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Gamepad for Pc

RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
I've been holding off on buying a game pad for a whole but I realize I been going in circles and should make a decision.

Choices by Preference
#1 PS3 controller hacked through Bluetooth
Pro: I like the controller's feel from the ps2 days
Con: this would be a hack (un reliable in some cases) and is expensive

#2 Logitec pc controller
Pro: not that expensive and designed for pc use
Cons:i dunno how it feels and wasn't designed with the same budget As #1 & #3

#3:360 controller through those wireless hubs
Pro: I have a 360 controller so this is the.cheapest option to buy a hub
Con: i am not fond of the controller.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Since you're weird and don't like the 360 I'd go with the Logitech.

  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Don't get a Logitech F310, I made the mistake of buying one and it's mostly unusable for the kind of games I wanted to play. It has a deadzone which occupies a third or more of the analog stick radius which means that you won't be able to do quick, fine movements. The button and d-pad quality is also rather shoddy.

    [edit] "A third or more" is a safe estimate in this case. It seemed more like a half.

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  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    I use a PS2 controller through a PS2-to-USB converter. Works flawlessly. I got mine (which has two controller ports on it, so it supports two players per adapter) at Fry's Electronics for $10. In fact, I got two of them. Because I could. Works great. I did also try a PS3 controller via Motioninjoy and it worked fine I think, but since my PS3 controller doesn't have vibration I preferred the heavier feel of the PS2 controller and went back to that. I don't think it's super-buggy, but you should try to use whatever controller you already have if you're worried about price.

    I also happen to have a Logitech controller from before I realized they sold those converters in brick-and-mortar stores, and it... well, it functions. I don't really like the texture or the button feel very much though, and I doubt that's changed much in the newer models. My particular controller's deadzone was fine, but the analog was in a SQUARE well for some reason, which was retarded, but that's not a problem for the controller you're looking at. To be honest my biggest complaint about a Logitech controller would be that freaking d-pad that seems to be very similar on the modern controller. It's just... no. It's not good. Diagonals feel weird on it. The 360 has a similar style of control pad but it feels much more smooth. Maybe you don't use the d-pad that much so it wouldn't be a problem for you, but I play a lot of platformers on PC so that's not so good.

  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I also owned other Logitech gamepads (from around 2003, 2006) before I got the F310 and the d-pad on the newer model definitely feels worse because it's more raised and pivots more strongly.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Does the PS2 to USB converter work with a wireless PS2 controller?

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  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    I also owned other Logitech gamepads (from around 2003, 2006) before I got the F310 and the d-pad on the newer model definitely feels worse because it's more raised and pivots more strongly.

    Yeah I think I got mine in 2008. So you mean it's WORSE now? Well, wow then. Almost makes me miss my old Sidewinder that stopped working after XP. Or even the other Microsoft gamepad I used after that that didn't have enough buttons.
    Does the PS2 to USB converter work with a wireless PS2 controller?

    That's a definite maybe! I dunno, if it plugs into the converter and gets enough power, I don't see any reason it shouldn't work. And realistically, if it didn't work, "it doesn't work" is a decent reason to return something. :P Do official wireless PS2 controllers actually exist? I hadn't even thought about the fact that somebody must have made a 3rd-party controller that did wireless. I mean I guess the official Wavebird was around during the same generation and all though.

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    I own and use a Logitech F310, and it totally works fine. I don't have the dead zone problems that an earlier poster mentioned, and I do about 50% of my gaming on PS3, so one would think that I'd notice. The D-pad does not feel the same as a SIXAXIS, though.

    I've also used a PS2 to USB adapter for my fightstick on both PS3 and PC. Driver support for PC is a bit sketchy(some games don't let you assign all the appropriate buttons), but when it works, it works well. So that's another option.

    The gold standard is still a wired 360 controller, in terms of support in games on PC. The Logitech F310 uses the same drivers as a wired 360 pad (at least on my rig), so it works on all games that support the 360 pad.

