-the military patrol you run into with tess and ellie
-the clicker and runners you run into with tess and ellie while they stay up on the ledge
-fighting off all those infested when the only weapon you have is the hunting rifle
Died close to 10 times in each of those places, I would say.
I also don't feel I ever used a smoke bomb well, ever. I tried to throw one into the sniper's nest that one time but it missed and the sniper shot my nose off so I decided not to use them any more.
On the other hand...those molotovs...I used them so much during the more crowded levels with lots of soldiers in body armor. It was almost biblical.."wherever two or three are gathered in my sight, I am there among them".
Where "I" = "fiery Napalm death".
Also, someone explain to me how I can get chapter select to work. I have beat the game on hard. I can't pick anything in chapter select. I wanted to replay winter because it's awesome.
Also also, I was told you could somehow make your second run be survivor NG+, rather than having to play your second time on survivor, and your third time survivor NG+. How do I do this?
you might want to spoiler box the last one on your list there
and from what I remember, you have to start a NG+ on whatever difficulty you have unlocked, then bump it up to survivor through the menu as soon as you can in-game (right after the intro maybe?)
you might want to spoiler box the last one on your list there
and from what I remember, you have to start a NG+ on whatever difficulty you have unlocked, then bump it up to survivor through the menu as soon as you can in-game (right after the intro maybe?)
Edited it to make it a bit more opaque in case of spoilers!
Hm, so I would do a NG+ on hard, say, complete the first level, that makes sense. I'm not quite sure how to bump up the difficulty level in game though...maybe I should try to find a video walkthrough on this process. I must be missing something obvious.
Also, someone explain to me how I can get chapter select to work. I have beat the game on hard. I can't pick anything in chapter select. I wanted to replay winter because it's awesome.
Also also, I was told you could somehow make your second run be survivor NG+, rather than having to play your second time on survivor, and your third time survivor NG+. How do I do this?
If I remember correctly, when I finished the game, New Game+ was a new option (at/near the top) in the main menu. I was also able to select any chapter to play. Do you have multiple saves? Maybe it just loaded an earlier save (and now thinks it's the current playthrough)?
After strangling a platoon worth of bandits in the Fallout hotel, it was pretty funny to overhear them freaking out like the military just showed up at their door with tanks. Too bad I couldn't steal their armored car while it was right there; I could've made their dreams come true.
I also find it odd that so many people are interpreting the father/daughter relationship as one sided. And not considering that Ellie has accepted Joel as her substitute father.
How do we know that the final 'Okay' from Ellie isn't meaning - "Alright - I know you're lying Joel. But for what its worth we love each other and If you'd risk your life and humanity to save me, then Okay. I'm with you."
This is an old quote, but I think it's exactly correct.
Ellie accepts Joel as her father figure loooong before Joel starts caring about Ellie. That's why she's so upset when he plans to ditch her with Tommy.
It is obvious that the Fireflies never asked Ellie if she wanted to undergo the operation. Otherwise when she woke up she would have said "Why am I still alive" not "Why am I wearing hospital scrubs? What happened?" It is quite clear that Ellie was never conscious between the Fireflies finding her and them preparing to kill her. Not only did they not bother to ask her, they asked Marlene as only a cursory formality - and she knows it. Ellie was dead either way. The fireflies are a bunch of desperate terrorists on their last legs, gambling that by murdering this girl maybe they can make something good happen.
So, I think for the whole firefly thing, Ellie was unconscious. That said, Ellie isn't stupid, and I think she has an inkling that some bad stuff went down back in firefly town. (For instance, she probably noticed ALL my molotove cocktails were gone!) She knows Joel pretty well by this point.
She's been fighting like hell the whole time to get to the fireflies (people saying she had a death wish and wanted to die are wrong). I don't think she thought them finding a cure from her would mean her death, for multiple reasons. She tells Joel they can go wherever he wants after they get to the fire flies - but more importantly, if she had known going to the fireflies was certain death, she wouldn't have cared that Tommy and not Joel took her there.
