Trying to spot the last of the pokedex, if anyone has
Oshawott
Buneary
Vullaby
Shuckle
Tropius
I'd love to hack out a trade of some sort
I have 12 shuckles in my PC Boxes. I collect pokemon from Dream Radar cos they don't cost pokeballs an give me spare pokemon to trade with my Black copy to transfer over my old collection. Anyway if you still want a shuckle I can give you one. Also if anyone has a Pikachu I can have that would be much appreciated.
My White 2 friend code is 0218 8869 0490.
Do you still need one?
I have a Pichu I'm breeding for pokedex data that you can have.
I threw a Pichu his way yesterday; though I think he might have a list of other dudes he needs.
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So my team of Arcanine, Samurott, Lucario, Zoroark, Electabuzz, and Flygon are getting kind of stomped at the Elite 4. I'm thinking of replacing Electabuzz and Flygon with Joltik and Skarmory.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Galvantula with Thunder/Bug Buzz/Volt Switch and Regenerator Mienshao with Hi-Jump Kick/Drain Punch/U-Turn tag-teaming with a couple of defensive pokemon (Jellicent and Magnezone specifically, although Magnezone got curb-stomped by Focus Blast pretty much every single time I tried to switch it in) was my core strategy for the Elite 4 and it worked out pretty well. My other two members, for the record, were Serperior (who's only real job was to eat Earthquakes) and Arcanine (who unfortunately ended up with an extremely awkward physical/special stat distribution and move pool that sadly left him as little more than a suicide Will-o-Wisp throw when Jellicent couldn't manage it; I could have done better with him).
Galvantula should be able to hit faster and harder than Electabuzz (holy crap, is there seriously no "r" in Electabuzz after all these years?) due to its freedom to use Thunder instead of Thunderbolt and Flygon, though a great pokemon on paper, struggles to put together a worthwhile physical movepool without post-game resources, so those substitutions will probably help to some degree. Skarmory will probably be able to avoid most of the problems my Magnezone had due to its flying typing, although you should make sure you have a plan for retaliating against buffed-up rampaging dragon-types in its moveset somewhere.
To be fair, most of the elite four's judicious use of TMs on their mons means that they can usually quite handily counter type advantages if you let them get a move in on you. Type advantage isn't quite enough, you need to either be strong enough to not let them hit you, or tanky enough to survive the inevitable fire blast/whatever.
Moves are pretty important. Although back in Blue, I ended up with only Water and Normal pure attacking moves left before even getting to the Champion. Still made it with brute force and meds.
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The psychic and ghost elite four are a breeze with my Zoroark though I only have two offensive moves and both are physical while Zoroark has a higher special attack stat. My Arcanine does just fine when I need her to and is pretty much my best pokemon. I used Arcanine in the dragon gym and rolled it with outrage.
My Electabuzz has a high attack stat with all special attack moves (well all special attack lightning moves and low kick) so that was my fault and my Flygon just feels useless. The only flying attack it has is Fly along with Dragon Tail, bulldozer, and Hyper Beam. It has a high attack stat but it seems kind of slow in all. Samurott is just there to be there and Lucario is for the dark elite 4.
My Electabuzz and flygon just aren't cutting it though I also don't have much variety in attacks. I'm not really go into this with a "This will be my tank, this will be my sweeper" etc. type mindset. Also, all of the pokemon on my team are 55+
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
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Another random thought: I'd like to see IVs become zero-sum. To maintain data compatibility with previous generations, there would still be a 0-31 value for each IV, but if the total was higher than baseline value, the effect would be normalized down to the average, and likewise for IV totals that were lower than the baseline; their effect would be normalized up, if at all possible.
Nothing turns me away from the competitive battle scene more than the thought that I'll be fighting with a handicap because I'm unwilling to hatch a hundred eggs or reverse-engineer the game's randomizer to learn what magic gestures will produce the perfect result.
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Zero-sum EVs would be an interesting balance change, but the backwards-compatibility hit would be probably be too serious for it to be worth it. Under that proposal, people who spent dozens of hours breeding the best possible stats would pretty much see them get turned into perfectly average stats (considerably worse than what would be achievable with only minor effort from then on out), which would be kind of mean.
