Wait a fuckin' minute, did they really remove all mention of bioware designing this game? The intros and logos are beamdog and wotc. The credits button takes you to a short list of people from beamdog.
I know most people are aware that this game was originally developed by bioware and released by black isle studios, but this is still bullshit. Beamdog added to 2% of the game with this "enhanced edition" and most of the additions are broken and worthless.
Wait, can anyone actually confirm this? A quick google didn't bring anything up, but you'd think there'd at least be a minor furor if this was real
Well, I mean, they did negotiate the contract with Bioware to use the infinity engine for the second game. If they aren't mentioned in the credits, I don't know if that's a bad thing or not. They could easily rectify that with a simple patch though.
EDIT: Hold that phone: BG2 Tweak pack and Rogue Rebalancing works with the Enhanced Edition of BG2? Oh man, fix the few bad bugs and this game is INFINITELY times better than the original BG2.
Wait a fuckin' minute, did they really remove all mention of bioware designing this game? The intros and logos are beamdog and wotc. The credits button takes you to a short list of people from beamdog.
I know most people are aware that this game was originally developed by bioware and released by black isle studios, but this is still bullshit. Beamdog added to 2% of the game with this "enhanced edition" and most of the additions are broken and worthless.
Wait, can anyone actually confirm this? A quick google didn't bring anything up, but you'd think there'd at least be a minor furor if this was real
I was considering getting it on iOS, but if this is true I may have to rethink that. That's shady as hell.
Wait a fuckin' minute, did they really remove all mention of bioware designing this game? The intros and logos are beamdog and wotc. The credits button takes you to a short list of people from beamdog.
I know most people are aware that this game was originally developed by bioware and released by black isle studios, but this is still bullshit. Beamdog added to 2% of the game with this "enhanced edition" and most of the additions are broken and worthless.
Wait, can anyone actually confirm this? A quick google didn't bring anything up, but you'd think there'd at least be a minor furor if this was real
Maybe I overreacted. The original end credits movie are still probably in the game, I haven't finished the game yet (and won't for a few weeks) so I still haven't seen them. It's just not accessible from the beginning and there is a credits button it just leads two pages of beamdog/atari/wotc names.
Wait a fuckin' minute, did they really remove all mention of bioware designing this game? The intros and logos are beamdog and wotc. The credits button takes you to a short list of people from beamdog.
I know most people are aware that this game was originally developed by bioware and released by black isle studios, but this is still bullshit. Beamdog added to 2% of the game with this "enhanced edition" and most of the additions are broken and worthless.
Wait, can anyone actually confirm this? A quick google didn't bring anything up, but you'd think there'd at least be a minor furor if this was real
I was considering getting it on iOS, but if this is true I may have to rethink that. That's shady as hell.
Beamdog has a splash page. The usual credits are all over the game opening. It's not like they deleted Bioware's involvement.
Wait a fuckin' minute, did they really remove all mention of bioware designing this game? The intros and logos are beamdog and wotc. The credits button takes you to a short list of people from beamdog.
I know most people are aware that this game was originally developed by bioware and released by black isle studios, but this is still bullshit. Beamdog added to 2% of the game with this "enhanced edition" and most of the additions are broken and worthless.
Wait, can anyone actually confirm this? A quick google didn't bring anything up, but you'd think there'd at least be a minor furor if this was real
I was considering getting it on iOS, but if this is true I may have to rethink that. That's shady as hell.
Beamdog has a splash page. The usual credits are all over the game opening. It's not like they deleted Bioware's involvement.
Okay. Still kind of shitty, but that's no too bad.
Man, I didn't actually finished BG:EE because no matter how I try, I just can't bring myself to enjoy low level 2nd edition...but goddamn is BG2 still awesome as shit. I just killed Firkraag after he was all "I look forward to watching your conflict with Irenicus". He won't be watching shit now. I just need to find me a paladin for this here holy avenger.
supposedly all the areas have been reworked from the original renders so they look better than the original game? can anyone confirm this? (i thought all the original assets were lost or something)
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Man, I didn't actually finished BG:EE because no matter how I try, I just can't bring myself to enjoy low level 2nd edition...but goddamn is BG2 still awesome as shit. I just killed Firkraag after he was all "I look forward to watching your conflict with Irenicus". He won't be watching shit now. I just need to find me a paladin for this here holy avenger.