Basically her asking Joel at the end can be taken as "Are we SURE we made the right decisions back there with the fireflies? I know you're hiding something from me" and Joel says "Yes, I did what needed to be done" and she says "Ok" accepting that she doesn't know exactly what happened but she doesn't need to - because she trusts Joel. And Joel lied to spare her unnecessary guilt - telling an impressionable young child who already struggles with survivor's guilt that it's her fault humanity is dying would be downright criminal.
I just think the ending was perfect. It's definitely open to other interpretations, I just think this one best accounts for the facts. But talk about nuance! They did a good job of not having ONE CORRECT INTERPRETATION and bludgeoning you over the head with it repeatedly
This may be the most emotionally involved with a video game that I've ever been.
One thought about the ending:
Marlene could have saved herself a great deal of trouble if she'd just lied to Joel. If she'd claimed that Ellie didn't make it, or was brain-dead, or something, she probably would have succeeded in harvesting the fungus from the brain. It makes for a much better game and ending the way it played out, of course. With Marlene's willingness to kill Ellie, however, it would seem she'd have no qualms about misleading Joel.
This has been brought up a couple of times before, but I think the reason is...
Marlene severely underestimates Joel's attachment to Ellie. Remember, the last time she saw them, he took Ellie on begrudgingly, and was clearly unhappy with being saddled with her. She probably assumed that not a lot had changed, and that while he wouldn't be happy about killing a kid, it's just a job to him.
Also
One of her diary recording things you find in the hospital has Marlene mention that Joel is probably the one person besides her who would understand the importance of the situation. She saw no reason to lie to him... boy was that a mistake
It's mostly because at this point Marlene
is a shattered, wrecked, desperate woman who isn't thinking clearly at all. She's already made several bad decisions, I'm not surprised she made another. In some way at some level, in the voice recording, she wanted Joel to agree with the decision to murder Ellie and thus collectively share in the guilt for doing so.
Actually the way she says she just wants it all to be over kind of makes me think at one level she knew exactly what Joel would do (kill everyone there) and welcomed it. If they had developed a cure there would still be an incredibly long road ahead of them. The military would definitely attack them and try to take it, for starters.
Either way, by not telling Joel, she totally got her wish! For her, it is all over. Now she can go be with Anna and tell her how this random smuggler had to fight heroically to keep Marelene from killing Anna's child that Marlene promised to protect. That would be an interesting conversation.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Marlene.
She told Joel to try to get Joel to share in the guilt and shame of killing Ellie. She didn't want that burden to be on her shoulders alone. She didn't want to take responsibility for it.
Contrast that to when Joel DOES lie to Ellie to spare her the guilt, and keep all that burden on his own shoulders and spare Ellie any of the responsibility.
Marlene started off with someone entrusted to her, to care and look after and love, and let the wreck and ruin of the world wear her down so much she was killing to kill that person, when she was the only person on earth who was there to protect her.
Joel started off with nothing, beaten down by the ruin of his life and the world into a more or less emotionless killer. He gets saddled with this kid who is responsible for the death of Tess. Eventually he learns to love again and at the end is willing to stand up for Ellie against the entire world. Eventually, despite all the horrific things they've been through, they've each found each other and have re-created a family of sorts.
I actually did run into a loading screen once, when I backtracked a looooong way to pick up some shiv supplies. (I had like... 3 bandages and 1/2 a knife. Found another half a knife, made a shiv, then wanted to go back and pick up more bandages!)
you might want to spoiler box the last one on your list there
and from what I remember, you have to start a NG+ on whatever difficulty you have unlocked, then bump it up to survivor through the menu as soon as you can in-game (right after the intro maybe?)
No, the trick is to start a NG+ game, finish the first chapter (the prologue), pause as soon as chapter 2 starts, save and exit to the main menu. Then go to chapter select, select the first chapter and then Survivor when the option pops up. You'll start with all your upgrades from your first playthrough and get the Survivor+ trophy when you finish.
Only thing I'm not sure about is if they've patched that work-around out. If it doesn't work, it'd probably be a good idea to exit to the XMB, delete the game data and then play the game offline.
you might want to spoiler box the last one on your list there
and from what I remember, you have to start a NG+ on whatever difficulty you have unlocked, then bump it up to survivor through the menu as soon as you can in-game (right after the intro maybe?)
