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[Industry Thread] Impossible Games sets the speed record for studio closure

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Except...it hasn't been mauled.

    I've played all the DMCs except for 2 since I heard it sucked...and yeah...its a DMC game. If anything I would say it does something new while staying faithful to the series.

    So yeah...still looks like internet bitching to me.

    Yes, because a half-devil, half-angel Dante from an alternate universe is really staying faithful to the series about a half-human, half-devil Dante.

    Yeah...that is probably one of the most insignificant things to complain about.

    Especially since most of the pre-DmC DMCs treat storyline as an excuse to have crazy parties.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Man, I really don't care about Devil May Cry. Good thing this is the Industry thread and not the Argue About Devil May Cry thread.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    that whole DmC thing is hilarious
    their logic is pretty flawed, especially because the whole stunt has just put money in capcom's pocket

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    The Transformers movies are pretty damn accurate to the source material.

    It's just that the source material is a lot more simplistic and silly than most people remember.

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    Add to it the usual Metacritic bashing too.

    I dislike a lot of the people who share my hobby.

    But yes industry thread.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    redcated

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    The Transformers movies are pretty damn accurate to the source material.

    It's just that the source material is a lot more simplistic and silly than most people remember.

    The source material was an '80s toy commercial.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Exactly!

  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    @Rainbowdespair: Someone asked Dan Adelman at Nintendo if they will always require eshop devs to have a physical office, and his reply is very encouraging!



    In other words, get your games on the WiiU eshop so I can play them on the game pad!

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    You'd buy games you already own to play them on the WiiU?

    How very Nintendo of you!

  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    You'd buy games you already own to play them on the WiiU?

    How very Nintendo of you!

    To be fair, I also bought Arkham Asylum and Arkham City for both 360 and PS3. (Of course that's because my 360 broke, and I'm not replacing it.)

    But in this case, when it comes to something like eshop games, if I like them enough I'll double dip for them if they hit the WiiU and support off play. That feature in of itself makes me love the system.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    You'd buy games you already own to play them on the WiiU?

    How very Nintendo of you!

    I did that with any PSP games I only had on UMD to play them on the Vita. Totally worth it.
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  • DaveTheWaveDaveTheWave Registered User regular
    You'd buy games you already own to play them on the WiiU?

    How very Nintendo of you!

    Yeah, keep saying this like Nintendo does it more than any other company.

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  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    You'd buy games you already own to play them on the WiiU?

    How very Nintendo of you!

    Yeah, keep saying this like Nintendo does it more than any other company.

    I'm pretty sure they do it more than most. Hell, one of the things I'm hoping on the Wii U is that they'll re-release everything again, so I can play some of the Wii titles I skipped last gen.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Yeah they pretty much definitely do it more than anyone else

    Partially a function of the fact that they have a longer history of back titles to resell you than anyone else currently in the market

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Yeah, I'll keep saying it because it's most commonly associated with them.

    But would it be more humourous if I say 'How very Namco of you!'?

  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    If it means I can finally find a god damned copy of Xenoblade Chronicles for less than a monthly electricity bill, I'm all for digital re-releases of Wii titles.

  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    If your electric bill is $50, then I want your electric company.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    *Whooosh*

  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    If your electric bill is $50, then I want your electric company.

    The question is if you can find a copy of Xenoblade for $50.

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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    I see it in stores around here all the time.

  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    I see it in stores around here all the time.

    You must live in the Golden Land. Break me off a piece of that Triforce, bro.

  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    edit- heh, herp derp. Was thinking of another Xeno game.

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  • OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    Damn. That shot up in price fast. I picked up a copy a couple months ago for MSRP when my import copy got stolen.

    And re-releasing games isn't the worst thing if it's treated properly. It's an easy and cheap way for a company to generate more cash flow, and often there's additional convenience, whether it be portability, the ability to consolidate all your games on a single platform, or with something like Xenoblade Chronicles, the ability to even find the damn thing.

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    If Nintendo was really only worried about printing money I'd he able to buy super metroid on the 3ds.

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  • DirtyboyDirtyboy Registered User regular
    Atari has filed for bankruptcy.

    Probably would've helped if they made good games...

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Los Angeles Times didnt do their homework; the company that went bankrupt isn't the same as the one that made the original Atari console. This is unforgivable! NERDRAGE!!..

    But on a serious note THQ is pretty much dead, Atari has filed for bankruptcy... I wonder who's next?

  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Los Angeles Times didnt do their homework; the company that went bankrupt isn't the same as the one that made the original Atari console. This is unforgivable! NERDRAGE!!..

    But on a serious note THQ is pretty much dead, Atari has filed for bankruptcy... I wonder who's next?

    Please let it be Zynga...

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular

    That is some pretty incredibly cool stuff, hadn't seen that before

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    It's worth noting that THE Atari went under years ago and this is just a renamed Infogrames.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    That guy is pretty good at his job.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular

    I'd have hired the fuck out of him. I like his logo.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Not the most reliable of sources but according to people on NeoGAF Wal-Mart is pulling the Vita from shelves.

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    That's not good news. I'd buy one at discount close out prices because it seems cool, but I can't justify buying that thing at its cost.

  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular

    His commentary on the windows 8 metro scheme made me smile, because he's right. I guess we'll be seeing his work on the neXtbox?

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    That guy is amazing. I love this minimal Os shit.

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    Finally we've come full circle, Microsoft doomed!
    Sell Microsoft NOW! Game Over - Ballmer Loses

    Microsoft needed a great Christmas season. After years of product stagnation, and a big market shift toward mobile devices from PCs, Microsoft’s future relied on the company seeing customers demonstrate they were ready to jump in heavily for Windows8 products – including the new Surface tablet.