Same reason I didn't care to try BGEE. Just too much variance. Playing anything other than a fighter or cleric is a major exercise in tedium.
I'll probably pick this up and try my hand at an evil play. Which is going to be weird because I primarily stick to good character types.
But the idea of a homicidal bard is appealing to me.
Dorn fits well with the evil party play through; I'l say that right now. All you need to do is just his initial recruitment in BG2:EE
You crash a noble wedding to kill the Priest overseeing the wedding, then you kill all the wedding guests. Bonus points for killing the Bride and Groom.
Hexxat is a little more boring in terms of evil play-through but she had a nice twist to her early on. Plus she's the only pure thief you can keep!
EDIT: Hexxat putting the moves on Viconia? Okay, now it's a party.
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An evil party is eminently doable, especially so with Dorn (I perused a couple BGEE LPs). You've got Viconia, Edwin, Korgan, and eventually Sarevok. With Dorn and the new BG2EE character, an evil party is a pretty easy thing to do.
It's a lot of fun to play a game using the evil 'core' of PC/Viconia/Edwin/Korgan, then just rotate through whatever other good/neutral characters are available. Drop them from the party (or kill them) when they cease to be entertaining. Viconia, Edwin and Korgan are all really effectively min-maxed (at least, they were in the base game), so you can plug almost anything else into that arrangement and be successful. Especially if the PC is at least part thief.
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I think I would try a bard blade kit. I did the old kensai/mage dual class thing back in the day, which was fun, but after reading a bit more about the blade, I think this is more what I'd be after. Lots of spells, lots of attacks, lots of skills. It's been so long since I've played this it would be a pretty new experience for me.
Blade is fun as shit, especially with Rogue Rebalancing giving you *** in Two-Weapon Fighting off the bat, but it suffers a bit early in BG1 and early on in BG2 thanks to Rogue THAC0. When you start getting better buff spells and better equipment, it comes back into its own.
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Do Blades pick up more thief skills as they go? I started one and was disappointed that all he got was pick pockets and hide.
Do Blades pick up more thief skills as they go? I started one and was disappointed that all he got was pick pockets and hide.
Settled on a swashbuckling CN elf.
Blades only have Pickpocketing in BG2, but that pretty much solidifies half-elves being the go to race for bards (due to the pickpocket bonus) and I believe you get a bonus to that since you're sort of encouraged to not wear armor either. And honestly Blades can make good front-liners with the right stats (Haer'Dalis didn't make the best example but he was still useable even with his horridly low CON).
Hm. It looks like custom soundsets are a huge pain in the ass to get working in BGEE, which is a shame because I have a bunch of ones from Icewind Dale that I enjoy using in normal BG, and the new ones added by Beamdog are fucking awful.
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It turns out that the later part Neera's questline in BGE2 is basically all about fighting entire rooms full of wizards. Five or more, spread out and loaded to the eyeballs with paralyze, chaos, fear and hold spells. It is terrible.
I had a fun bug with the new vampire character. An enemy wizard managed to disintegrate her while she was in her cloud form, so she was unable to reform. When I used a raise dead spell she came back as a cloud, unable to do anything.
starting to get into writing out my own journal entries now in the bg2 part. really adding to that rp factor and maybe i'll see the end one day after all.
every time i start these huge mega installs i start at bg1 and get burnt out by the time i get to chapter 2 in bg2. almost killed this install but leaving half a year gap between playing it might have done the trick.
I don't think they're hard, just unfun. I don't like any type of enemy where if I don't prepare I get completely decimated but if I do I don't even have to make any decisions during the actual fight. Same reason I hate fighting mind flayers and vampires, not hard just tedious.
Was the original bgee ever fixed for ipad? I remember waiting about 5 months for aoe spells to not crash my game before uninstalling. I was really unimpressed with the support for that one
Having a lot of fun with this. Is $25? too high? Yeah, probably. But I played this game into the ground 15 years ago and am enjoying a heavy nostalgia fest. The tactical combat holds up surprisingly well and there's more depth of interaction between characters than I remember.
I just realized that with Rasaad we have a character who can use Quivering Palm on dragons to hopefully cheese them, without having to play monk ourselves. Might need to pick him up just to try that... also the fact that monks are really good, so unless his dex or con are ass, in BG2:EE, he should be pretty decent.