Although it would be nice to see IV breeding made a lot easier, or IV ranges rescaled to only the top or bottom half of the current ranges, or something to make it less significant.
I've never been in favour of the Light-type idea. Many other types have light-based moves, and Dark only has a few arguably darkness-based ones. Like Sunny Day boosts Moonlight because it's "clear skies" in japan, a Light-type would be awkward because Dark is "evil" in Japan.
First and last time I tried to seriously breed was in Diamond and somehow I missed that the children would get a couple IVs from their parents, so I spent hours (days?) making eggs from the same two parents with crap IVs, looking only for the right natures.
Yeah that turned me off of the whole thing pretty hard.
First and last time I tried to seriously breed was in Diamond and somehow I missed that the children would get a couple IVs from their parents, so I spent hours (days?) making eggs from the same two parents with crap IVs, looking only for the right natures.
Yeah that turned me off of the whole thing pretty hard.
If you ever decide to come back, I have some perfect Japanese Dittos you can have.
I was crazy enough in Diamond to breed like a bazillion Raltses to get a Synchronizer of every nature, and then I used those to catch a Ditto of every nature, so now I never have to worry about nature-breeding again. And IV breeding is at least a little less painful in B/W thanks to the NPC who gives you some overall ideas about a pokemon's IVs and the Power items that guarantee that a specific stat gets passed down (plus the fact that Everstone nature inheritance is now 100% instead of 50%).
First and last time I tried to seriously breed was in Diamond and somehow I missed that the children would get a couple IVs from their parents, so I spent hours (days?) making eggs from the same two parents with crap IVs, looking only for the right natures.
Yeah that turned me off of the whole thing pretty hard.
If you ever decide to come back, I have some perfect Japanese Dittos you can have.
I don't even remember what the significance of that is. What is it, they have all 31s and they always produce the pokemon they mate with?
Maybe I just wasn't active enough in the forum community, asking for trades and such.
I am totally getting back in for X and Y, this is going to be a significant game!
First and last time I tried to seriously breed was in Diamond and somehow I missed that the children would get a couple IVs from their parents, so I spent hours (days?) making eggs from the same two parents with crap IVs, looking only for the right natures.
Yeah that turned me off of the whole thing pretty hard.
If you ever decide to come back, I have some perfect Japanese Dittos you can have.
I don't even remember what the significance of that is. What is it, they have all 31s and they always produce the pokemon they mate with?
Maybe I just wasn't active enough in the forum community, asking for trades and such.
I am totally getting back in for X and Y, this is going to be a significant game!
That's right, but offspring will inherit three IVs from its parents, but it can be two from one and one from the other, or whatever.
First time I pussyfooted into breeding was some time during 3rd Gen, my goal being to maintain the precious TMs I'd been teaching my mons by chainbreeding them down through generations. I knew about EVs and IVs, but I didn't really care about that sort of thing - for me, the goal was simply to get as much juice out of the few good TMs I could amass.
Thank god I don't have to do that shit anymore.
Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.
Incidentally, the limit of three inherited IVs means that even if you had two flawless parents, the odds of getting a perfect offspring is still only something like one in 32,000. Actually a fair bit less, since it's possible for the same stat to be chosen multiple times for your three inheritance slots (reducing the total number passed down), but I don't know how to calculate that off the top of my head.
Even with a bunch of Dittos with perfect IVs in a single stat (I think I have one for each except maybe Special Defense), I still usually just shoot for one or two perfect IVs and then like 20+ in other relevant stats if I can manage it. Being a few points short in an offensive or defensive stat is rarely the end of the world (though for speed it kind of can be if you're really serious about it).
EDIT: Ha, I did the same thing with TMs in 3rd gen. I spent so much time looking up breeding chains to figure out what father could get Earthquake on the most possible options. Infinite TMs is probably why I suddenly felt like I had room to care about IVs when I never did before.
I seem to remember that even in 3rd gen, they inherited three IVs, but I can't tell if I'm just remembering it wrong and I don't have access to RNG Reporter on this computer.
IV breeding in Gen III that isn't Emerald is so not worth it. Breeding in D/P/P is also a bit of a pain compared to B/W/B2/W2, since the latter has a few advancements. I assume X/Y will also have a few improvements that will make breeding more seamless.
