Hey folks, I have a quick question. I've built all my desktops but one in the last 10-15 years; three system builds and some tinkering, including my current rig. While I understand how to install memory, I have never upgraded memory. I am fully aware of the benefits of buying matched sets of RAM when plugging them into a dual channel setup. However, I'm wondering if, when upgrading, it's better to replace a current 2-stick setup with 2 new matched sticks of higher RAM, or if I can add a second matched set of identical RAM (and I understand what constitutes identical) into the other two available slots.
Essentially, I have 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws sticks (matched) and I'm considering bumping up to a total 16GB. My mboard has four slots, and can take 16GB max. If I go buy an identical matching set, 2x4GB ripjaws, it will clearly be cheaper than buying a 2x8GB set. Is this an alright idea? Or should I just keep with a two stick setup (in which case, I probably won't bother shelling out that much for a not very necessary upgrade)? Thanks in advance.
you can just get another 2x4gb if you really want more ram.
But I also have to ask if your actually bumping up against your 8gb limit? gaming isn't going to use even 4gb, so you have to be doing things like video, photo, or music editing, running virtual machines, math programs, to even make use of another 8gb in your system.
I know dd3 is really cheap atm, but no need to spend on an upgrade that serves no purpose.
I'm looking to start trying to take streaming and producing video content seriously and my rig, while fully capable of playing content is a little bit behind as far as power for creating content. As it stands now I have:
CPU/PROCESSOR - i5 2500K Intel
MOTHERBOARD - ASUS P8P67 PRO
GRAPHICS CARD - nVidia GeForce 560ti
MEMORY/RAM - 8GB(2X4GB) DDR3
POWER SUPPLY - 750W
What is the most important thing to upgrade to be able to put out higher quality content? (Besides being able to create quality content in the first place naturally. )
That seems like a fine setup, honestly. I don't know how much video-editing actually benefits from more RAM, but if the relation is significant, maybe just invest in 8GB more? Otherwise it looks fine from an encoding speed POV. Only other concern might be storage.
I'm looking to start trying to take streaming and producing video content seriously and my rig, while fully capable of playing content is a little bit behind as far as power for creating content. As it stands now I have:
CPU/PROCESSOR - i5 2500K Intel
MOTHERBOARD - ASUS P8P67 PRO
GRAPHICS CARD - nVidia GeForce 560ti
MEMORY/RAM - 8GB(2X4GB) DDR3
POWER SUPPLY - 750W
What is the most important thing to upgrade to be able to put out higher quality content? (Besides being able to create quality content in the first place naturally. )
Thank you for you help in this, threadgoers.
Nothing really, you have a pretty modern great rig there.
Maybe up the ram to 16gb if your doing a lot of video editing of longer content, but that would be it.
I've got 1.7TB worth of storage left and that's after having no less than 10 AAA games + 3 MMOs on here. Storage I have, and thank you for the quick response!
Some editing stuff really likes ram, other stuff doesn't need it too badly.
Storage is the big one, especially if by creating content you mean you will be locally recording stuff while playing(not sure if you're talking game stuff here or recording/shooting content elsewhere and then importing)
My pick for improving a system to do video work would be at least one SSD, two if you can manage so that you can run apps off one while writing to the other(render outputs, game capture, whatever)
Any more specific advice would depend on exactly what software you're using, and what you plan to do with it as well as the resolutions you will be working in
Some editing stuff really likes ram, other stuff doesn't need it too badly.
Storage is the big one, especially if by creating content you mean you will be locally recording stuff while playing(not sure if you're talking game stuff here or recording/shooting content elsewhere and then importing)
My pick for improving a system to do video work would be at least one SSD, two if you can manage so that you can run apps off one while writing to the other(render outputs, game capture, whatever)
Any more specific advice would depend on exactly what software you're using, and what you plan to do with it as well as the resolutions you will be working in
FRAPS, Windows Movie Maker, Open Broadcasting Software(OBS), Logitech c525 WebCam, 1280x720p, 1920x1080p.
I tend to do gameplay commentary, live streaming, and basic web blogging.
you can just get another 2x4gb if you really want more ram.
