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Diablo 3:Economics- It's not rocket science.

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    shadowane wrote: »
    Incindium wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    It's impossible to sell gear right now, wait till after the patch.

    Why would it be easier to sell after the patch? whats in the patch?

    More people playing again.
    Though with the gear changes, it may be more difficult to sell some stuff.

    Anything major to note? I haven't checked out patch notes yet.

  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    shadowane wrote: »
    Incindium wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    It's impossible to sell gear right now, wait till after the patch.

    Why would it be easier to sell after the patch? whats in the patch?

    More people playing again.
    Though with the gear changes, it may be more difficult to sell some stuff.

    More idiots too, though. Definitely a net gain.

  • shadowaneshadowane Registered User regular
    shadowane wrote: »
    Incindium wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    It's impossible to sell gear right now, wait till after the patch.

    Why would it be easier to sell after the patch? whats in the patch?

    More people playing again.
    Though with the gear changes, it may be more difficult to sell some stuff.

    Anything major to note? I haven't checked out patch notes yet.
    I think 1.0.8 is bringing better rare drops with tighter stat ranges. So instead of rolling 1-100 for strength, it would be 75-100. Not 100% sure though.

  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    Chen wrote: »
    Besides, a Tal ammy with crit can beat trifectas because of the huge int roll and free elemental damage. Only the near perfect rolls outshine Tal's ammy, but those are obviously not nearly as affordable.

    Speaking of which I checked the prices on a 7% crit tal's ammy and you can get them for 12m now; crazy. Last I checked it was 80m or something.

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    I just sold a Vile Ward that I bought for 40 mil for $9.99. I say it's still easier to flip items, and it only takes like 30 minutes to compare prices between gold/RMAH and then buy/sell a full list.

  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Incindium wrote: »
    Chen wrote: »
    Good God.

    Evaluating gear on the AH is essential to improve your character for the lowest possible cost. Example, I have these two rings:
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    Which one gives more paper DPS? (Hint: it's not the trifecta)

    There might even be a case that the first ring is better for CM Wizards, since it has high LoH.

    Ares, a Wizard with the highest unbuffed DPS in Europe, uses a Tal ammy without IAS.

    Trifectas are overrated.

    Base damage on rings is very overlooked stat for DPS. For example look at the Oculus I have equipped on my char. The only Oculus rings that do more damage than the crazy base damage roll on mine are ones with 6% CC (which I need to upgrade to when I can grab one cheap).

    May not be so overlooked once people are able to directly see the effect of an item on their dps etc in the new patch.

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
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  • Saint JusticeSaint Justice Mercenary Mah-vel Baybee!!!Registered User regular
    I'll be on tonight around 10pm CST if anyone's down for ubers. I've got some infernal machines burning a hole in my pocket.

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    I'll be on tonight around 10pm CST if anyone's down for ubers. I've got some infernal machines burning a hole in my pocket.

    Shitty. I've got three on deck too, but I'm busy until well after that.

  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    I changed some stuff around and blew about 300M on upgrades. Now packing over 300k dps (with BR). If I can somehow roll a decent hellfire ring I will be very happy. That and getting a nice crit mempo of course.

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    I'm always up for ubers. Add me if you haven't - Furie#1280.

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited April 2013
    Chen wrote: »
    Evaluating gear on the AH is essential to improve your character for the lowest possible cost.
    or, you could get more gold

    you are presenting a false dichotomy based on your budget. a truly endgame DPS ring would have big int, avg dmg, crit, CHD, and IAS

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Matz wrote: »
    I changed some stuff around and blew about 300M on upgrades. Now packing over 300k dps (with BR). If I can somehow roll a decent hellfire ring I will be very happy. That and getting a nice crit mempo of course.

    yo matz why you gotta do so much damage for

    why you making me look like a chump

  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    is that 300k with wotb also on, because if not that is ridiculous

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    Beasteh wrote: »
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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    I was about to say, I clearly need to step up my game if DPS values can get to 300k.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited April 2013
    Chen wrote: »
    Evaluating gear on the AH is essential to improve your character for the lowest possible cost.
    or, you could get more gold

    you are presenting a false dichotomy based on your budget. a truly endgame DPS ring would have big int, avg dmg, crit, CHD, and IAS

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    like this guy




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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    a truly endgame DPS ring would have big int, avg dmg, crit, CHD, and IAS

    That's nice. Now how is that going to help him improve his Wizard?

    You're like the guy who recommends crafting a godly ammy over getting a Mara's or a 2/20/2 crafted circlet over a Shako.

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  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    is that 300k with wotb also on, because if not that is ridiculous

    250-300k DPS buffed is what I run with as well. WOTB up I saw 650k-700k DPS last night I think.

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  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    is that 300k with wotb also on, because if not that is ridiculous

    No - that's simply with Battle Rage (which since it is on all the time is a reasonable assessment). No Wotb or anything else. Its also with my crap hellfire. When I do ubers I swap that out for a much better ring...

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Incindium wrote: »
    is that 300k with wotb also on, because if not that is ridiculous

    250-300k DPS buffed is what I run with as well. WOTB up I saw 650k-700k DPS last night I think.

    Wow - I haven't used WoTB for a long time. That would be interesting to see...

    5 Stacks of Frenzy also raises the dps quite a bit higher than 300k too.

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    Lose: The opposite of win
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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    When I have all my buffs going I peak out at just over 300K damage, but unbuffed it's less than half that.