The problem with breeding offspring is that there are so many factors if you're fussy about these sort off things: egg moves, ability, IVs, gender. The stat Speed is for a multitude of reasons a matter of life and death, but HP can be important too. Tyranitar for example has a 100 base HP stat. The maximum HP it can achieve is 404 HP, but that is with a perfect HP IV. The reason people shoot for that is because a) you heal one more HP point with 400 HP than 399 HP with Leftovers; b) 400 is divisible by 8 and 16, meaning it could die by weather and status effects one turn sooner than if it had 401 HP; and 3) 404 HP lets it create 101 HP Substitutes and there are moves that deal exactly 100 damage, so it'll not break with the max possible HP.
That's partly why to be more efficient in breeding, it pays off to prepare for breeding and not breed from scratch with junk parents. Catching synchronizers to catch Dittos with the right is a first step. It also pays off to earn Battle Points and get the Power items. Not only are they useful for EV training, they're also crucial in breeding IVs as of Gen V. Knowing the egg groups is also relevant for the purpose of passing down egg moves. Usually a Pokemon will have more than one option to obtain an egg move. It can save time if you pick the one that is useful for future breeding, depending of course on what Pokemon you like to breed. Lastly, a number of species have a male/female ratio that isn't 50/50 for some reason (what a cruel joke by Arceus). Having Dittos will help since they will always act as the mother (even when breeding with a female). Have it hold an Everstone to pass down its nature (either 100% or 50% depending on version).
Breeding can be rewarding. It just requires a bit of preparation and effort. It's more fun than EV training in my opinion, since breeding is kind of like a lottery, whereas EV training is just about getting the right numbers.
I bred a 30/31/31/31/31/29 Hippopotas and a 29/31/31/31/31/25 Drilbur yesterday. Team Rocksolid is gonna be great.
Took hours, watched (almost) an entire season of Castle while breeding the little shits. I really, really hope the gen 6 games expose IVs in-game. I don't care if it confuses kids, just hide it in an obscure menu screen somewhere.
Breeding can be rewarding. It just requires a bit of preparation and effort. It's more fun than EV training in my opinion, since breeding is kind of like a lottery, whereas EV training is just about getting the right numbers.
Woah, I feel the exact opposite. I don't feel rewarded when I've spent so much time it turned painful. It's like doing the most boring and time-consuming job that I can imagine, and you're not getting paid, nor are you rewarded with the promise that most IVs will be good after spending days breeding.
First and last time I tried to seriously breed was in Diamond and somehow I missed that the children would get a couple IVs from their parents, so I spent hours (days?) making eggs from the same two parents with crap IVs, looking only for the right natures.
Yeah that turned me off of the whole thing pretty hard.
According to Sporky, letting the same parents breed over and over again and expecting a different result :P
It's kind of wonky; it took me a couple of tries to figure out what was happening.
Basically, you connect your 3DS to your wifi. Then you boot up one of the Gen 5 games and it should just work once you get the C Gear, no set up necessary.
You DON'T have to configure the DS wifi within the game, so stop doing that if that's what you're doing.
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I threw a Pichu his way yesterday; though I think he might have a list of other dudes he needs.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
What are the levels of your Pokemon?
Galvantula should be able to hit faster and harder than Electabuzz (holy crap, is there seriously no "r" in Electabuzz after all these years?) due to its freedom to use Thunder instead of Thunderbolt and Flygon, though a great pokemon on paper, struggles to put together a worthwhile physical movepool without post-game resources, so those substitutions will probably help to some degree. Skarmory will probably be able to avoid most of the problems my Magnezone had due to its flying typing, although you should make sure you have a plan for retaliating against buffed-up rampaging dragon-types in its moveset somewhere.
Where exactly are you running into trouble?
Muteon, btw.
*shakes fist*
The only reason I put myself through the torture of IV, nature and ability breeding is because the work pays off across multiple games.
My Electabuzz has a high attack stat with all special attack moves (well all special attack lightning moves and low kick) so that was my fault and my Flygon just feels useless. The only flying attack it has is Fly along with Dragon Tail, bulldozer, and Hyper Beam. It has a high attack stat but it seems kind of slow in all. Samurott is just there to be there and Lucario is for the dark elite 4.