No, the trick is to start a NG+ game, finish the first chapter (the prologue), pause as soon as chapter 2 starts, save and exit to the main menu. Then go to chapter select, select the first chapter and then Survivor when the option pops up. You'll start with all your upgrades from your first playthrough and get the Survivor+ trophy when you finish.
Only thing I'm not sure about is if they've patched that work-around out. If it doesn't work, it'd probably be a good idea to exit to the XMB, delete the game data and then play the game offline.
Thanks for the detailed post. This is probably a newbie question, but how do I play a specific game off line?
you might want to spoiler box the last one on your list there
and from what I remember, you have to start a NG+ on whatever difficulty you have unlocked, then bump it up to survivor through the menu as soon as you can in-game (right after the intro maybe?)
No, the trick is to start a NG+ game, finish the first chapter (the prologue), pause as soon as chapter 2 starts, save and exit to the main menu. Then go to chapter select, select the first chapter and then Survivor when the option pops up. You'll start with all your upgrades from your first playthrough and get the Survivor+ trophy when you finish.
Only thing I'm not sure about is if they've patched that work-around out. If it doesn't work, it'd probably be a good idea to exit to the XMB, delete the game data and then play the game offline.
Thanks for the detailed post. This is probably a newbie question, but how do I play a specific game off line?
You can't do it with a specific game, you have to go into your network settings and turn it off the connection entirely. I doubt they've patched it out anyway though.
Good God. This game took so long to load yesterday that by the time it finally got to 100% I was already engrossed in Super Mario 3D World and ended up shutting it off.
So far the only thing keeping me going is the Story. I love the characters and the development, but the game isn't really all that fun to play (IMO). Crouch sneak games get really old really fast to me.
I'm especially paranoid my PS3 is going to die while playing the game. I remember when we all joked about the 360 sounding like a jet whenever you played a game off the disc, but the PS3 is so much louder whilst playing this game that it's very distracting.
And another hurdle is that I don't really want to play the game while the baby is around. The story and atmosphere is very important to me and having a crying baby next to me doesn't really help.
I'm especially paranoid my PS3 is going to die while playing the game. I remember when we all joked about the 360 sounding like a jet whenever you played a game off the disc, but the PS3 is so much louder whilst playing this game that it's very distracting.
And another hurdle is that I don't really want to play the game while the baby is around. The story and atmosphere is very important to me and having a crying baby next to me doesn't really help.
Yeah, this game has the potential to make the player cry like a baby already. No need to have two people in the room bawling their eyes out!
Is it me or does the number of bricks and bottles dramatically decrease as the game goes on. I'm having to use my bullets to make it through encounters and I dislike it.
I knew I shouldn't have gotten attached to Sam and Henry. But I was just hoping that they'd make it and we'd just separate.
Also FUCK that sniper and the part where you have to snipe.
I just did this part and agree completely. I have a really hard time tuning out voices so I finally had to turn off the dialog audio.
It's too bad the game doesn't actually let you sneak up on him, the damn cheat.
Didn't care much for thugs appearing from thin air when I went through the alley behind the last house on the right, either. Right in front of my face, even!
And that one guy thought he was clever hiding behind cover forever so I tossed him a drink (he didn't like it much).
After my survivor+ run I went back and played on hard to finish off the collectible, jokes and conversation trophies. After two playthoughs with no listen mode I forgot Joel even had eccolocation as a skill.
Started playing this game on hard in July or so of last year. Didn't make it terribly far, just out of Boston I believe. I thought the characters were interesting enough, but the shooting mechanics felt pretty clumsy and frustrating.
Decided to give it another go after it won every award ever. Switching from hard to normal alleviated a lot of my frustrations, and I played through the rest of the game over the past two weeks. Glad I did - the story is fantastically done, and though the gameplay frustrated me sometimes it definitely gives you a sense of agency in the situation and connection to the characters. That said, I was sort of disappointed with the ending:
Just from unavoidable discussion I knew that Joel was going to make a choice at the end that meant Ellie wouldn't be the cure for the infection. I didn't know she was going to have to die, but that doesn't change a whole lot.