My favorite Firkraag kill was always the one where I did all this prep-work and careful layering of buffs and trying to get my timing perfect to maximize my use of everything...
... and then instakilled him with Chromatic Orb, the level 1 spell.
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I was wondering if I could get some advice on my character.
I recently bought BG 1 and 2 in the sales, and am planning on playing through both of them via the Trilogy mod. I've got everything installed just fine, and I'm in Chapter 5 of Bg1 now. I rolled a mage/cleric, but I'm regretting that a bit now.
As we go up in level the amount of buffing-fighting-resting-buffing is getting a bit to me, it gets tedious. I've slapped on some armor which helped, but now of course I can't really use my magic spells (I'm only using identify now). My party consists out of Jaheira, Khalid, Kivan, Coran and Imoen (who duelled to a mage, yay, more resting and buffing!)
Now, I don't mind casting a few long term bufs or buffing up before a big battle, but a mage needs to rest constantly because they have such a limited amount of spells for battle, and then you have to rebuff all over again, and that's what I'm trying to avoid as much as possible.
So I'm thinking of changing my class in Gatekeeper to either a pure cleric, or a paladin.
I know that in BG2 my party will probably consist out of Imoen, Kivan (mod), Keldorn and probably Jaheira, plus one other of the good aligned NPCs. I won't be romancing Anomen, but he can come along of needed, however, with Jaheira in the party he might not be needed.
Is it possible to play with just Imoen (duel-classed at 6) as a mage, or am I making life a lot harder for myself? What class would be best for my character in this scenario? Which good aligned party members (besides the first 3 mentioned) would work well without having to rest-buff-rest too often?
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Heh, forgot how tricky it can be to play an evil party. If your rep gets too low merchants won't sell to you and you constantly get attacked by mercenaries and bounty hunters. So I now alternate my nefarious deeds with visits to the temple to toss in some gold for a quick bit of redemption. Halleluiah fickle and greedy gods! Trying real hard to stay in the area of "disliked".
Having fun tearing crap up with Xzar, Montaron, Viconia, Edwin, and Dorn. A little light on melee muscle... my PC is a swashbuckler and I've got Montaron in armor to help a bit, but we really lean on ole Dorny-poo. The two mages providing artillery support helps quite a bit though. Edwin w/ Ring of Wizardry is hilarious. 6 magic missiles at level 1? Yes please.
I did feel a bit guilty about leading Khalid, Jahira, and Imoen into the forest and then murdering them. But only for a minute.
I dislike that you can use a sling if you have a shield in your offhand, but not if you have a sword :-/
I was wondering if I could get some advice on my character.
I recently bought BG 1 and 2 in the sales, and am planning on playing through both of them via the Trilogy mod. I've got everything installed just fine, and I'm in Chapter 5 of Bg1 now. I rolled a mage/cleric, but I'm regretting that a bit now.
As we go up in level the amount of buffing-fighting-resting-buffing is getting a bit to me, it gets tedious. I've slapped on some armor which helped, but now of course I can't really use my magic spells (I'm only using identify now). My party consists out of Jaheira, Khalid, Kivan, Coran and Imoen (who duelled to a mage, yay, more resting and buffing!)
Now, I don't mind casting a few long term bufs or buffing up before a big battle, but a mage needs to rest constantly because they have such a limited amount of spells for battle, and then you have to rebuff all over again, and that's what I'm trying to avoid as much as possible.
So I'm thinking of changing my class in Gatekeeper to either a pure cleric, or a paladin.
I know that in BG2 my party will probably consist out of Imoen, Kivan (mod), Keldorn and probably Jaheira, plus one other of the good aligned NPCs. I won't be romancing Anomen, but he can come along of needed, however, with Jaheira in the party he might not be needed.
Is it possible to play with just Imoen (duel-classed at 6) as a mage, or am I making life a lot harder for myself? What class would be best for my character in this scenario? Which good aligned party members (besides the first 3 mentioned) would work well without having to rest-buff-rest too often?