    I don't even know what I'd need to do to get my WD up to 200K damage unbuffed:

    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rolo-1964/hero/3142911

    Need to shop around for a decent 5-6% crit zuni's vision, don't really want to trade blackthorn's for a witching hour, and a higher CC tal's ammy is way outside my budget. Not sure where to go next.


  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    Matz wrote: »
    Incindium wrote: »
    is that 300k with wotb also on, because if not that is ridiculous

    250-300k DPS buffed is what I run with as well. WOTB up I saw 650k-700k DPS last night I think.

    Wow - I haven't used WoTB for a long time. That would be interesting to see...

    5 Stacks of Frenzy also raises the dps quite a bit higher than 300k too.

    Yeah I'm talking buffed with 5 stacks of Frenzy puts me around 250k... Add Brawler's 30% and its above 300k. WOTB more than doubles that number... Have to check to see how high I can get it to peak at.

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  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Goddamn barbs are op

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    Beasteh wrote: »
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    Brolo
  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Chen wrote: »
    a truly endgame DPS ring would have big int, avg dmg, crit, CHD, and IAS

    That's nice. Now how is that going to help him improve his Wizard?

    You're like the guy who recommends crafting a godly ammy over getting a Mara's or a 2/20/2 crafted circlet over a Shako.
    i didn't recommend anything to anyone

    i just said it's a good stat for archon

    which it is

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  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Incindium wrote: »
    Matz wrote: »
    Incindium wrote: »
    is that 300k with wotb also on, because if not that is ridiculous

    250-300k DPS buffed is what I run with as well. WOTB up I saw 650k-700k DPS last night I think.

    Wow - I haven't used WoTB for a long time. That would be interesting to see...

    5 Stacks of Frenzy also raises the dps quite a bit higher than 300k too.

    Yeah I'm talking buffed with 5 stacks of Frenzy puts me around 250k... Add Brawler's 30% and its above 300k. WOTB more than doubles that number... Have to check to see how high I can get it to peak at.

    I used to run Brawler. I should put that back in. It would work really well on high MP with Ground Stomp/Wrenching smash which draws all the mobs in close. I wasn't counting Frenzy or anything else like that in the 300k but it would be interesting to see what I could get dps to peak at.

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    HexDex wrote: »
    Chen wrote: »

    It's not rocket science.

    That should be the new thread title. OP owner get on it.

    Diablo 3: It's not rocket science.

    Boo!

    More economics / spreadsheet jokes!

  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Incidentally if anyone has the annoying problem that I have had a couple of times of items purchased on the gold AH not showing up in your completed items (and clearing completed items, switching between gold and RMAH, re-logging etc doesn't work) I did find a fix - basically just do an AH search of items with a max buy out of 1k gold. Start buying stuff. Usually takes no more than 5 or 6 purchases and it eventually shows up.

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • HexDexHexDex Registered User regular
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    Best of both worlds.

    haha. Excellent.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Yay. Spending half an hour on the AH to upgrade some items and I can beat Inferno MP4 Butcher! Of course, going from 40k to 90-100k DPS should probably make this unsurprising.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    edited April 2013
    God damn, what the hell is going on with gem prices?

    You would think the players selling the gems would up the price of them because they're in high demand? Or am I stupid?

    *Edited to not sound mean.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    God damn, what the hell is going on with gem prices?

    You would think the idiots selling the gems would up the price of them because they're in high demand? Or am I stupid?

    That's what I said! The first sentence, not the second.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    coolio

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    God damn, what the hell is going on with gem prices?

    You would think the players selling the gems would up the price of them because they're in high demand? Or am I stupid?

    *Edited to not sound mean.

    The pool of gold buyers is drying up. So, people are trying to cash out gold (through gems), meaning excess gems on the market, meaning prices drop. The demand isn't necessarily high, and the supply could be excessive right now.

  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Matz wrote: »
    Incindium wrote: »
    Matz wrote: »
    Incindium wrote: »
    is that 300k with wotb also on, because if not that is ridiculous

    250-300k DPS buffed is what I run with as well. WOTB up I saw 650k-700k DPS last night I think.

    Wow - I haven't used WoTB for a long time. That would be interesting to see...

    5 Stacks of Frenzy also raises the dps quite a bit higher than 300k too.

    Yeah I'm talking buffed with 5 stacks of Frenzy puts me around 250k... Add Brawler's 30% and its above 300k. WOTB more than doubles that number... Have to check to see how high I can get it to peak at.

    I used to run Brawler. I should put that back in. It would work really well on high MP with Ground Stomp/Wrenching smash which draws all the mobs in close. I wasn't counting Frenzy or anything else like that in the 300k but it would be interesting to see what I could get dps to peak at.

    OK - with WoTB, Brawler and 5 stacks of Frenzy:

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    Now replace one of your other non-damage boosting abilities and use Bash with the rune that up's damage! Try to break a million!

    Battletag BYToady#1454
  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    That's tempting... I should also try and track down a Frenzy shrine...

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • Jacks_ColonJacks_Colon Registered User regular
    I've never been a heavy min/maxer but I want to start upping the ol' DPS. How should I be gearing up? Also are there any particular builds I should be gearing for?

    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SignScratch-1495/hero/25914698

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  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Ok - not 100% sure if I had the full bash buff on or not (or whether I also had Brawler) but certainly had WoTB and 5 Frenzy and got:

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Holy crap Brawler is sexy to run with the new gear. One-cleaving huge packs of trash at MP8

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    _J_ wrote: »
    I imagine that I make more money from D3 than I would make sucking dick. But I wouldn't want to spend either my D3 or dick sucking money on gear.
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