30 and Django are the only films that I have any great interest in seeing in the near future.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I'm sorry, but Christopher Waltz looks like Ben Bernanke in this.

  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    I hear this film is almost three hours long. I could not be more stoked for this flick. So far, it's really the only awards season film that's being reviewed consistently well. Maybe this is QT's year after all.

    I only learned how long the film was after I checked my watch, when it ended.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    oh man I totally forgot this was coming out

    oh man oh man

    Eat it You Nasty Pig. on
    hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
    that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/12/09/SNLs-Foxx-Cheered-For-Killing-All-White-People-In-Movie

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    ive actually tried to tell (racist) people that only ~1/5 of the people on food stamps are black and they react as if I'm insulting their religion

    override367 on
  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Foxx's SNL monologue was pretty damn funny.

  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    ive actually tried to tell (racist) people that only ~1/5 of the people on food stamps are black and they react as if I'm insulting their religion

    Its cause you called them people.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    I have never really liked DiCaprio. He has been in some excellent movies but every movie I have seen with him in it I have watched because of some other actor/actress involved. But I think I can get on board with him as a villian.

  • rockrngerrockrnger Registered User regular

    My super rightwing spectator twitter feed is going to be glorious.

    Some good ones today:
    "Some black people need to mow my lawn, don't worry I already paid for it"

    "Lincoln was just like a sitcom. Dumb white people with smart black people"

    "Why is a man of Tarantino's supposed intelligence fellating the same old alpha man negro stereotypes."

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    ive actually tried to tell (racist) people that only ~1/5 of the people on food stamps are black and they react as if I'm insulting their religion
    In a way, you kinda did. Racist propaganda is their dogma.

  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    I want to see this so badly but I feel like Elki's pre spoiler op is the perfect advice. Tarantino movies are pretty much the only movies where all I need to hear is the pitch and I'm in.

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  • SpeakerSpeaker Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    As always, Ta-Nehisi Coates takes the thoughts right out of my head and turns them into blog posts.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/12/the-django-wars/266215/
    As Max Read notes, the response is reverberating out through right-wing media. This is not me merely taking pleasure in the wailing of my enemies. It is me taking pleasure in my enemies being forced to cope with other stories. It's me taking pleasure in the world being forced into something beyond the "Good Old Confederate/Never Meaning No Harm/Never Owned No Slaves/Yankees Raped And Killed My Wife/I Fought To Protect My Home."

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    wow... that drudge headline.

    I can't wait to see this movie, I had no idea it
    was that epicly long

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Most of Tarantino's movies are pretty long. Basterds, Kill Bill (if you convert it back into a single movie), Pulp Fiction, and Jackie Brown are all 2.5 hours or more.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Honestly, I'd love to take a film history course taught by Tarantino. Every time I've seen him in a documentary discussing film, he's wowed me with his knowledge of the history of film.

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  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    I love that the whole right wing is freaking out about the aspect of the film that I was excited for. How long until we get a movie about Charles Deslondes' rebellion?

  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Tarantino has this unparalleled ability to be brilliant and extremely interesting while looking like some whiny twat you'd want to punch inside of thirty seconds. It's like his only facial expression is a condescending sneer, yet I could listen to him talk about film for hours.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Tarantino has this unparalleled ability to be brilliant and extremely interesting while looking like some whiny twat you'd want to punch inside of thirty seconds. It's like his only facial expression is a condescending sneer, yet I could listen to him talk about film for hours.

    I love his movies but I am surprised by some of his comments. He claimed that Inglorious Basterds wasn't a critique of propaganda....which seems like a super weird statement for a movie in which the heroes commit all the horrific acts and you only cheer for them because they aren't German.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Tarantino has this unparalleled ability to be brilliant and extremely interesting while looking like some whiny twat you'd want to punch inside of thirty seconds. It's like his only facial expression is a condescending sneer, yet I could listen to him talk about film for hours.

    I love his movies but I am surprised by some of his comments. He claimed that Inglorious Basterds wasn't a critique of propaganda....which seems like a super weird statement for a movie in which the heroes commit all the horrific acts and you only cheer for them because they aren't German.

    plus the actual... propaganda film...

    yeah, that is a bit odd.

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    all I can think is that tarantino enjoys being a troll

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    all I can think is that tarantino enjoys being a troll

    I buy it.

    I'm going to appreciate Inglourious Basterd's social commentary, Tarantino, and you can't stop me aaaahahahahahaaa...

  • GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    Due to the nature of trailers, Foxx and Dicaprio's performances seem good, but also.. slick? Not out of character? But I absolutely expect/hope that to change when watching the actual movie.