One thing I noticed over the course of the game is it becomes progressively less about the infected and more about humanity and the horrific state it's fallen into (man is the real monster, etc. etc.). As such, I was expecting the storyline at the end to revolve around whether or not humanity was worth saving, and worth the life of one person. The fact that it ultimately boiled down to Joel not wanting to lose a daughter figure for a second time felt frustratingly simplistic.
That said, maybe it's better that way. It paints Joel as a shittier, more selfish human being than he otherwise would have been, and you made him do all of those things. Most games/stories don't go there, and I think that's awesome for the sake of it. But shit, I was just hoping there'd be a better reason.
So, I loaned this to my dad a few months ago in exchange for a copy of Dragon Age. (What? I was done with it...) Now, I am realizing I'm probably going to need the disc for the DLC and that I should have gotten it back from him. Maybe I should just buy another copy.
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One thing I noticed over the course of the game is it becomes progressively less about the infected and more about humanity and the horrific state it's fallen into (man is the real monster, etc. etc.).
The point of most zombie stories isn't how we deal with hundreds of slow-moving, brainless shamblers, but how we deal with each other when civilization breaks down.
-the military patrol you run into with tess and ellie
-the clicker and runners you run into with tess and ellie while they stay up on the ledge
-fighting off all those infested when the only weapon you have is the hunting rifle
Died close to 10 times in each of those places, I would say.
I also don't feel I ever used a smoke bomb well, ever. I tried to throw one into the sniper's nest that one time but it missed and the sniper shot my nose off so I decided not to use them any more.
On the other hand...those molotovs...I used them so much during the more crowded levels with lots of soldiers in body armor. It was almost biblical.."wherever two or three are gathered in my sight, I am there among them".
Where "I" = "fiery Napalm death".
I think a lot of the difficulty people have with the stealth of this game is their desire to kill everything in an area, even when stealthing. In stealth heavy sections, you can get by with minimal/no casualties if you are careful. And, if you are not playing on the harder difficulties you can go on a loud and violent offensive to get past areas. I did that a couple of times in the survivor difficulty, and managed just fine. Never underestimate the power of your fists and/or bricks in combat with anything.
Having said that the last two big areas of the game can be hell on Survivor.
By the time I got to the subway tunnels in Spring, I was down to a couple of rounds for the hunting revolver, two arrows, a shotgun shell, one molotov, and a half tank of flamethrower fuel. You go up against I think three/four bloaters, five or six clickers, and the same amount of normal infected. It took me forever to get past that, as you have to kill everything to continue.
The second area is not as bad, but you are against guys with full auto weaponry, and have very little supplies left over at that point (I'm pretty sure I had no ammo for any of the guns when I started that section.
So, I loaned this to my dad a few months ago in exchange for a copy of Dragon Age. (What? I was done with it...) Now, I am realizing I'm probably going to need the disc for the DLC and that I should have gotten it back from him. Maybe I should just buy another copy.
Are you not able to get it back from him before the 14th?
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-the military patrol you run into with tess and ellie
-the clicker and runners you run into with tess and ellie while they stay up on the ledge
-fighting off all those infested when the only weapon you have is the hunting rifle
Died close to 10 times in each of those places, I would say.
I also don't feel I ever used a smoke bomb well, ever. I tried to throw one into the sniper's nest that one time but it missed and the sniper shot my nose off so I decided not to use them any more.
On the other hand...those molotovs...I used them so much during the more crowded levels with lots of soldiers in body armor. It was almost biblical.."wherever two or three are gathered in my sight, I am there among them".
Where "I" = "fiery Napalm death".
I think a lot of the difficulty people have with the stealth of this game is their desire to kill everything in an area, even when stealthing. In stealth heavy sections, you can get by with minimal/no casualties if you are careful. And, if you are not playing on the harder difficulties you can go on a loud and violent offensive to get past areas. I did that a couple of times in the survivor difficulty, and managed just fine. Never underestimate the power of your fists and/or bricks in combat with anything.
Having said that the last two big areas of the game can be hell on Survivor.