But I also have to ask if your actually bumping up against your 8gb limit? gaming isn't going to use even 4gb, so you have to be doing things like video, photo, or music editing, running virtual machines, math programs, to even make use of another 8gb in your system.
I know dd3 is really cheap atm, but no need to spend on an upgrade that serves no purpose.
Yeah, in all honesty it's mostly on the basis of the RAM being cheap and I'm going to be upgrading my videocard and having to go into the guts anyway. I do some photo and music editing, but you're correct, I may not actually need it. Thanks for the feedback!
Unrelated question, does anyone have an opinion on the best Radeon HD 7970 card (non-GHz edition)? Crazy good bundle deal on some cards netting you Crysis 3 & Bioshock Infinite. EDIT: I'm thinking about this Sapphire card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008
the 7970 is a super great card, the more so because of the bundles right now.
I've been running a pair for a little over a year now and i love them
Nice, what brand? And do you do any overclocking? Sadly, I can't really do crossfire because my second pci-e slot only runs at x4 instead of x16, and presumably it wouldn't be worth it. (Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
That Sapphire and the HIS cards are the two best ones to get right now because they are among the few that aren't voltage locked which from what I've read is pretty important if you plan on doing any overclocking. I'm debating spending a bit more for a Sapphire Ghz edition, this one http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-7970GHZ, for a slightly better cooler and the better binned chip for overclocking. Granted nearly all 7970's will overclock to Ghz speeds and higher but for $30 more I figure I'll just get a Ghz edition.
the 7970 is a super great card, the more so because of the bundles right now.
I've been running a pair for a little over a year now and i love them
Nice, what brand? And do you do any overclocking? Sadly, I can't really do crossfire because my second pci-e slot only runs at x4 instead of x16, and presumably it wouldn't be worth it. (Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
I got a sapphire and an MSI on release, both reference boards.
I've had them as high as 1125mhz core but right now they're down at 1075 since far cry was giving me grief
I'm sure i could push them further but i haven't felt the need to up the voltage on them yet so they haven't really been stressed that much.
You know, sometimes I think PC gaming (and the attendant spending on hardware) is needlessly expensive... but then I think of other people's hobbies like fixing up their ricer-mobiles or traveling or whatever, and realize that it's not really that expensive. An enthusiast might spend, what, $400 or so on a bleeding-edge new card every 1-2 years? Maybe $200-300 on a new CPU ever 2-3 years? Seems bad upfront, but there're much more expensive hobbies out there.
if you stay sane with your builds it can actually work out cheaper than console gaming when you factor in how many dirt cheap but still pretty new steam games you can snag.
The key is to not go overboard(do as i say not as i do)
People get SUPER OFFENDED if you go around saying that PC gaming is actually cheaper, though. Usually people who are actually mad at themselves for spending extra money on a laptop that isn't powerful enough to run any games from this century.
Well I dunno which actually winds up being cheaper -- and I think it says a lot about you two that you instantly jumped to the PC vs. console gaming thing from that post. :P
Are used PC games a real thing? I feel like I don't see them as much, and probably even less so now with DRM all over the place, making games a one-time-only install that gets locked to an account. I think the dirt-cheap used games racket adds a lot of value to console gaming.
but i agree that there are a ton of more expensive hobbies, even if you start going to the higher end with things.
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Um, potentially dumb question. Are pentium i5/i7 chipsets 32 bit or 64 bit or ?
Asking because I think I just want to go with windows 7 for my new computer and there is the 32/64 choice. Need to know because I will be using AutoCAD/Revit/3D Max all those programs are, or were, broken up into 32/64 versions. So i need to make that choice now.
Well I dunno which actually winds up being cheaper -- and I think it says a lot about you two that you instantly jumped to the PC vs. console gaming thing from that post. :P
Are used PC games a real thing? I feel like I don't see them as much, and probably even less so now with DRM all over the place, making games a one-time-only install that gets locked to an account. I think the dirt-cheap used games racket adds a lot of value to console gaming.
I do often feel very "glorious PC gaming master race," especially given that I've built mine myself, but your point is well taken. Digital Distribution has basically killed the used PC gaming scene in general (at least in my experience).