    Also kind of expecting to be thrown a curveball or two in terms of where the story takes us.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Grislo wrote: »
    Due to the nature of trailers, Foxx and Dicaprio's performances seem good, but also.. slick? Not out of character? But I absolutely expect/hope that to change when watching the actual movie.

    Also kind of expecting to be thrown a curveball or two in terms of where the story takes us.

    I'll be kinda shocked if it is just a straight up action-y puff piece like the trailer depicts. The guys who do the trailers just get lost on some films.

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    edited December 2012
  • Kristmas KthulhuKristmas Kthulhu Currently Kultist Kthulhu Registered User regular
    I went to see the first showing of this with my family today, and the theater was completely packed.
    Waltz was an absolute delight, naturally, and I would not be surprised to see DiCaprio get an Oscar nod this year. He made the movie work in much the same way Waltz did with Basterds.

    My brother said he liked Basterds more, calling it a more "cerebral" film, though I haven't heard him elaborate on that yet. But he was sweating by the end of Django; that's how intense the movie was.

    Django was a surprisingly straightforward film, and for that, I really enjoyed it. The comparisons to Basterds are kind of unavoidable because they're so similar in tone, but I found I preferred Django.

    I'll be seeing it again in a week or so, so I ought to have more thoughts then. Everyone go see it.

  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    I thought Basterds had a slightly better theme and cinematic composition, but Django was great. A little anvilicious at times, but great.

    Basterds was pretty cerebral, since
    the basterds themselves really were the weakest link in the film, and honestly the jewish girl didn't need their help to kill Hitler. The basterds were a bit of a shaggy dog story.

    By contrast, Django was a straight up revenge flick, though the "talking" climax (as opposed to the "shooting" climax) was astonishingly good.

    Sam Jackson was actually pretty terrifying, and I honestly loved DiCaprio's character.

  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Saw it today, sadly only a few dozen in the theater. Les Miserables was the big draw where I went. Fantastic film, Tarantino keeps getting better.
    Great contrast between Dr. Schultz and Candie. Schultz, the bounty hunter, is far more cultured than Candie, who is basically a thug who likes to play dress up. Schultz can't stand hearing Beethoven in Candie's home, he points out what Candie obviously doesn't know about Dumas, and speaks French while Candie speaks none.

    There's a very funny scene in the first hour or so involving some bumbling Klansmen, actually there's quite a bit in the film that gets played for laughs, despite the fact that it is much darker in its own way than Inglourious Basterds was.

    Also tons of cameos and references to other Westerns that I appreciated, even though most of them I didn't catch. My particular favorite was the reference to The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly near the end.

    There's a lot more than that, but it takes awhile to process everything.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    People were lined up for the hobbit out the door, the movie theater was packed in general, I couldnt believe it for dec 25th. This movie is great and is definitely a theater experience. Lots of cameos and gags were had. Great times. SJ did something besides say "motherfucker" over and over and he was good.

    Something off I noticed:
    All the shots of "the wild" when they are riding, look fucking terrible. Like someone handi cammed them in their backyard which happened to be near the rockies. It wasn't like a filter effect or anything, which was present I think to make it look like an older western as homage, but in addition it just looked plain bad.

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  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Pretty sure the landscape shots were that way on purpose, also the crazy American geography, which is a staple of spaghetti westerns that were made by people who had no fucking clue about US geography.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Loved this movie. There was much more comedic parts than I was expecting, which made certain scenes even tenser by comparison.

  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Also I loved the running gag with
    everyone reacting seeing to a black man on a horse.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    Saw this today with the family (no young folks though in my family, which is better than I can say for the multiple families that brought their kids*). Very, very enjoyable for anyone who has liked more recent Tarantino films.

    I will say that in some ways it is thematically similar to Basterds, but whereas that film is occasionally amusing but has a dour undercurrent, this one is genuinely hilarious at times and is in the whole less mean-spirited. I know that doesn't count for much, but I think it mostly stems from much of the violence being almost cartoonishly bloody and abrupt with little sadism from the heroes, as well as the fact that DiCaprio isn't nearly as menacing as Waltz was before him. That said, I liked this more.

    *Do I have to remind you not to bring your kids to this movie? While it felt less darkly violent to me than Basterds, it's still incredibly so and was enough to put some people in the theater off during certain scenes.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Yeah, while waiting in line for it, I noticed there were tons of kids with their parents. It's like, had they not seen the trailers?

    Speaking of lines, based on the one in my theatre, Les Miserables is goingt to have quite the opening.

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