By the time I got to the subway tunnels in Spring, I was down to a couple of rounds for the hunting revolver, two arrows, a shotgun shell, one molotov, and a half tank of flamethrower fuel. You go up against I think three/four bloaters, five or six clickers, and the same amount of normal infected. It took me forever to get past that, as you have to kill everything to continue.
The second area is not as bad, but you are against guys with full auto weaponry, and have very little supplies left over at that point (I'm pretty sure I had no ammo for any of the guns when I started that section.
You don't have to kill anything in the subway. I've made it through in complete stealth on survivor. I honestly can't even imagine trying to clear that out, you are kinda crazy for doing that.
-the military patrol you run into with tess and ellie
-the clicker and runners you run into with tess and ellie while they stay up on the ledge
-fighting off all those infested when the only weapon you have is the hunting rifle
Died close to 10 times in each of those places, I would say.
I also don't feel I ever used a smoke bomb well, ever. I tried to throw one into the sniper's nest that one time but it missed and the sniper shot my nose off so I decided not to use them any more.
On the other hand...those molotovs...I used them so much during the more crowded levels with lots of soldiers in body armor. It was almost biblical.."wherever two or three are gathered in my sight, I am there among them".
Where "I" = "fiery Napalm death".
I think a lot of the difficulty people have with the stealth of this game is their desire to kill everything in an area, even when stealthing. In stealth heavy sections, you can get by with minimal/no casualties if you are careful. And, if you are not playing on the harder difficulties you can go on a loud and violent offensive to get past areas. I did that a couple of times in the survivor difficulty, and managed just fine. Never underestimate the power of your fists and/or bricks in combat with anything.
Having said that the last two big areas of the game can be hell on Survivor.
By the time I got to the subway tunnels in Spring, I was down to a couple of rounds for the hunting revolver, two arrows, a shotgun shell, one molotov, and a half tank of flamethrower fuel. You go up against I think three/four bloaters, five or six clickers, and the same amount of normal infected. It took me forever to get past that, as you have to kill everything to continue.
The second area is not as bad, but you are against guys with full auto weaponry, and have very little supplies left over at that point (I'm pretty sure I had no ammo for any of the guns when I started that section.
You don't have to kill anything in the subway. I've made it through in complete stealth on survivor. I honestly can't even imagine trying to clear that out, you are kinda crazy for doing that.
In complete seriousness: how in the hell did you manage that? My first five-six attempts were trying to stealth it, and someone always caught me, the movement of the water would give me away, or some varaition there in.
Though yeah, I did feel kind of bad-ass after having taken out the entire group.
Playing this on hard wasn't actually that hard because the chance of you dying once you fuck up is so high that it's easier to just put down the controller and dying. If you play this stealthy the biggest problem are regular infected aggroing clickers and bloaters onto you.
If you're clever with bottles and luck you can sneak through most of that section and then just fucking gun it to the plot ladder
Alright I finished it yesterday. The game is fantastic and everyone should play it.
I enjoyed the ending. I do hope we get some sort of sequel though.... Not sure how it would work or how they would pull it off, but I liked this game a lot more than Uncharted.
So, I loaned this to my dad a few months ago in exchange for a copy of Dragon Age. (What? I was done with it...) Now, I am realizing I'm probably going to need the disc for the DLC and that I should have gotten it back from him. Maybe I should just buy another copy.
Are you not able to get it back from him before the 14th?
Asshole lives 3,000 miles away, so we exchange games once a year when we see each other (or through the mail if we get desperate...) Really hoping I get this back by Friday.
I've had The Last of Us loaned out for about half a year, too, and I don't think he's touched it. I should have known better. Friends with babies, they can't get anything done.
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I thought they could see AND use their sonar. Basically I was like "holy fuck. Fuck these guys!"
-the military patrol you run into with tess and ellie
-the clicker and runners you run into with tess and ellie while they stay up on the ledge
-fighting off all those infested when the only weapon you have is the hunting rifle
Died close to 10 times in each of those places, I would say.
I also don't feel I ever used a smoke bomb well, ever. I tried to throw one into the sniper's nest that one time but it missed and the sniper shot my nose off so I decided not to use them any more.
On the other hand...those molotovs...I used them so much during the more crowded levels with lots of soldiers in body armor. It was almost biblical.."wherever two or three are gathered in my sight, I am there among them".