That said, consoles and game-makers are both trying to murder used game sales anyway. Additional fees for online play, pre-order bonuses and DLC, console-based digital distribution channels, and the threat of one-time registration for console games all bode ill for a healthy used marketplace. But really, f I'm going to have a digital distribution system, I'm going with Steam every day. From what I've been reading, users are experiencing issues trying to get their Wii digitally downloaded titles over to the Wii U because Nintendo doesn't allow for re-downloading old titles to new hardware. You have to manually move the titles over on physical media, and can only use certain approved products to do so. And, because of the hardware architecture change, the PS4 is likely to be largely (if not entirely) incompatible with the games users have downloaded from PSN. As far as I know, Sony hasn't indicate what the resolution is on that. By contrast, I carted my Steam folder over from my old SSD, no problem.
I think that a big strength of consoles, and a big selling point for them, is that they're beginning to function as an HTPC that can play games, for significantly less than you can usually accomplish that with a PC. Now you have the option to stream movies, or even play content stored on your home network. Granted, they don't do those HTPC tasks as well as a dedicated PC (or even some media player boxes) does but if the aim is to make one box to rule them all, they are making strides.
The question for me is pricing on newer console hardware. You can build a pretty capable Steam Box for a relatively reasonable amount these days, and if the new high-end consoles are clocking in at $600ish bucks, then the pricing advantage for them is very minimal at best. A custom-built Steam Box becomes a very compelling alternative at that point, especially given how much more versatile it is.
Um, potentially dumb question. Are pentium i5/i7 chipsets 32 bit or 64 bit or ?
Asking because I think I just want to go with windows 7 for my new computer and there is the 32/64 choice. Need to know because I will be using AutoCAD/Revit/3D Max all those programs are, or were, broken up into 32/64 versions. So i need to make that choice now.
every chip intel makes is 64-bit, and has been since the core 2 release in 2007
See, obvious answer. Thanks for the prompt response.
The last system i built was with a core 2, so i was kinda lost back then too.
Ya it's a little weird that a 32-bit version of win7 exists, seeing as I don't think you can even buy an x86 32bit cpu new anymore. I guess you could maybe still get such a thing back in '09, but even then it was rare unless you were on real old hardware.
Then again I guess they made a 32bit x86 version of win8 for some weird reason as well, I really can't see much of a demand for it.
Hey i had win7 installed on my old athlon xp machine for a while
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So I added a second fan to my CPU cooler so it's now in a push/pull configuration, and I'm now overclocking at a stable 4.5 GHz. Burn test (high stress) and Prime95 top out at 90C, which is supposed to be "optimal" temperature for Ivy Bridge, so I'm going to stick with this for a while and see how it goes. Might do a little more tweaking to offset and turbo voltage to see if I can bring them down a bit more.
See, obvious answer. Thanks for the prompt response.
The last system i built was with a core 2, so i was kinda lost back then too.
Ya it's a little weird that a 32-bit version of win7 exists, seeing as I don't think you can even buy an x86 32bit cpu new anymore. I guess you could maybe still get such a thing back in '09, but even then it was rare unless you were on real old hardware.
Then again I guess they made a 32bit x86 version of win8 for some weird reason as well, I really can't see much of a demand for it.
Yeah this is what threw me off.
Got my hard drives, random sound card, blueray player, and OS now at least. Now just for the real major parts.
my always-on rig has developed a habit of completely shutting down at random. sometimes it restarts automatically, or tries to, and then shuts down again.
i've opened the case and wiggled the 6 pin motherboard cable and that usually starts it right up again. so i guess my question is whether i have a bad connector, a bad motherboard, or a bad power supply
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It really just depends on how you compress them (ie. what quality-to-filesize ratio you're comfortable with), but I've seen full-length 720p movies at <1GB.
It really just depends on how you compress them (ie. what quality-to-filesize ratio you're comfortable with), but I've seen full-length 720p movies at <1GB.
So, probably about 500GB roughly? If I shot for 4TB I'd be safe for a while?
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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See, obvious answer. Thanks for the prompt response.
The last system i built was with a core 2, so i was kinda lost back then too.
Ya it's a little weird that a 32-bit version of win7 exists, seeing as I don't think you can even buy an x86 32bit cpu new anymore. I guess you could maybe still get such a thing back in '09, but even then it was rare unless you were on real old hardware.