The thing with pre-buffing is to just kind of break yourself of the habit of doing it a lot. Few fights truly require a ton of pre-buffing, and when I play a mage I typically just run around with Armor, Stoneskin, and maybe one or two other things. With the Cleric half, you'd probably just be running Aid. Any pre-fight buffs would just be stuff like Bless, Shield, Blur, and Globe of Invulnerability. Everything else goes up either in combat itself, or through sequencers/contingencies. I typically find that only end-chapter bosses or big dungeon bosses really need a lot of intricate buffing to take down. Find a suite of spells that suits you for generalist activities and run with that. Also, look into maybe finding some player-made buffing scripts; they're usually pretty good.
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"Shithouse" is probably a bit much, but his stats are not good, no.
He's got 16/16/14 STR/DEX/CON; WIS doesn't do anything for Monks in BG. Those stats may look good - and for most other classes who aren't equipment-limited, would probably be fine - but due to the way 2e stats work, this means he has the absolute lowest STR you can have while still getting any bonus at all (+1 damage, not even a bonus to THAC0), the second-lowest DEX bonus, and he gets no bonus HP because his CON is so low (which is a problem all the EE NPCs share).
Combine this with the fact that he can wear no armor (his DEX AC bonus combined with the AC bonuses he gets from Monk levels means he's only going to have 5 AC by the BG1 XP cap, which is equivalent to plain chain mail), has no proficiency in a ranged weapon by default, and his fists don't get +1 enchantment level by the XP cap means he's more of a liability than an asset for a very long time.
I've heard he gets some pretty OP gear at points to make up for the fact that Beamdog didn't bother to rebalance Monk to make it worthwhile in BG1, and him being swapped to a Sun Soul kit is a bit nicer (although it means he loses Stunning Blow and Quivering Palm...), but he absolutely needs the Gauntlets of Ogre Power in BG1 to bring himself up to par... and there are many other characters who can make far better use out of them than he.
Also, truth be told, he'll probably be fine in BG2 once he gets some more levels under his belt and unlocks some of the crazier Monk stuff. But in in BG1, he's just not good.
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Wait, can anyone actually confirm this? A quick google didn't bring anything up, but you'd think there'd at least be a minor furor if this was real
EDIT: Hold that phone: BG2 Tweak pack and Rogue Rebalancing works with the Enhanced Edition of BG2? Oh man, fix the few bad bugs and this game is INFINITELY times better than the original BG2.
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I was considering getting it on iOS, but if this is true I may have to rethink that. That's shady as hell.
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Maybe I overreacted. The original end credits movie are still probably in the game, I haven't finished the game yet (and won't for a few weeks) so I still haven't seen them. It's just not accessible from the beginning and there is a credits button it just leads two pages of beamdog/atari/wotc names.
Beamdog has a splash page. The usual credits are all over the game opening. It's not like they deleted Bioware's involvement.
you get used to it.
Okay. Still kind of shitty, but that's no too bad.
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Same reason I didn't care to try BGEE. Just too much variance. Playing anything other than a fighter or cleric is a major exercise in tedium.
I'll probably pick this up and try my hand at an evil play. Which is going to be weird because I primarily stick to good character types.
But the idea of a homicidal bard is appealing to me.
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Hexxat is a little more boring in terms of evil play-through but she had a nice twist to her early on. Plus she's the only pure thief you can keep!
EDIT: Hexxat putting the moves on Viconia? Okay, now it's a party.
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Get attacked in every town you visit!
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that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
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Settled on a swashbuckling CN elf.
Blades only have Pickpocketing in BG2, but that pretty much solidifies half-elves being the go to race for bards (due to the pickpocket bonus) and I believe you get a bonus to that since you're sort of encouraged to not wear armor either. And honestly Blades can make good front-liners with the right stats (Haer'Dalis didn't make the best example but he was still useable even with his horridly low CON).
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I had a fun bug with the new vampire character. An enemy wizard managed to disintegrate her while she was in her cloud form, so she was unable to reform. When I used a raise dead spell she came back as a cloud, unable to do anything.
So far it's going okay!
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
So looks like it's best for me to wait till more of my core are compatible before diving in again.
Is there a list of the new characters/stuff?
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To my everlasting shame, I think the only time I ever killed Firkraag was with the talk bug.
Ok I'm not really ashamed. But it's a good excuse to give it another go.
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Or you can just lay down a shitload of traps and instagib him.
Yeah, I don't really like any of the dragon fights.
every time i start these huge mega installs i start at bg1 and get burnt out by the time i get to chapter 2 in bg2. almost killed this install but leaving half a year gap between playing it might have done the trick.
vanilla dragon fights? hahah please, easy street.
try some scs2 dragons or tactics or that crazy super firkragg mod, then you'll know what pain really is.