Where "I" = "fiery Napalm death".
PSN: Vorpallion Twitch: Vorpallion
Also also, I was told you could somehow make your second run be survivor NG+, rather than having to play your second time on survivor, and your third time survivor NG+. How do I do this?
PSN: Vorpallion Twitch: Vorpallion
and from what I remember, you have to start a NG+ on whatever difficulty you have unlocked, then bump it up to survivor through the menu as soon as you can in-game (right after the intro maybe?)
Edited it to make it a bit more opaque in case of spoilers!
Hm, so I would do a NG+ on hard, say, complete the first level, that makes sense. I'm not quite sure how to bump up the difficulty level in game though...maybe I should try to find a video walkthrough on this process. I must be missing something obvious.
PSN: Vorpallion Twitch: Vorpallion
If I remember correctly, when I finished the game, New Game+ was a new option (at/near the top) in the main menu. I was also able to select any chapter to play. Do you have multiple saves? Maybe it just loaded an earlier save (and now thinks it's the current playthrough)?
This is an old quote, but I think it's exactly correct.
It is obvious that the Fireflies never asked Ellie if she wanted to undergo the operation. Otherwise when she woke up she would have said "Why am I still alive" not "Why am I wearing hospital scrubs? What happened?" It is quite clear that Ellie was never conscious between the Fireflies finding her and them preparing to kill her. Not only did they not bother to ask her, they asked Marlene as only a cursory formality - and she knows it. Ellie was dead either way. The fireflies are a bunch of desperate terrorists on their last legs, gambling that by murdering this girl maybe they can make something good happen.
So, I think for the whole firefly thing, Ellie was unconscious. That said, Ellie isn't stupid, and I think she has an inkling that some bad stuff went down back in firefly town. (For instance, she probably noticed ALL my molotove cocktails were gone!) She knows Joel pretty well by this point.
She's been fighting like hell the whole time to get to the fireflies (people saying she had a death wish and wanted to die are wrong). I don't think she thought them finding a cure from her would mean her death, for multiple reasons. She tells Joel they can go wherever he wants after they get to the fire flies - but more importantly, if she had known going to the fireflies was certain death, she wouldn't have cared that Tommy and not Joel took her there.
Basically her asking Joel at the end can be taken as "Are we SURE we made the right decisions back there with the fireflies? I know you're hiding something from me" and Joel says "Yes, I did what needed to be done" and she says "Ok" accepting that she doesn't know exactly what happened but she doesn't need to - because she trusts Joel. And Joel lied to spare her unnecessary guilt - telling an impressionable young child who already struggles with survivor's guilt that it's her fault humanity is dying would be downright criminal.
I just think the ending was perfect. It's definitely open to other interpretations, I just think this one best accounts for the facts. But talk about nuance! They did a good job of not having ONE CORRECT INTERPRETATION and bludgeoning you over the head with it repeatedly
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It's mostly because at this point Marlene
Actually the way she says she just wants it all to be over kind of makes me think at one level she knew exactly what Joel would do (kill everyone there) and welcomed it. If they had developed a cure there would still be an incredibly long road ahead of them. The military would definitely attack them and try to take it, for starters.
Either way, by not telling Joel, she totally got her wish! For her, it is all over. Now she can go be with Anna and tell her how this random smuggler had to fight heroically to keep Marelene from killing Anna's child that Marlene promised to protect. That would be an interesting conversation.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Marlene.
She told Joel to try to get Joel to share in the guilt and shame of killing Ellie. She didn't want that burden to be on her shoulders alone. She didn't want to take responsibility for it.
Contrast that to when Joel DOES lie to Ellie to spare her the guilt, and keep all that burden on his own shoulders and spare Ellie any of the responsibility.
Marlene started off with someone entrusted to her, to care and look after and love, and let the wreck and ruin of the world wear her down so much she was killing to kill that person, when she was the only person on earth who was there to protect her.
Joel started off with nothing, beaten down by the ruin of his life and the world into a more or less emotionless killer. He gets saddled with this kid who is responsible for the death of Tess. Eventually he learns to love again and at the end is willing to stand up for Ellie against the entire world. Eventually, despite all the horrific things they've been through, they've each found each other and have re-created a family of sorts.