Then again I guess they made a 32bit x86 version of win8 for some weird reason as well, I really can't see much of a demand for it.
I'd say they're still compiling 32-bit versions to keep business customers happy. Obviously, in most cases the compatibility modes and stuff available in Win 7/8 can have 32-bit software running no problem, but in a business environment, tech support is something you're paying for along with the software, and a lot of that software is still 32-bit, so you could run into problems requesting support for your stuff if you aren't running it on the "correct" version of the OS.
And, given that they're still burning time making a 32-bit version, they may as well include it in the package for retail, just in case.
If I wanted to rip say... 200 DVDs and BluRays (assorted) how much space am I looking at needing realistically?
I could probably compromise the blurays to 720p tbh.
Blu-rays remuxed to main-movie only with two audio options and English subtitles run at about 35GB / piece. DVDs ripped to AUDIO_TS / VIDEO_TS folders for the main movie only come out at about 2/3 GB depending on the length. Obviously there's tons of space you could save by converting them to something else but I'm lazy, and storage is cheap. Clearly I'm lazy because I spent a few days ripping my movie collection to save me having to cross the room to the shelving unit to grab something to watch when Netflix doesn't cut it.
4TB curently holds ~200 films, with me sitting at about ~65% disc space used.
The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
Well I dunno which actually winds up being cheaper -- and I think it says a lot about you two that you instantly jumped to the PC vs. console gaming thing from that post. :P
Are used PC games a real thing? I feel like I don't see them as much, and probably even less so now with DRM all over the place, making games a one-time-only install that gets locked to an account. I think the dirt-cheap used games racket adds a lot of value to console gaming.
I do often feel very "glorious PC gaming master race," especially given that I've built mine myself, but your point is well taken. Digital Distribution has basically killed the used PC gaming scene in general (at least in my experience).
That said, consoles and game-makers are both trying to murder used game sales anyway. Additional fees for online play, pre-order bonuses and DLC, console-based digital distribution channels, and the threat of one-time registration for console games all bode ill for a healthy used marketplace. But really, f I'm going to have a digital distribution system, I'm going with Steam every day. From what I've been reading, users are experiencing issues trying to get their Wii digitally downloaded titles over to the Wii U because Nintendo doesn't allow for re-downloading old titles to new hardware. You have to manually move the titles over on physical media, and can only use certain approved products to do so. And, because of the hardware architecture change, the PS4 is likely to be largely (if not entirely) incompatible with the games users have downloaded from PSN. As far as I know, Sony hasn't indicate what the resolution is on that. By contrast, I carted my Steam folder over from my old SSD, no problem.
I think that a big strength of consoles, and a big selling point for them, is that they're beginning to function as an HTPC that can play games, for significantly less than you can usually accomplish that with a PC. Now you have the option to stream movies, or even play content stored on your home network. Granted, they don't do those HTPC tasks as well as a dedicated PC (or even some media player boxes) does but if the aim is to make one box to rule them all, they are making strides.
The question for me is pricing on newer console hardware. You can build a pretty capable Steam Box for a relatively reasonable amount these days, and if the new high-end consoles are clocking in at $600ish bucks, then the pricing advantage for them is very minimal at best. A custom-built Steam Box becomes a very compelling alternative at that point, especially given how much more versatile it is.
PC gaming is still cheaper because Steam has all kinds of sales and lower prices. We don't really need an used game market when new games are so ridiculously inexpensive.
If I wanted to rip say... 200 DVDs and BluRays (assorted) how much space am I looking at needing realistically?
I could probably compromise the blurays to 720p tbh.
Blu-rays remuxed to main-movie only with two audio options and English subtitles run at about 35GB / piece. DVDs ripped to AUDIO_TS / VIDEO_TS folders for the main movie only come out at about 2/3 GB depending on the length. Obviously there's tons of space you could save by converting them to something else but I'm lazy, and storage is cheap. Clearly I'm lazy because I spent a few days ripping my movie collection to save me having to cross the room to the shelving unit to grab something to watch when Netflix doesn't cut it.
4TB curently holds ~200 films, with me sitting at about ~65% disc space used.
35GB seems like raw bluray too, eh?