My Electabuzz and flygon just aren't cutting it though I also don't have much variety in attacks. I'm not really go into this with a "This will be my tank, this will be my sweeper" etc. type mindset. Also, all of the pokemon on my team are 55+
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Nothing turns me away from the competitive battle scene more than the thought that I'll be fighting with a handicap because I'm unwilling to hatch a hundred eggs or reverse-engineer the game's randomizer to learn what magic gestures will produce the perfect result.
Although it would be nice to see IV breeding made a lot easier, or IV ranges rescaled to only the top or bottom half of the current ranges, or something to make it less significant.
Yeah that turned me off of the whole thing pretty hard.
I don't even remember what the significance of that is. What is it, they have all 31s and they always produce the pokemon they mate with?
Maybe I just wasn't active enough in the forum community, asking for trades and such.
I am totally getting back in for X and Y, this is going to be a significant game!
That's right, but offspring will inherit three IVs from its parents, but it can be two from one and one from the other, or whatever.
Thank god I don't have to do that shit anymore.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
Even with a bunch of Dittos with perfect IVs in a single stat (I think I have one for each except maybe Special Defense), I still usually just shoot for one or two perfect IVs and then like 20+ in other relevant stats if I can manage it. Being a few points short in an offensive or defensive stat is rarely the end of the world (though for speed it kind of can be if you're really serious about it).
EDIT: Ha, I did the same thing with TMs in 3rd gen. I spent so much time looking up breeding chains to figure out what father could get Earthquake on the most possible options. Infinite TMs is probably why I suddenly felt like I had room to care about IVs when I never did before.
I never finished the postgame island. Or whatever you could do there...I never finished catching all the old pokes you could get there or something.
I could also borrow my sister's GBA Leaf Green and get a bunch of old ones from there.
The problem with breeding offspring is that there are so many factors if you're fussy about these sort off things: egg moves, ability, IVs, gender. The stat Speed is for a multitude of reasons a matter of life and death, but HP can be important too. Tyranitar for example has a 100 base HP stat. The maximum HP it can achieve is 404 HP, but that is with a perfect HP IV. The reason people shoot for that is because a) you heal one more HP point with 400 HP than 399 HP with Leftovers; b) 400 is divisible by 8 and 16, meaning it could die by weather and status effects one turn sooner than if it had 401 HP; and 3) 404 HP lets it create 101 HP Substitutes and there are moves that deal exactly 100 damage, so it'll not break with the max possible HP.
That's partly why to be more efficient in breeding, it pays off to prepare for breeding and not breed from scratch with junk parents. Catching synchronizers to catch Dittos with the right is a first step. It also pays off to earn Battle Points and get the Power items. Not only are they useful for EV training, they're also crucial in breeding IVs as of Gen V. Knowing the egg groups is also relevant for the purpose of passing down egg moves. Usually a Pokemon will have more than one option to obtain an egg move. It can save time if you pick the one that is useful for future breeding, depending of course on what Pokemon you like to breed. Lastly, a number of species have a male/female ratio that isn't 50/50 for some reason (what a cruel joke by Arceus). Having Dittos will help since they will always act as the mother (even when breeding with a female). Have it hold an Everstone to pass down its nature (either 100% or 50% depending on version).
Breeding can be rewarding. It just requires a bit of preparation and effort. It's more fun than EV training in my opinion, since breeding is kind of like a lottery, whereas EV training is just about getting the right numbers.
Took hours, watched (almost) an entire season of Castle while breeding the little shits. I really, really hope the gen 6 games expose IVs in-game. I don't care if it confuses kids, just hide it in an obscure menu screen somewhere.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
Woah, I feel the exact opposite. I don't feel rewarded when I've spent so much time it turned painful. It's like doing the most boring and time-consuming job that I can imagine, and you're not getting paid, nor are you rewarded with the promise that most IVs will be good after spending days breeding.
Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
According to Sporky, letting the same parents breed over and over again and expecting a different result :P
Awww Squirtles. So cute. NOW HAVE SEX PAPA NEEDS HIS EGGS GO GO.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
Gen 5 games play nice with 3DS wifi settings!
Basically, you connect your 3DS to your wifi. Then you boot up one of the Gen 5 games and it should just work once you get the C Gear, no set up necessary.
You DON'T have to configure the DS wifi within the game, so stop doing that if that's what you're doing.