Marlene is the anti-Joel.
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I actually did run into a loading screen once, when I backtracked a looooong way to pick up some shiv supplies. (I had like... 3 bandages and 1/2 a knife. Found another half a knife, made a shiv, then wanted to go back and pick up more bandages!)
PSN: Vorpallion Twitch: Vorpallion
No, the trick is to start a NG+ game, finish the first chapter (the prologue), pause as soon as chapter 2 starts, save and exit to the main menu. Then go to chapter select, select the first chapter and then Survivor when the option pops up. You'll start with all your upgrades from your first playthrough and get the Survivor+ trophy when you finish.
Only thing I'm not sure about is if they've patched that work-around out. If it doesn't work, it'd probably be a good idea to exit to the XMB, delete the game data and then play the game offline.
Thanks for the detailed post. This is probably a newbie question, but how do I play a specific game off line?
PSN: Vorpallion Twitch: Vorpallion
You can't do it with a specific game, you have to go into your network settings and turn it off the connection entirely. I doubt they've patched it out anyway though.
So far the only thing keeping me going is the Story. I love the characters and the development, but the game isn't really all that fun to play (IMO). Crouch sneak games get really old really fast to me.
After that, it all clicked into place (or perhaps many upgrades had kicked in), and I had trouble stopping myself from playing.
And another hurdle is that I don't really want to play the game while the baby is around. The story and atmosphere is very important to me and having a crying baby next to me doesn't really help.
Yeah, this game has the potential to make the player cry like a baby already. No need to have two people in the room bawling their eyes out!
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Also FUCK that sniper and the part where you have to snipe.
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Didn't care much for thugs appearing from thin air when I went through the alley behind the last house on the right, either. Right in front of my face, even!
Welcome, brother.
Once I finished, I immediately played it on New Game+, and then again on Survival Mode. The latter was almost like a different game.
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Don't mess with Ellie.
Decided to give it another go after it won every award ever. Switching from hard to normal alleviated a lot of my frustrations, and I played through the rest of the game over the past two weeks. Glad I did - the story is fantastically done, and though the gameplay frustrated me sometimes it definitely gives you a sense of agency in the situation and connection to the characters. That said, I was sort of disappointed with the ending:
One thing I noticed over the course of the game is it becomes progressively less about the infected and more about humanity and the horrific state it's fallen into (man is the real monster, etc. etc.). As such, I was expecting the storyline at the end to revolve around whether or not humanity was worth saving, and worth the life of one person. The fact that it ultimately boiled down to Joel not wanting to lose a daughter figure for a second time felt frustratingly simplistic.
That said, maybe it's better that way. It paints Joel as a shittier, more selfish human being than he otherwise would have been, and you made him do all of those things. Most games/stories don't go there, and I think that's awesome for the sake of it. But shit, I was just hoping there'd be a better reason.
I think a lot of the difficulty people have with the stealth of this game is their desire to kill everything in an area, even when stealthing. In stealth heavy sections, you can get by with minimal/no casualties if you are careful. And, if you are not playing on the harder difficulties you can go on a loud and violent offensive to get past areas. I did that a couple of times in the survivor difficulty, and managed just fine. Never underestimate the power of your fists and/or bricks in combat with anything.
Having said that the last two big areas of the game can be hell on Survivor.
The second area is not as bad, but you are against guys with full auto weaponry, and have very little supplies left over at that point (I'm pretty sure I had no ammo for any of the guns when I started that section.
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Though yeah, I did feel kind of bad-ass after having taken out the entire group.
If you're clever with bottles and luck you can sneak through most of that section and then just fucking gun it to the plot ladder
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So do Molotovs, which lead to infected walking into the fire and killing themselves.
Those to, plus a little luck help me stealth that.
I enjoyed the ending. I do hope we get some sort of sequel though.... Not sure how it would work or how they would pull it off, but I liked this game a lot more than Uncharted.
Asshole lives 3,000 miles away, so we exchange games once a year when we see each other (or through the mail if we get desperate...) Really hoping I get this back by Friday.