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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See, obvious answer. Thanks for the prompt response.
The last system i built was with a core 2, so i was kinda lost back then too.
Ya it's a little weird that a 32-bit version of win7 exists, seeing as I don't think you can even buy an x86 32bit cpu new anymore. I guess you could maybe still get such a thing back in '09, but even then it was rare unless you were on real old hardware.
Then again I guess they made a 32bit x86 version of win8 for some weird reason as well, I really can't see much of a demand for it.
how else are you going to upsell your ignorant customers to more expensive OS options? "your laptop comes with 32bit Windows, but for $50 you can switch to 64bit! That's DOUBLE the bits!!!"
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Essentially, I have 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws sticks (matched) and I'm considering bumping up to a total 16GB. My mboard has four slots, and can take 16GB max. If I go buy an identical matching set, 2x4GB ripjaws, it will clearly be cheaper than buying a 2x8GB set. Is this an alright idea? Or should I just keep with a two stick setup (in which case, I probably won't bother shelling out that much for a not very necessary upgrade)? Thanks in advance.
I've even run mismatched kits(and sizes) before without trouble so another of the same exact kit should do perfectly.
But I also have to ask if your actually bumping up against your 8gb limit? gaming isn't going to use even 4gb, so you have to be doing things like video, photo, or music editing, running virtual machines, math programs, to even make use of another 8gb in your system.
I know dd3 is really cheap atm, but no need to spend on an upgrade that serves no purpose.
CPU/PROCESSOR - i5 2500K Intel
MOTHERBOARD - ASUS P8P67 PRO
GRAPHICS CARD - nVidia GeForce 560ti
MEMORY/RAM - 8GB(2X4GB) DDR3
POWER SUPPLY - 750W
What is the most important thing to upgrade to be able to put out higher quality content? (Besides being able to create quality content in the first place naturally.
Thank you for you help in this, threadgoers.
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Nothing really, you have a pretty modern great rig there.
Maybe up the ram to 16gb if your doing a lot of video editing of longer content, but that would be it.
FFXIV - Milliardo Beoulve/Sargatanas
Storage is the big one, especially if by creating content you mean you will be locally recording stuff while playing(not sure if you're talking game stuff here or recording/shooting content elsewhere and then importing)
My pick for improving a system to do video work would be at least one SSD, two if you can manage so that you can run apps off one while writing to the other(render outputs, game capture, whatever)
Any more specific advice would depend on exactly what software you're using, and what you plan to do with it as well as the resolutions you will be working in
FRAPS, Windows Movie Maker, Open Broadcasting Software(OBS), Logitech c525 WebCam, 1280x720p, 1920x1080p.
I tend to do gameplay commentary, live streaming, and basic web blogging.
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Great, thanks for the input.
Yeah, in all honesty it's mostly on the basis of the RAM being cheap and I'm going to be upgrading my videocard and having to go into the guts anyway. I do some photo and music editing, but you're correct, I may not actually need it. Thanks for the feedback!
Unrelated question, does anyone have an opinion on the best Radeon HD 7970 card (non-GHz edition)? Crazy good bundle deal on some cards netting you Crysis 3 & Bioshock Infinite. EDIT: I'm thinking about this Sapphire card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008
I've been running a pair for a little over a year now and i love them
Nice, what brand? And do you do any overclocking? Sadly, I can't really do crossfire because my second pci-e slot only runs at x4 instead of x16, and presumably it wouldn't be worth it. (Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
I got a sapphire and an MSI on release, both reference boards.
I've had them as high as 1125mhz core but right now they're down at 1075 since far cry was giving me grief
I'm sure i could push them further but i haven't felt the need to up the voltage on them yet so they haven't really been stressed that much.
The key is to not go overboard(do as i say not as i do)
Are used PC games a real thing? I feel like I don't see them as much, and probably even less so now with DRM all over the place, making games a one-time-only install that gets locked to an account. I think the dirt-cheap used games racket adds a lot of value to console gaming.
but i agree that there are a ton of more expensive hobbies, even if you start going to the higher end with things.
Asking because I think I just want to go with windows 7 for my new computer and there is the 32/64 choice. Need to know because I will be using AutoCAD/Revit/3D Max all those programs are, or were, broken up into 32/64 versions. So i need to make that choice now.