    But that did not happen.

    With the data now coming it, it is clear the market movement away from Microsoft products, toward Apple and Android products, has not changed. On Christmas eve, as people turned on their new devices and launched their first tweet, Surface came in dead last – a mere 2% compared to the number of people tweeting from iPads (Kindle was second, Android third.) Looking at more traditional units shipped information, UBS analysts reported Surface sales were 5% of iPads shipped. And usability reviews continue to run highly negative for Surface and Win8.

    PC sales declining

    This inability to make a big splash, and mount a serious attack on Apple/Android domination, is horrific for Microsoft primarily because we now know that traditional PC sales are well into decline. Despite the big Win8 launch and promotion, holiday PC sales declined over 3% compared to 2011 as journalists reported customers found “no compelling reason to upgrade.” Ouch!

    Looking deeper, for the 4th quarter PC sales declined by almost 5% according to Gartner research, and by almost 6.5% according to IDC. Both groups no longer expect a rebound in PC shipments, as they believe homes will no longer have more than 1 PC due to the mobile device penetration – the market where Surface and Win8 phones have failed to make any significant impact or move beyond a tiny market share. Users increasingly see the complexity of shifting to Win8 as not worth the effort; and if a switch is to be made consumer and businesses now favor iOS and Android.

    Microsoft’s monopoly over personal computing has evaporated

    From 95% market domination in 2005 share has fallen to just 20% in 2012 (IDC, Goldman Sachs.) Comparing devices, in 2005 there were 55 Windows devices sold for every Apple device; today explosive Apple sales has lowered that multiple to a mere 2! (Asymco). Universally the desire to upgrade Microsoft products has simply disappeared, as XP still has 40% of the Windows market – and even Vista at 5.7% has more users than Win8 which has only achieved a 1.75% Windows market share despite the long wait and launch hoopla. And with all future market growth coming in tablets, which are expected to more than double unit volume sales by 2016, Microsoft is simply not in the game.

    These trends mean nothing short of the ruin of Microsoft

    Microsoft makes more than 75% of its profits from Windows and Office. Less than 25% comes from its vaunted servers and tools. And Microsoft makes nothing from its xBox/Kinect entertainment division, while losing vast sums in its on-line division (negative $350M-$750M/quarter). No matter how much anyone likes the non-Windows Microsoft products, without the historical Windows/Office sales and profits Microsoft is not sustainable.

    What can we expect next at Microsoft?


    Ballmer has committed to fight to the death in his effort to defend & extend Windows. So expect death as resources are poured into the unwinnable battle to convert users from iOS and Android.
    As resources are poured out of the company in the Quixotic effort to prolong Windows/Office, any hope of future dividends falls to zero.
    Expect enormous layoffs over the next 3 years. Something like 50-60%, or more, of employees will go away.
    Expect closure of the long-suffering on-line division in order to conserve resources.
    The entertainment division will be spun off, sold to someone like Sony or possibly Barnes & Noble, or dramatically reduced in size. Unable to make a profit it will increasingly be seen as a distraction to the battle for saving Windows – and Microsoft leadership has long shown they have no idea how to profitably grow this business unit.
    As more and more of the market shifts to competitive cloud infrastructure Apple, Amazon, Samsung and others will grow significantly. Microsoft, losing its user base, will demonstrate its inability to build a new business in the cloud, mimicking its historical failures with Zune (mobile music) and Microsoft mobile phones. Microsoft server and tool sales will suffer, creating a much more difficult profit environment for the sole remaining profitable division.

    Missing the market shift to mobile has already forever tarnished the Microsoft brand.

    No longer is Microsoft seen as a leader, and instead it is rapidly losing market relevancy as people look to Apple, Google, Amazon, Samsung, Facebook and others for leadership. The declining sales, and lack of customer interest will lead to a tailspin at Microsoft not unlike what happened to RIM. Cash will be burned in what Microsoft will consider an “epic” struggle to save the “core of the company.”

    But failure is already inevitable. At this stage, not even a new CEO can save Microsoft. Steve Ballmer played “Bet the Company” on the long-delayed release of Win8, losing the chance to refocus Microsoft on other growing divisions with greater chance of success. Unfortunately, competitors already had enough chips to simply bid Microsoft out of the mobile game – and Microsoft’s ante is now long gone – without holding a hand even remotely able to turn around the product situation.

    Game over. Ballmer loses. And if you keep your money invested in Microsoft it will disappear along with the company.

    BINGO!

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    That article is way too enthusiastic about sticking it to Ballmer to be taken seriously. I don't doubt some of the points brought up, but any suggestion that MS is fucked or on its way out is silly. Desktop computers are not going to go out of style any time soon at all. If anything, mobiles will kill laptops. That's it.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    Desktops are becoming really commoditized, though. Their value as a market is vanishing very fast. You can have your 3000 employees working on barebones machines, or even thin clients, these days. Hardware power outgrew the need for power by a big margin.

    I love desktops, I love making my own pc, but I can't see much of a life for that market other than cheap shitty machines or high end connoisseur stuff. Kinda like the music industry, you have your shitty ipod knock off masses, another big chunk of users of ipods, ipads and smartphones of all kinds, and then you have the crazy vinyl hi-fi DAC 1500 dollar cans dudes.

    But even after ignoring the big hysteria from the article author, the core of the facts is not really good for MS overall. Which saddens me indeed.

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