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  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    I've also used a PS2 to USB adapter for my fightstick on both PS3 and PC. Driver support for PC is a bit sketchy(some games don't let you assign all the appropriate buttons), but when it works, it works well. So that's another option.

    I've only personally had any problems with my specific adapter (it's made of semi-transparent blue plastic, I'll take a look at it tomorrow to figure out who made it) when the game supports JUST the 360 controller (which is awful design by the way). Sometimes the mappings will be all illogical and unchangeable because they're nice enough to at least recognize you have a controller, sometimes it just won't let you map anything at all because it's not seeing a 360 controller. But this is pretty rare, thankfully, and any games before the 360 controller was ubiquitous should play nice. There also exist tools to spoof a 360 controller for any controller, but I haven't actually messed around with that because it's almost never been a concern. I know the Motioninjoy driver for PS3 controllers has a mode that does it, but that doesn't help with other controllers of course.

  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    I bought the Logitech Dual Action pad for playing fighting games (casually) and sidescrollers.I have no complaints about it; it's rugged, it was inexpensive, and it has plenty of buttons. Biggest drawback for me is that the face buttons look a bit dumb.

    What games are you looking to play with the pad?

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Unless you really hate the 360 controller I'd go with that. It's pretty much the standard at this point.

  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    The Ender wrote: »
    I bought the Logitech Dual Action pad for playing fighting games (casually) and sidescrollers.I have no complaints about it; it's rugged, it was inexpensive, and it has plenty of buttons. Biggest drawback for me is that the face buttons look a bit dumb.

    That is literally the exact controller I was talking about actually. With the square analog well and everything. It certainly WORKS, and it's not really super-bad for a controller, but I don't like the grip on the sides very much (though I'd like it more if I sweat a lot, which I don't) and like I said, not a fan of the d-pad or the square analog. The face buttons are fine (and hey, the numbering makes them easy to assign in games), but I greatly prefer other controllers due to liking something that handles diagonals more smoothly. I understand what they were going for with the square analog-- trying to make diagonals easier to hit precisely-- but why didn't they just go with an octagon like the Gamecube controller? THAT works. With the square I sometimes have trouble hitting pure left or right (maybe because I'm used to a circular/octagonal well, I admit) which means it doesn't quite work. For me anyway. The d-pad kind of clicks into the controller when you press it, and feels sort of like it's pivoting when you press a diagonal, to explain what I don't like about it. It feels too stiff and imprecise on the diagonals. I will give you that the controller will probably never break, though, so there's that. :P

    But that's just me. I do agree that the 360 controller would be the typical suggestion. I think the 360 controller is fine, don't have any complaints about it personally. The d-pad is made in a style that would make you think it would feel more like the Logitech one but it's actually very smooth on the diagonals. I personally think I prefer a PSX controller of any sort, but the 360 controller definitely works. Not like the original XBox controller. :P

  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Blight on Discourse Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    If you are playing a Games For Windows Live game that defaults to the 360 mappings is it even possible not to use a 360 controller or some kind of mimic? I remember this being a problem when they first started doing this four or five years ago. Why I finally had to ditch my my old faithful Logitech controller.

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    The newer Logitech controllers have both direct input and x-input support, so they work with pretty much everything. I don't like xbox controllers, so I use a Logitech f310 these days and it works fine for me.

  • ThrackThrack Registered User regular
    After my second Razer Onza started wearing out I hooked up a Dual Shock 3 controller to my PC using MotioninJoy. I have it set to 360 controller emulation mode so Windows detects it perfectly, but it did involve installing hacked drivers for the controller and the BlueTooth adapter and was a bit of a pain to get paired initially. I also already had the controller and the BT adapter, so I wasn't out anything if it didn't work.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    So i went with @Essee 's suggestion of the PS2 adapter, since I have a new wireless controller I have yet to unpack.

    My brother announced his intent to fly overseas so the XBOX controllers will go with him. Thank you all for your advice.

    edit: [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AATQ0Y/ref=cm_cr_rev_prod_title"PS2 adapter from Amazon[/url] came without drivers.

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