I do often feel very "glorious PC gaming master race," especially given that I've built mine myself, but your point is well taken. Digital Distribution has basically killed the used PC gaming scene in general (at least in my experience).
That said, consoles and game-makers are both trying to murder used game sales anyway. Additional fees for online play, pre-order bonuses and DLC, console-based digital distribution channels, and the threat of one-time registration for console games all bode ill for a healthy used marketplace. But really, f I'm going to have a digital distribution system, I'm going with Steam every day. From what I've been reading, users are experiencing issues trying to get their Wii digitally downloaded titles over to the Wii U because Nintendo doesn't allow for re-downloading old titles to new hardware. You have to manually move the titles over on physical media, and can only use certain approved products to do so. And, because of the hardware architecture change, the PS4 is likely to be largely (if not entirely) incompatible with the games users have downloaded from PSN. As far as I know, Sony hasn't indicate what the resolution is on that. By contrast, I carted my Steam folder over from my old SSD, no problem.
I think that a big strength of consoles, and a big selling point for them, is that they're beginning to function as an HTPC that can play games, for significantly less than you can usually accomplish that with a PC. Now you have the option to stream movies, or even play content stored on your home network. Granted, they don't do those HTPC tasks as well as a dedicated PC (or even some media player boxes) does but if the aim is to make one box to rule them all, they are making strides.
The question for me is pricing on newer console hardware. You can build a pretty capable Steam Box for a relatively reasonable amount these days, and if the new high-end consoles are clocking in at $600ish bucks, then the pricing advantage for them is very minimal at best. A custom-built Steam Box becomes a very compelling alternative at that point, especially given how much more versatile it is.
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every chip intel makes is 64-bit, and has been since the core 2 release in 2007
The last system i built was with a core 2, so i was kinda lost back then too.
Thats partly why we have this thread!
Ya it's a little weird that a 32-bit version of win7 exists, seeing as I don't think you can even buy an x86 32bit cpu new anymore. I guess you could maybe still get such a thing back in '09, but even then it was rare unless you were on real old hardware.
Then again I guess they made a 32bit x86 version of win8 for some weird reason as well, I really can't see much of a demand for it.
I just couldn't help myself.
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Yeah this is what threw me off.
Got my hard drives, random sound card, blueray player, and OS now at least. Now just for the real major parts.
my always-on rig has developed a habit of completely shutting down at random. sometimes it restarts automatically, or tries to, and then shuts down again.
i've opened the case and wiggled the 6 pin motherboard cable and that usually starts it right up again. so i guess my question is whether i have a bad connector, a bad motherboard, or a bad power supply
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I could probably compromise the blurays to 720p tbh.
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So, probably about 500GB roughly? If I shot for 4TB I'd be safe for a while?
I'd say they're still compiling 32-bit versions to keep business customers happy. Obviously, in most cases the compatibility modes and stuff available in Win 7/8 can have 32-bit software running no problem, but in a business environment, tech support is something you're paying for along with the software, and a lot of that software is still 32-bit, so you could run into problems requesting support for your stuff if you aren't running it on the "correct" version of the OS.
And, given that they're still burning time making a 32-bit version, they may as well include it in the package for retail, just in case.
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Blu-rays remuxed to main-movie only with two audio options and English subtitles run at about 35GB / piece. DVDs ripped to AUDIO_TS / VIDEO_TS folders for the main movie only come out at about 2/3 GB depending on the length. Obviously there's tons of space you could save by converting them to something else but I'm lazy, and storage is cheap. Clearly I'm lazy because I spent a few days ripping my movie collection to save me having to cross the room to the shelving unit to grab something to watch when Netflix doesn't cut it.
4TB curently holds ~200 films, with me sitting at about ~65% disc space used.
PC gaming is still cheaper because Steam has all kinds of sales and lower prices. We don't really need an used game market when new games are so ridiculously inexpensive.
35GB seems like raw bluray too, eh?
how else are you going to upsell your ignorant customers to more expensive OS options? "your laptop comes with 32bit Windows, but for $50 you can switch to 64bit! That's DOUBLE the bits!!!"
which are still $10 cheaper than their console equivalents.