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My favourite trick is lower resistance/Doom spam followed by a finger of death.
... and then instakilled him with Chromatic Orb, the level 1 spell.
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I recently bought BG 1 and 2 in the sales, and am planning on playing through both of them via the Trilogy mod. I've got everything installed just fine, and I'm in Chapter 5 of Bg1 now. I rolled a mage/cleric, but I'm regretting that a bit now.
As we go up in level the amount of buffing-fighting-resting-buffing is getting a bit to me, it gets tedious. I've slapped on some armor which helped, but now of course I can't really use my magic spells (I'm only using identify now). My party consists out of Jaheira, Khalid, Kivan, Coran and Imoen (who duelled to a mage, yay, more resting and buffing!)
Now, I don't mind casting a few long term bufs or buffing up before a big battle, but a mage needs to rest constantly because they have such a limited amount of spells for battle, and then you have to rebuff all over again, and that's what I'm trying to avoid as much as possible.
So I'm thinking of changing my class in Gatekeeper to either a pure cleric, or a paladin.
I know that in BG2 my party will probably consist out of Imoen, Kivan (mod), Keldorn and probably Jaheira, plus one other of the good aligned NPCs. I won't be romancing Anomen, but he can come along of needed, however, with Jaheira in the party he might not be needed.
Is it possible to play with just Imoen (duel-classed at 6) as a mage, or am I making life a lot harder for myself? What class would be best for my character in this scenario? Which good aligned party members (besides the first 3 mentioned) would work well without having to rest-buff-rest too often?
Having fun tearing crap up with Xzar, Montaron, Viconia, Edwin, and Dorn. A little light on melee muscle... my PC is a swashbuckler and I've got Montaron in armor to help a bit, but we really lean on ole Dorny-poo. The two mages providing artillery support helps quite a bit though. Edwin w/ Ring of Wizardry is hilarious. 6 magic missiles at level 1? Yes please.
I did feel a bit guilty about leading Khalid, Jahira, and Imoen into the forest and then murdering them. But only for a minute.
I dislike that you can use a sling if you have a shield in your offhand, but not if you have a sword :-/
The thing with pre-buffing is to just kind of break yourself of the habit of doing it a lot. Few fights truly require a ton of pre-buffing, and when I play a mage I typically just run around with Armor, Stoneskin, and maybe one or two other things. With the Cleric half, you'd probably just be running Aid. Any pre-fight buffs would just be stuff like Bless, Shield, Blur, and Globe of Invulnerability. Everything else goes up either in combat itself, or through sequencers/contingencies. I typically find that only end-chapter bosses or big dungeon bosses really need a lot of intricate buffing to take down. Find a suite of spells that suits you for generalist activities and run with that. Also, look into maybe finding some player-made buffing scripts; they're usually pretty good.
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I haven't seen him in a while, are his stats that bad?
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He's got 16/16/14 STR/DEX/CON; WIS doesn't do anything for Monks in BG. Those stats may look good - and for most other classes who aren't equipment-limited, would probably be fine - but due to the way 2e stats work, this means he has the absolute lowest STR you can have while still getting any bonus at all (+1 damage, not even a bonus to THAC0), the second-lowest DEX bonus, and he gets no bonus HP because his CON is so low (which is a problem all the EE NPCs share).
Combine this with the fact that he can wear no armor (his DEX AC bonus combined with the AC bonuses he gets from Monk levels means he's only going to have 5 AC by the BG1 XP cap, which is equivalent to plain chain mail), has no proficiency in a ranged weapon by default, and his fists don't get +1 enchantment level by the XP cap means he's more of a liability than an asset for a very long time.
I've heard he gets some pretty OP gear at points to make up for the fact that Beamdog didn't bother to rebalance Monk to make it worthwhile in BG1, and him being swapped to a Sun Soul kit is a bit nicer (although it means he loses Stunning Blow and Quivering Palm...), but he absolutely needs the Gauntlets of Ogre Power in BG1 to bring himself up to par... and there are many other characters who can make far better use out of them than he.
Also, truth be told, he'll probably be fine in BG2 once he gets some more levels under his belt and unlocks some of the crazier Monk stuff. But in in BG1, he's just not good.
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